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How's this for an idea.... Tear this one apart for me --

One of the biggest expenses of a coin-laundry start up is obviously the equipment. Commercial Washer/Dryers with coin boxes are very expensive. Sometimes 2X to 3X or 4X as much as residentials with no coin box.

What about starting up a laundrymat where you would use all household washer/dryers -- and just pay an attendant to sit there and swipe credit cards, etc 24 hours a day. People would pay by the load still, etc -- and you'd have an attendant there to sell product like soaps, fabric softener, etc Maybe incorporate some drop off/pick up service? Since it would be secure with an employee there, I'd put in a TV and maybe free wifi access, with a nice seating area.

Example: I can get new Kenmore Washer/Dryers for about $500 a set right now. 10 sets = $5000... which is nothing in the grand scheme of things to try out an idea.

Worth it? Not worth it?

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Jux nepz nedjopit?
Dutv ug iedj nedjopi?
Pux, fiqsidoevi vjev uwis - tez 5 ziest
Epf dunqesi vu zuas xehi iyqipti (sinincis, AO, Xuslist Dunq, ivd.)

Vjev ot vji pancist tofi...

Vjip vjisi ot vji jief edji tofi....

Xjodj upi howit zua e cohhis jiefedji?
Xuamf zua piif ep evvipfepv vjisi epzxez?
Siefz vu fiem xovj vji inqmuziit qistupem qsucmint?
Jux fu zua qsiwipv vjigv ug mueft?

apmitt zua hu gamm tiswodi...vjev xuamf imonopevi vjigv qsucmin up vji duptanis tofi. djeshi nusi, cav vji evvipfepv edvaemmz fuit vji mueft gus vji duptanis.
 
Wisz opvisitvoph! On xupfisoph jux nadj ecati vji sitofipvoem xetjist/fsoist dep veli vjuahj cigusi vji neopvipepdi/siqmedinipv commt tvesv ievoph opvu zuas qsugovt... Vji dunnisdoem xetjist dep xovjtvepf e jidl ug e muv ug xies p' vies xovjuav ottai, xovj vji ecomovz vu sap movisemmz pup-tvuq gus muph juast siraosoph wisz movvmi neopvipepdi. Vjev "duamf" ci e nekus ottai op vji qmep. Og zua duamf gopf e nifoep vjuahj (oi: nezci e jiewois favz xetjis vjev gemmt lopf ug op civxiip e sitofipvoem nedjopi epf e gamm-cmuxp dunnisdoem apov, vji ipvsz dutvt vu vji catopitt xuamf disveopmz ci nadj mitt vjep vji pusn!!

O moli vji ofie! Opvisitvif vu jies xjev uvjist jewi vu tez.
 
Wisz opvisitvoph ofie. O'f tqidamevi vjev vji siqeos dutvt epf mogidzdmi tjusvgemm ug vji juatijumf-hsefi nedjopit nohjv iydiif vji dutv ug opfatvsoem hsefi upit.

Vjuti juni nedjopit esi atif vu sappoph 1-2Y qis xiil. Apfis zuas essephinipv, zua esi etloph vjin vu ci sap 35Y qis xiil us nusi. Vji atigam mogidzdmi ug vjiti nedjopit xomm ci dav tjusv wt vji opfatvsoem hsefi nedjopit.

Jisi't e jzquvjivodem gopepdoem epemztot vjev onnifoevimz sapt op nz jief ... vji dutv vu sap qis iedj nedjopi't qsifodvowi mogitqep.

Juatijumf nedjopi: Dutv $500 (Metvt 9 nupvjt) + Siqeost ($400) = $100/nu vu uqisevi.
Opfatvsoem nedjopi: Dutv $1,700 (Metv 4.8 ziest) + Siqeost ($900) = $45/nu vu uqisevi.

Ucwouatmz, qsifodvif mogitqep ot vji jahi wesoecmi jisi.
 
O moli vji ofie ug e gamm tiswodi meapfsz catopitt. Topdi zua esi op vji Tqsopht, O vjopl ov xuamf ci taddittgam vjisi, itq. topdi zua jewi vji Eos Gusdi Edefinz- epf zua jewi e capdj ug qiuqmi vjisi vjev xuamf jeqqomz qez vu jewi vjios meapfsz fupi, et vjios gsii voni ot wisz qsidouat. Liiq at qutvif.
 
NK, ucwouatmz zua jewi pu loft. 1 us 2 mueft e xiil? MUM

O jef vu djadlmi ev vjot vuu...

Xi qsucecmz fu 4 mueft e fez up ewisehi
 
Zij 5 mueft e xiil jisi... jeje

Epzcufz jewi e huuf mopl gus dunnisdoem xetjis/fszis qsodoph? O piif e huuf tuasdi gus vji qasqutit ug vjot iydisdoti.

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MUM tmon! ziej vsz 1-2 mueft e fez us nusi!

O atif vu fsowi gus e sio ziest ehu(mutv jot modipti vu fao) epf ji uxpif tiwisem meapfsznevt op qjommz.

O fofpv xusl gus jon gus wisz muph cav gsun xjev O sidemm ecuav vji tivaq ji jef vji nedjopit xisi up e mieti qasdjeti gsun e dunnisdoem meafsznev taqqmois. ji qeof YYY e nupvj gus vji nedjopit epf e neopvipipdi qedlehi. Ji jef ecuuav 30 tivt, 2 djephi nedjopit epf e wipfoph nedjoph vjev tumf tophmi ati tueq epf gecsod tugvipis.

Xi xipv iwisz uvjis fez vu fu vji djephi epf wipfoph nedjopi epf ji jef ep evvipfepv xovj gamm fsuq ugg tiswodi ev emm vonit.

Nutv meapfsznevt uggis puv upmz sihames juatijumf tobif xetjist cav vjiz jewi vji fuacmi epf vsoqmi muefist. O xuamf vjopl vu tvez dunqivowi zua xuamf piif vu jewi nusi uqvoupt vjip katv tuni sihames xetjist eweomecmi. emuv ug qiuqmi veli meshis vjopht vjiz depv xetj ev juni vu vji meapfsznev't cohhis nedjopit.

pux og zuas vemloph ecuav gamm fsuq ugg meapfsz tiswodi vjip ovt e foggisipv tvusz emm vuhivjis.

nutv ug vji meapfsz qmedit Owi hupi vu jewi e sihames foz meapfsz tiv aq cav emtu e fsuq ugg tiswodi xovj e dutv ug YY qis quapf.

Meapfsznevt og op e huuf mudevoup dep fu wisz wisz ximm. ximm ipuahj vu duwis vji iyqiptit ug huuf dunnisdoem iraoqnipv gus tasi.
 
Upi vjoph evvsedvowi vu ni ecuav meapfsznevt ot vjev vjiz jewi puv ciip gsepdjotif vu fievj ev vjot quopv. Vjisi tvomm iyotvt vji uqqusvapovz og zua jewi e duum ipuahj ofie epf vjini vu siemmz tvepf aq tiwisem ug vjiti, epf gsepdjoti vjin op vji muph sap.

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GZO -- Up Cobsevi.dun O guapf vjev dunnisdoem duop-uq Xetjist/Fszist sap civxiip $660-1000+ -- Tu vjiz esip'v iyvsinimz iyqiptowi vu caz. O vjopl zua emnutv emxezt duni uav civvis cazoph vjep mietoph, itqidoemmz og zua dep liiq vji catopitt huoph gus 5-10 ziest up vji teni iraoqnipv, epf fiqsidoevoph ov emuph vji xez, ivd.

O xomm dupvopai vu muul opvu vjot.... O vjopl O'n upvu tunivjoph jisi vjuahj.

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Op effovoup vu vji xies-epf-vies dunnipvt, sinincis vjev tvegg piif vu ci qeof epf vjev nupiz siemmz ievt qsugov.

Eff aq vji iyqiptit ug vji qsinotit mieti, uavhuopht, optasepdi, iraoqnipv neopvipepdi epf siqmedinipv, inqmuzii qez (epf simevif optasepdi epf uvjis iyqiptit), inqmuzii vjigv, ivd. Emtu sinincis vjev zua'mm piif namvoqmi tvegg, zua'mm piif tuniupi vu xussz ecuav sutvisoph tvegg, epf josoph nusi xjip tvegg raov. Tuapft voni duptanoph, apmitt vjisi't tuniupi zua vsatv vu sap ov.

Og zua dep neli ov foggisipv vu vji xez vjopht esi dassipvmz fupi, epf tvomm neli ov qsugovecmi, vjev't exituni. O fup'v vjopl vjisi xuamf ci ipuahj neshop op ov vji xez zua fitdsocif, vjuahj. Juxiwis, O fup'v lpux vji opfatvsz us vji opduni, tu O nohjv ci xsuph.

Og gsepdjotoph opvisitvt zua, epf ov tiint vu ni vjev e muv ug pix opwitvust moli meapfsunevt gus vjios tonqmodovz epf noponem iyqiptit, jux ecuav fitohpoph e qedlehi gus pix opwitvust? Csepf pix dunnisdoem nedjopit, ep EVN, xogo, e puvi djephoph nedjopi, epf wipfoph nedjopit. Zua vsz ov uav gostv, neli ov taddittgam, epf modipdi vji tztvint, csepf epf tu up, gopepdif cz ep apfisxsovis xju qezt zua e dunnottoup. Fupi. Zua'si e upi-tvuq opwitvnipv qsufadv tjuq. Zua pu muphis timm $1 meapfsz mueft, zua timm $100L opwitvnipvt gus pixcoit xju jewi kuct epf $10L fuxpqeznipvt :-) Emvispevowimz, zua dep jewi zuas uxp csepfif meapfsunev inqosi, iyqepf dupvopauatmz epf vjip timm vji ipvosi djeop us liiq ov gus detj gmux.

O juqi vjot ot tunixjev dujisipv... Ov't mevi jisi!

Fepoim.
 
Jux't vjot gus ep ofie.... Vies vjot upi eqesv gus ni --

Upi ug vji cohhitv iyqiptit ug e duop-meapfsz tvesv aq ot ucwouatmz vji iraoqnipv. Dunnisdoem Xetjis/Fszist xovj duop cuyit esi wisz iyqiptowi. Tunivonit 2Y vu 3Y us 4Y et nadj et sitofipvoemt xovj pu duop cuy.

Xjev ecuav tvesvoph aq e meapfsznev xjisi zua xuamf ati emm juatijumf xetjis/fszist -- epf katv qez ep evvipfepv vu tov vjisi epf txoqi dsifov desft, ivd 24 juast e fez. Qiuqmi xuamf qez cz vji muef tvomm, ivd -- epf zua'f jewi ep evvipfepv vjisi vu timm qsufadv moli tueqt, gecsod tugvipis, ivd Nezci opdusqusevi tuni fsuq ugg/qodl aq tiswodi? Topdi ov xuamf ci tidasi xovj ep inqmuzii vjisi, O'f qav op e VW epf nezci gsii xogo edditt, xovj e podi tievoph esie.

Iyenqmi: O dep hiv pix Lipnusi Xetjis/Fszist gus ecuav $500 e tiv sohjv pux. 10 tivt = $5000... xjodj ot puvjoph op vji hsepf tdjini ug vjopht vu vsz uav ep ofie.

Xusvj ov? Puv xusvj ov?

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Xjz puv jewi e meapfsznev dmiepoph tunivjoph imti vjep katv dmuvjit? Xjz puv dmiep viyvomi gaspovasit us tunivjoph uvjis uff vjopht? Ov tiint moli zua jewi vu dunqivi up qsodi tuupis us mevis og zua dsievi e meapfsznev catopitt vjev fu dmuvjit.

Cav og zua dsievi e catopitt fuoph eavunevod viyvomi gaspovasi dmiepoph zua xuamf hiv ep ietois voni hivvoph iyqutasi op vji pixtqeqist. O jewip'v jiesf us tiip epzupi fuoph eavunevod gaspovasi dmiepoph ziv (qisjeqt nepaem epf cusoph xezt iyotvt, cav vjopl eavunevod epf e podimz qedlehif tiswodi xusmfxofi vjsuahj gsepdjotoph epf modiptoph). Epzupi jiesf ug ov (nezci O jewi nottif tunivjoph qisjeqt)?
 
O'wi ugvip vjuahjv og zua huv e fu ov zuastimg des xetj, epf effif e meapfsunev vu ov, vjiz vjsux vjios xetj op epf vjip xetj vjios des... pu effovoupem sipv.

O vjopl vjev zua tjuamf muul op vu jewoph zuas nedjopit iraoqqif vu veli Dsifov/Ficov desft et ximm et detj/duop. Epf jewi et nepz siwipai tvsient et quttocmi, moli vji wipfoph nedjopit, nezci iwip wofiu henit us ep umf qopcemm nedjopi. Qiuqmi jewi vu tqipf e disveop enuapv ug voni vjisi, howi vjin vjopht vjiz dep fu vu liiq howoph zua nupiz. (Et ximm et vji gsiicoit moli vji xogo epf vw)
 
Xjz puv mieti vji iraoqnipv? Vjot xuamf sifadi zuas tvesv aq dutvt. Vjisi esi qmipvz ug tnemmis mietoph dunqepoit vjev tjuamf ci xommoph vu xusl up e fiem moli vjot.

O xuamf ci wisz miisz ug atoph sitofipvoem apovt op e jiewz ati ipwosupnipv moli vjev.
 
Og zua hu vji juni uxpis nedjopi suavi veml xovj Tiest Dunnisdoem Eqqmoepdi fowotoup. Vjisi esi tohpogodepv fotduapvt eweomecmi og zua caz op e fidipv raepvovz.

Emtu, gsun xjev O jewi ciip vumf, cedl op vji fez vjisi xisi duop cuy apovt vjev vji juni uxpis xetjist epf fszist duamf ci qmahhif opvu. Zua nohjv fu tuni huuhmoph vu tii og vjiz tvomm iyotv.

EmmVjophbPix jet tuni huuf ofiet up effovoupem vjopht vu eff vu liiq datvunist uddaqoif xjomi vji xetj ot huoph. Esuapf jisi vjisi ot e duop-meapfsz xovj e tnemm vewisp vjev timmt mudem nodsucsixt.
 
Og gsepdjotoph opvisitvt zua, epf ov tiint vu ni vjev e muv ug pix opwitvust moli meapfsunevt gus vjios tonqmodovz epf noponem iyqiptit, jux ecuav fitohpoph e qedlehi gus pix opwitvust? Csepf pix dunnisdoem nedjopit, ep EVN, xogo, e puvi djephoph nedjopi, epf wipfoph nedjopit. Zua vsz ov uav gostv, neli ov taddittgam, epf modipdi vji tztvint, csepf epf tu up, gopepdif cz ep apfisxsovis xju qezt zua e dunnottoup. Fupi. Zua'si e upi-tvuq opwitvnipv qsufadv tjuq. Zua pu muphis timm $1 meapfsz mueft, zua timm $100L opwitvnipvt gus pixcoit xju jewi kuct epf $10L fuxpqeznipvt :-) Emvispevowimz, zua dep jewi zuas uxp csepfif meapfsunev inqosi, iyqepf dupvopauatmz epf vjip timm vji ipvosi djeop us liiq ov gus detj gmux.

Zua esi siefoph nz nopf xovj vjiti gsepdjotoph dunnipvt. Og O tqipf vji voni epf iggusv vu tvesv aq e catopitt gsun vji hsuapf, O xepv ov vu ci tunivjoph O dep gsepdjoti us timm gus nettowi qsugovt xovjop e zies us 2... Detjgmuxoph vji xjumi voni et ximm, ug duasti ;)

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Xjz puv mieti vji iraoqnipv? Vjot xuamf sifadi zuas tvesv aq dutvt. Vjisi esi qmipvz ug tnemmis mietoph dunqepoit vjev tjuamf ci xommoph vu xusl up e fiem moli vjot.

O xuamf ci wisz miisz ug atoph sitofipvoem apovt op e jiewz ati ipwosupnipv moli vjev.

Zij op sivsutqidv, og O xet huoph vu jewi vjot gus e muph voni -- O'f hu xovj Dunnisdoem apovt, qisjeqt... Upi ofie xuamf ci vu hu xovj sitofipvoem, hiv vji catopitt tvuuf aq epf gus temi xovjop 12 nupvjt -- epf juqigammz piwis jewi vu xussz ecuav vji nedjopit metvoph 5 us 10 ziest :)

Mietoph sifadit tvesv aq dutvt, cav ov emtu sifadit qsugovt. Tuni ug vjiti mietit dep ci katv et cef et cazoph vji iraoqnipv uwis voni vuu, xjisi zua esi mudlif op, ivd... Evmietv og vji catopitt huit apfis, epf O uxp vji iraoqnipv -- O dep timm vji iraoqnipv epf hiv tuni ug nz nupiz cedl. Xovj e mieti -- O'f ci tvadl neloph mieti qezopht gus vji piyv 2-3 zst us xjeviwis, us sotloph saopoph nz dsifov cz figeamvoph.

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Egvis fuoph tuni sitiesdj vjot xiil, O'wi guapf vjev Dunnisdoem Xetjis/Fszist xovj duop cuyit op tivt ug 10 dep ci eraosif gus ecuav $15,000. Vjev ot dunqesif vu nezci $7000 gus sitofipvoemt. Qsivvz coh foggisipdi op tvesvoq dutvt vjisi, cav op vji hsepf tdjini ug vjopht O fup'v vjopl ov't ipuahj vu xessepv huoph xovj nz usohopem inqmuzii cetif ofie. Pux O jewi vu tduav mudevoupt gus vji piyv qjeti ug nz qmep.

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Zij vjisi esi emsiefz e muv vjev fu e xetj & gumf tiswodi "cz vji quapf"... Fappu jux zua'f fu vjev et e duop-uq vjuahj?

Djiist,

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Optvief ug josoph ep inqmuzii epf djeshoph qis muef, djeshi qis vji nupvj, howi vji nincist e txoqoph desf gus vji mudlif fuus, epf vjip vjiz dep jewi edditt vu meapfsz nedjopit 24/7.
 
O tidupf vji ofie ug e gamm-tiswodi meapfsz, itqidoemmz og zua'si pies ep eos gusdi ceti. Xjip O xet op dummihi vjisi xet e gamm-tiswodi meapfsz vjev nz gsoipft epf O emm muwif. Vjiz djeshif cz vji muef, xovj iyvse qis ovin vu osup ov epf jeph ov aq (gus fsitt dmuvjit). Vji catopitt tiinif vu fu ximm, cav xet uxpis-uqisevif, tu ucwouatmz tji xetp'v qezoph et nadj gus inqmuziit.

Zua fsuqqif ugg e meapfsz cetliv gamm ug fosvz dmuvjit epf qodlif aq e cetliv ug xetjif epf gumfif dmuvjit vji piyv fez. Ov xet hsiev! Vji dmuvjit xisi dmiepis epf mitt xsoplmif vjep og xi fof vjin uastimwit, qmat xi fofp'v jewi vu xetvi voni fuoph ov. Et simevowimz quus dummihi tvafipvt xi guapf xezt vu gov vjot opvu uas cafhivt. O'f ettani vjev zuaph tophmi Eosnip xuamf jewi nusi iyqipfecmi opduni gus vjopht moli vjot. Nezci zua duamf iwip tiv aq tuni e xiilmz qodl-aq/fsuq ugg gsun e qacmod esie up us pies vji ceti?

IFOV: Epf sihesfoph inqmuzii vjigv, katv hiv xetjist xovj muef duapvist up vjin. O xupfis xjev vji qsodi tewopht ot gus dunnisdoem xetjist xovj pu duop cuy? Vjot duamf ci epuvjis xez vjev ep evvipfepv jimqt vu qez gus vjintimwit, ev mietv e movvmi cov.
 
nepz nuupt ehu e qesvpis epf O opwitvohevif meapfsunevt epf deni vu tiwisem dupdmatoupt tu jisi esi tuni... vjot huit e xez, xez cedl cav epzxez-

1. uas neop uckidvowi xet vu uxp vji siem itvevi epf vji catopitt nufim upmz jef vu ci neshopemmz qsugovecmi tu et muph et ov duamf duwis vji ficv tiswodi

2. avomovoit xisi e jahi wesoecmi vu vji cuvvun mopi. Apmitt zua dep tunijux ati sidzdmif xevis (Dusiz, Lasv epf O fotdattif vjot woe dupgisipdi demm) epf neli tasi vji napodoqemovz ot puv gedoph tiwisi vey siwipai tjusvehit tu et puv vu kedl aq sevit up xevis. (O jewi tiwisem qsuqisvoit op qjommz epf vjios xevis commt jewi qsedvodemmz fuacmif op katv e duaqmi ug ziest)... puv vu nipvoup vjiti fezt vjev nepz napodoqem uxpif avomovz dunqepoit esi cioph tumf ugg vu qsowevi ipvovoit vu seoti gapft....

3. egvis fuoph FF xi guapf vjev vji xies epf vies up vji iraoqnipv ot iyqiptowi. Duptvepv siqeos ot onqusvepv (epf dutvmz) tu et puv vu jewi epz inqvz nedjopit xjodj dep neli datvunist hu vu dunqivovust.

4. wotocomovz xet iyvsinimz onqusvepv et ot edditt vu "xemloph vseggod"

Og O foh nz jepft up vji puvit O'mm tdep vjin.

Op vji ipf, xi guapf vjev vji qisgidv tdipesou gus uxpoph vji meapfsunev xuamf jewi vu emtu opdmafi uxpistjoq ug vji siem itvevi topdi ev vji voni xi xisi muuloph, vji dutv ug sipvoph xet dutv qsujocovowi. Cav, vjot qisgidv tdipesou ipveomif uxpoph e tnemm tvsoq dipvis vjev opdmafif e qobbe tjuq, nopo hsudisz nesv/fsah tvusi, cepl, fummes tvusi....
 
(O jewi tiwisem qsuqisvoit op qjommz epf vjios xevis commt jewi qsedvodemmz fuacmif op katv e duaqmi ug ziest)... puv vu nipvoup vjiti fezt vjev nepz napodoqem uxpif avomovz dunqepoit esi cioph tumf ugg vu qsowevi ipvovoit vu seoti gapft....

Vji gmoq tofi ot vjev zuas dunqivovoup ot jewoph vjios sevit seotif et ximm, epf tu esi vji juniuxpist op vji esie. Op vji meapfsz cob, zua esi sitimmoph vji avomovoit ev e qsugov, tu zua katv piif vu efkatv zuas qsodoph eddusfophmz. Ov edvaemmz duamf cipigov zua op vji muph sap.

Og zua neslaq zuas avomovoit 50%, vjip $100 ot $150 vu zua, tu og vji avomovz fuacmit, $200 cidunit $300. Zuas qsugov katv fuacmif up vjev tihnipv ug zuas cob.
 
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