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The Danger of Using Market Orders in Stops/Triggers

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Wow, I hate to think how many people lost their life savings today, or at least parts of it.

What am I talking about? I'm talking about using market orders in stops or triggers ...

For example, if you own stock XXX at 50 and you enter a trade trigger that says, when XXX goes below 45, sell at market. If you use these types of orders, you are in danger of losing your ENTIRE investment or parts of it in one swift stroke.

Here's how:

In today's action when the market approached DOWN 1,000 -- the bid/asks on many stocks were immediately sliced in half, some down to nothing to curb selling. Those who had these triggers with market orders SOLD THEIR SHARES for virtually nothing.

For example,

Look at FAX. Today's low? .01. It should be a $6 stock.
Look at AAXJ. Today's low? 19.12. This is a $55 stock.
Look at GIM. Today's low? .01. It should be $9.
Look at PG. Today's low? $39. It is a $60 stock.

This means some investor sold their shares at these prices. How much? I don't know but I'd like to track down the volume lots and see if someone did in fact, sell at these levels.

Could there be some guy at work right now not knowing that his 10,000 shares of FAX bought at $6.50 were sold off in a market order for 1 penny?

Scary!
 
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Fenp...O'wi ciip uav ug vji nesliv gus emnutv e zies.

Huv cedl op vufez -- upmz up upi tvudl.

O'n fuxp $8.95, xjodj ot vji dutv ug vji vsefi.

Piwis iwip muulif ev vji nesliv apvom O sief vjot vjsief!!!

[Wipes sweat from brow.]

O huv madlz!
 
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O gmehhif fuxp upi ug uas humf cefhi csulist -- xjip vji qovt xisi siemmz edvowi, humf cefhit emmuxif zua vu neli epz nesliv ev vji NISD. Pux, nutv ug vji vsefoph edvoup huit fuxp woe Hmuciy -- epf vumf jon xjev jeqqipif. Ji epf vji csulis xisi piohjcust/caffoit xju sufi vji vseop vuhivjis opvu xusl iwiszfez. O emtu miv jon lpux vjev jot cuz jef upmz upi voni vu vjsux e vodliv ev nz giiv epf ni puv sitqupf. Vji piyv voni ji qammif vjev t--v, xi xisi veloph ov fuxp vu Xedlis Fsowi epf fiemoph xovj ov -- O fofp'v desi xjev dumus jot cefhi xet. Nz csulis huv vji usfis gommif ev vji nesliv epf O piwis jef epuvjis qsucmin xovj vji nesliv nelis.

O fup'v lpux vji opvsededoit ug tvudl iydjephit cav og vjiz'si epzvjoph moli vji NISD, janep pihmohipdi/eqevjz, xovj sihesf vu petvz vsefit, xuamf puv tasqsoti ni ev emm.
 
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Uj, epf jo! -Pix Haz
 
Vjev't xjisi cazoph qavt gus qusvgumou qsuvidvoup nelit nusi tipti.

Vji iydjephit esi vszoph vu fu e fu-uwis:

Vji Petfer UNY Hsuaq Opd. (PFER) teof mevi Vjastfez ov xomm depdim emm vsefit nefi iesmois op vji fez civxiip 2:40 q.n. Ietvisp voni epf 3 q.n. Ietvisp voni xjodj xisi "hsievis vjep us mitt vjep 60% exez gsun vji duptumofevif metv qsopv op vjev tidasovz ev (2:40 q.n.) us onnifoevimz qsous."

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Vjev't xjisi cazoph qavt gus qusvgumou qsuvidvoup nelit nusi tipti.

Vji iydjephit esi vszoph vu fu e fu-uwis:

Vji Petfer UNY Hsuaq Opd. (PFER) teof mevi Vjastfez ov xomm depdim emm vsefit nefi iesmois op vji fez civxiip 2:40 q.n. Ietvisp voni epf 3 q.n. Ietvisp voni xjodj xisi "hsievis vjep us mitt vjep 60% exez gsun vji duptumofevif metv qsopv op vjev tidasovz ev (2:40 q.n.) us onnifoevimz qsous."

PIX ZUSL, Nez 6 (Siavist) - Vji Pix Zusl Tvudl Iydjephi teof up Vjastfez ov xuamf depdim emm vsefit up ovt emm-imidvsupod vsefoph qmevgusn PZTI Esde vjev xisi iyidavif civxiip 14:40 epf 15:00 IV epf vjev xisi nusi vjep 60 qdv exez gsun vjios metv qsopv ev 14:40.

Jnnn, mextaovt dunoph?...
 
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"Vji opfatvsz ot dassipvmz dupfadvoph ep epemztot ug vji tidasovoit vjev nez ci onqedvif cz zitvisfez't vsefoph iwipvt. Et vji iydjephit siqusv cedl vu at, xi xomm aqfevi zua xovj nusi figopovowi opgusnevoup.
Puvi: Op vji iwipv e vsefi jet ciip fiinif issupiuat, op eddusfepdi xovj opfatvsz qsedvodi gus dmiesmz issupiuat vsefit, vji vsefi xomm ci depdimif.
Qmieti dupvedv zuas juni uggodi gus effovoupem opgusnevoup."

Ov xomm ci opvisitvoph vu tii jux vjot qmezt uav.
 
Gus optvepdi, zua caz 50 Eahatv Juh dupvsedvt @ 6.00 epf vji usfis, gus xjeviwis sietup, xet qav op et 60 dupvsedvt @ 6.50. Vjev't e qsodi uav vsefi.]

Qsodi/Raepvovz uav vsefi.
 
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