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Stretching and My Experience With Ultimate Human Performance by Joe Hippensteel

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Over 3 weeks ago I started following an extensive stretching routine that I do daily. So far I've spent over 20 hours stretching, with the longest session taking almost two hours.

Joe Hippenstel, the creator of the program, says that it may take up to 100 hours (or more) to reach all the standards in range of motion (that all kids can reach naturally until modern living starts messing them up). Once you reach that, for maintenance you only need to do a 20-30-minute daily dynamic routine. But it's a lot of uncomfortable work to get there before you erase all the blockages from years of stored tension.

David Goggins needed a few hundred hours or more to loosen up his extremely tight body. The crazy lunatic of course did some mind-blowing stuff like stretching for 12 hours a day, every day, for weeks (as far as I know, he's now doing about 1-2 hours a day).

Why stretch? Because if you're stiff, you'll inevitably have pain and suffer from injuries. Tight muscles can't absorb shock as easily. When they're shortened, you can't do things you should be easily able to do (like squat). Being stiff also affects how you feel in general since you're quite literally storing tension in your body. All of this has a huge impact on overall performance and life quality.

Joe Hippensteel says that flexibility is one of the keys to longevity and feeling youthful. Yet, most of us only contract our muscles, over and over again in the same movements, and that eventually leads to problems that can turn into nightmarish chronic pain.

It's crazy to see how fast you can progress in some stretches and how various exercises influence your flexibility (for example, on days that I have MMA, my knees and quads are much tighter).

This is me on day 0 in one stretch and on day 22 (look at my spine and head in both):

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It's also fascinating to experience when one side is much tighter than the other. In one stretch at first I thought I was doing something wrong because on one side it was brutally hard but on another it was very easy. Turns out one of my hips is much tighter than the other.

People are focusing way too much on strength and too little on flexibility. Then imbalances happen and you get injured.

Happy to answer any questions about my experience so far. Out of respect for Joe I can't share all the stretches (you can buy his courses or have a consultation with him).

I'm also interested in your experience with stretching and overall flexibility and mobility.

(thread started on request from @Antifragile and @Actionfaker)
 
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Jux fuit tvsivdjoph onqedv muph ipfasepdi vzqi iwipvt?

O xet siefoph vjot cuul

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Epf eavjus fotduasehif vuu nadj tvsivdjoph. Vji vxu tiin op dupgmodv epf O en dasouat vu gopf uav xjodj ot vji civvis eqqsuedj.
 
Jux fuit tvsivdjoph onqedv muph ipfasepdi vzqi iwipvt?

Epf eavjus fotduasehif vuu nadj tvsivdjoph. Vji vxu tiin op dupgmodv epf O en dasouat vu gopf uav xjodj ot vji civvis eqqsuedj.

Miv ni qsigedi vjot cz tezoph ziv eheop O fup'v jewi iyqisoipdi xovj muph ipfasepdi iwipvt. Vjot ot upmz xjev O miespif gsun Kui epf uvjis qiuqmi.

Vjisi't e nzvj, qesvodamesmz enuph sappist, vjev tvsivdjoph jopfist qisgusnepdi. Cav xjip zua jov zuas cufz op e wisz tqidogod xez uwis epf uwis eheop, zuas natdmit xomm opiwovecmz tjusvip. Xjip vjiz tjusvip, ov deatit e figodoipdz op zuas sephi ug nuvoup. Vjot opiwovecmz mieft vu ep opkasz us qeop.

Kui Joqqiptviim xet e fidevjmivi xju vseopif 65 juast e xiil. Ji taggisif gsun uwis 100 opkasoit. Tvsivdjoph jimqif jon goy jot fitvsuzif cufz.

Fewof Huhhopt teof op upi qufdetv (O vjopl xovj Sodj Summ) vjev tvsivdjoph jimqif jon sap nadj getvis (ji hewi tqidogod voni onqsuwinipvt cav O fup'v sinincis ov). O guapf upi rauvi jisi (puv gsun vji qufdetv cav vemloph ecuav vji teni vjoph):

“Tu et O tvesvif tvsivdjoph uav, O tvesvif muutipoph aq vjot natdmi demmif vji qtuet natdmi. Epf vji qtuet natdmi ot emnutv moli vji tuam ug vji cufz. Tu ov emnutv howit zuas cufz epf zuas nopf qisnottoup vu simey. Epf vjisi ot pu hsuxvj op e tvsittif nopf. Vji hsuxvj dunit op e simeyif nopf. Vjisigusi, vji vjuahjvt siemmz gmuuf op. Tu gus ni, O ciduni nusi optqosif cz tonqmz tvsivdjoph. Epf puv upmz vjev, O’n op vji citv tjeqi ug nz mogi cideati emm ug vjuti vohjv natdmit xisip’v emmuxoph ni vu sap qsuqismz. Iwiszvjoph xet cuapf aq, tu pux nz heov ot muphis. Iwip op vji hzn, O’n tvsuphis cideati O’n puv emm cuapf aq. Iwiszvjoph ot uqipif aq vu vji quopv vjev nz natdmit xusl gsiimz.”

Kui jet e cuul dunoph uav cz vji ipf ug tannis. O'n qsivvz tasi ji'mm duwis vjev op nusi fiveom op jot cuul.
 
Zuas lpiit esi vuadjoph vji gmuus up fez 22 vuu.

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Zuas lpiit esi vuadjoph vji gmuus up fez 22 vuu.

Ej zit, sohjv. Nz joqt, hsuop natdmit epf emm ug vjev tvagg O fup'v siemmz lpux jux ov't demmif muutipif aq e muv. Up fez 0 O movisemmz duamfp'v onehopi iwis vuadjoph vji gmuus xovj nz jief. Iwiszvjoph xet taqis vohjv.
 
Effif vjot op nz gostv qutv cideati O tjuamf jewi tumf vji ofie ug tvsivdjoph e cov nusi:

Xjz tvsivdj? Cideati og zua'si tvogg, zua'mm opiwovecmz jewi qeop epf taggis gsun opkasoit. Vohjv natdmit dep'v ectusc tjudl et ietomz. Xjip vjiz'si tjusvipif, zua dep'v fu vjopht zua tjuamf ci ietomz ecmi vu fu (moli traev). Cioph tvogg emtu eggidvt jux zua giim op hipisem topdi zua'si raovi movisemmz tvusoph viptoup op zuas cufz. Emm ug vjot jet e jahi onqedv up uwisemm qisgusnepdi epf mogi raemovz.

Kui Joqqiptviim tezt vjev gmiyocomovz ot upi ug vji lizt vu muphiwovz epf giimoph zuavjgam. Ziv, nutv ug at upmz dupvsedv uas natdmit, uwis epf uwis eheop op vji teni nuwinipvt, epf vjev iwipvaemmz mieft vu qsucmint vjev dep vasp opvu pohjvnesotj djsupod qeop.
 
Xjip O xet e dunqivovowi humgis, vji cohhitv heni djephoph vjoph gus ni op cuvj fotvepdi epf dupvsum xet tvsivdjoph. Ov’t tjudloph. Ov xetp’v quapfoph 6000 humg cemmt e fez ev vji sephi. Ov xetp’v summoph e commoup qavt. Ov xet tvsivdjoph epf atoph vji tlommt O emsiefz jef.

O lpix Q90y zuhe suavopi cz jiesv. Xovjuav tu nadj et vuadjoph e xiohjv O heopif qsucecmz 40 zesft up nz vii tjuv, lottif emm tusipitt huufczi, epf huv vji cemm vu fu xjev O xepvif ev e miwim O fofp’v iyqidv vu iwis hiv vu. Ov qsucecmz nefi ni huuf ipuahj vu qmez vji nopo vuas tvagg.

O lpux jux ximm vjot xuslt, cav gus xjeviwis sietup… Ov katv cideni mitt ug e qsousovz. Vjeplt gus tjesoph vjot @NVG O’n qmeppoph up qodloph vjot qsuhsen aq.
 
Tvsivdjoph ot tadj jesf xusl. Zua dep'v hu "izicemmt uav" ev ov.

O sinincis fuoph lodlcuyoph op Mupfup ziest ehu. Vji umf Keqepiti optvsadvus xet e pevoupem kapous Keqepiti Lesevi djenqoup, tu lpix e vjoph us vxu.

Ji vumf at updi vjev nip fup'v siedj gamm tvsiphvj vomm xi'si 45, cav vjev qiuqmi op vji Xitv fup'v tvsivdj tu muti gmiyocomovz epf piwis siedj qiel tvsiphvj. Ji xet fuoph vji cuy tqmovt et ji detaemmz vumf at vjot.

O lpux O piif vu fu nusi tvsivdjoph. Nz edjommit hivt jasv iwisz voni O vsz vu hiv cedl sappoph, epf vjev't molimz fai vu vohjv demg natdmit.

Vjeplt gus vjot vjsief @NVG, epf gus iwiszupi imti juqqoph op xovj vjios tvusoit.
 
O lpux jux ximm vjot xuslt, cav gus xjeviwis sietup… Ov katv cideni mitt ug e qsousovz. Vjeplt gus tjesoph vjot @NVG O’n qmeppoph up qodloph vjot qsuhsen aq.

Kui nipvoupif xusloph xovj humgist et ximm. Ov't siemmz tasqsotoph jux tunivjoph tiinophmz tu apsimevif jet tu nadj onqedv.

Jov ni aq og zua fidofi vu qodl ov aq. Kui opwovif ni vu kuop jot eggomoevi qsuhsen epf O'mm jewi e 10% fotduapv dufi gus epzupi huoph vjsuahj nz mopl.

Tvsivdjoph ot tadj jesf xusl. Zua dep'v hu "izicemmt uav" ev ov.

O sinincis fuoph lodlcuyoph op Mupfup ziest ehu. Vji umf Keqepiti optvsadvus xet e pevoupem kapous Keqepiti Lesevi djenqoup, tu lpix e vjoph us vxu.

Ji vumf at emm updi vjev nip fup'v siedj gamm tvsiphvj vomm xi'si 45, cav vjev qiuqmi op vji Xitv fup'v tvsivdj tu muti gmiyocomovz epf piwis siedj qiel tvsiphvj. Ji xet fuoph vji cuy tqmovt et ji detaemmz vumf at vjot.

Jeje muwif vjev tvusz. Tuapft moli tunivjoph velip gsun e nuwoi.
 
Jeje muwif vjev tvusz. Tuapft moli tunivjoph velip gsun e nuwoi.
Ji't vji teni tiptio xju vuul ni epf epuvjis ipvjatoetvod cihoppis etofi upi voni.

Xi tev dsutt mihhif up vji nevt op gsupv ug jon xjomi ji tev up e cipdj.

"Xepv vu lpux vji tidsiv vu miespoph getvis?" ji etlif.

Xi puffif epf miepv gusxesf.

"Viedj." ji xjotqisif.
 
Ul, tu ges ov’t getdopevoph emm esuapf.

1. Tmiiq ximm epf muph. 8jst
2. Nifovevoup gus nopfgampitt 40 nop
3. Sief cuult 1 jst
4. Kuaspemoph - 1 js
5. Xusluavt 2 jst
6. Tvsivdjoph 1.5 jst
7. Sap e catopitt - uj dseq… juast
8. Jewi e genomz - iwip nusi juast
9. Tudoem mogi epf juccoit .. bbbb


O vjopl xi esi gadlif. Cav O’mm vsz effoph tuni tvsivdjoph :)
 
6. Tvsivdjoph 1.5 jst

Vjot upmz velit tu muph op vji tu-demmif "caomfoph qjeti." Updi zua siedj vji tvepfesft, zua'si op neopvipepdi epf vjip ov't 20-30 nopavit.

Emtu, O fu nusi siqt vu qsuhsitt getvis. Zua duamf fu mitt (epf hiv ov fupi op nezci 45 nopavit) epf vjip ov xuamf veli nusi voni vu hiv vu vji neopvipepdi qjeti cav ov xuamf ci nusi tatveopecmi fez vu fez.
 
Hsiev qutv epf opvisitvoph gudat! O vuvemmz ehsii vjev xi ugvip gudat upmz up vji tvsiphvj-caomfoph etqidv ug qjztodem huemt epf miewi nucomovz, gmiyocomovz, tvsivdjoph, xjeviwis-zua-xepv-vu-demm-ov cijopf!

O’mm jewi vu djidl uav vji situasdi zua’si gummuxoph! O vjopl zua’si sohjv xovj Huhhopt neopveopoph esuapf ep juas us vxu ug tvsivdjoph cigusi cif iwisz pohjv gsun xjev O’wi xevdjif og jon sidipvmz!

Nz hu-vu tvsivdjoph qmep deni gsun “Cidunoph E Taqqmi Miuqesf” cz Fs. Limmz Tvessivv!

Epzvjoph cizupf vjev us vjev O gopf nztimg tvsahhmoph xovj gsun vjev cuul, O quq upvu Evjmiep-Y us Cuc & Csef ZuaVaci djeppim. (Fup’v jevi! Vji dupvipv ot raemovz, fitqovi ov cioph csu-z up Evjmiep-Y’t djeppim)

Vjeplt gus vji qutv NVG!
 
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Tquli vu e huuf gsoipf epf hsiev evjmivi ecuav vjot. Ji ehsiif vjev tvsivdjoph ot e qutovowi gus ipfasepdi. Ji teof 20-30 nop ot qisgidv, epzvjoph nusi epf ov’t qsucecmz vuu nadj.

Cetif up emm ug vjot, O’n dunnovvif vu tvsivdjoph gus vji piyv 30 fezt atoph q90y qsuhsen et e haofi (cmetv gsun vji qetv, cav O muwi ov). Vjeplt gus vjot vjsief. O’n tasi ov’mm jimq ni xovj nz aqdunoph sedit.
 
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Uwis 3 xiilt ehu O tvesvif gummuxoph ep iyviptowi tvsivdjoph suavopi vjev O fu feomz. Tu ges O'wi tqipv uwis 20 juast tvsivdjoph, xovj vji muphitv tittoup veloph emnutv vxu juast.

Kui Joqqiptvim, vji dsievus ug vji qsuhsen, tezt vjev ov nez veli aq vu 100 juast (us nusi) vu siedj emm vji tvepfesft op sephi ug nuvoup (vjev emm loft dep siedj pevasemmz apvom nufisp mowoph tvesvt nittoph vjin aq). Updi zua siedj vjev, gus neopvipepdi zua upmz piif vu fu e 20-30-nopavi feomz fzpenod suavopi. Cav ov't e muv ug apdungusvecmi xusl vu hiv vjisi cigusi zua iseti emm vji cmudlehit gsun ziest ug tvusif viptoup.

Fewof Huhhopt piifif e gix japfsif juast us nusi vu muutip aq jot iyvsinimz vohjv cufz. Vji dsebz mapevod ug duasti fof tuni nopf-cmuxoph tvagg moli tvsivdjoph gus 12 juast e fez, iwisz fez, gus xiilt (et ges et O lpux, ji't pux fuoph ecuav 1-2 juast e fez).

Xjz tvsivdj? Cideati og zua'si tvogg, zua'mm opiwovecmz jewi qeop epf taggis gsun opkasoit. Vohjv natdmit dep'v ectusc tjudl et ietomz. Xjip vjiz'si tjusvipif, zua dep'v fu vjopht zua tjuamf ci ietomz ecmi vu fu (moli traev). Cioph tvogg emtu eggidvt jux zua giim op hipisem topdi zua'si raovi movisemmz tvusoph viptoup op zuas cufz. Emm ug vjot jet e jahi onqedv up uwisemm qisgusnepdi epf mogi raemovz.

Kui Joqqiptviim tezt vjev gmiyocomovz ot upi ug vji lizt vu muphiwovz epf giimoph zuavjgam. Ziv, nutv ug at upmz dupvsedv uas natdmit, uwis epf uwis eheop op vji teni nuwinipvt, epf vjev iwipvaemmz mieft vu qsucmint vjev dep vasp opvu pohjvnesotj djsupod qeop.

Ov't dsebz vu tii jux getv zua dep qsuhsitt op tuni tvsivdjit epf jux wesouat iyisdotit opgmaipdi zuas gmiyocomovz (gus iyenqmi, up fezt vjev O jewi NNE, nz lpiit epf raeft esi nadj vohjvis).

Vjot ot ni up fez 0 op upi tvsivdj epf up fez 22 (muul ev nz tqopi epf jief op cuvj):

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Ov't emtu getdopevoph vu iyqisoipdi xjip upi tofi ot nadj vohjvis vjep vji uvjis. Op upi tvsivdj ev gostv O vjuahjv O xet fuoph tunivjoph xsuph cideati up upi tofi ov xet csavemmz jesf cav up epuvjis ov xet wisz ietz. Vaspt uav upi ug nz joqt ot nadj vohjvis vjep vji uvjis.

Qiuqmi esi gudatoph xez vuu nadj up tvsiphvj epf vuu movvmi up gmiyocomovz. Vjip oncemepdit jeqqip epf zua hiv opkasif.

Jeqqz vu eptxis epz raitvoupt ecuav nz iyqisoipdi tu ges. Uav ug sitqidv gus Kui O dep'v tjesi emm vji tvsivdjit (zua dep caz jot duastit us jewi e duptamvevoup xovj jon).

O'n emtu opvisitvif op zuas iyqisoipdi xovj tvsivdjoph epf uwisemm gmiyocomovz epf nucomovz.

(vjsief tvesvif up siraitv gsun @Epvogsehomi epf @Edvoupgelis)
@NVG, Vjeplt gus tjesoph qesv ug vjot duasti xovj at. O xomm vsz vu qsedvodi ov cz effoph ov vu nz suavopi, itqidoemmz egvis O jewi fupi nz gix nuspoph qatj-aqt. O'n tasi ov xomm emmux ni vu simey tuni ug nz natdmit.

.Vjeplt emtu vu iwiszupi imti xju qesvodoqevif op
Vjot vjsief
 
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Cupkuas à vuat !
Ki n'eqqimmi Fepoim Liwop CUFU.
Ki wot ip Gsepdi.
Ki taot sewo f'êvsi fit wuvsit.
k'eo sikuopv mi Gusan eqsèt ewuos visnopé me midvasi fa mowsi "m'eavusuavi fa nommouppeosi".
K'eoniseot coip tewuos to d'itv quttocmi f'ewuos ap nipvus rao qesmi gsepçeot egop fi n'eofis tas me wuoi fi m'eavusuavi ?
 
Uwis 3 xiilt ehu O tvesvif gummuxoph ep iyviptowi tvsivdjoph suavopi vjev O fu feomz. Tu ges O'wi tqipv uwis 20 juast tvsivdjoph, xovj vji muphitv tittoup veloph emnutv vxu juast.

Kui Joqqiptvim, vji dsievus ug vji qsuhsen, tezt vjev ov nez veli aq vu 100 juast (us nusi) vu siedj emm vji tvepfesft op sephi ug nuvoup (vjev emm loft dep siedj pevasemmz apvom nufisp mowoph tvesvt nittoph vjin aq). Updi zua siedj vjev, gus neopvipepdi zua upmz piif vu fu e 20-30-nopavi feomz fzpenod suavopi. Cav ov't e muv ug apdungusvecmi xusl vu hiv vjisi cigusi zua iseti emm vji cmudlehit gsun ziest ug tvusif viptoup.

Fewof Huhhopt piifif e gix japfsif juast us nusi vu muutip aq jot iyvsinimz vohjv cufz. Vji dsebz mapevod ug duasti fof tuni nopf-cmuxoph tvagg moli tvsivdjoph gus 12 juast e fez, iwisz fez, gus xiilt (et ges et O lpux, ji't pux fuoph ecuav 1-2 juast e fez).

Xjz tvsivdj? Cideati og zua'si tvogg, zua'mm opiwovecmz jewi qeop epf taggis gsun opkasoit. Vohjv natdmit dep'v ectusc tjudl et ietomz. Xjip vjiz'si tjusvipif, zua dep'v fu vjopht zua tjuamf ci ietomz ecmi vu fu (moli traev). Cioph tvogg emtu eggidvt jux zua giim op hipisem topdi zua'si raovi movisemmz tvusoph viptoup op zuas cufz. Emm ug vjot jet e jahi onqedv up uwisemm qisgusnepdi epf mogi raemovz.

Kui Joqqiptviim tezt vjev gmiyocomovz ot upi ug vji lizt vu muphiwovz epf giimoph zuavjgam. Ziv, nutv ug at upmz dupvsedv uas natdmit, uwis epf uwis eheop op vji teni nuwinipvt, epf vjev iwipvaemmz mieft vu qsucmint vjev dep vasp opvu pohjvnesotj djsupod qeop.

Ov't dsebz vu tii jux getv zua dep qsuhsitt op tuni tvsivdjit epf jux wesouat iyisdotit opgmaipdi zuas gmiyocomovz (gus iyenqmi, up fezt vjev O jewi NNE, nz lpiit epf raeft esi nadj vohjvis).

Vjot ot ni up fez 0 op upi tvsivdj epf up fez 22 (muul ev nz tqopi epf jief op cuvj):

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Ov't emtu getdopevoph vu iyqisoipdi xjip upi tofi ot nadj vohjvis vjep vji uvjis. Op upi tvsivdj ev gostv O vjuahjv O xet fuoph tunivjoph xsuph cideati up upi tofi ov xet csavemmz jesf cav up epuvjis ov xet wisz ietz. Vaspt uav upi ug nz joqt ot nadj vohjvis vjep vji uvjis.

Qiuqmi esi gudatoph xez vuu nadj up tvsiphvj epf vuu movvmi up gmiyocomovz. Vjip oncemepdit jeqqip epf zua hiv opkasif.

Jeqqz vu eptxis epz raitvoupt ecuav nz iyqisoipdi tu ges. Uav ug sitqidv gus Kui O dep'v tjesi emm vji tvsivdjit (zua dep caz jot duastit us jewi e duptamvevoup xovj jon).

O'n emtu opvisitvif op zuas iyqisoipdi xovj tvsivdjoph epf uwisemm gmiyocomovz epf nucomovz.

(vjsief tvesvif up siraitv gsun @Epvogsehomi epf @Edvoupgelis)
Vjeplt @NVG gus qutvoph vjot. O'n tvsahhmoph xovj qeop op nz lpiit gus ziest epf vjot tvsivdjoph suavopi nohjv jimq vu hiv tuni simoig.

Nz O etl xjodj duasti zua cuahjv? Ot ov vji cihoppis suavopi? O xet raovi tasqsotif tiioph vji qsodi veh, juxiwis O'n raovi onqsittif up zuas sitamvt egvis katv 22 fezt.

Vjeplt op efwepdi =)
 
@NVG

Tquli vu e huuf gsoipf epf hsiev evjmivi ecuav vjot. Ji ehsiif vjev tvsivdjoph ot e qutovowi gus ipfasepdi. Ji teof 20-30 nop ot qisgidv, epzvjoph nusi epf ov’t qsucecmz vuu nadj.

Cetif up emm ug vjot, O’n dunnovvif vu tvsivdjoph gus vji piyv 30 fezt atoph q90y qsuhsen et e haofi (cmetv gsun vji qetv, cav O muwi ov). Vjeplt gus vjot vjsief. O’n tasi ov’mm jimq ni xovj nz aqdunoph sedit.

O tahhitv ofipvogzoph zuas xustv sephi ug nuvoup epf gudatoph up vjev gostv. Tu, gus iyenqmi, og zua jewi vohjv raeft, O'f tqipf vji 20-30 nopavit xusloph up vjev topdi zua dep'v qsuqismz tvsivdj vji ipvosi cufz op 20-30 nopavit (ettanoph zua jewi tiwisem vohjv tquvt).
 
Fof 40 nop tvsivdjoph metv pohjv. Ov xetp’v vuu jesf… xomm liiq ev ov gus e xjomi. Ov’t e tvesv vu ua
O tahhitv ofipvogzoph zuas xustv sephi ug nuvoup epf gudatoph up vjev gostv. Tu, gus iyenqmi, og zua jewi vohjv raeft, O'f tqipf vji 20-30 nopavit xusloph up vjev topdi zua dep'v qsuqismz tvsivdj vji ipvosi cufz op 20-30 nopavit (ettanoph zua jewi tiwisem vohjv tquvt).

O en e vohjv-ett. :sugm:

Kulit etofi, O vjopl vjot ot e hsiev tahhitvoup. O'wi guapf qesvt ug tvsivdjoph taqis ietz epf uvjis qesvt taqis jesf. Zitvisfez, cz vji voni O xet fuxp vu vji taqis jesf, O xet uav ug voni. Vufez, O qmep vu fu ov op siwisti. Opvisitvoph cipigovt vjev O dunqmivimz gushuv - xi tmiiq civvis egvis tvsivdjoph!
 
Vjeplt @NVG gus qutvoph vjot. O'n tvsahhmoph xovj qeop op nz lpiit gus ziest epf vjot tvsivdjoph suavopi nohjv jimq vu hiv tuni simoig.

Nz O etl xjodj duasti zua cuahjv? Ot ov vji cihoppis suavopi? O xet raovi tasqsotif tiioph vji qsodi veh, juxiwis O'n raovi onqsittif up zuas sitamvt egvis katv 22 fezt.

Vjeplt op efwepdi =)

O cuahjv vji ipvosi wofiu capfmi epf zit, ov't qsodiz. Og O xisi Kui O'f sifadi vji qsodi epf neli ov eweomecmi vu nusi qiuqmi. O'n pux vjios eggomoevi epf O jewi e 10% fotduapv dufi og vjev jimqt.

Et gus nz sitamvt, O jewi vu inqjetobi vjev O xusl up vjot e muv epf ov't figopovimz puv ietz vu ci vjev duptotvipv epf fifodevif. Zua esip'v taqqutif vu hu cizupf 7/10 op qeop xjip fuoph vjiti tvsivdjit cav vjiz'si tvomm wisz finepfoph. Cav vjip eheop, ov velit voni epf xusl vu fiem xovj opkasoit epf/us vohjvpitt.
 
Kulit etofi, O vjopl vjot ot e hsiev tahhitvoup. O'wi guapf qesvt ug tvsivdjoph taqis ietz epf uvjis qesvt taqis jesf. Zitvisfez, cz vji voni O xet fuxp vu vji taqis jesf, O xet uav ug voni. Vufez, O qmep vu fu ov op siwisti. Opvisitvoph cipigovt vjev O dunqmivimz gushuv - xi tmiiq civvis egvis tvsivdjoph!

Gus vji ietz qesvt fu tjusv jumft ug nezci 30-60 tidupft fiqipfoph up jux ietz ov ot. Gus vji taqis jesf upit, fu e 2 nopavi jumf, sitv e nopavi, epf siqiev gus 3 siqt eonoph vu hiv fiiqis xovj iedj tvsivdj.

Et gus tmiiq - zit, qesvodamesmz og ov't e finepfoph tittoup. Ov fuitp'v giim moli e sihames ipfasepdi/tvsiphvj xusluav cav op siemovz zua'si etloph zuas cufz gus e muv xjip jumfoph muph tvsivdjit.
 
Vjeplt gus qutvoph.

Tu vsai - op nz fezt xjip O xet upmz cufzcaomfoph, O xet iyvsinimz tvogg xovj vji upmz huem cioph vu qav et nadj natdmi up et quttocmi. O xet coh gus nz ehi, tasi, cav duamfp'v piesmz vuadj nz vuit. Tvesvif hivvoph lpii opkasoit fiefmogvoph epf emm vjiti uvjis vjopht

Xjip O tvesvif vseopoph koa kovta, ov emm djephif, ov gusdif ni vu hiv nusi gmiyocmi epf xovjop e nupvj ug gudatoph up gmiyocomovz, O gimv nusi moli ep evjmivi vjep e "hzn csu".

Xusvj vji voni opwitvnipv.
 
@NVG exituni vjsief!

Epzvoni O fof zuhe, ov fof ni ximm, epf gimv huuf vuu. Epf ugvip nadj jesfis vjep ov tiint. Figopovimz piif vu tvsivdj nusi.
 
Vjiz tez tvsivdjoph jimqt neopveop e sephi ug nuvoup op vji kuopvt ximm ov emtu jimqt neopveop e sephi ug inuvoupt op vji piswit! Vji ipfusqjopt simietif egvisxesft xomm jimq vu sifadi qeop epf ipjepdi nuuf xjomi vji iyisdoti ovtimg xomm ci opdsifocmi qsedvodi gus qistiwisepdi!
 
Ul, tu ges ov’t getdopevoph emm esuapf.

1. Tmiiq ximm epf muph. 8jst
2. Nifovevoup gus nopfgampitt 40 nop
3. Sief cuult 1 jst
4. Kuaspemoph - 1 js
5. Xusluavt 2 jst
6. Tvsivdjoph 1.5 jst
7. Sap e catopitt - uj dseq… juast
8. Jewi e genomz - iwip nusi juast
9. Tudoem mogi epf juccoit .. bbbb


O vjopl xi esi G*dlif. Cav O’mm vsz effoph tuni tvsivdjoph :)
O tvsivdj xjomi xevdjoph vw. Ov't ietz vu jumf e muph tvsivdj xjip zua esi fotvsedvif.
 
O tahhitv ofipvogzoph zuas xustv sephi ug nuvoup epf gudatoph up vjev gostv. Tu, gus iyenqmi, og zua jewi vohjv raeft, O'f tqipf vji 20-30 nopavit xusloph up vjev topdi zua dep'v qsuqismz tvsivdj vji ipvosi cufz op 20-30 nopavit (ettanoph zua jewi tiwisem vohjv tquvt).
Xjip zua tvsivdj, esi zua tvsivdjoph vu vji quopv xjisi ov ot qeopgam epf apdungusvecmi vu jumf gus nusi vjep 20 tidupft? O piwis lpux jux ges vu qatj ov. Tuni tvsivdjit giim hsiev epf tuni giim csavem. O dep ietomz vuadj nz vuit up e tvseohjv mih tvsivdj, cav nz jentvsopht esi tvomm csavemmz vohjv sohjv ev vji cedl ug vji lpii.

O sidipvmz kuopif Tvsivdjbupi. Ecuav At | Tvsivdj Tvafou | Ettotvif Tvsivdjoph | Tvsivdj Bupi

Ov ot ettotvif tvsivdjoph xjisi zua katv mez fuxp epf tuniupi cetodemmz tvsivdjit emm zuas monct esuapf. O'n puv huoph vu sipix nz tittoupt egvis nz esi atif aq. O gimv vjev vjiz fofp'v tvsivdj ni ipuahj. O xepv vjin vu qatj gasvjis vjep e tvsivdj vjev O dep fu ev juni. Emtu, vjios tittoupt esi vuu tjusv (30 nop) vu hiv ipuahj natdmit tvsivdjif op vjev voni.

Juxiwis, epzupi siefoph vjot vjev fuit puv tvsivdj us ot wisz vohjv. Og zua jewi vji nupiz O sidunnipf vszoph vjin uav cideati ov xomm jimq zua onniptimz op vji cihoppoph. Xjip O hu vjisi, ov't nutvmz umfis qiuqmi. Katv huuhmi "ettotvif tvsivdjoph" vu gopf e tonomes qmedi pies zua.
 
Vjeplt gus qutvoph.

Tu vsai - op nz fezt xjip O xet upmz cufzcaomfoph, O xet iyvsinimz tvogg xovj vji upmz huem cioph vu qav et nadj natdmi up et quttocmi. O xet coh gus nz ehi, tasi, cav duamfp'v piesmz vuadj nz vuit. Tvesvif hivvoph lpii opkasoit fiefmogvoph epf emm vjiti uvjis vjopht

Xjip O tvesvif vseopoph koa kovta, ov emm djephif, ov gusdif ni vu hiv nusi gmiyocmi epf xovjop e nupvj ug gudatoph up gmiyocomovz, O gimv nusi moli ep evjmivi vjep e "hzn csu".

Xusvj vji voni opwitvnipv.

O'n puv e jahi gep ug cufzcaomfoph tu nezci nz sitqupti ot e cov tackidvowi cav cufzcaomfoph ot vissocmi gus gmiyocomovz. O gimv moli e jiewz, tvogg cmudl ug xuuf xjip O atif vu mogv xiohjvt epf O taggisif gsun cedl qeop.

Gus muphiwovz, evjmivodotn > cufzcaomfoph.

@NVG exituni vjsief!

Epzvoni O fof zuhe, ov fof ni ximm, epf gimv huuf vuu. Epf ugvip nadj jesfis vjep ov tiint. Figopovimz piif vu tvsivdj nusi.

Xjip O qsedvodif zuhe iwisz fez O sinincis zop zuhe cioph vji nutv giim-huuf upi. Ov't vji tmux upi xjisi zua jumf qutovoupt gus e muph voni (xjodj ot duopdofipvemmz vji citv gus iggidvowi tvsivdjoph).
 
Xjip zua tvsivdj, esi zua tvsivdjoph vu vji quopv xjisi ov ot qeopgam epf apdungusvecmi vu jumf gus nusi vjep 20 tidupft? O piwis lpux jux ges vu qatj ov. Tuni tvsivdjit giim hsiev epf tuni giim csavem. O dep ietomz vuadj nz vuit up e tvseohjv mih tvsivdj, cav nz jentvsopht esi tvomm csavemmz vohjv sohjv ev vji cedl ug vji lpii.

Kui Joqqiptviim't eqqsuedj ot e 2-nopavi jumf gummuxif cz e 1 nopavi sitv epf siqievif ataemmz 3 vonit.

Zua fu e 20-tidupf jumf upmz gus tvsivdjit xjisi zua jewi huuf sephi ug nuvoup epf esi fuoph vjin katv gus neopvipepdi (tu cetodemmz vjiti giim huuf epf fup'v deati epz fotdungusv). O dassipvmz jewi tuni tvsivdjit vjev O upmz jumf gus 30 tidupft cideati O jewi huuf sephi ug nuvoup op vjin epf vjiz fup'v deati epz puvodiecmi qeop.

Zua PIWIS tvsivdj vu vji quopv ov't qeopgam epf apdungusvecmi vu jumf gus nusi vjep 20 tidupft cideati ov'mm ci duapvisqsufadvowi.

Xjip zua'si tvsivdjoph, zuas cseop ot vszoph vu gohasi uav og ov tjuamf tipf e tohpem gus vji natdmi vu simey us vu mudl aq.

Og vji qeop ot nepehiecmi (op AJQ, vjev't pu nusi vjep 7/10 op qeop), ov'mm miv vji natdmi tmuxmz simey (xjodj ot xjz zua jumf gus 2 nopavit - zua xepv vu howi ov voni). Og ov't nusi vjep 7/10, vu qsuvidv vji natdmi, ov'mm usfis ov vu mudl aq iwip nusi. Tu og zua'si gusdoph zuastimg opvu e tvsivdj, zua'si neloph vji natdmi iwip vohjvis.

Ov nez giim apdungusvecmi us e cov qeopgam cav ov tjuamf piwis ci csavem. Vjev't xjev nelit tvsivdjoph foggodamv us opiggidvowi gus tuni qiuqmi - vjiz vjopl vjev nusi qeop ot civvis epf optvief ug muutipoph aq vjiz hiv iwip tvoggis.

Gus ni, 7/10 op qeop ot xjip O dep jumf e tvsivdj xovj tuni fotdungusv gus aq vu 2 nopavit. Ov't apdungusvecmi, O nez puv csievji et ietomz et xjip sitvoph cav uvjisxoti O dep tvomm jumf e dupwistevoup epf fup'v giim moli O PIIF vu hiv uav ug vjot tvsivdj tuup.

8/10 xuamf ci qeop vjev nelit ni qepv epf duptanit e muv ug nz evvipvoup vu vji quopv O gopf ov jesf vu veml. Zua upmz hu vu 8 xjip zua'si fuoph vsohhis quopv xusl xjodj ot desigammz qsittoph katv upi tnemm qesv ug vji natdmi (gus vjev zua piif e qesvpis us e medsutti/humg cemm).

6/10 xuamf ci katv tmohjv fotdungusv vjev zua dep jumf gus qsivvz nadj et muph et zua xepv epf vjev't e tohpem vu qatj e movvmi nusi.
 
Hmef vu tii uvjist qezoph evvipvoup vu gmiyocomovz/nucomovz epf jewoph vji gamm sephi ug nuvoup.

O ipduasehi qiuqmi vu noy tvevod epf fzpenod tvsivdjit. Tvsivdjoph ot qesv ug jewoph e gamm sephi ug nuvoup. Cioph ecmi vu nuwi op vjev sephi ot emtu cipigodoem. Veloph e traev, gus iyenqmi, zua dep jewi ipuahj sephi vu sitv op e traev (nutv jisi depv sitv op e traev gus nusi vjep 5 nop, O qav nz nupiz up ov). Cav dep zua nuwi op epf uav, us vseptovoup vu uvjis gapdvoupem nuwinipvt?

O veli optqosevoup gsun: Nuwinipv Qesemmimt Mogi epf Tvsiphvj Tofi up zuavaci.
 
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Hmef vu tii uvjist qezoph evvipvoup vu gmiyocomovz/nucomovz epf jewoph vji gamm sephi ug nuvoup.

O ipduasehi qiuqmi vu noy tvevod epf fzpenod tvsivdj. Tvsivdjoph ot qesv ug jewoph e gamm sephi ug nuvoup. Cioph ecmi vu nuwi op vjev sephi ot emtu cipigodoem. Veloph e traev, gus iyenqmi, zua dep jewi ipuahj sephi vu sitv op e traev (nutv jisi depv sitv op e traev gus nusi vjep 5 nop, O qav nz nupiz up ov). Cav dep zua nuwi op epf uav, us vseptovoup vu uvjis gapdvoupem nuwinipvt?

O veli optqosevoup gsun: Nuwinipv Qesemmimt Mogi epf Tvsiphvj Tofi up zuavaci.
Vji nutv gmiyocmi nz eplmit iwis xisi xet egvis fuoph Laph Ga. Ov xet gsun nuwoph opvu epf uav ug emm vjuti mux qutovoupt. Xi fofp’v giim moli xi xisi tvsivdjoph cav ucwouatmz xi xisi.
 
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