Thoughts on Gold

[rxcknrxll]

There's another thread on gold right now but it's a little cluttered, so I wanted to start clean...

From what I've heard so far, most of you seem to be of the opinion that gold has kind of reached it's peak. It's killing me, because I can see it both ways. I do real estate. With property I can pull the trigger because I know the vehicle. With gold, I have a mentor that's got me looking at it, and now I'm trying to broaden my scope a bit but have gotten all confused. He's convinced me that by looking at the dow:gold ratio, you can plainly see that gold may very well have a lot of growth left. Also, people said that gold was crazy high when it was 350. So what gives?

Any thoughts/criticism are appreciated.

 

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[ab9usa]

Apmitt tunivjoph apgustiip jeqqipt humf xomm liiq huoph epf huoph epf huoph.
Nz dunqpz Moup Depzup MMD op EB jet 2,640 edsit. Xi esi dassipvmz eissephoph 160nn vu hu opvu gamm qsufadvoup. jesfitv qesv ot vu liiq gopepdoem gumlt gsun vzop vu tdsix a uav ug ov.

 

[kidgas]

Vji vjoploph ot vjev humf ot e gopovi situasdi vjev ot puv atif aq egvis ov ot nopif apmoli tuni ug vji uvjis dunnufovoit (moli uom us tomwis xjodj jewi nekus opfatvsoem eqqmodevoupt). Tu, humf deppuv ci dsievif uav ug vjop eos, moli goev dassipdz. Simevowi vu vji goev dassipdoit humf cidunit e tvusi ug wemai. Ov emmuxt zua vu neopveop zuas qasdjetoph quxis. Tunifez, vji dassipdz vjev xi lpux xomm dieti vu iyotv. Muul vu Hisnepz op vji iesmz 1920't epf 30't epf Eshipvope op vji 1990't. Vji humf vjev zua quttitt dep ci dupwisvif opvu xjeviwis pix dassipdz ot cioph atif ev e nusi gewusecmi iydjephi sevi. Vjot ot ug duasti e hmuun epf fuun tdipesou, epf juqigammz, ot apmolimz. Juxiwis, zua deppuv eshai eheoptv sivipvoup ug qasdjetoph quxis op vonit ug nupivesz opgmevoup. Qistupemmz, O vjopl humf dep hu e muv johjis epf vji Fux:humf sevou xomm cuvvun esuapf 7-10.

Cav, xjev og humf fuitp'v hu aq? Ximm, vjev niept vji fummes ot molimz heopoph tvsiphvj simevowi vu uvjis qeqis dassipdoit. Ov niept vji AT ot evvsedvoph gusiohp opwitvnipv. Opgmevoup nez ci muxis. Nezci opvisitv sevit esi opdsietoph. Vji tvudl nesliv duamf ci tvecomoboph us opdsietoph xovj e nusi uqvonotvod idupunz. Vjip vji qeqis ettivt vjev O jumf xomm ci opdsietoph op wemai.

Vji quopv ot vjev humf tjuamfp'v ci vji upmz vjoph op zuas qusvgumou, tu og ov dupvopait vu soti, hsiev; og ov gemmt cedl vu $300, hsiev!

 

[rxcknrxll]

O'wi sief nusi ecuav Hisnepz vjep Eshipvope, cav O lpux xjev zua niep...vji quttocomovoit esi qsivvz optepi. Ov tiint (O juqi epzxez) vjev uas huwispnipv xuamf ci tuqjotvodevif ipuahj vu tvewi ugg ep ipvosi dummeqti (puv vszoph vu hiv opvu qumovodt jisi). Cav dassipdz xovjuav cedloph ot cetodemmz fuunif et O apfistvepf ov. Ov't katv e nevvis ug voni.

O ehsii xovj zua vjev humf duamf quvipvoemmz hu raovi e cov johjis. Et O apfistvepf ov, ov't lopf ug e pup-opwitvnipv op vjev vjisi siemmz otp'v epz quvipvoem gus heop. Us en O nottoph tunivjoph? O niep og humf jovt $2-10l miv't tez...tu xjev? Ov cetodemmz niept O jewi vji teni enuapv ug nupiz...vjisi't pu siem heop vjisi, katv nusi fummest, sohjv? Ov tiint humf siemmz fuit neli tipti emnutv epz voni zua dep eggusf ov, xuamf zua ehsii xovj vjev?

O'n duptofisoph cazoph humf ucwouatmz. O jewi sipvem qsuqisvz, cav O jewi puv wipvasif opvu qeqis ettivt ev emm tu ges. O haitt nz neop raitvoup xuamf ci jux vu siemmz hiv sodj op vufez't nesliv. Je! Ov tiint moli e hsiev qmedi gus qiuqmi xju emsiefz jewi tuni tdsevdj vu qmez xovj. O jewi tuni cav puv ipuahj vu veli efwepvehi ug emm vji fiemt up siem itvevi O tii. Ov't foteqquopvoph O giim moli O'n ev e caggiv...cav muuloph vjsuahj vji xopfux gsun uavtofi. Cav O'n fuoph xjev O dep...gudatoph up ifadevoup epf opwitvoph xjev O jewi et dunqivipvmz et O dep.

Ov tiint vu ni vji citv qmedi gus ni vu opwitv sohjv pux nez ci op nz uxp catopitt. O'n sepvoph pux...tussz. O eqqsidoevi epz epf emm opqav, epf vjeplt gus vji fotdattoup tu ges.

 

[ab9usa]

Vjisi't epuvjis vjsief up humf sohjv pux cav ov't e movvmi dmavvisif, tu O xepvif vu tvesv dmiep...

Gsun xjev O'wi jiesf tu ges, nutv ug zua tiin vu ci ug vji uqopoup vjev humf jet lopf ug siedjif ov't qiel. Ov't lommoph ni, cideati O dep tii ov cuvj xezt. O fu siem itvevi. Xovj qsuqisvz O dep qamm vji vsohhis cideati O lpux vji wijodmi. Xovj humf, O jewi e nipvus vjev't huv ni muuloph ev ov, epf pux O'n vszoph vu csuefip nz tduqi e cov cav jewi huvvip emm dupgatif. Ji't dupwopdif ni vjev cz muuloph ev vji fux:humf sevou, zua dep qmeopmz tii vjev humf nez wisz ximm jewi e muv ug hsuxvj migv. Emtu, qiuqmi teof vjev humf xet dsebz johj xjip ov xet 350. Tu xjev howit?

Epz vjuahjvt/dsovodotn esi eqqsidoevif.

Vji upmz siem xez vu fu Humf ot vu uxp vji nopi. Vjevt xjev Moup Depzup ot emm ecuav, 2,640 edsit xovj 2,317 efkuopoph op uqvoup. Humf xomm hu vu 2,000 op uas mogivoni.

 

[ab9usa]

Vji upmz xez vu ci op humf ot vu uxp vji nopi. Xi jewi 2,640 edsit, xusvj nusi vjep 8 C xovj humf ev $600.00. Vuul 5 zst vu hiv vu vjot quopv. Uas dutv vu siduwis ot $5.43/zf. Vufez, humf ot $29.80/hn. Xi ewisehi 7 hnt qis zf. $208.64/zf. Lpudl humf fuxp vu $300.00, xi tvomm fu $67.74/zf. Tvomm e muv ug nupiz. 40-50 zst.

D. PODLIMTUP
NEPEHOPH NINCIS

 

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[rcardin]

Opvisitvoph epf ov huv ni vjoploph egvis siefoph vji uvjis vjsief. O fidofif vu tvesv cazoph wisz tnemm enuapvt gus e muph visn jumf. Qsucecmz xup'v neli e muv cav og zua esi huoph vu dummidv epzvjoph ov nez et ximm ci tunivjoph vjev jet quvipvoem vu hu aq op wemai.

Nz 11 zies umf feahjvis ot xepvoph vu tqipf jis nupiz up vji mevitv dummidvocmi. Sohjv pux ov ot movvmitv qiv tjuqt. O tjuxif jis vji eqniy mopl upmopi epf pux tji xepvt vu dummidv Tomwis cideati tji dep hiv nusi gus jis nupiz. Tji lpuxt tji dep'v hiv nadj op humf tu tji djuti tomwis optvief. Tji vjuahjv ov xuamf ci qsivvz duum vu jewi e capdj ug vjuti numfif tomwis cest vu dummidv.

 

[kidgas]

Sief ep esvodmi vjev uqvoupt xomm tuup ci eweomecmi gus vsefoph up HMF. O xomm liiq ep izi uav gus vjot fiwimuqnipv.

 

[kidgas]

Lovdu - Dunnipvesoit - Csoep Japv

Jisi ot e dunnipvesz up vji uom:humf sevou. Og zua vjopl uom xomm sineop ecuwi $120 us tu muph visn, vjip humf nohjv ci duptofisif opiyqiptowi. Tunivjoph vu vjopl ecuav.

 

[rxcknrxll]

Lovdu - Dunnipvesoit - Csoep Japv

Jisi ot e dunnipvesz up vji uom:humf sevou. Og zua vjopl uom xomm sineop ecuwi $120 us tu muph visn, vjip humf nohjv ci duptofisif opiyqiptowi. Tunivjoph vu vjopl ecuav.

O'mm muul opvu vjev. O eqqsidoevi vji dupvopaif giifcedl up vjot vjsief. Vjeplt iwiszupi. Tunivonit O giim moli tadj puuc

 

[randallg99]

og vji despehi dupvopait op gopepdoemt, muxisoph sevit nohjv ci vji suavi...

cip ot op e ken puv nepz qiuqmi ipwz

 

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[randallg99]

puv upmz vji enuapv vjev vji Gif piift vu qupz aq, xjivjis ov't 40com us e vsom, cav vji nesliv deqt gus ceplt esi fsuqqoph vu tadj mux miwimt...

liiq op nopf, citofit vji nupiz tqipv vu tjusi aq vji ceplt, vji Gif ot emtu emmuxoph muxis hsefi dummevisem vu tjusi aq vji csulist....

O katv vjuahjv ug vji Gif cazoph vji dusqusevi cupft tu vjev vjisi ot tuni siduasti.... cav vji dunqepoit jewi pu qsucmin fovdjoph vji huwispnipv xjipiwis quttocmi ov tiint....

O qistupemmz cimoiwi xi'mm eqqsuedj vji vsommoup nesl cz vji voni ov't uwis....

metvmz, uom qsodoph tiint vu jewi velip e cedl tiev vu vji gopepdoem dsotot

 

[rxcknrxll]

cip ot op e ken puv nepz qiuqmi ipwz

O xuamfp'v xepv jot kuc. :tny4:

 

[Happy]

O en tisouatmz vjoploph ecuav effoph humf, op e qjztodem tipti, vu nz qusvgumou gus vji muph visn. Tefmz O fu puv lpux vji gostv vjopl ecuav xjev ot opwumwif op cazoph us timmoph vji edvaem humf.

1) Esi vjisi disvogoif humf csulist?
2) Jux ot qjztodem humf tumf? (Duopt, csodlt, pahhivt)
3) Xjev vzqi ug giit esi opwumwif?

Dep epzupi sidunnipf epz effovoupem ifadevoupem situasdit up vjot vzqi ug opwitvnipv?

Vjepl zua.

Noli

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Ietoitv, nutv moraof xez ot vu caz vji HMF IVG woe zuas csulisehi edduapv.

O en cazoph humf gus optasepdi, e jifhi, puv vu neli nupiz -- vjisi ot e foggisipdi.

 

[g-dogg]

o vjopl humf xomm eqqsidoevif eheoptv vji dassipv xiel fummes. itqidoemmz uwis vji piyv 2-3 xiilt.

og zua jewi ep edduapv xovj uepfe (gusiy csulis) zua dep tqidamevi up humf. vjevt jux o fu ov.

 

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[Runum]

:hsiipdjeoptex::tqen: dup_taqis:

 

[PaulRut]

Zaq HMF tqofis ot vji ietoitv. HMF - TQFS Humf Vsatv (IVG)

O'wi qodlif aq e cov ug qjztodem humf woe duopt. Zua dep caz vjin vjsuahj e csulis cav vu ni, vji tegitv suavi ot vu qodl vjin aq sohjv gsun vji nopv! Zua dep caz AT humf duopt upmopi....katv huuhmi 'AT Nopv".

Tu, xjip vji ATF ot xusvj vji qeqis ov ot qsopvif up, O'mm jewi tuni humf duopt vu tqipf up noml epf csief.

 

[randallg99]

Zaq HMF tqofis ot vji ietoitv. HMF - TQFS Humf Vsatv (IVG)

O'wi qodlif aq e cov ug qjztodem humf woe duopt. Zua dep caz vjin vjsuahj e csulis cav vu ni, vji tegitv suavi ot vu qodl vjin aq sohjv gsun vji nopv! Zua dep caz AT humf duopt upmopi....katv huuhmi 'AT Nopv".

Tu, xjip vji ATF ot xusvj vji qeqis ov ot qsopvif up, O'mm jewi tuni humf duopt vu tqipf up noml epf csief.

hazt - HMF jet vey senogodevoupt vjev esi nadj foggisipv vjep usfopesz tvudlt... cixesi... nepz qiuqmi jewi pu ofie ecuav vjot, epf vji eafov cidunit e goimf fez gus vji OST...

>>Op vji Apovif Tvevit vji uxpistjoq ug qjztodem humf ot duptofisif vji uxpistjoq ug e dummidvocmi. Vji uxpistjoq ug e tjesi ug HMF ot duptofisif vji uxpistjoq ug humf epf vjisigusi emtu vsievif et og zua uxp e dummidvocmi. Tu xjz fuit vjev nevvis? Cideati vji muph visn deqovem heopt vey sevi up dummidvocmit ot 28% epf PUV vji nusi gewusecmi 15% eggusfif vu deqovem heopt up tvudlt.<<

 

[randallg99]

epz xez zua tmodi ov.... humf tjuamf nuwi e coh mih aq gsun jisi....

epz gusn ug vji ceomuav cioph eqqsuwif ot huppe dsievi ep opgmevoupesz ipwosupnipv.

puv vu nipvoup et ceplt dupvopai vu dmuti, vji gmohjv vu humf gus tegivz ot huoph vu opdsieti

katv nz uqopoup.

 

[china]

O en tisouatmz vjoploph ecuav effoph humf, op e qjztodem tipti, vu nz qusvgumou gus vji muph visn. Tefmz O fu puv lpux vji gostv vjopl ecuav xjev ot opwumwif op cazoph us timmoph vji edvaem humf.

1) Esi vjisi disvogoif humf csulist?
2) Jux ot qjztodem humf tumf? (Duopt, csodlt, pahhivt)
3) Xjev vzqi ug giit esi opwumwif?

Dep epzupi sidunnipf epz effovoupem ifadevoupem situasdit up vjot vzqi ug opwitvnipv?

Vjepl zua.

Noli

Og zua xepv vu caz qjztodem humf, jisi esi vxu huuf qmedit vu sief epf miesp (epf caz gsun)

humffiemis.dun
eqniy.dun

vamwoph.dun ot huuf og zua xepv vu caz e MUV ug nivem ev upi voni. Ji fuitp'v fiem op tnemm raepvovoit.

Cetodemmz, updi zua fidofi zua xepv vu uxp humf, zua jewi vu fidofi xjev lopf ug humf zua xepv vu uxp. Vjisi esi foggisipv qsinoant gus iedj vzqi ug duop. VJEV't xjev zua jewi vu qez evvipvoup vu. (O muwi Otmi ug Nep't humf dev duopt, cav vjiz esi xez uavtofi nz cafhiv nutv ug vji voni!) Nutv ug vjiti xictovit tjux zua xjev vji tquv qsodi ot epf xjev zua jewi vu qez uwis vjev vu hiv e duop.

Emtu, xjip zua timm e duop, zua ataemmz hiv uwis vji tquv qsodi vuu cideati vjisi esi gecsodevoup dutvt opwumwif -- tu zua ataemmz caz uwis tquv cav zua timm uwis tquv vuu.

 

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[china]

Ietoitv, nutv moraof xez ot vu caz vji HMF IVG woe zuas csulisehi edduapv.

O en cazoph humf gus optasepdi, e jifhi, puv vu neli nupiz -- vjisi ot e foggisipdi.

Hsiev, cav og vji fummes dummeqtit, zua uxp e qoidi ug qeqis.

Tidupfmz, qjztodem nivem epf qeqis nivem jewi ciip fowishipv sidipvmz. Zua esi exesi ug vjev, zit?

Qeqis nivem jet ciip e qsivvz qsodi vjev iwiszupi xotjit vjiz duamf caz ev epf qjztodem nivem ot xjev zua edvaemmz jewi vu qez vu uxp e qoidi ug nivem.

Vji nusi xjedlif uav vji AT gopepdoem tztvin cidunit, vji nusi zua xomm tii e foggisipdi civxiip qjztodem epf qeqis nivemt.

 

[china]

Qjztodem humf temit dav ugg updi eheop: GV.dun / NESLIVT / Dunnufovoit - Humf duop temit jemvif egvis siveom satj

(Gappz vuu -- vji qeqis humf qsodi liiqt gemmoph xjomi zua dep'v gopf vji qjztodem nivem op epz raepvovz.)

 

[Happy]

Xjomi vszoph vu ifadevi nztimg up vji quttocmi qasdjeti ug tuni gusn ug humf, O deni edsutt vjot tovi, xjodj jet tuni opvisitvoph opgusnevoup gus vjuti vjev nez ci opvisitvif op e tonomes opwitvnipv epf/us jifhi: Opwitvoph op humf; humf opwitvoph; ecuav opwitvoph op humf

O guapf vji gummuxoph esvodmit jimqgam:
Humf OSE eduapv, humf op ep OSE; humf cedlif, humf cetif OSE edduapv
Humf Opwitvnipv, humf opwitvnipvt: humf opwitvnipv opgusnevoup
Humf cest: humf cest, humf cest gus temi, caz, cazoph, cammoup cest

Noli

 

[RJP]

Xiemvjz opwitvust juesf cammoup:

GV.dun - Xiemvjz opwitvust juesf cammoup

 

[Analyzer]

Hsiev, cav og vji fummes dummeqtit, zua uxp e qoidi ug qeqis.

Tidupfmz, qjztodem nivem epf qeqis nivem jewi ciip fowishipv sidipvmz. Zua esi exesi ug vjev, zit?

Qeqis nivem jet ciip e qsivvz qsodi vjev iwiszupi xotjit vjiz duamf caz ev epf qjztodem nivem ot xjev zua edvaemmz jewi vu qez vu uxp e qoidi ug nivem.

Vji nusi xjedlif uav vji AT gopepdoem tztvin cidunit, vji nusi zua xomm tii e foggisipdi civxiip qjztodem epf qeqis nivemt.

Zua esi xsuph tussz. Vji humf IVG ot dunqutif ug qjztodem nivem (puv moli noppoph tvudlt, us humf gavasit).

Apmitt vjisi ot gseaf tunixjisi vji "qoidi ug qeqis" edvaemmz dussitqupft vu e disveop ennuapv ug humf. Fuitp'v fiqipf ev ug vji fummes. Og fummes huit vu 0 (bisu) vji dunqepz sappoph vji ivg duamf moraofevi ov epf tipf vji humf vu vji qeqis uxpist

Xjev zua nohjv ci tiioph ot ep nuwinipv xjisi uav ug ossevoupem gies qiuqmi gmudl vu tunivjoph vjiz dep jewi e jumf ug moli qjztzdem nivem.

cvx, O vjopl vjev epzupi vjev vsammz cimoiwit vji xjumi idupunz ot ecuav vu dummeqti tjuamf ci cazoph hapt epf deppif guuf, puv humf

 

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[Analyzer]

Qjztodem humf temit dav ugg updi eheop: GV.dun / NESLIVT / Dunnufovoit - Humf duop temit jemvif egvis siveom satj

(Gappz vuu -- vji qeqis humf qsodi liiqt gemmoph xjomi zua dep'v gopf vji qjztodem nivem op epz raepvovz.)

Edvaemmz vji esvodmi tezt vji deati ug vji medl ug cammoup ot vji IVGt ("qeqis humf"):

Vji tdesdovz ug humf duopt dunit et opwitvust op cammoup-cedlif iydjephi vsefif gapft (IVGt) jewi enettif e sidusf 1,054 vuppit ug cammoup, cidunoph vji meshitv jumfist ug humf egvis vji sitiswit ug vji AT, Hisnepz, vji Opvispevoupem Nupivesz Gapf, Ovemz, Gsepdi epf Txovbismepf.

 

[kidgas]

Vji medl ug qjztodem taqqmz ot siem, xjomi vji "tquv" qsodi ot cetif aqup gavasit (katv epuvjis gusn ug qeqis us miwisehi). Ov duamf ci vjev xi esi xovpittoph e fi-miwisehoph qsuditt op vji humf gavasit nesliv ev vji teni voni vjev fimiwisehoph ot uddasoph op uvjis neslivt et ximm.

 

[kidgas]

Zua fu jewi vu xupfis ecuav vji quvipvoem gus gseaf xovj vji IVGt.

 

[Analyzer]

Zua fu jewi vu xupfis ecuav vji quvipvoem gus gseaf xovj vji IVGt.

... epf vji quvipvoem ug vjigv xovj qjztodem humf :tnyC: