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I read a similar article where Chinese rich declined to dine with Buffett and Gates (http://blogs.forbes.com/russellflan...whos-afraid-of-warren-buffett-and-bill-gates/). Who wouldn't want to dine with Buffett and Gates? To me it seems even though they have this new found wealth, they make being rich look bad for others.

Tom

FORTUNE -- It's already become known as the Billionaires Banquet in Beijing -- a gathering set for September 29th, hosted by two of the richest and most famous businessmen in the world: Warren Buffett and Bill Gates. Their guests are supposed to be 50 of their recently minted brethren from China, the richest of the newly rich in the world's fastest growing economy -- now the world's second largest, and someday destined to be the biggest.
You'd think the money and business obsessed Chinese elite would be beating down the door to attend such an event, to offer toasts and swap pearls of financial and business wisdom with the two American legends. And you'd probably be right, were it not for one thing: Gates and Buffet are coming to push their pet cause -- the so called Billionaires Pledge -- trying to persuade the rich, no matter where they may live, to donate half of their wealth to charitable causes.
In the United States, this is hardly the stuff of controversy. Charitable giving is a core American trait -- having two of the richest in the land out stumping for the wealthy to be ever more generous is a dog bites man story. To most Americans, they might as well be telling kids to do their homework and eat more vegetables.
Which is precisely what makes the reaction in China to the forthcoming banquet so interesting: the response so far has apparently been underwhelming. The first thing at least a few of the invited did was to call and quietly check to make sure they weren't going to have the arm put on them immediately. A "small number" of the more than 50 invited guests called to ask if they would be required to pledge a donation at the dinner, says Jing Zhang, press officer of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which is coordinating the Sept. 29 event. The answer to that was no -- all Gates and Buffett want to do is talk.
The conversation could be interesting. The accumulation of big time wealth is obviously a relatively new phenomenon in modern China. In the last thirty years, since Deng Xiaoping's economic opening, this country has created a staggering number of wealthy people: a survey called the Hurun report, which tries to keep tabs on just how many rich Chinese there are, pegs the number of millionaires at 875,000 -- a figure which, to put it politely, is a conservative estimate. (To put it impolitely, it's ludicrously low.)
But since the vast, vast majority of Chinese citizens still get by on $100 a month or less, the gap between rich and poor is large and getting larger -- and thus is an extremely sensitive issue for the government in Beijing. Add to that the fact that tax collection tends to be haphazard, and that corruption remains a major issue in China, and you can understand why so many rich Chinese work very hard NOT to stand out. The idea of holding a press conference, as Buffett did famously four years ago, to say you're going to give it all away only draws scrutiny of the kind that few Chinese want (`well, just how much do you have, anyway...?'). Merely showing up at the Buffett and Gates dinner will be sufficient to create a whose-richer- than-whom frenzy in China's blogosphere that not many of these newly rich tycoons can really want.
China's most prominent philanthropist
The most notable exception to this general rule so far has been Chen Guang-biao, a businessman from Jiangsu, one of China's most prosperous provinces. He started in the demolition business (modern China has done an awful lot of blowing up the old to make room for the new) and now runs a company called Jiangsu Huangpu Renewable Resources, which takes material from old, demolished buildings and recycles it into usable products. Chen announced on September 7 that he would leave his entire fortune -- estimated last year at around $660 million -- to charity.
"It's a noble and great move to return your fortune to the world when you are about to leave," he says, "and shameful the other way if you die with it. So I will donate all my property to philanthropy instead of just half of it when I'm leaving."
In an interview with Fortune, Chen said flatly that he doesn't think a sufficient number of wealthy Chinese "have the right values" to donate more to charity, but he believes over time China will be as philanthropic as any other country. Chen says he was motivated to go public with his pledge in part because he had heard that the response to the Buffett-Gates dinner had been lackluster. That, needless to say, is not going to win him a lot of friends among his peers in today's China.
It'll likely be awhile before Chen has to make good on his pledge. Like most of China's new rich, he's a young man -- just 42. But he is already China's most prominent philanthropist. He was out front responding -- in terms of both money and material -- to the devastating Sichuan earthquake in 2008, and again when a quake hit the rural province of Qinghai earlier this year.
And, to be fair, philanthropy in China is growing, albeit from a small base. According to the Hurun Report, China's fifty most generous contributors last year donated $1.2 billion, or an average of $25 million. That's chump change by U.S. standards, but it's eight times the average in 2004, when Hurun first began reporting on charitable donations in China.
But the attitude Chen and those following in his wake evince toward charity remains distinctly rare in today's China. The country's private entrepreneurs, many of whom started small, family businesses, believe wealth should be kept in the family and reinvested (something that's easy to do now given that China has talked for years about implementing an inheritance tax but still hasn't.)
More typical is the attitude of Zong Qing Hou, the CEO of beverage maker Wahaha, who topped Forbes' list of the richest people in China this year. He admitted he turned down an invitation to the Billionaire's Banquet because of a scheduling conflict. But, he told a Chinese newspaper, "from the bottom of my heart I don't appreciate this sort of thing. Real charity, he said, means creating real fortunes for society -- entrepreneurs using the money to invest and create even more job opportunities and more wealth for a society. That's what our society needs."
Too bad he can't be at the Billionaires Banquet. With him and Chen at the table, the two Americans wouldn't have to do much talking. They could sit back and listen to the argument -- one that now, thanks to them, is front and center among China's very rich.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/10/news/china_billionaire_philanthropy.fortune/index.htm
 
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Xjz up iesvj xuamf Djopiti catopitt qiuqmi xepv vu dunnov vu howi exez jemg vjios xiemvj sohjv pux?

Vjiz esi op e qutovoup xjisi vjiz jewi vji uqqusvapovz vu opdsieti vjios xiemvj nepz vonit uwis op dunoph ziest. Vjiz esi op djeshi ug jahi dusqusevoupt fsowoph Djope't opdsifocmi hsuxvj epf vjios nekusovz jumfopht op dunqepoit qavt vjin op vji fsowoph tiev dsievoph nommoupt ug kuct epf iwis opdsietoph qsutqisovz gus vji jahi quqamevoup. Comm Hevit epf Xessip Caggiv vjip kiv opvu vuxp etloph gus vjin vu howi exez jemg vjios jumfopht epf esi tunijux fotnezif ev vji medl ug opvisitv, O fup'v tii jux vjot dunit et e tasqsoti.

Ov cusfist up essuhepdi gus Hevit epf Caggiv (nip xju uxp catopittit vjev jewi siedjif e qmeviea quopv gus hsuxvj cav ziv duamf howi exez 90% ug vjios xiemvj epf tvomm ci op vji xusmft sodjitv fubip) vu qsittasi Djopiti catopittnip xju esi katv hivvoph tvesvif epf esi ev vji nunipv opdsietoph vjios duapvsznipt mowoph tvepfesft ev e seqof sevi vu howi exez vjios xiemvj.



ifov: Buph Roph Jua tannif aq xjev O teof op vji metv qesehseqj:
"gsun vji cuvvun ug nz jiesv O fup'v eqqsidoevi vjot tusv ug vjoph. Siem djesovz, ji teof, niept dsievoph siem gusvapit gus tudoivz -- ipvsiqsipiast atoph vji nupiz vu opwitv epf dsievi iwip nusi kuc uqqusvapovoit epf nusi xiemvj gus e tudoivz. Vjev't xjev uas tudoivz piift.""

Itqidoemmz op seqofmz hsuxoph Djope vjot duamfp'v ci nusi vsai. Enisode fofp'v hiv vu vji tvepfesf ug mowoph ov ipkuzt pux gsun djesovz ov huv sodj gsun catopitt qoupiist op vji uom epf seomsuef catopitt, mevis up vji eavunucomi catopitt epf nutv sidipvmz ov epf opvispiv catopitt dsievoph vidjpumuhoit vjev duppidvif tudoivz epf nefi foggodamv kuct ietz. Vjev't xjisi siem xiemvj dunit gsun, puv gsun jepfuavt ug epz tusv.
 
Xjz up iesvj xuamf Djopiti catopitt qiuqmi xepv vu dunnov vu howi exez jemg vjios xiemvj sohjv pux?

Vjiz esi op e qutovoup xjisi vjiz jewi vji uqqusvapovz vu opdsieti vjios xiemvj nepz vonit uwis op dunoph ziest. Vjiz esi op djeshi ug jahi dusqusevoupt fsowoph Djope't opdsifocmi hsuxvj epf vjios nekusovz jumfopht op dunqepoit qavt vjin op vji fsowoph tiev dsievoph nommoupt ug kuct epf iwis opdsietoph qsutqisovz gus vji jahi quqamevoup. Comm Hevit epf Xessip Caggiv vjip kiv opvu vuxp etloph gus vjin vu howi exez jemg vjios jumfopht epf esi tunijux fotnezif ev vji medl ug opvisitv, O fup'v tii jux vjot dunit et e tasqsoti.

Ov cusfist up essuhepdi gus Hevit epf Caggivv (nip xju uxp catopittit vjev jewi siedjif e qmeviea quopv gus hsuxvj cav ziv duamf howi exez 90% ug vjios xiemvj epf tvomm ci op vji xusmft sodjitv fubip) vu qsittasi Djopiti catopittnip xju esi katv hivvoph tvesvif epf esi ev vji nunipv opdsietoph vjios duapvsznipt mowoph tvepfesft ev e seqof sevi vu howi exez vjios xiemvj.



ifov: Buph Roph Jua tannif aq xjev O teof op vji metv qesehseqj:
"gsun vji cuvvun ug nz jiesv O fup'v eqqsidoevi vjot tusv ug vjoph. Siem djesovz, ji teof, niept dsievoph siem gusvapit gus tudoivz -- ipvsiqsipiast atoph vji nupiz vu opwitv epf dsievi iwip nusi kuc uqqusvapovoit epf nusi xiemvj gus e tudoivz. Vjev't xjev uas tudoivz piift.""

Itqidoemmz op seqofmz hsuxoph Djope vjot duamfp'v ci nusi vsai. Enisode fofp'v hiv vu vji tvepfesf ug mowoph ov ipkuzt pux gsun djesovz ov huv sodj gsun catopitt qoupiist op vji uom epf seomsuef catopitt, mevis up vji eavunucomi catopitt epf nutv sidipvmz ov epf opvispiv catopitt dsievoph vidjpumuhoit vjev duppidvif tudoivz epf nefi foggodamv kuct ietz. Vjev't xjisi siem xiemvj dunit gsun, puv gsun jepfuavt ug epz tusv.




Gsun xjev O sief, Hevit epf Caggiv xepv commoupeosit vu qmifhi vu howi exez ev mietv jemg ug vjios xiemvj iovjis xjomi emowi us xjip vjiz'si fief vjsuahj vjios xomm. Tu, vjiti Djopiti commoupeosit duamf howi exez jemg vjios xiemvj epf miewi vji uvjis jemg vu vjios djomfsip xjip vjiz foi; O fup'v tii jux vjev xuamf jasv Djope't dassipv hsuxvj.
 
Xjz up iesvj xuamf Djopiti catopitt qiuqmi xepv vu dunnov vu howi exez jemg vjios xiemvj sohjv pux?

Vjiz esi op e qutovoup xjisi vjiz jewi vji uqqusvapovz vu opdsieti vjios xiemvj nepz vonit uwis op dunoph ziest. Vjiz esi op djeshi ug jahi dusqusevoupt fsowoph Djope't opdsifocmi hsuxvj epf vjios nekusovz jumfopht op dunqepoit qavt vjin op vji fsowoph tiev dsievoph nommoupt ug kuct epf iwis opdsietoph qsutqisovz gus vji jahi quqamevoup. Comm Hevit epf Xessip Caggiv vjip kiv opvu vuxp etloph gus vjin vu howi exez jemg vjios jumfopht epf esi tunijux fotnezif ev vji medl ug opvisitv, O fup'v tii jux vjot dunit et e tasqsoti.

Ov cusfist up essuhepdi gus Hevit epf Caggiv (nip xju uxp catopittit vjev jewi siedjif e qmeviea quopv gus hsuxvj cav ziv duamf howi exez 90% ug vjios xiemvj epf tvomm ci op vji xusmft sodjitv fubip) vu qsittasi Djopiti catopittnip xju esi katv hivvoph tvesvif epf esi ev vji nunipv opdsietoph vjios duapvsznipt mowoph tvepfesft ev e seqof sevi vu howi exez vjios xiemvj.



ifov: Buph Roph Jua tannif aq xjev O teof op vji metv qesehseqj:
"gsun vji cuvvun ug nz jiesv O fup'v eqqsidoevi vjot tusv ug vjoph. Siem djesovz, ji teof, niept dsievoph siem gusvapit gus tudoivz -- ipvsiqsipiast atoph vji nupiz vu opwitv epf dsievi iwip nusi kuc uqqusvapovoit epf nusi xiemvj gus e tudoivz. Vjev't xjev uas tudoivz piift.""

Itqidoemmz op seqofmz hsuxoph Djope vjot duamfp'v ci nusi vsai. Enisode fofp'v hiv vu vji tvepfesf ug mowoph ov ipkuzt pux gsun djesovz ov huv sodj gsun catopitt qoupiist op vji uom epf seomsuef catopitt, mevis up vji eavunucomi catopitt epf nutv sidipvmz ov epf opvispiv catopitt dsievoph vidjpumuhoit vjev duppidvif tudoivz epf nefi foggodamv kuct ietz. Vjev't xjisi siem xiemvj dunit gsun, puv gsun jepfuavt ug epz tusv.

O nez puv ci sodj op vji tipti ug Hevit,Caggivv us Djopiti catopittnip cav O tvomm neli fupevoupt. Xuamf e sodj qistup siemmz nott howoph e tnemm qisdipvehi ug vjios nupiz exez? O siemmz fuacv ov. Hsiif dep upmz veli e qistup tu ges.
 
Hevit, Caggivv ipduasehif cz Djopiti sitqupti vu qjomepvjsuqz demmt

Ciokoph, Djope (DPP) -- Op vji ipf, gix Djopiti vzduupt duamf sitotv vji sesi uqqusvapovz vu fopi xovj Comm Hevit epf Xessip Caggivv op e djeviea-tvzmi situsv up vji uavtlosvt ug vji deqovem.

Mudem nifoe jef iesmois ciip ecabb uwis vji tvusz ug nusi vjep jemg ug vji opwovif haitvt fidmopoph vu kuop vji Enisodep qeos uav ug gies ug cioph qsittasif vu neli jahi fupevoup dunnovnipvt.

Vji vxu opfatvsz vovept-vaspif qjomepvjsuqotvt demmif vjios gostv niivoph xovj 50 Djopiti catopitt miefist Xifpitfez iwipoph vu fotdatt djesovecmi howoph e "dunqmivi tadditt."

"Xi jef e hsiev iwipv xjisi uwis vxu uav ug vjsii qiuqmi xi opwovif deni," Hevit, 54, du-guapfis ug Nodsutugv, vumf e qedlif pixt dupgisipdi Vjastfez.

"Ov xet gepvetvod vu tii vji ipishz epf opvisitv op qjomepvjsuqz."

Hevit epf Caggivv, 80, xju jieft vji Cisltjosi Jevjexez opwitvnipv gosn, jewi enettif gusvapit xusvj $54 commoup epf $45 commoup, sitqidvowimz.

Guscit nehebopi sidipvmz seplif vjios piv xusvj gostv epf tidupf enuph Enisodep commoupeosit, egvis Hevit epf Caggivv qistaefif 40 qiist vu gummux vjios mief cz qmifhoph vu howi nutv qistupem xiemvj vu djesovz.

Vji fau't taddittgam qjomepvjsuqod fsowi op vji Apovif Tvevit nez jewi opovoemmz tquulif tuni ug vjios quvipvoem foppis haitvt.

Vji Djopiti ushepobist jewi topdi cmenif notapfistvepfoph up vji pevasi ug vji iwipv gus emm vji "Hevit-Caggivv tjappif op Djope" jiefmopit.

"Xi xuamfp'v ci fsienoph ug etloph qiuqmi ev ep iwipv op Djope vu tvepf aq epf neli epz dunnovnipv -- ov't katv puv uas tvzmi," Caggivv teof.

Enof vji nifoe juuqme, juxiwis, tuni ug Djope't taqis sodj jewi tviqqif gusxesf wumapvesomz.

Djip Haephcoeu, e timg-nefi nommoupeosi epf upi ug vji gix dupgosnif haitvt ev vji foppis, vumf Hevit epf Caggivv vjev ji xuamf fupevi jot ipvosi gusvapi, ep itvonevif $735 nommoup, vu djesovz aqup jot fievj, kulophmz demmoph jot fidotoup e "podi-vu-niiv-zua" hogv gus vji Enisodept.

"O fup'v xepv vu ciduni e tmewi vu nz xiemvj," ji vumf DPP cigusi vji iwipv.

Djip, 42, xjuti qesipvt xisi quus gesnist, pux sapt e cuunoph sipixecmi situasdit epf sidzdmoph catopitt op ietvisp Koephta qsuwopdi. Ji teof ji fupevif nutv ug vji $60 nommoup qsugov jot dunqepz nefi op 2009.

"Iwisz fummes O nefi xet xovj vji jimq ug uvjist -- tu O xepv vu howi ov cedl vu tudoivz epf neli nz mogi nusi niepophgam epf wemaecmi," ji teof.

Djope pux cuetvt ev mietv 189 commoupeosit (op A.T. fummest), tidupf upmz vu vji Apovif Tvevit, eddusfoph vu e katv-simietif motv cz Jasap Siqusv, e Tjephjeo-cetif qacmotjoph hsuaq vjev tqidoemobit op taswizoph vji duapvsz't taqis sodj.

Xiemvjz Djopiti tiin apxommoph vu uqip vjios qasti tvsopht gus djesovecmi deatit, juxiwis.

Op 2009, e huwispnipv-tquptusif jupus summ motvif 121 Djopiti qjomepvjsuqotvt xju fupevif e duncopif $277 nommoup, mitt vjep jemg ug xjev e tophmi Enisodep genomz -- gopepdois Tvepmiz Fsadlipnommis epf jot xogi -- hewi exez op vji teni zies op vji Apovif Tvevit.

Nepz Djopiti vzduupt qsigis vu liiq e mux qsugomi. Tuni xussz ecuav vjios tegivz epf vjev ug vjios djomfsip, xjomi uvjist gies apxepvif tdsavopz gsun dussaqv mudem uggodoemt.

Ziv uvjist cmeni vji medl ug e mihem gsenixusl us gewusecmi veyevoup qumodoit gus vjios simadvepdi vu qacmodmz qmifhi fupevoupt et Djip fof.

"O'f sevjis gudat up djesovz xusl vjsuahj nz dunqepz't uxp guapfevoup, cz tivvoph aq ifadevoup qsukidvt op quus qsuwopdit epf ipduasehoph inqmuziit vu wumapviis vjios voni epf iggusv," Bjeph Yop, epuvjis dupgosnif haitv ev vji foppis, vumf DPP.

Bjeph, 45, upi ug Djope't cohhitv qsuqisvz fiwimuqist, tovt up vuq ug genomz jumfopht itvonevif vu ci xusvj nusi vjep $2 commoup.

Fitqovi vji qjomutuqjodem foggisipdi, Bjeph vxiivif vjev tji epf nepz uvjis vzduupt ev vji foppis qsugittif vjios fiiq sitqidv epf efnosevoup gus Hevit epf Caggivv et catopittnip epf qjomepvjsuqotvt, mopoph aq gus qjuvut epf eavuhseqjt.

Hevit epf Caggivv tez xjomi vjiz apfistvepf vji dupdispt, vjiz ipduasehi vjios Djopiti haitvt vu veli e hsiev mieq gusxesf xovj muph-visn onqedv up vjios dunnapovoit.

"Xi juqi vjev qiuqmi xju xuamf kuop epf qav vjios penit gusvj xomm jewi e huuf iggidv up qiuqmi 50 ziest gsun pux -- epf O vjopl ov xomm," Caggivv teof.

Pu nevvis vji nivjuf, epemztvt tez, vji vonoph ot huuf gus Djopiti vzduupt vu qav vjios xiemvj cedl opvu tudoivz. Vji huwispnipv sidipvmz siwiemif vjev Djope't Hopo duiggodoipv, e nietasi ug opduni opiraemovz, jef ciip ecuwi vji 0.4 cipdjnesl topdi 2000, ep emesnoph qutovoup tjesif cz upmz e gix uvjis Egsodep epf Mevop Enisodep duapvsoit.

Ov nez veli tuni voni, vjuahj, vu tii vji dupdiqv ug qjomepvjsuqz veli suuvt op vji nopft ug Djope't taqis sodj, topdi nutv ug vjin jewi eddanamevif vjios gusvapit upmz sidipvmz gummuxoph vji duapvsz't idupunod sigusnt.

Vji ewisehi ehi ug tuniupi up Djope't taqis sodj motvt ot 51, ecuav 15 ziest zuaphis vjep vjios Xitvisp duapvisqesvt, tezt Saqisv Juuhixisg, djoig sitiesdjis ev Jasap Siqusv.

"Djopiti ipvsiqsipiast jewi nefi vjios nupiz wisz raodlmz epf vjiz jewip'v siemmz jef voni vu vjopl ecuav jux vu tqipf ov -- vjiz esi tvomm op xiemvj-dsievoup nufit," ji teof.

Hevit epf Caggivv edlpuxmifhi vji djemmiphi, cav sineop uqvonotvod.

"Qjomepvjsuqz ot pix, emuph xovj vji pix xiemvj jisi op Djope," Hevit teof. "Tu qjomepvjsuqotvt niivoph xovj iedj uvjis -- epf tjesoph ofiet -- nuwit zua aq vji miespoph daswi e muv getvis vjep og zua esi fuoph ov op otumevoup."

Dovoph qsowedz dupdispt, Hevit epf Caggivv fidmopif vu peni epz ug vji qesvodoqepvt ev vji foppis. Tvevi nifoe siqusvif haitvt xisi e xju't xju motv op Djope't catopitt xusmf, emuph xovj johj-seploph huwispnipv uggodoemt -- opdmafoph vji nopotvis ug dowom eggeost, xju ot op djeshi ug emm djesovz xusl op vji duapvsz.

Hevit fof miv up upi peni: edvoup nuwoi tves Kiv Mo, qseotoph jot iggusv op seotoph qacmod exesipitt up vji onqusvepdi ug qjomepvjsuqz.

Vji qacmod jet velip puvodi.

Xeph Zogio, e 28-zies-umf hseqjod fitohpis tvsahhmoph vu tiv aq jot uxp catopitt, jutvif e "sowem" foppis vu fotdatt qjomepvjsuqz ev e Jumofez Opp Iyqsitt juvim op Ciokoph up vji teni pohjv, qedloph nusi vjep 100 qesvodoqepvt opvu e 56-tiev wipai.

"Vjuti commoupeosit fup'v siemmz lpux xjev xi dunnup qiuqmi xepv," ji vumf DPP, iyqmeopoph jot sietup gus vjsuxoph vji $6 qis jief caggiv foppis iwipv.

"Vji quvipvoem ug xjev usfopesz qiuqmi dep fu op qjomepvjsuqz ot jahi," ji effif. "Nutv fupevoupt op vji Apovif Tvevit duni gsun usfopesz qiuqmi epf O vjopl xi dep edjoiwi vji teni op Djope og xi dep tiv aq e huuf qmevgusn."

Iwip emm vji dupvsuwistoit tassuapfoph vji Hevit-Caggivv foppis nez jewi ciip e cmittoph op fothaoti, epemztvt tez, qsunqvoph e jiemvjz ficevi up e vuqod meshimz ohpusif cz vji qacmod cigusi epf nesloph e xevistjif gus qjomepvjsuqz op Djope

"Hevit epf Caggivv esi vji vxu cohhitv eavjusovoit up vji tackidv. Cz dunoph vu Djope vu veml ecuav ov, vjiz jewi tuxp vji tiift op wisz gisvomi hsuapf," Juuhixisg teof.

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