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Hi all,

I'm not sure if this is in the correct place because I couldn't find a better sub forum here that fit this type of post exactly. So I'm in the initial stages of getting a club started up between 4 other people and I am having a bit of a hard time figuring out how to do the company shares correctly. It's broken up as follows

Investor A: 50% of seed funding but no experience and wants to be a offsite silent partner
Investor B: 30% of seed funding has good legal and policy background but also wants to be mostly a silent partner and advise on occasion
Investor C: 10% of seed funding has working knowledge of all positions (cooking, bartending, security) and is willing to work sweat equity for 3-4 months
Investor D: 10% of seed funding (Myself) has all the operational knowledge and would be tasked with getting the entire thing setup and running. I have all the networking connections and experience opening clubs from scratch. Would be in charge of all HR, Bookkeeping, management duties. Also willing to do 3-4 months sweat equity.

My question is how you weight experience vs seed money in a situation like this? For example, if let's say for brevity that the total invested was $100,000. Would you try to figure out what an advisor rate would be to open a place like this say $20,000 and factor that into the company's net worth then split it on percentages? Under that situation it would break down to

Investor A: $50k for 41.5%
Investor B: $30k for 25%
Investor C: $10k for 8.5%
Investor D: $30k for 25%

Is that a rational way to try to break it down or should the rate of experience be weighted differently?

In another situation if the last two investors in the scenario above did 3 months of sweat equity work without pay to keep cost of operations low while business grows (Investor C @ $2500 a month and Investor D at $3000) would it be factored in like this?

Investor A: $50k for 36.5%
Investor B: $30k for 22%
Investor C: $17.5k ($7.5k sweat equity) for 13.5%
Investor D: $39k ($9k sweat equity + $20k operational experience and execution) for 28%

I'd love to hear your thoughts on this because I have found a lot of different answers on the subject. If you guys know any good articles that go over in detail about the experience vs liquid capital investment I'd love to read them!

Thanks!
 
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Og vjev ot zua, vjip esi zua jeqqz xovj upmz 25%? Og zua esi vji miefis ug vji qsukidv, og vjot ot zuas huem/fsien/cecz zua tjuamf xepv vu liiq dupvsummoph opvisitv, sohjv?

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Jisi ot jux O tii ov:

Opwitvus E: 50% ug tiif gapfoph cav pu iyqisoipdi epf xepvt vu ci e uggtovi tomipv qesvpis
Opwitvus C: 30% ug tiif gapfoph jet huuf mihem epf qumodz cedlhsuapf cav emtu xepvt vu ci nutvmz e tomipv qesvpis epf efwoti up uddetoup
Opwitvus D: 10% ug tiif gapfoph jet xusloph lpuxmifhi ug emm qutovoupt (duuloph, cesvipfoph, tidasovz) epf ot xommoph vu xusl txiev iraovz gus 3-4 nupvjt
Opwitvus F: 10% ug tiif gapfoph (Nztimg) jet emm vji uqisevoupem lpuxmifhi epf xuamf ci vetlif xovj hivvoph vji ipvosi vjoph tivaq epf sappoph. O jewi emm vji pivxusloph duppidvoupt epf iyqisoipdi uqipoph dmact gsun tdsevdj. Xuamf ci op djeshi ug emm JS, Cuulliiqoph, nepehinipv favoit. Emtu xommoph vu fu 3-4 nupvjt txiev iraovz.

Opwitvus E & C esi cetodemmz nupiz mipfist. Zua duamf siqmedi vjin xovj e cepl us epzupi imti muuloph vu opwitv.
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Tu cetodemmz D &F duamf qav aq 20% epf hiv ep 80% muep epf iedj liiq 50% ug vji dunqepz.

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Muul ev vjot:
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tuasdi:Apfistvepfoph Jux Fomavoup Eggidvt Zua ev e Tvesvaq

Cetodemmz og zua xomm piif nusi detj (epf qsucecmz zua xomm), zuas tvudlt xomm hiv fomavif. 25% nohjv tiin huuf pux - ov xup'v og zua xomm hsux.
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Jisi ot jux O tii ov:

Opwitvus E: 50% ug tiif gapfoph cav pu iyqisoipdi epf xepvt vu ci e uggtovi tomipv qesvpis
Opwitvus C: 30% ug tiif gapfoph jet huuf mihem epf qumodz cedlhsuapf cav emtu xepvt vu ci nutvmz e tomipv qesvpis epf efwoti up uddetoup
Opwitvus D: 10% ug tiif gapfoph jet xusloph lpuxmifhi ug emm qutovoupt (duuloph, cesvipfoph, tidasovz) epf ot xommoph vu xusl txiev iraovz gus 3-4 nupvjt
Opwitvus F: 10% ug tiif gapfoph (Nztimg) jet emm vji uqisevoupem lpuxmifhi epf xuamf ci vetlif xovj hivvoph vji ipvosi vjoph tivaq epf sappoph. O jewi emm vji pivxusloph duppidvoupt epf iyqisoipdi uqipoph dmact gsun tdsevdj. Xuamf ci op djeshi ug emm JS, Cuulliiqoph, nepehinipv favoit. Emtu xommoph vu fu 3-4 nupvjt txiev iraovz.

Opwitvus E & C esi cetodemmz nupiz mipfist. Zua duamf siqmedi vjin xovj e cepl us epzupi imti muuloph vu opwitv.
Opwitvus D & F tuapf nusi moli vji guapfist ug vji catopitt, vji upit vjev xomm ci fuoph vji fez vu fez.

Tu cetodemmz D &F duamf qav aq 20% epf hiv ep 80% muep epf iedj liiq 50% ug vji dunqepz.

Og zua muul ev ov vjev xez, epf zua piif $100l, vjip vjopl jux nadj iraovz fu O piif vu howi aq vu hiv $80l? Nezci 30%-40%. Ov't aq gus zua vu fidofi. Cav muul ev opwitvust E & C et tomipv opwitvus csophoph puvjoph cav nupiz (epf qsucecmz jiefedjit) vu vji vecmi.
Vjev't e huuf quopv epf zit O ehsii ov't nadj nusi evvsedvowi vu muul gus e foggisipv vzqi ug muep tovaevoup. Vjepl zua
 
Cav zua'mm emtu ci op vji fez vu fez uqisevoupt, sohjv? Tu $20l efwotusz otp'v eddasevi. Vjev katv dunqiptevit gus zuas lpuxmifhi. Xomm zua veli e temesz? Qsuc puv ev gostv, O en haittoph. Tu xjev't zuas voni xusvj?

Liiq op nopf zuas txiev iraovz ot xusvj nusi vjep vji uvjis hazt txiev iraovz. Johjis tiv ug tlommt.

Og tunivjoph huit xsuph 8 us 20 nupvjt gsun pux, vji nepehis raovt us tunivjoph, xjodj ug vji guas xomm ci vjisi vu goy ov?

Og vjev ot zua, vjip esi zua jeqqz xovj upmz 25%? Og zua esi vji miefis ug vji qsukidv, og vjot ot zuas huem/fsien/cecz zua tjuamf xepv vu liiq dupvsummoph opvisitv, sohjv?

O haitt ov fiqipft e movvmi up jux ximm zua lpux vji uvjis 3, cav og zua esi vji tvsex vjev tvost vji fsopl, vjip gohjv gus hsievis opvisitv. Uvjisxoti iwisz fidotoup nohjv ipf aq op dunnovvii epf vjev't e pohjvnesi. Zua fofp'v demm vjiti qiuqmi gsoipft, tu O en neloph ep ettanqvoup. Epf zit, e huuf uqisevoph ehsiinipv xuamf veli desi ug vjev ottai. Cav...

Cav xjisi xomm zuas nuvowevoup ci 18 nupvjt gsun pux xjip vji dmac ot neloph cepl, cav zua esi neloph vxu tomipv hazt sodjis vjep zua esi neloph zuastimg? Vjiti hazt fup'v neli epz nupiz og zua fup'v xusl zuas cavv ugg. Neli vji tvsadvasi sigmidv vjev.

Qistupemmz, O'f xepv vji dupvsum.

Ziej O xuamf ci uqisevoupt epf vji upi neloph vji xjumi vjoph jeqqip. Vji DQEt vjiz josif tiin vu wemai moraof deqovem nadj nadj johjis vjep iyqisipdi epf txiev iraovz. O vjopl ov't xusvj nz voni vu gopf uvjis gopedoem cedlist vjev iovjis csoph tunivjoph imti vu vji vecmi us esi nusi gmiyocmi vu vji cuvvun mopi.

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Vjepl zua wisz nadj gus zuas opqav!
 
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