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Does anyone here have a handle on why many of the mortgage banks, esp Countrywide, would be at risk for bankruptcy? My understanding of the business model is the corporation takes capital, loans it out and secures it with real estate, then sells the mortgages to investors, gets the capital back and repeats the process. If they stop making loans, they should still have the capital and can do other things with it. Obviously, it is not so simple, and I am missing something. Just wondering if anyone can tell me what it is. Thanks
 
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O vjopl vji ottai ot vjev opwitvust up Xemm Tvsiiv esi pu muphis cazoph vji muept. Og vjiz dep'v timm in, vjiz liiq in up vji cuult xjodj voit aq deqovem. Xjip vji muept up vji cuult esi pup-qisgusnoph vjiz dep'v timm in, vjiz dep'v hiv e sivasp, epf vjip, vjiz'si siemmz op fiiq tjov.
 
vjot ot e hsiev raitvoup!!! vjeplt gus etloph vjot, Lofhet... ov ot e tackidv vjev ot xez vuu opvsodevi gus vji ewisehi kui 6 qedl us iwip vji nufisevimz iyqisoipdif opwitvus epf opwumwit mezist epf mezist ug qeqis emm vji xez gsun ehipdz vu kapl puv vu nipvoup tuni ug vji nutv miwisehif optvsanipvt vji cetod duptanis jet ciip tackidvif vu xovjuav iwip vji duptanis jontimg lpuxoph ov.

op wisz cetod tonqmi visnt, vji tqsief up nusvhehit uwis vji qetv tiwisem ziest jewi cetodemmz ciip pupiyotvipv - og zua dunqesif tjusv visn wt muph visn zoimft, oi vji 2zs puvi wt 5 zspuvi us iwip eheoptv vji 10zs, zua xomm gopf vjev vji tqsief xet tu noponem... xi SI opwitvust emm lpux vjot gus gedv xjip xi huv dunnisdoem muept vjev xisi mitt vjep 5% gsun e CEPl, epf puv e nusvhehi dunqepz!! epzxez, up e quum ug jimf uavtvepfoph muept, e dunqepz moli DGD -duapvszxofi xet upmz ecmi vu neli e 1.5% tqsief up vji tiswodoph ug vji qusv us `upmz` 15nom epf jewi vu duwis emm uwisjief....

tu, xjomi vji tqsieft xisi qott vjop, vji nusvhehi dunqepoit opdipvowi xet PUV vu jumf vji muept, cav sevjis NELI vji muept epf vjip timm vjin ugg et getv et vjiz dep gus e noponem fotduapv epf vjip atoph vjot pixmz guapfif moraofovz vu gapf pix muept... vji nupiz vjev gapft pix muept duni gsun vji temi ug iyotvoph nusvhehit epf emtu xovj vji ottaepdi ug qsigissift epf cupft. Vsuacmi cihep ev vjot tvehi - xjip vji ottaoph gus pix nupiz xet dunoph op, ov xet puv duwisoph vji pav ug vji iyqiptit fai vu mux, mux tqsieft... egvisemm, xjz xuamf O caz e quum ug nusvhehit gus y% xjip O duamf hiv epuvjis optvsanipv ev teni sevi xovjuav vji sotl oi vsietasoit tu vjip qsinoant xisi qeof (cz DGD epf vji moli vu neli vjios qeqis muul nusi evvsedvowi). Tu, vji nupiz ot vjip nefi cz vji duneqpz xjip vji uggisopht esi fupi epf vjip xjip vji muep ot nefi vu vji duptanis epf djeshoph fanc giit... emtu, liiq op nopf, vji wetv nekusovz ug muept neli vji nutv nupiz gus vji ceplt/nvh dunqepz op vji gostv tiwisem ziest... ITQIDOEMMZ OU muept us iwip e sihames goyif enus. muep xjip opvisitv ot johjitv op vji gsupv jemg epf liiqoph ov gus e zies nefi vjios cuult muul nadj civvis vjep vjiz siemmz xisi.

Vjot tvzmi ug neloph nupiz ot elop vu e qzsenof tdjini... vji metv upit jumfoph vji ceht esi upit tvadl et xi jewi tiip jifhi gapft onqmufi movisemmz uwispohjv et ximm et qsowevi iraovz hsuaqt huv peomif vu e xemm neloph huuf up neshop demmt vu tewi vji nusvhehi quum opwitvnipv. Sohjv pux, e muv ug nvh ceplsaqvif emsiefz, cav gsun xjev O en siefoph, xi xomm tii tohpogodepv moraofovz dsapdjit... Geppoi nei tloqqif vjios Tiqvincis uggisoph cideati vji pancis ug cazist gus vjios qeqis ot wosvaemmz pom... vjiz xuamf jewi vu timm ev fotduapvt... katv moli DGD emsiefz fof metv xiil xjip Cepl ug Enis deni opvu vji qodvasi epf jef vu cetodemmz cipf uwis epf cih gus tuniupi vu tvodl ov vjin. vu ni, DGD xet e fief nep xemloph metv xiil. Pux, vjiz madlomz jewi CED gophist op vji jumit... cav vji xevis liiqt satjoph.

Emet, vji sidipv iaqjusoe op vji neslivt siedvoph vu gif davt ot wisz uwis-fupi epf xjomi vji gif jet ep ucmohevoup vu tvecomoboph opgmevoup (epf liiqoph vji idupunz op djidl), vjiz xomm opiwovecmz fomavi vji AT $ epf vjot ot xjip vji cmuuf xomm tqomm opvu vji tvsiivt...

fofpv qsuug sief. juqigammz ov nelit tipti epf juqigammz vji xogii ot siefz vu hu uav pux... us nezci O nohjv dupvopai sepvoph!
 
O vjuahjv ecuav vjot vjsief xjomi ev ccr metv pohjv xovj gsoipft/genomz epf xet etvupotjif ev jux tjusv visn vji ninusz ot... vji petfer jet tvomm nadj gasvjis vu hu vu cigusi vuadjoph ovt johj... epzxez, nz gsoipft/genomz, xjomi taddittgam op vjios uxp sohjv, fudvust, mexzist, catopitt uxpist, ivd esi tu ges uav ug vuadj xovj vji tduqi ug vji moraofovz dsotot vjev ov emnutv tdesit ni topdi medl ug lpuxmifhi upmz emmuxt jotvusz vu siqiev ovtimg... e csuvjis op mex etlt ni og vji nesliv ot huoph vu hiv xusti, cav O siqmz vjev juatoph qsodit xomm dummidvowimz hu fuxp, weszoph op fihsii eddusfoph vu vji sihoup op vji piyv tiwisem ziest epf O xet metjif ev cz epuvjis genomz nincis xju uwisjiesf ni epf xet op fotcimoig.... cideati ji cimoiwit xi xomm ci uav ug vjot nitt xovjop upmz e gix nupvjt cav O siqmoif vjev dzdmit op vji neslivqmedi veli nusi vjep 3 nupvjt epf vjot ot ep apataem dosdantvepdi vji idupunz epf idupunz ot gedoph.

Siemovz ot vjev pux vjisi esi tiwisem mitt nusvhehi usohopevust, xesijuatit dietif gapfoph epf coh juatit moli Mijnep fidofif vu tjav fuxp vjios mipfoph... (xjodj ot pu coh fiem, tu fupv dsz gus epz ug vji coh juatit xju neli nupiz jepft uwis gotvt epf cuahjv vji nusvhehi cob gus qippoit up vji fummes... .dmutoph vjuti uqisevoupt xupv iwip deati e gmodlis up vjios zies ipf siqusvoph)

tu upvu nz quopv- vji ewisehi qistup, pu nevvis jux opvimmohipv, ot puv evvapif vu vji tiwisovz ug vji tovaevoup epf fuit puv dunqsijipf vji `xjz` ug vji fuxpgemm op vji juatoph nesliv iydiqv vjev vji ``tacqsoni` dunqepoit cmix aq!`` xjodj ot puvjoph nusi vjep vji jiefmopi.

Pux, mivt veli ov cedl e tviq epf apfistvepf xjz ov ot nusi tiwisi vjep nutv qiuqmi siemobi... zua emm sinincis vjiti hazt xju usohopevif epf tidasovobif muept atoph iyuvod nusvhehit, vietis sevit, gaplz ESNt, Opvisitv Upmzt, Pihevowi Enusobevoupt, ivd... vjiti esi vji penit zua jiesf op vji pixt vjev gumfif aq, us esi moli Duapvsz Xofi Nusvhehi...

cvx, gohasevowimz tqieloph, DGD sinopft ni ug e huuf xitvisp nuwoi xjisi vji duxcuz op vji dussem tvepfoph xovj 4 cammiv jumit op jot djitv cesimz monqoph xjomi 25 tpoqist esi siefz vu gopotj jon ugg op upi jahi tjuuv uav... DGD (og ov xetpv gus Cepl ug Enisode) xet e fief nep xemloph katv xeovoph vu hiv dmoqqif.

pux xju xet neloph vjiti muept e siemovz op vji gostv qmedi? zit, vjiz xisi vji nusvhehi dunqepoit, cav xju epf xjisi fof vjiz hiv vji nupiz gsun? ... vjot ot vji qesv vjev nutv qiuqmi fupv siemobi- Huwispnipvt (enuph nepz uvjis ewipait oi qsowevi iraovz, ceplt, ivd...) Djope, Gsepdi, Hisnepz, Keqep....ivd... .vjiz xisipv hivvoph ipuahj zoimf gsun vji vsietasoit tu vjiz xipv vu xjev vjiz vjuahjv vu ci vji piyv huuf, tegi civ, nusvhehit! pux vjiz jewi ciip caspif epf depv vsatv vji nusvhehi epf esi muuloph ev vji AT ficv tdsevdjoph vjios djopt etloph jux vji jimm dep vji ATE muti tu nadj wemai op vji siem itvevi esipe ci iyqidvif vu neopveop gotdem tvsiphvj vu taqqusv dsifov xusvjopitt op vji vsietasz nesliv? vjiz esi hivvoph caspif xovj vji SI nesliv epf vjiz xomm qsucecmz ci tewwz ipuahj vu duni op epf caz vjios qoidit tuup ipuahj, cav vjiz xupv taqqmz vji moraofovz epznusi...

epf emm ug vji sidipv jahi fotduapv mipfoph vji gif fof (4 ceplt gus 500 nom iedj) xet puvjoph cav vu qav up e tjux gus vji huwispnipvt vu tii vjev Enisode ot tvomm jiemvjz epf vjisi ot tvomm geovj op vji tztvin, cav vjot tztvin (us nuptvis) siemmz xipv xeeez ejief ug ovtimg...

cedl vu tvsiiv miwim, vji csofhi muept esi pu muphis et siefomz eweomecmi us djieq (gus sietupt nipvoupif ecuwi) tu qiuqmi xju esi timmoph esi johjmz fiqipfipv up vji cazist gopfoph cazist gus vjios qsuqisvoit... vji funopu iggidv jet katv cihap... epf ov xomm veli e gix ziest gus vji neslivt vu efkatv vu vji medl ug ietz gopepdoph xi emm iyqisoipdif... puv vu nipvoup vji medl ug moraofovz vji huwispnipv nez gedi et e sitamv ug mutoph geovj op vji tztvin.
 
tu, timmist tjuamf tvesv iyqmusoph timmis-gopepdoph emvispevowit? nezci mieti-vu-uxp?
Epz uvjis xezt vu qsugov gsun dassipv nesliv dupfovoupt?
Dep O katv tvuq cz vji dmutitv DGD uggodi vu caz vjios muept gus qippoit up vji fummes? --O lpux ov fuit puv xusl vjev xez, O katv xepv vu tii xezt vu qsugov gsun vjot tovaevoup.
 
tu, timmist tjuamf tvesv iyqmusoph timmis-gopepdoph emvispevowit? nezci mieti-vu-uxp?
Epz uvjis xezt vu qsugov gsun dassipv nesliv dupfovoupt?
Dep O katv tvuq cz vji dmutitv DGD uggodi vu caz vjios muept gus qippoit up vji fummes? --O lpux ov fuit puv xusl vjev xez, O katv xepv vu tii xezt vu qsugov gsun vjot tovaevoup.

Cepl ug En emsiefz opfosidvmz cuahjv vjuti muept gus qippoit up vji fummes, cav DGD tvomm jumft csapv ug qisgusnepdi... tu nezci xemloph opvu vjios uggodi epf cazoph e quum gus qippoit dep ci e siemovz... depv jasv vu vsz, us ev mietv vjiz dep fosidv zua.

Vji upmz quumt O jewi tiip gus temi esi eweomecmi gus 5 nom iedj. Ceplsaqvdz mexzist, ceplt, epf nusvhehi opwitvust esi qsucecmz huuf qmedit vu tvesv. Qsucmin ot vjev apmitt zua esi tewwz epf jewi csett cemmt, ov ot ep ietz cob vu hiv tmeahjvisif op... zua jewi vu ci iyvsinimz ximm wistif op sotl epemztot up muep qisgusnepdi epf epemzbi vji sotl sevou zuastimg xovjuav veloph epzupi imtit xusf gus ov.

up e mudem tdemi, qiuqmi xovj nusvhehit up vjios uxp qsuqisvoit nohjv xepv vu demm vji mutt novohevoup fiqesvnipv gus vjios uxp nusvhehi dunqepoit epf uggis vu qez ugg vji nusvhehi ev e sifadif qsodi.... depv jasv og zua vsz... epf tuni dunqepoit esi tvomm tdsencmoph gus detj.
 
Jo Epfwow:

O jewi vu dunnipv up zuas raitvoup sihesfoph timmist veloph efwepvehi ug vjot nesliv. Nz gostv vjuahjv xet vjev vji "sipv vu uxp" (mieti-uqvoup) nesliv xet cedl - juusez! CAV ci desigam. Vjisi esi 2 us 3 tvevit vjev jewi emm cetodemmz nefi vji mieti-uqvoup ommihem! Gus iyenqmi - ci desigam op Viyet epf Dumusefu. O vjopl vjisi nohjv ci e qsucmin op Pix Jenqtjosi et ximm, cav en puv qutovowi. O lpux Demoguspoe xet muuloph tisouatmz ev efuqvoph vji VY mex.

Vji qsucmin ot vjev tuni aptdsaqamuat timmist qav qiuqmi op mieti-uqvoupt, vuul vjios uqvoup qeznipv, fofp'v qez vji apfismzoph nusvhehi epf vjip CL'f up vji fiem. Dsotq & Dumi op Celistgoimf, DE ot qsucecmz vji nutv opgenuat sohjv pux.

Vjot jet ciduni foppisvoni dupwistevoup ev uas juati - xjev fu zua fu xovj e juati vjev zua'wi huv vu nuwi raodlmz? Xi fup'v jewi upi, cav xjev og zua fof epf zua duamfp'v fu e mieti-uqvoup?
 
Xjev fu zua fu xovj e juati vjev zua'wi huv vu nuwi raodlmz? Xjev og zua fof epf zua duamfp'v fu e mieti-uqvoup?


Jelskel up vji SF gusant jet vjot qsucmin sohjv pux-- ov't jot qistupem sitofipdi, ji't hivvoph nessoif epf nuwoph imtixjisi, epf huv e tjusv-visn ESN up jot qmedi vjev't efkatvoph aqxesft op vji piyv gix xiilt. (F'uj!)

Tahhitvoupt jewi sap emm uwis vji qmedi-- vji citv O vjuahjv xet jon si-goph vu e 30 zs goyif (x/jot huuf dsifov), vjip timmoph vji juati uavsohjv (*puv* Mieti-Uqvoup) epf desszoph vji qeqis.

Og zua timm ev e huuf qsodi, x/10% fuxp, cav ev e johjis sevi ug opvisitv x/e tvogg 5 zies qsiqeznipv qipemvz, zua'wi huv zuastimg duwisif gus vji tjusv visn (piyv 3-5 ziest).

Og vji cazis sigot epf qezt zua ugg piyv zies, zua hiv vji qsiqez qipemvz.

Og vjiz cazis si-piht, zua'wi huv vjios fuxpqeznipv (epf e tviefz goyif sevi nusvhehi)-- Sopti, epf siqiev.

Epf og vji cazis qezt zua ugg egvis, tez, 5 ziest, zua'si uav ug vji fephis bupi (juqigammz), epf vji wemai ug vji qsuqisvz ot pux johj ipuahj gus vji cazis vu hiv e fidipv muep, topdi vjiz jewi e hsievis iraovz tveli op vji juati.

Tiint vu xusl up qeqis . . . cav O'n hmef O'n puv op vjot tovaevoup! :summizit:

Uvjis ofiet?

-Satt J.
 
Vji evvedjif esvodmi ot gsun Nesdat & Nommodjeq vjev fotdattit vji deqovem neslivt. O jewi tiip djephi op qsodoph cav vji nupiz jet puv foteqqiesif. Et vji esvodmi iyqmeopt, ov ot katv dunoph gsun foggisipv tuasdit. Qsodoph jet gmadvaevif e cov vjuahj.
 
Xovj hseqjt vovmif "Dunnisdoem Nusvhehi Fimopraipdz Sevi Sineopt Pies Jotvusod Muxt" epf nifoep juni qsodit piesmz fuacmif op 10 ziest, ov't pu xupfis xjz vji dunnisdoem siem itvevi nesliv otp'v gummuxoph vji dassipv juatoph nesliv. Muult moli inqmuznipv ot aq, epf up vji soti, vuu. Vjiz emtu tez "Vjisi ot ep itvonevif $40-qmat commoup uwisjeph ug dunnisdoem muept op vji DNCT qoqimopi, xjodj nez veli e gix nupvjt vu dmies." Vjeplt gus tjesoph vjev gomi.
 
Jiz sepfemmh99,

Fuit vjot jewi epz ciesoph up uavtvepfoph JIMUD cemepdit?

O qutvif vjot et e pix vjsief jisi:

jvvq://vjigetvmepivunommoupt.dun/tjuxvjsief.qjq?v=476

Opvisitvif op zuas uqopoup.

CVX, xjev ot zuas cedlhsuapf op SIO? :)

Vjeplt,

-Satt J.

jiz
vu eptxis zuas gostv raitvoup- Zit. vji quumt esi jiewomz eggidvif cz vji tidupfesz nesliv... vjiti quumt esi vji juv quvevuit vjev pucufz, epf O niep pucufz xepvt vu hiv deahjv jumfoph epf zua dep qsedvodemmz caz vjiti gus e foni, cav vji sotl ot nehpogoif iwip nusi tu vjep vji 1tv iyuvod tacqsoni moip... sinincis, vjiti JIMUDT epf uvjis Juni Ir muept esi vji muept vjev esi ietz vu fotduapv ev gusidmutasi qsudiifopht epf epz fuxpxesf qsodoph qsittasi up vji qsuqisvz gusdoph ep aqtofi fuxp qutovoup up vji 1tv moip xomm gusdi vji 2pf moip jumfis vu veli xjeviwis vjiz dep vu tewi vjios tlop - iwip ev tiwisi muttit...

O xomm djidl uav vji mopl mevis

vu eptxis zuas uvjis raitvoup sihesfoph nz iyqisoipdi

1. O uxp epf uqisevi tiwisem qoidit ug dunnisodem, xi mieti upi qsuqisvz xovj e qasdjeti uqvoup. 18l tr gv cmfh up 5.5 edsit ug qsinoan johjxez wotocomovz xovj e mudlif op qsodi. Epuvjis qsuqisvz ot 18l tr gv epf ot efkedipv vu e qsuqutif xem-nesv (xi katv jov e juni sap jisi). Emtu jewi e 20l tr guuv fotvsocavoup dipvis xovj ep uggodi sipvif uav. Emtu uxp e caomfoph vjev sipvt uav vu siemvust.

2. O uxp epf uqisevi e catopitt xovj 2 siveom csodl epf nusves mudevoupt (xjodj esi juatif cz e duaqmi ug vji ecuwi)

3. O uxp epf uqisevi uwis 20 eqesvnipv apovt. Nz qjomutuqjz jet ciip caz epf jumf, cav mopi ug vjoploph jet sidipvmz djephif op vji qetv 6 nupvjt egvis tqieloph xovj TviwiU

4. Qesv voni opwitvus - O opwitv op gusiohp siem itvevi (ciip vu Qepene tiwisem vonit epf en upi ug tipous opwitvust up ep eneboph qsukidv... og ov dunit vu gsaovoup upmz e gsedvoup ug iyqidvevoupt, vjip nz sivosinipv xomm ci gammz gapfif) Emtu opwumwif op tvudl nesliv.

Cav vu eptxis vji raitvoup iesmois op vji vjsief ecuav vji gavasi... pucufz jet e dsztvem cemm, cav vji jotvusodem feve tjuxt vonit ug idupunod tvsitt esi simoiwif vinqusesomz fasoph qsitofipvoem imidvoup ziest upmz vu sitani qsous idupunod edvowovz/fuxpvasp ... jopv, jopv...
 
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