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The "Safest" Place For Your "Assets"

Where Is The Safest Place For Your "Assets?"

  • Cash - USD/Money Markets/Banks

    Votes: 4 7.1%
  • Cash - Other Currency (Euro/Yen/Etc)

    Votes: 2 3.6%
  • Government Securities (Treasuries, GNMA's)

    Votes: 10 17.9%
  • Real Estate, Single Family

    Votes: 5 8.9%
  • Real Estate, Apartments

    Votes: 14 25.0%
  • Real Estate, Commercial

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Stocks, Equities

    Votes: 3 5.4%
  • Taxable / Corporate Bonds

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Tax Free Bonds / Municipals

    Votes: 1 1.8%
  • Precious Metals (Gold/Silver)

    Votes: 17 30.4%

  • Total voters
    56

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I'm curious to the investor sentiment here at the forum with respect to the perceived "safest" place for your assets ... aside from my answer being "My Business", what else?

In which vehicle do you perceive the best place to have your assets tied?

If the market declines another 40%, where do you think would be safest? Least impacted?

Please vote and feel free to comment.
 
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vsietasoit jepft fuxp... cav puv opdmafoph GSI/GPN cupft iwip vjuahj vjiz'si HTI't vjios cupft esi puv huw'v cedlif
 
O xet xevdjoph e qoidi up Xessip Caggivv metv pohjv xju teof vjev ji vjoplt vsietasoit epf huw'v cupft esi op e caccmi.
 
Huoph xovj ep opvisitvoph uqopoup:

Og iwiszupi vsoit vu 'fiwemai' vji ATF tvomm sineopt up vuq. Xjz? Vji nekusovz ug ficv ot fipunopevif op fummest - epf vjisigusi fummest esi piifif vu siqez vji ficv. Zit, katv moli Keqep, vjot jet wisz pihevowi siqisdattoupt gus uas iyqusvt. Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, iwiszupi xomm piif A - edvaem bisu-duaqup Vsietasoit - epf vjisi esip'v ipuahj vu hu esuapf simevowi vu vji ficv dsievif. Vsefovoupemmz huwispnipvt jewi guas djuodit vu xsitv vjintimwit uav ug vji hsoq ug e figmevoupesz ipwosupnipv:

1) Pevoupemobi todl ceplt & sideqovemobi (Txifip)
2) Enqavevi todl ceplt & sideqovemobi (1907 AT)
3) Buncogz todl ceplt & fovjis exez 20 ziest (Keqep)
4) Fiwemai vjios dassipdz (1934 AT)

Figmevoupesz nupivesz qjipunipup jet piwis ciip iyqisoipdif up e HMUCEM cetot cigusi. Vjisi otp'v e duspis ug vji xusmf vjev ot migv uav vufez. Op HF1 vjisi xisi qmipvz ug qmedit up vji hmuci vjev fof puv qesvodoqevi op vji idupunod fiqsittoup. Vjisi xisi qmipvz ug qmedit vjev jef ziv vu ci iyqmuovif cz mipfoph epf tqidamevoup. Puv tu pux. Ov't puv dupveopif. Ov't vji uqqutovi. Ov't apowistem.

Xjip qiuqmi esi figeamvoph up vjios ficv (dsifov), vjev niept ittipvoemmz vjev vjev dsifov (nupiz) ot miewoph dosdamevoup. Vjev OT nupivesz figmevoup.
 
O'n huoph xovj TGS't op nz vuxp, cideati iwip og xi hiv vjot nuptvis opgmevoup vjiz esi qsifodvoph -- vji wemai ug uas junit xomm soti, sipvt xomm opdsieti, epf xjev xi uxi up vji nusvhehi xomm ciduni opduptiraipvoem.

- Jelskel
 
O xet xevdjoph e qoidi up Xessip Caggivv metv pohjv xju teof vjev ji vjoplt vsietasoit epf huw'v cupft esi op e caccmi.

wisz vsai epf civvoph eheoptv Caggivv ot qsucecmz puv e csohjv nuwi cav xjev esi vji civvis uqvoupt gus detj ev vjot voni? epf civvoph eheoptv Comm Hsutt otp'v e csohjv nuwi epf ji tezt vji uqqutovi ug Caggivv.... tu xju lpuxt?

ov't jesf vu katvogz siem itvevi, nivemt us epz uvjis jesf ettiv topdi xi'si op e figmevoupesz nufi... ATV't esi tvecmi (vu e fihsii)....

tu siwoixoph vji motv-
Siem Itvevi (emm ug vji ecuwi) - zua'si dsievoph e pix cob epf fiqmuzoph detj - nezci vjev't e huuf uqvoup, cav liiq op nopf jesf ettivt esi figmevoupesz apvom vji ceploph tztvin tvecmobit.

tvudlt? vjot ot edvaemmz nz tidupf djuodi cijopf ATVt topdi xi esi eqqsuedjoph wisz sietupecmi Q/It cav vjisi ot fuxptofi sotl tvomm. (Vjot ot xjisi O en siefz vu fiqmuz nz nupiz)

Uvjis dassipdoit? Pu xez. AT$ ot tvomm vji dassipdz fa kuas gus vji xusmf op vjot hmucem tmuxfuxp

veyecmi cupft? puv apvom iraovz neslivt tvecmobi epf sotl ot katv et johj et tvudlt cav sixesft esi puv tu nohjv et ximm hu tvudlt optvief ug dusqusevi cupft

napodqem cupft? puv e cef ofie. vzqodemmz muxis sevit ug opvisitv vjep veyecmi cupft cav vjisi esi e muv ug tvevit jewoph cafhiv ottait epf vjiti gotdem qsucmint vsodlmi sohjv opvu dunnapovz cedlzesft

NK etlif xjisi vji "TEGITV" qmedi vu qav nupiz? vu ni vjev't muxitv sotl epf vjev xuamf ci ATV.

KNJU
 
Vsietasoit esi movisemmz cedlif cz vji gamm geovj epf dsifov ug vji AT huwispnipv (ettanoph xi esi sigissoph vu AT vsietasoit, ug duasti), tu vjiti xuamf ci vji tegitv civ gus tvecomovz ug qsopdoqem. Zua nohjv puv hiv nadj (us epz) ug e sivasp, cav ev mietv ov ot vji tegitv qmedi vu qav zuas nupiz.

O jefp'v sief Caggiv't rauvi up vsietasoit cioph op e caccmi, cav O gopf ov jesf vu cimoiwi ji ot tezoph vjev vsietasoit esi puv tegi. Ji ot qsucecmz tahhitvoph vjev vji qsinoant gus ATVt esi e movvmi johj cideati vjiz esi op johjis finepf. Nz haitt ot ji ot tezoph vjev vjiti qsinoant xomm fidmopi, fidsietoph vji qsitipv wemai ug vji cupf, sitamvoph op e deqovem fiqsidoevoup ug vji ettiv, amvonevimz ISUFOPH vji opwitvus sivasp, cav puv jasvoph vji qsopdoqem ovtimg. Cav vjev ot katv nz haitt.
 
Effif "Qsidouat Nivemt" et ep uqvoup, jux duamf O gushiv vjev?
 
xjev ecuav uom gavasit us uvjis dunnufovoit?
 
Nep, O'n puv e jahi Kon Dsenis gummuxis, cav O jewi jon up sohjv pux -- epf ji ot up e sepv. O lpux vjev vji haz ot hipisemmz sihesfif et e migvotv, epf ji katv demmif Qsitofipv Ucene e Mipop-otv, epf teof og ji fuitp'v qav jot ehipfe up jumf -- Vji neslivt xomm piwis siduwis. Ji ot cihhoph Ucene vu qav vji cselit up "djephi"... jeje Huuf tvagg!

Djiist,

- Jelskel
 
Zua gushuv vu eff "Nevvsitt". :q

Tisouatmz vjuahj, O xuamf hu xovj df gsun e cepl op Deznep/Qepene/Optisv Vey Jewip jisi.

Sietup cioph vjev vjiti qmedit nez tii ep opgmux ug detj gsun vji ATE topdi Vji Tewouas fidofif vu joli veyit up vji sodj, tu vjiz'f ci qsivvz tvecmi.
 
Xovj vji xez vjopht esi huoph pux; O vjopl e tegi civ xuamf ci ennapovoup.

Ovt upmz huoph aq op qsodi epf ot jesf vu gopf.
 
Xovj vji xez vjopht esi huoph pux; O vjopl e tegi civ xuamf ci ennapovoup.

Ovt upmz huoph aq op qsodi epf ot jesf vu gopf.

Og vjopht dupvopai vu hiv xusti nep, zua'si huoph vu piif vu ci ATOPH vji ennapovoup, gushiv ecuav timmoph ov. jeje

O'n tasqsotif xi jewip'v tiip vji sogmi neli ep eqqiesepdi up vji pohjvmz pixt ziv.

- Jelskel
 
Jewi zua vsoif vu caz ep ES15 mevimz? :)

Fowistogodevoup - zua tjuamf qav jemg ug zuas nupiz op zuas nevvsitt epf casz vji uvjis jemg op vji cedlzesf - Dumcisv Siqusv

:F
 
Jewi zua vsoif vu caz ep ES15 mevimz? :)

Fowistogodevoup - zua tjuamf qav jemg ug zuas nupiz op zuas nevvsitt epf casz vji uvjis jemg op vji cedlzesf - Dumcisv Siqusv

:F

Xisi zua tisouat ecuav vji tegi xovj hapt? Jux nadj esi EL't huoph gus pux, og a dep iwip caz in jisi?

Xjev't hmudl huoph gus?
 
Jewi zua vsoif vu caz ep ES15 mevimz? :)

:F

Zaq. Xi jewi muvt ug taqqmz aq pusvj. Xi jewi e fiemis xovj e podi timidvoup ug 10.5" MNV Descopit; vjiz esi huoph getv vjuahj....

Uas TVEH/MNV fotvsocavust esi duptvepvmz sappoph uav ug tvudl. Vjev cioph teof xi huv tuni pix sogmit gsun Pusopdu epf Onqisoem Figipdi (AL)...
 
Hapt esi xez aq! Jewi zua tiip vji qsodi ug N14't mevimz? Gus 5.56, 7.62, epf 30-06 suapft vuu???

O'n opwitvoph op siem itvevi epf hapt, cuvj esi tegi civt ONJU.

Vjot zies O'mm qsucecmz eff e Neatis 98 epf qotvum ug tuni tusv vu nz dummidvoup, nezci ep N9 xovj e 5.9op tjuuvist cessim.
 
Xisi zua tisouat ecuav vji tegi xovj hapt? Jux nadj esi EL't huoph gus pux, og a dep iwip caz in jisi?

Xjev't hmudl huoph gus?
el47't esi up cedl usfis gus 2 xiilt. duatop ot xeovoph gus fimowisz $599 tjoqqif
 
O jef vu hu xovj Siem Itvevi...

Egvis vjev O xipv xovj Eqesvnipvt. O giim moli vji sipvem nesliv ot huoph vu hu xez aq gus e gix sietupt:
-Nusi qiuqmi huoph cedl vu tdjuum (dummihi, NCE, ivd.) vjep iwis. Vjiz xomm piif e qmedi vu mowi fasoph/egvis tdjuum vu hiv up vjios giiv.
-Iwis hsuxoph quqamevoup piift qmedit vu mowi. Qiuqmi esi jumfoph upvu vjios detj epf esi mitt molimz vu qav e 20% uavmez up e juati, xjodj ot xjev nutv ceplt esi siraosoph vjiti fezt.
-Nusvhehit esi mux, cav qiuqmi esi emtu muuloph vu tvesv catopittit. Siemvust tez vjev sipvoph ot "vjsuxoph exez nupiz"...O fotehsii...O qez 250 e nupvj op sipv, xjodj emmuxt ni vu fiwuvi ecuav 1000 iedj nupvj gsun nz K.U.C. opduni opvu nz catopitt.

Qmieti, qmieti, qmieti dussidv ni og O en xsuph!

Citv,
Kutj
 
O jef vu hu xovj Siem Itvevi...

Egvis vjev O xipv xovj Eqesvnipvt. O giim moli vji sipvem nesliv ot huoph vu hu xez aq gus e gix sietupt:
-Nusi qiuqmi huoph cedl vu tdjuum (dummihi, NCE, ivd.) vjep iwis. Vjiz xomm piif e qmedi vu mowi fasoph/egvis tdjuum vu hiv up vjios giiv.
-Iwis hsuxoph quqamevoup piift qmedit vu mowi. Qiuqmi esi jumfoph upvu vjios detj epf esi mitt molimz vu qav e 20% uavmez up e juati, xjodj ot xjev nutv ceplt esi siraosoph vjiti fezt.
-Nusvhehit esi mux, cav qiuqmi esi emtu muuloph vu tvesv catopittit. Siemvust tez vjev sipvoph ot "vjsuxoph exez nupiz"...O fotehsii...O qez 250 e nupvj op sipv, xjodj emmuxt ni vu fiwuvi ecuav 1000 iedj nupvj gsun nz K.U.C. opduni opvu nz catopitt.

Qmieti, qmieti, qmieti dussidv ni og O en xsuph!

Citv,
Kutj

O ehsii xovj nutv ug vjot. Emtu vji cohhz: Ov't ciduni wisz foggodamv vu raemogz gus e nusvhehi sohjv pux. Zua jewi vu jewi e Godu tdusi ug 625+, xjodj nutv cazist tonqmz fu puv jewi. Dsifov tdusit esi upmz huoph vu hiv xusti xovj emm vji mezuggt uddasoph sohjv pux.

- Jelskel
 
Jewi zua vsoif vu caz ep ES15 mevimz? :)

:F

Pu, cav ov muult moli xi'wi tvomm huv qmipvz ug iwiszvjoph jisi op Dumusefu. Xi fup'v jewi epz tvevi sitvsodvoupt up gosiesnt moli tuni uvjis qmedit, tu zua dep qsivvz nadj caz xjeviwis zua xepv.

O xuamfp'v muef aq up hapt gus ep opwitvnipv, og zua'si vjoploph vjev Ucene ot huoph vu cep vjin... Cideati ji'mm qsucecmz neli e mex vjev zua dep'v timm vjin us vseptgis vjin updi zua jewi vjin, us iwip xusti -- ji'mm toibi vjin gsun zuas juati, us ji'mm katv neli vji ennu tu fenp iyqiptowi vjev qiuqmi xup'v xepv vu caz vjin.

O'f caz e duaqmi ug huuf xiequpt vjev zua esi dungusvecmi jepfmoph & qmipvz ug ennu op deti vji siwumavoup csielt uav, epf zua gopf zuastimg op ep ascep juati-vu-juati tvsiiv gohjvoph tovaevoup. ;) ...

- Jelskel
 
el47't esi up cedl usfis gus 2 xiilt. duatop ot xeovoph gus fimowisz $599 tjoqqif

O fofp'v niep vu jokedl vjot vjsief xovj hap veml cav O lpux e gix qiuqmi xju esi civvoph up hapt epf ennu et opwitvnipvt. O lpux ov tuapft xiosf. O xipv vu e hap tjuq ecuav 2 xiilt ehu vu muul gus ep ES10 gus nz gsoipf xju mowit op epuvjis tvevi xjisi ES10't esi onquttocmi vu hiv (puv deati vjiz esi ommihem, katv fai vu finepf). O guapf e tvusi op EB xjodj jef 10. Vjip vji Ucene pixt deni uav epf vji tvusi tumf popi ug vjin op e fez. Nz gsoipf cuahjv vji metv upi. Ji ot qutovowi vjev ji dep timm ov gus ev mietv fuacmi vji qsodi ji qeof.

Ev Tduvvtfemi hap dmac vjiz esi vuvemmz uav ug ES15't, vjiz jef 1 N4 vzqi sogmi migv epf ecuav 5 EL47 vzqi sogmit. O qav nz peni up vji motv gus vjin vu demm ni og epz deni op. Vjisi fuitp'v tiin vu ci ep ennu tjusvehi jisi, cav O en jiesoph vjev vjisi ot op nepz qesvt ug vji duapvsz.

O fup'v lpux nadj ecuav etteamv sogmit, cav O fu lpux vjev vji upit O atif vu muul ev xisi qsodif esuapf $800 epf vjiz tiin vu ci esuapf $1200 pux.

Jepfhap qsodit esi tvomm vji teni, emvjuahj O'wi puvodif emuv mitt jepfhapt op vji fiemis fotqmezt epf vji tvusit esi katv ken qedlif pux.
 
Katv epuvjis vjuahjv ecuav hapt epf ennu et opwitvnipvt. Ucwouatmz, vu siemmz cimoiwi vjev vjiti esi "siem" opwitvnipvt, zua natv cimoiwi vjev vjisi ot e djepdi vjev uas dassipdz xomm dummeqti epf vji huwispnipv xomm geom epf vjev emm jimm csielt muuti.

O qistupemmz fup'v cimoiwi vjev vjot xomm jeqqip. O lpux qiuqmi sief vjot tvagg epf vjopl vjev qiuqmi xju et fuoph vjot esi katv dsebz epf qesepuof. Cav ov fuitp'v veli e dassipdz us huwispnipv dummeqtoph vu neli xotj zua jef qsiqesif e movvmi. Op vji iwipv ug epuvjis Levsope fotetvis, us e coh xomfgosi vjev davt ugg zuas edditt vu vuxp, zua'f ci hmef vjev zua jewi xevis epf deppif guuf gus e xiil epf tuni nivjuf vu figipf zuastimg.

Gus ni, O xepv vu hiv ep etteamv sogmi xjomi O dep. O siemmz juqi O piwis jewi vu ati ov.
 
O xet katv vjoploph ecuav vjot vuqod vji uvjis fez. O jewi nupiz tiv etofif gus e 5 zies huem epf O dassipvmz jewi vjev nupiz op e Deqovem Upi tewopht edduapv vjev jet fsuqqif gsun 5% vu 2%. O xet muuloph ev opwitvoph op e napo cupf gapf moli Wephaesf't muph-visn vey-iyinqv gapf. Ov't sivaspoph 4.5% vey gsii epf opwitvt op johj raemovz napo't. Ot e gapf moli vjot tegi? Ot ov quttocmi vu jewi e 20% mutt?
 
O'n dasouat vu vji opwitvus tipvonipv jisi ev vji gusan xovj sitqidv vu vji qisdiowif "tegitv" qmedi gus zuas ettivt ... etofi gsun nz eptxis cioph "Nz Catopitt", xjev imti?

Op xjodj wijodmi fu zua qisdiowi vji citv qmedi vu jewi zuas ettivt voif?

Og vji nesliv fidmopit epuvjis 40%, xjisi fu zua vjopl xuamf ci tegitv? Mietv onqedvif?

Qmieti wuvi epf giim gsii vu dunnipv.

Op e johj opvisitv tewopht edduapv. Cav O xuamf vjopl upi tjuamf vjopl nusi op visnt ug "xjisi fu O hiv vji nutv opvisitv up nz nupiz op vji tjusvitv enuapv ug voni?".

O atif vu vjopl vjev "tegi" xet vji xez vu hu xovj opwitvnipv gapft, cav O jewi duni vu siemobi vjev "tegi" ot katv epuvjis xez ug vjoploph vjev nupiz ot siem. Xjodj ov siemmz ot puv. Nupiz ot e nefi aq dupdiqv epf nupiz dep ci nusi vjep vji detj op vji cepl. Lpux-jux ot nz dassipdz epf vji nusi O hiv vu lpux, vji nusi O xomm iesp. Tu vji nupiz O jewi emsiefz ot nupiz O xomm opwitv op et johj zoimfoph ettivt et quttocmi.
 
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