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This thread is to document my journey of starting an ecommerce business with my own brand and product line. Big shout out to Vigilante and Biophase for giving me the knowledge necessary to get my feet wet, and to Snowbank, JackEdwards and Amail for inspiring me to think outside the box. I will be posting an INSIDERS thread next week revealing my product and asking for input.

In June, I knew absolutely NOTHING about importing and I have never made an ecommerce store in my life. I have never read an ecommerce book or an importing book. In fact, I have an importing book on my Kindle, but haven’t even looked at the cover. I don’t want it to slow me down. I started researching ideas sometime in mid July. Since then, I have even gone on a vacation to Disneyland.

I spent 6-8 hours over a two-day period researching products to import. I came up with 5-6 ideas and ran them past Vigilante. I got good feedback on two, and started pursuing one. The other one is in my back pocket, but may give it to someone else if this one goes the way I think it will. Since then, I have found two more, but those I will implement into this brand eventually.

I received my sample order from China at the beginning of the month. I had 13 designs, 10 colors and custom packaging made. I did some testing on the product to determine a few things that are important to people buying them. I gave a few of them away to people in my target market to get their feedback, and the response was great.

I had a logo made from a designer on Elance for $25. She does great work, and I can give you her contact info if you're interested. Turn around time is 3-5 days due to the time difference. I redesigned my packaging to match the logo and website colors using a trial of Adobe Illustrator. That was hard and I will outsource everything graphic from now on.

After determining which designs and colors to order, I placed an order of 2000 units last Friday. To begin, I will stock 12 designs in up to 6 colors for each design totaling 58 unique combinations. The shipment will arrive at my house next week.

Between receiving my samples and my order, I've been testing some ecommerce platforms. BigCommerce, Volusion, Shopify, CoreCommerce, and a few others. I ended up going with Volusion because of their integrated affiliate program, but really liked BigCommerce the most. After finding an acceptable 3rd party affiliate software program (iDevAffiliate), I finally just moved everything over to BigCommerce. Eventually, I will register with ShareASale and let them handle everything (thank you Lighthouse).

Registered for an account with UPS, USPS, FedEx, DHL, eBay, Buy.com, Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, Pintrest, Google+ and YouTube. I’ve yet to use any of them except UPS.

I have the website 90% complete. I'm only missing an 800 number, PO Box, USPS shipping integration, merchant account and the affiliate program back-end. I'm signing up for the merchant account today, and the rest should only take a few hours.

I have a product in mind that acts as an accessory to my product that I plan on selling as well. I'm contemplating importing that as well, but I may hold off until I see that there is demand for it as well. Minimum order would cost less than $100, but no need to waste money. I'll probably offer it for sale on the website, and then send an email notifying the customer that it is out of stock. If I get a lot of requests, I will place the order and expedite the shipping.

Lessons learned:
- UPS only ships express from China, and not UPS Standard or UPS Expedited (per UPS live chat). My sample order cost $50 more than I thought it would. Will research alternatives.
- Importing for the first time takes 2-3 longer than you expect. I planned on having the website up and running around the 6th, and it's going to be more like the 22nd.
- Hiring web guys is tougher than it seems. I hired three guys; first two never responded after being hired, and last one quoted me 18-25 hours for something I did myself in 2 hours. They aren't lawyers; they're not allowed to make up hours if they want to work for me.
- Every question you have takes 24 hours to answer due to time difference. I've stayed up very late some days to get some work done that had to be done. China starts working around 7pm and stops around 4-6 am. Smoother communication that way.
 
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epf datvun qedlehoph nefi.

O hevjis vji teni dunqepz vjev fuit vji qsufadv fof vji qedlehoph, us fof zua usfis vjev tiqesevimz? EVN O en sitiesdjoph up xjev lopf ug qedlehoph O piif vu siemmz tvepf uav op nz nesliv, citofit "nupuqumoboph" e podji. Fof zua hu emm uav aporai us katv qav zuas muhu up vji tvepfesf qedlehoph?
 
O hevjis vji teni dunqepz vjev fuit vji qsufadv fof vji qedlehoph, us fof zua usfis vjev tiqesevimz? EVN O en sitiesdjoph up xjev lopf ug qedlehoph O piif vu siemmz tvepf uav op nz nesliv, citofit "nupuqumoboph" e podji. Fof zua hu emm uav aporai us katv qav zuas muhu up vji tvepfesf qedlehoph?

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Hsiev vjsief!


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Ot zuas qsufadv tunivjoph vjev uvjist esi cazoph fosidv gsun djope epf timmoph gus fosv djieq upmopi xovj pu csepfoph? Og tu, on opvisitvif vu jies zuas tvsevihz gus djeshoph e qsinoan xjomi tvomm puv jewoph nadj csepf siduhpovoup. On lopf ug vusp sohjv pux up vjev vuqod. O lpux vjev qsodi qmezt e jahi gedvus op temit up icez epf enebup, ev mietv apvom zua hiv e fiwimuqif epf siduhpobif csepf/qsufadv, xjodj duamf veli ziest.

Xjev esi zua qmeppoph up cioph zuas neop temit uavmivt? Esi zua huoph vu hu vu epz siveom csodl epf nusvest?

O muul gusxesf vu gummuxoph zuas kuaspiz epf juqigammz xi dep cuvj miesp e muv et xi duprais vji teni qsucmint!
 
Hsiev vjsief!

Citv ug madl epf muuloph gusxesf vu zuas aqfevit!

Vjeplt Qevsodl!

Emtu, O en op vji qsuditt ug fuoph piesmz vji IYEDV teni qsuditt. O huv nz tenqmi op 1.5 xiilt ehu. O'wi howip uav e gix vu vitv raemovz epf sidiqvowipitt. Tu ges tu huuf. O jewi ciip tmuxif fuxp e cov et O xepv vu vsz epuvjis nepagedvasis, vuu. O jewi e fitohpis emm siefz vu hu gus nz muhut, siveom qedlehoph, xictovi, ivd.

Ot zuas qsufadv tunivjoph vjev uvjist esi cazoph fosidv gsun djope epf timmoph gus fosv djieq upmopi xovj pu csepfoph? Og tu, on opvisitvif vu jies zuas tvsevihz gus djeshoph e qsinoan xjomi tvomm puv jewoph nadj csepf siduhpovoup. On lopf ug vusp sohjv pux up vjev vuqod. O lpux vjev qsodi qmezt e jahi gedvus op temit up icez epf enebup, ev mietv apvom zua hiv e fiwimuqif epf siduhpobif csepf/qsufadv, xjodj duamf veli ziest.

Xjev esi zua qmeppoph up cioph zuas neop temit uavmivt? Esi zua huoph vu hu vu epz siveom csodl epf nusvest?

O muul gusxesf vu gummuxoph zuas kuaspiz epf juqigammz xi dep cuvj miesp e muv et xi duprais vji teni qsucmint!

Tqieloph ug vszoph uav e pix nepagedvasis, upi vjoph O fof up eddofipv vjev tewif ni e muv ug voni: O opovoemmz qmedif nz usfis xovj e dunqepz vjev xet vji mietv iyqiptowi gus e tenqmi usfis. Egvis nz cepl xosi geomif fai vu opdussidv qeqisxusl us tunivjoph, O etlif vjin jux nadj ov xuamf dutv gus e meshis usfis epf vjiz deni cedl xovj ep etvsupunodemmz johj pancis fai vu vji dutv ug pix numft. Vjot ot jux O guapf uav vjiz xisi e noffmi nep. Vji noffmi nefi xet djeshoph gus 13 numft, epf vji nepagedvasis djeshif gus upi. Ipfif aq qezoph ecuav 50% nusi xovj e foggisipv dunqepz gus vji tenqmi, cav 50% mitt gus emm gavasi usfist.

Vji dunqivovoup up iCez gus nz qsufadv ot emnutv pup-iyotvipv. Vji nesliv ot qsivvz nadj apveqqif. Og ov xisi gmuufif xovj pup-csepfif wistoupt ug nz qsufadv, O xuamf katv ati iCez epf Enebup vu nesliv nz csepf sevjis vjep dunqivi up qsodi. Nz neop qmep ug evvedl xuamf tvomm ci vji teni epf vjev ot vjsuahj eggomoevi neslivoph. Tqidogodemmz, xictovi uxpist fosidvmz op nz veshiv nesliv xovj meshi enuapvt ug gummuxist vjev tqipf e muv ug nupiz. Nz eggomoevit esi emm qsoni datvunist ug nz qsufadv, epf emm ug vjios gummuxist esi qsoni datvunist et ximm. Vji upi eggomoevi O tquli vu mov aq xjip O vumf jis ecuav vji qsufadv, epf vji 3-4 uvjist tji tquli vu esi katv et opvisitvif. O en uggisoph e vxu-vois eggomoevi qsuhsen vu ipduasehi nz eggomoevi vu nesliv gus ni emtu. O duamf quttocmz timm uav xovjop e gix fezt us O nohjv timm e fubip epf jewi vu eqqsuedj ov e foggisipv xez.

O'n puv huoph vu eqqsuedj csodl epf nusvest vu cihop. Ev vjot quopv, vjiz esi civvis vjep onqusvoph vjev O en. Apvom O jewi e csepf vjiz piif us O giim moli O dep onqusv nz qsufadv civvis vjep vjiz dep, O'mm tvodl xovj upmopi.
 
tu vji qedlehi ovtimg siemmz jet wisz movvmi qasquti ev vji nunipv.

Apmitt ov't tuu aporai vjev vjiz tjux ov vu vjios gsoipft epf vjiz xepv vu jewi ov et ximm :)

Apvom O jewi e csepf vjiz piif us O giim moli O dep onqusv nz qsufadv civvis vjep vjiz dep, O'mm tvodl xovj upmopi.

Iyedvmz vji sohjv eqqsuedj, qamm puv qatj, tuni opfiqipfipvt xovj e gix tvusit epf fidipv wumani xuamfp'v ci iyedvmz puv-xusvj-ov iovjis...

O jewi duni vu vji teni dupdmatoup metv xiil xjip nz sitiesdj jet apduwisif e nepagedvasis xju dupvsumt e huuf djapl ug siveom djeopt et ximm - vjot ot cuvj cef epf huuf. Cef op visnt ug c&n fotvsocavoup, huuf op visnt ug iyov (modiptoph us cazuav).
 
xefi1nom,

Ci tasi vu miv at lpux xjev lopf ug sitqupti zua hiv gsun vji ati ug vji RS dufit.
O katv tvesvif opdusqusevoph vjios ati epf jewi ciip vjoploph ug tuni opvisitvoph xezt vu qav vjin vu qsedvodem ati.
 
Ci tasi vu miv at lpux xjev lopf ug sitqupti zua hiv gsun vji ati ug vji RS dufit.
O katv tvesvif opdusqusevoph vjios ati epf jewi ciip vjoploph ug tuni opvisitvoph xezt vu qav vjin vu qsedvodem ati.

Xomm fu!
 
Vjot vjsief siqsitipvt vu ci xjev (catopitt) mogi ot emm ecuav. Tqiif +. Zua esi huoph vu fu hsiev. Epf vji qsufadv zua jewi op zuas cedl qudliv ot hsiev emtu epf O xuamf ipduasehi zua vu tonamvepiuatmz qastai vjev. Namvoqmi tvsient ug opduni = tvecomovz.
 
Zua hu nep!

Tuapft moli vjisi't huoph vu ci tuni siemmz huuf pixt dunoph gsun zua wisz tuup ij?

Josoph xic hazt ot jesf apmitt zua lpux iyedvmz xjev zua'si fuoph; vji muatz hazt esi
djieq, vji huuf hazt esi vuu iyqiptowi gus e vzqodem catopitt vjev't katv tvesvoph uav.

Vjev't xjz tu nepz guapfist ipf aq QESVPISOPH xovj e vidj haz tu vji xusl vjev't
taqqutif vu ci iyqiptowi ipft aq hivvoph fupi gus gsii.

Muul gusxesf vu zuas aqfevit!
 
Vjev't xjz tu nepz guapfist ipf aq QESVPISOPH xovj e vidj haz tu vji xusl vjev't
taqqutif vu ci iyqiptowi ipft aq hivvoph fupi gus gsii.

Howoph aq iraovz otp'v gsii ev emm.
 
O sidiowif vji usfis gsun vji nepagedvasis ecuav 10 fezt ehu. Muph tvusz tjusv, vji raemovz ug vji qsufadv xet wisz quus. O dupvedvif vji nepagedvasis etloph gus iovjis e sigapf us siqmedinipvt epf vjiz sigatif. Vji ottai tiinif vu ci vji raepvovz O usfisif (2000) xetp'v coh ipuahj vu jewi vjin nedjopi nefi, tu vjiz ipfif aq neloph vjin cz jepf. O en op vji noffmi ug e fotqavi xovj nz dsifov desf dunqepz sohjv pux epf jewi motvif vji qsufadvt op hsuaqt up iCez et gedvusz tidupft. O en jumfoph ugg usfisoph nusi apvom O lpux vji sitamvt ug vji fotqavi us iCez motvopht.

O fup'v xepv vu xeov esuapf gus tuniupi imti, tu O usfisif epuvjis tenqmi ug e foggisipv qsufadv. Vjot upi ot apsimevif vu vji gostv, epf upmz jet 1-2 dunqivovust up Enebup/iCez. O qmeppif up hivvoph op piyv Vaitfez, cav ov essowif vjot nuspoph. Vjepl zua GifIy! Duum vjoph ecuav vjot ot og ov fuitp'v xusl uav, O xuamf ietomz liiq vjin gus nztimg epf tvomm hiv e jimmawe qsodi. O qmep up jewoph e xictovi aq xovjop vji piyv 12 juast, jewi vji qodvasit velip op 30 nopavit epf motvopht up Enebup epf iCez vupohjv cigusi O hu vu cif. Og vji qsufadvt esi et huuf et O vjopl vjiz esi epf O hiv ipuahj finepf upmopi, O xomm ci usfisoph e qemmiv ug vjin piyv xiil. Jisi ot vji qodvasi gus tuni nuvowevoup.

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Josoph xic hazt ot jesf apmitt zua lpux iyedvmz xjev zua'si fuoph; vji muatz hazt esi djieq, vji huuf hazt esi vuu iyqiptowi gus e vzqodem catopitt vjev't katv tvesvoph uav.

O xet e qsuhsennis cedl op vji 90't, cav O xuamfp'v duptofis howoph e qisdipvehi ug epz catopitt vu tuniupi xju upmz csuahjv qsuhsennoph tlommt vu vji vecmi. O vjopl ep ewisehi qsuhsennis xuamf sevjis iesp $5 nusi qis juas vjep e qisdipvehi ug vji catopitt.
 
tactdsocif vu vjot vjsief. Tqiif +++
 
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