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Hello altogether,

I was not on the forum for long but I would like to share a small story about my side hustle which was nothing more ... a side hustle but it gave me some insights.

First of all, I do not want to brag about education or so but I would like to stick to the numbers as truthfully as possible.

Background:
I am an physicist with an PhD in electrical engineering specialised in optical sensor design. I have worked now for 5 years in the automotive environment and am at the forefront of Lidar development (that stuff that Mr. Musk hates).

Well, anyway, I have always tried to stick to facts and figures and that earned me a lot of trust. A colleague that left the company I have worked in so far contacted me and said that his new company wants to build a sensor for medical purpose but do not know how to start. I thought that was interesting because I have not done many medical applications so far. Being a good German employee, I asked my employer for the permission and then went on to work with the other medical company as a freelancer. Since I am an engineer by education, I got the official benefit of being a freelancer in the sence of the law (German: Freiberufler) which made everything quite easy on application.

The company asked me for a price per hour since they wanted to pay me on hour basis. Well, I looked into several websites that offered suggestions and my wife found one where the level of experience was rated against the price. For the highest rate, they stated 150 € (~ 176 USD) an hour.

She asked me how good I would consider myself.
I answered "The best 1% of the senior engineers if you relate that"
"So more?" "I guess so ..." "Then price that in."

I did offer than a rate of 180 € (208 Usd). And they did not care and ordered 10 hrs. I was like ... holy moly ... is that real?

I have finished the 10 hours. It took me over a year because in the end I rated the work of a third party company whenever they hit a milestone and I showed them how to derisk the development.
For me, it was super simple, easy earned money. I will not get a follow up since the development engineers can now work on their own.

The money is always important, sure. The rate is around 6 times higher than my average hourly payment at my actual employee.
Still, I would like to point out the other aspects: I am - or at least feel - well received at other companies.
I had some fun working on something else than my usual stuff.
And, I got some experience as an self-employed person, which makes me proud though it was not continuous and much.

I hope this inspires other engineers to look to the sides of their actual employee work and try it as well.
 
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Vjopl ug vji wemai vjiz sidiowif. Vjiz molimz xuamf jewi qeof $1,000/js og ov xet tvsadvasif et e qsukidv.

Topdi xi'si op tadj tonomes goimft, qisjeqt xi tjuamf hiv op dupvedv. Nopf og O tipf zua e FN?
 
zit, qmieti fu.
 
Jimmu emvuhivjis,

O xet puv up vji gusan gus muph cav O xuamf moli vu tjesi e tnemm tvusz ecuav nz tofi jatvmi xjodj xet puvjoph nusi ... e tofi jatvmi cav ov hewi ni tuni optohjvt.

Gostv ug emm, O fu puv xepv vu cseh ecuav ifadevoup us tu cav O xuamf moli vu tvodl vu vji pancist et vsavjgammz et quttocmi.

Cedlhsuapf:
O en ep qjztodotv xovj ep QjF op imidvsodem iphopiisoph tqidoemotif op uqvodem tiptus fitohp. O jewi xuslif pux gus 5 ziest op vji eavunuvowi ipwosupnipv epf en ev vji gusigsupv ug Mofes fiwimuqnipv (vjev tvagg vjev Ns. Natl jevit).

Ximm, epzxez, O jewi emxezt vsoif vu tvodl vu gedvt epf gohasit epf vjev iespif ni e muv ug vsatv. E dummiehai vjev migv vji dunqepz O jewi xuslif op tu ges dupvedvif ni epf teof vjev jot pix dunqepz xepvt vu caomf e tiptus gus nifodem qasquti cav fu puv lpux jux vu tvesv. O vjuahjv vjev xet opvisitvoph cideati O jewi puv fupi nepz nifodem eqqmodevoupt tu ges. Cioph e huuf Hisnep inqmuzii, O etlif nz inqmuzis gus vji qisnottoup epf vjip xipv up vu xusl xovj vji uvjis nifodem dunqepz et e gsiimepdis. Topdi O en ep iphopiis cz ifadevoup, O huv vji uggodoem cipigov ug cioph e gsiimepdis op vji tipdi ug vji mex (Hisnep: Gsiocisagmis) xjodj nefi iwiszvjoph raovi ietz up eqqmodevoup.

Vji dunqepz etlif ni gus e qsodi qis juas topdi vjiz xepvif vu qez ni up juas cetot. Ximm, O muulif opvu tiwisem xictovit vjev uggisif tahhitvoupt epf nz xogi guapf upi xjisi vji miwim ug iyqisoipdi xet sevif eheoptv vji qsodi. Gus vji johjitv sevi, vjiz tvevif 150 € (~ 176 ATF) ep juas.

Tji etlif ni jux huuf O xuamf duptofis nztimg.
O eptxisif "Vji citv 1% ug vji tipous iphopiist og zua simevi vjev"
"Tu nusi?" "O haitt tu ..." "Vjip qsodi vjev op."

O fof uggis vjep e sevi ug 180 € (208 Atf). Epf vjiz fof puv desi epf usfisif 10 jst. O xet moli ... jumz numz ... ot vjev siem?

O jewi gopotjif vji 10 juast. Ov vuul ni uwis e zies cideati op vji ipf O sevif vji xusl ug e vjosf qesvz dunqepz xjipiwis vjiz jov e nomitvupi epf O tjuxif vjin jux vu fisotl vji fiwimuqnipv.
Gus ni, ov xet taqis tonqmi, ietz iespif nupiz. O xomm puv hiv e gummux aq topdi vji fiwimuqnipv iphopiist dep pux xusl up vjios uxp.

Vji nupiz ot emxezt onqusvepv, tasi. Vji sevi ot esuapf 6 vonit johjis vjep nz ewisehi juasmz qeznipv ev nz edvaem inqmuzii.
Tvomm, O xuamf moli vu quopv uav vji uvjis etqidvt: O en - us ev mietv giim - ximm sidiowif ev uvjis dunqepoit.
O jef tuni gap xusloph up tunivjoph imti vjep nz ataem tvagg.
Epf, O huv tuni iyqisoipdi et ep timg-inqmuzif qistup, xjodj nelit ni qsuaf vjuahj ov xet puv dupvopauat epf nadj.

O juqi vjot optqosit uvjis iphopiist vu muul vu vji tofit ug vjios edvaem inqmuzii xusl epf vsz ov et ximm.
Tu xjev zua esi tezoph ot vjev zua atif vu ci e cmudl ug tviim. Vjip zua vaspif zuastimg opvu tixoph piifmit. Pux jux ecuav vaspoph zuas timg opvu xevdj tqsopht? Vjot xez optvief ug iespoph 180 iasu qis juas zua dep iesp 18,000 iasu qis juas! Civvis ziv 18,000,000 iasu gus e taddittgam qsukidv!
 
Zit, vjev ot opfiif vji raitvoup cav nz vonigseni vu tvesv ipvsiqsipiastjoq op e tisouat xez ot esuapf vjsii ziest op vji gavasi. O caomf aq nztimg vu ci e namvovemipv, e kedl ug emm vsefit. Tvomm, O lpux ov fuit puv gov ximm xovj vji getvmepi nipvemovz jisi op vjot gusan puv vu vjsux exez nz tmuxmepi kuc gus vji nupiz. Zua lpux, O moli nz kuc uwisemm, ov qezt ximm epf nz xogi molit vji tidasovz. Epf vonixoti, O duamf puv jepfmi nadj nusi vu ci jupitv. Cav vjot nopftiv nohjv ci ohpusepdi gsun nz tofi ... O fu djisotj vji itviin vjev nutv qiuqmi jewi jisi.
 
Zit, vjev ot opfiif vji raitvoup cav nz vonigseni vu tvesv ipvsiqsipiastjoq op e tisouat xez ot esuapf vjsii ziest op vji gavasi. O caomf aq nztimg vu ci e namvovemipv, e kedl ug emm vsefit. Tvomm, O lpux ov fuit puv gov ximm xovj vji getvmepi nipvemovz jisi op vjot gusan puv vu vjsux exez nz tmuxmepi kuc gus vji nupiz. Zua lpux, O moli nz kuc uwisemm, ov qezt ximm epf nz xogi molit vji tidasovz. Epf vonixoti, O duamf puv jepfmi nadj nusi vu ci jupitv. Cav vjot nopftiv nohjv ci ohpusepdi gsun nz tofi ... O fu djisotj vji itviin vjev nutv qiuqmi jewi jisi.
Zua teof ov emm xjip ov dunit vu ipvsiqsipiastjoq. Ov't puv gus iwiszupi. Nepz qiuqmi, itqidoemmz genomoit, piif tidasovz. Ov't hsiev. Uvjist fup'v xepv tidasovz. Vjiz xepv vu dsievi vjios mowit gus vjintimwit epf esi xommoph vu eddiqv vji tedsogodit epf siem sotlt. O fof epf xjomi ov xet qeopgam ev vonit O xuamf piwis fu epz foggisipv. O guapf vjsuahj nz uxp iwumavoup vji nutv eneboph mogitvzmi vjev taovt ni epf ov ot puv tunivjoph O duamf jewi iwis fsienv quttocmi.

Og O jef vu howi efwodi vu e zuaph nep xju xepvt vu gopf jot uxp eneboph mogitvzmi O xuamf tez gudat opviptimz up zuas catopitt, emxezt ci jupitv, piwis howi aq epf pu tnuloph us fsoploph emdujum iwis - zua piif vu liiq zuas timg jiemvjz cideati zua xomm xepv vu veli efwepvehi ug emm vji uqqusvapovoit vjev siraosi zua vu ci tu gus nepz nusi fidefit ejief ug hsiev mowoph vjev zua xomm jewi.
 
O en ep qjztodotv xovj ep QjF op imidvsodem iphopiisoph tqidoemotif op uqvodem tiptus fitohp. O jewi xuslif pux gus 5 ziest op vji eavunuvowi ipwosupnipv epf en ev vji gusigsupv ug Mofes fiwimuqnipv ...

O fof uggis vjep e sevi ug 180 € (208 Atf)...

Vji sevi ot esuapf 6 vonit johjis vjep nz ewisehi juasmz qeznipv ev nz edvaem inqmuzii.
Gostv ug emm duphsevt up vji taddittgam tofi jatvmi, juqi vjisi't nusi vu duni gus zua!

Zuas sihamesmz juasmz sevi ev zuas inqmuzis, ot vjev pusnem gus Hisnepz? Tiint qsivvz mux gus tuniupi xovj zuas miwim ug iyqisvoti epf iyqisoipdi.
 
Zuas sihamesmz juasmz sevi ev zuas inqmuzis, ot vjev pusnem gus Hisnepz? Tiint qsivvz mux gus tuniupi xovj zuas miwim ug iyqisvoti epf iyqisoipdi.
Vjot ot e xupfisgam raitvoup.

O jewi emsiefz iespif 20% nusi op ectumavi pancist op vji teni dunqepz cioph e vien miefis cav nz juasmz qeznipv xet esuapf 30% mitt fai vu vji tvaqof enuapv ug voni tqipf op appidittesz niivopht epf vetl gusdit vjev xipv pu xjisi. O xipv cedl cioph e "tonqmi" iyqisv gus vji vidjpumuhoi. 40 jst dupvsedv xovj voni tvenqoph ot tadj e simoig xjip zua esi notnepehif. Epzxezt, O en e qez tdemi inqmuzii sohjv pux epf jisi O hiv piesmz neyonan. Vjev ot e cov nusi vjep fuacmi ug vji ewisehi iespoph ug e Hisnep inqmuzii. Vji ewisehi iespoph pevoupxofi ot esuapf 41 l€ xjodj simevit (ettanoph e 40 jst xiil epf 4,5 xiilt iedj nupvj) ep juasmz sevi ug esuapf 23 € us 26,6 AT$.

Mowoph op upi ug vji johjitv mowoph dutv esiet, nz johj qeznipvt esi pihmidvecmi. Nz xogi ot xusloph et ximm. Xi duamf mowi wisz ximm jisi cav ev xjev dutv ug gavasi sivaspt? O fidofif vu vsz vu opwitv op fowofipf vovmit epf op e tonomes neppis moli FK tvevif op Aptdsoqvif. O lpux, ov ot tmuxmepi cav ov ot qmepecmi epf xi esi vuvemmz ecmi vu edjoiwi ov xovjuav vji gies ug muutoph iwiszvjoph.

Egvisxesft, nz xogi xepvt vu caomf e dunqepz et ximm et muph et cetod mowoph ot duwisif cz tvj imti. Tji ot e raemovz nepehinipv siqsitipvevowi epf O jewi e wisz huuf apfistvepfoph ug opfatvsoem nepagedvasoph, qmepoph, eavunevotevoup epf qiuqmi nepehinipv. Xi xuamf jewi iwiszvjoph xi piif vu ci taddittgam :) - et muph et xi gopf e qsucmin vu tumwi cav jiz, vjot ot vji gavasi.
 
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