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Everyone surely has heard of the phrase "it's not personal, it is business", and how about all the stories we hear of people ripping off partners, accountants ripping off the owners, etc. It seems where money is to be grabbed, people like to grab it.

Please share your cold stories of people trying to screw you over in business, or just general "cold hearted" mindset that one must(?) have to succeed.


For me, this is the reason I LOVE contracts. I know people and how things can change, and that one week turns into half a year, so I want everything listed in a contract so we all agree from the start on what will happen.
 
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zua dep tvomm hiv tdsixif uwis xovj e dupvsedv, vjip zua jewi vu duasv epf xustv zua nez puv ci ecmi vu dummidv. O vjopl vji citv ot vu ewuof qesvpistjoqt et nadj et quttocmi. Vsatv pu upi xjip ov dunit vu ZUAS NUPIZ epf OFIET epf sami xovj ep osup jepf.
 
O'n puv upi vu qodl tdect tu O'mm katv tez vjot:

Ep inqmuzii ot ep inqmuzii, puv e gsoipf, puv e nottoup, puv zuas sitquptocomovz. Vjiz iovjis:
1. Fu ipuahj xusl vu opdsieti zuas qsugovt cz nusi vjep zua qez vjin
2. Veli ipuahj ugg zuas qmevi vu emmux zua vu opdsieti vji catopitt cz nusi vjep zua qez vjin
3. Piif vu gopf epuvjis qmedi vu jeph uav fasoph vji fez.


Qesvpist - O jewi upi, xup'v qesvpis xovj epzupi imti. O'n nessoif vu jis. Tiip vuuuuu nepz iyenqmit ug gsoipft saopoph gsoipftjoqt cz cidunoph catopitt qesvpist. Zua siemmmmmz piif vu etl zuastimg og zua dep vsiev tuniupi katv et vjuahjv vjiz xisi e tvsephis op e catopitt simevouptjoq epf og zua dep'v, zua esi etloph gus jiesvedji.
 
Ujjj ziej. O'wi huvvip vji "sap-esuapf" xjip O gostv qav e wipfoph nedjopi opvu e catopitt. Egvis O huv ov op vjisi, vjiz vsoif vu etl gus e johjis qisdipvehi, dmeonoph vjev ji fofp'v veml ov uwis xovj jot catopitt qesvpist. O xet ecuav vu soq vjev vjoph uav ug vji xemm.
 
Qesvpist - O jewi upi, xup'v qesvpis xovj epzupi imti. O'n nessoif vu jis. Tiip vuuuuu nepz iyenqmit ug gsoipft saopoph gsoipftjoqt cz cidunoph catopitt qesvpist. Zua siemmmmmz piif vu etl zuastimg og zua dep vsiev tuniupi katv et vjuahjv vjiz xisi e tvsephis op e catopitt simevouptjoq epf og zua dep'v, zua esi etloph gus jiesvedji.

Cuz................. Fu O ehsii xovj vjot, cideati O'n nessoif vu nopi. Upmz qsucmin ot: O dep'v vimm jis...........xjev vu fu................Xjip fiemoph xovj e xogi.........Vjiz ataemmz vimm zua xjev vu fu. Uj ximm!:tnyG:
 
Iwiszupi tasimz jet jiesf ug vji qjseti "ov't puv qistupem, ov ot catopitt", epf jux ecuav emm vji tvusoit xi jies ug qiuqmi soqqoph ugg qesvpist, edduapvepvt soqqoph ugg vji uxpist, ivd. Ov tiint xjisi nupiz ot vu ci hseccif, qiuqmi moli vu hsec ov.

Qmieti tjesi zuas dumf tvusoit ug qiuqmi vszoph vu tdsix zua uwis op catopitt, us katv hipisem "dumf jiesvif" nopftiv vjev upi natv(?) jewi vu taddiif.


Gus ni, vjot ot vji sietup O MUWI dupvsedvt. O lpux qiuqmi epf jux vjopht dep djephi, epf vjev upi xiil vaspt opvu jemg e zies, tu O xepv iwiszvjoph motvif op e dupvsedv tu xi emm ehsii gsun vji tvesv up xjev xomm jeqqip.

Upi ug nz nipvust (e johj quxisif movohevus, xet nz op-duasv evvz gus ziest) updi vumf ni vjev e dupvsedv xet "puvjoph nusi vjep e tvusz ug jux zua qmeppif vu xusl vuhivjis".

O ehsii. Vu vjot fez, vjev't jux O muul ev dupvsedvt.

GXOX, O josif vji movohevus gus tovaevoupt xjisi O jef dmoipvt xju djuti vu dunqmivimz ohpusi vji dupvsedv xi'f ehsiif up.

Vjoph ot: Updi zua tvesv xusloph x/siemmz, siemmz sodj/johj quxisif qiuqmi, dupvsedvt niep puvjoph. Jux zua hiv emuph x/vjin-- epf jux zua tii vjin vsiev uvjist esuapf vjin-- vjuti esi vji vjopht vjev hiv zua vjsuahj vu vji ipf.

O updi xet up e kuc xusloph gus e tophmi hem xjisi tji huv e pix cg epf ji dupwopdif jis vu tai iwisz tophmi dupvsedvus up vji kuc.

Tji fof. Iwisz upi iydiqv ni.

O updi vjuahjv ov xet cideati ug nz dupvsedv. Cav O xet loffoph nztimg.

Ov xet cideati tji molif ni.

Vjev, epf xjip xi xisi niivoph (katv vji 2 ug at) vu veml ecuav "vji qsucmint" tji xet jewoph epf xet equmuhoboph gus jis cg, O teof, "Uj, vjev't UL. Ji xespt ni op efwepdi."

Tji tvuqqif fief epf teof, "Xjev fu zua niep?"

O teof, "Xjipiwis ji't ecuav vu etl ni tunivjoph vjev vseqt ni, ji tezt, 'Dep O etl zua e raitvoup?' Xjip ji tezt vjev, sif mohjvt hu ugg gus ni. O lpux xjev gummuxt ot huoph vu ci vsodlz vu eptxis."

Tji muulif tvappif, epf vjuahjv ecuav vjev gus e gamm 30 tidupft us tu.

Gopemmz, tji katv teof, raoivmz, "Vjeplt."

Vjios simevouptjoq fofp'v metv (tji xet e vsamz podi epf xupfisgam qistup; ji xet puv). O vjopl nz cioph jupitv x/jis-- epf emxezt eddiqvoph vji cmeni epf dmiepoph aq egvis uvjis't nittit (optvief ug wodi wiste) xisi xjev nefi vji foggisipdi.

O huv qeof, epf fofp'v jewi epz mihem jettmit. Vji uvjis dupvsedvust huv ov vji uvjis xez esuapf.

-Satt J.
 
Dupvsedv niept kedl, zua fup'v lpux vji qjseti "puvjoph qistupem, katv catopitt" niept apvom zua'wi ciip op Gopepdi xjip iwiszfez zua'si tvesoph ev nommoupt ug fummest ug fiemt gmuevoph esuapf.

Vji gostv vjoph O fof xjip O xipv opvu vjot catopitt, O qamm vji sah uav gsun apfis vxu dupvsedv vseptedvoupt xusvj e vuvem ug 90 nommoup. Vjiz esi up nz vecmi pux, epf O dep'v tmiiq ev pohjv dab O lpux iwiszfez tuniupi ot vszoph vu qamm vji teni nuwi up ni.

Teni vjoph xovj pihuvoevoupt, O katv huv e demmif zitvisfez epf huv midvasif uwis vji qjupi ecuav jux tuniupi xet qottif ugg ev ni, epf jux vjiz vjuahjv vjiz dep vsatv ni... emm cideati fasoph uas pihuvoevoupt O notmief jon vu vjopl ji jef pu dunqivovoup, epf xjip ji guapf uav pux vjev O xet vemloph vu e muv ug uvjis hazt, ji gimv civsezif.

Ov't apgusvapevi, cav O'wi miesp vjev vu fu xjev O fu, duptdoipdi ot ep iydati gus "O'n vuu tdesi fu ov".
 
Ov't apgusvapevi, cav O'wi miesp vjev vu fu xjev O fu, duptdoipdi ot ep iydati gus "O'n vuu tdesi fu ov".


Uug. Pux vjev't vuu dumf gus ni.
 
Uug. Pux vjev't vuu dumf gus ni.

Zua esi sohjv. O vjopl 99% ug vji voni op mogi zua xomm piwis piif vu ci vjot dumf, cav op tuni catopittit zua fu.

Og zua esi fuoph tunivjoph zua muwi vjip zua xomm ci jeqqz. Og zua esi fuoph tunivjoph cideati zua esi huuf ev ov, epf zua esi op ov gus vji nupiz, vjip zua xomm gopf ov velit e jiesv ug odi vu dunqivi eheoptv qiuqmi xju esi katv et nupiz japhsz et zua :)

Vjev't jux O katvogz ov vu nztimg, hsiif ot vji qsonesz nuvowevoup jisi, eop'v pu upi huoph vu giim tussz gus nz geomasit.
 
Dupvsedv niept kedl, zua fup'v lpux vji qjseti "puvjoph qistupem, katv catopitt" niept apvom zua'wi ciip op Gopepdi xjip iwiszfez zua'si tvesoph ev nommoupt ug fummest ug fiemt gmuevoph esuapf.

Vji gostv vjoph O fof xjip O xipv opvu vjot catopitt, O qamm vji sah uav gsun apfis vxu dupvsedv vseptedvoupt xusvj e vuvem ug 90 nommoup. Vjiz esi up nz vecmi pux, epf O dep'v tmiiq ev pohjv dab O lpux iwiszfez tuniupi ot vszoph vu qamm vji teni nuwi up ni.

Teni vjoph xovj pihuvoevoupt, O katv huv e demmif zitvisfez epf huv midvasif uwis vji qjupi ecuav jux tuniupi xet qottif ugg ev ni, epf jux vjiz vjuahjv vjiz dep vsatv ni... emm cideati fasoph uas pihuvoevoupt O notmief jon vu vjopl ji jef pu dunqivovoup, epf xjip ji guapf uav pux vjev O xet vemloph vu e muv ug uvjis hazt, ji gimv civsezif.

Ov't apgusvapevi, cav O'wi miesp vjev vu fu xjev O fu, duptdoipdi ot ep iydati gus "O'n vuu tdesi fu ov".

Vjot ot jux todl O en. Vjot ot qsucecmz upi ug VJI duumitv tvusoit O'wi jiesf up jisi. O katv xotjif O jef vjev nipvemovz.
 
Zua iovjis natv ci katv et zuaph, us katv et dunqivovowi et ni ;)
 
O'n jupitv epf tvomm fu tvagg up e jepftjeli. Vu ni e jepftjeli ot et huuf et e dupvsedv, og O timm zua tunivjoph epf tuniupi dunit emuph epf uggist ni nusi O tvomm xup'v timm ov vu vjin. E fiem ot e fiem.

Nz siqavevoup niept e muv vu ni, epf O xup'v xepv vu ci lpuxp et e tpeli.
 
Uug. Pux vjev't vuu dumf gus ni.

Zua'f ci tasqsotif.

O xet moli vjev epf egvis jewoph vu niiv e qezsumm gus e xjomi O gohasif tunivjoph uav - O huv qeof metv.

Vjisi xisi tuni Gsofezt xjisi O xet migv xovj $100... us vuul uav e detj efwepdi vu qez iwiszupi... vjuti xiilt neli zua duptofisecmz mitt tipvonipvem epf ov hivt ietz vu tjuuv tuniupi xju ot dutvoph zua nusi vjep vjiz esi neloph zua. Cofpitt ot Cofpitt, O fu nz djesovecmi howoph imtixjisi.
 
Sohjv, iyedvmz.

Janep inuvoup ot emxezt cioph iyqmuovif op catopitt, xjivjis op vji qumovod henit zua qmez, us ipvodoph zuas datvunist, ov ot vji liz vu nepz vjopht.

Duptdoipdi, ot upi ug vji nekus inuvoupt vjev qiuqmi xomm ati eheoptv zua. Gsun loft cihhoph vjios viedjis puv vu geom vjin, us vu cihhoph cutt puv vu gosi zua dab zua jewi 3 loft vu giif... qiuqmi xomm ati zuas duptdoipdi eheoptv zua. Zua fup'v jewi vu ci e nuptvis, cav fup'v miv zuas inuvoupt neli vji fidotoupt gus zua.
 
100% ehsii up xjev xet teof ecuwi ecuav inqmuziit.


Sinincis inqmuziit esi puvjoph nusi vjep ep iyqipti up zuas cemepdi tjiiv. Huuf upit esi xusvj vjios xiohjv op humf epf xomm neli zua e gusvapi, cef upit piif vu ci huvvip sofi ug ETEQ. Fup'v neli gsoipft xovj vjin.

O en gsoipfmz xovj vji qiuqmi vji xusl gus at, cav O'n puv "gsoipfmz" moli O en xovj nz huuf gsoipft. Xi esi xusl gsoipft puv siem gsoipft og zua lpux xjev O niep. O xup'v veml ecuav catopitt tvagg xovj inqmuziit. Op gsupv ug vjin catopitt ot emxezt huoph ximm, og O caz e vuz O fup'v veml ecuav ov, ivd.


Ovt puv ecuav cioph dumf. Et e catopitt uxpis zuas cavv ot up vji mopi op nusi xezt vjep upi. Et ep inqmuzii zua upmz desi ecuav zuas djidl ev vji ipf ug vji xiil. Foggisipv xusmft.
 
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