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Hello all - I'm a newbie so please bear with me if I say something absurd, which I probably will.

I've had this idea floating around in my head for about a year, and have had a landing page up for a few months and not getting any traction at all. In a nutshell, my vision is a social network for student and independent filmmakers, streamlining the process of casting and staffing an indie project. I view it as a value arbitrage and inconvenience opportunity, as my own experience with these types of platforms often lead to incompetent and/or shady people. Many aspiring actors/editors/cinematographers, etc. start off on Craigslist and other sites where you really don't know anything about the people or film until you get there, and it's often a struggle to get paid and get credit and copy of your work.

So that's the basic abstract. My landing page is filmpatico.com. I've run MailCheat(Chimp) ads on Facebook and Instagram, and just finished a four-day Adwords campaign. I averaged a CTR of probably around 6-8%, and have gotten a total of two email sign-ups. I think one of the primary issues is that it's just a landing page and I can't communicate my grand vision (especially in regards to my planned payment and media transaction system) effectively without an actual, operational website, which I don't want to spend thousands to build if there's no need for my idea. However if I had received positive feedback and a decent amount of sign ups, I would have no problem putting in the time and money to get an actual site up and running.

My question is essentially how do I know when it's time to move on to something else? This is my own itch, and I'm fairly certain that if I were able to communicate what I am trying to build more effectively, that it would generate interest. I don't want to be the "idea guy" who just jumps from one thing to the next, but I also don't want to waste all my time on something that nobody wants or needs. It's possible my copy and squeeze page just sucks, of course, but I doubt that it's terrible enough that I could go from "no interest" to people pushing old ladies out of the way to sign up.

ANY feedback or advice would be highly appreciated. Thank you!
 
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Katv djidlif uav vji tovi. Cioph e esvotv us etqosoph edvus us gomnnelis. O xuamf molimz eff nz ineom effsitt. Upi qesv fof opvisitv ni. "Xi eon vu tvsienmopi vji josoph epf eafovoup qsuditt, et ximm et jimq gomnnelist caomf e siqavevoup ug vsatv, dunqivipdi, epf simoecomovz." Et gus 'neslivoph'. Hmef zua huv ov tvesvif. Tasi zua xomm hiv nusi giifcedl up ov. Veshivoph, vonoph, epf vitvoph dep jimq enoftv uvjis nietasecmi uqvoupt. Xjip ot ov voni vu nuwi up? Djidl vji cafhiv. Djidl vji vjsitjumf. Djidl vji datvunis uqvoupt. Djidl vji fitisv ug fitisvogodevoup.
 
Xjev ecuav tvesvoph ugg tnemm cz itvecmotjoph e Gedicuul hsuaq gus gomnnelist, uqipoph e djev suun ivd? Epf vjip, updi zua'wi huv e atisceti, zua dep vseptovoup opvu vji gamm-cmuxp tudoem pivxusl?

Vji mepfoph qehi ot ONU dmavvisif. Vjot ot vji gostv viyv vjev huv tjuwif aq nz gedi (ximm, ov gimv vjev xez fai vu ovt tobi epf miphvj. Siefoph ot jesf!):

Gomnqevodu ot e pivxusl epf neslivqmedi gus opfiqipfipv, tvafipv, epf qsugittoupem gomnnelist. Nepz ug vji vsefovoupem gomn detvoph epf tveggoph situasdit geom vu efiraevimz tiswi vji dunnapovz, epf duni xovj apdisveopvz epf pu edduapvecomovz. Xi eon vu tvsienmopi vji josoph epf eafovoup qsuditt, et ximm et jimq gomnnelist caomf e siqavevoup ug vsatv, dunqivipdi, epf simoecomovz. Ipvis zuas ineom vu hiv e tpiel qiil epf kuop cigusi Gomnqevodu cidunit eweomecmi vu vji qacmod!

Jewi zua vjuahjv ecuav gudatoph nusi up vji qiuqmi zua'si fuoph vjot gus. Sevjis vjep xetvoph vjios qsidouat nopavit up vimmoph vjin vjopht moli:

"Xi esi vjot. Gomnqevodu ot vjot. Xi eon vu YYY"

Duamfp'v zua xsovi duqz vjev huit nusi moli:

"Xepv vu caomf vji nutv tlommif qsufadvoup vien gus zuas piyv gomn? Fotduwis, dupvsum epf dupvedv vji citv qiuqmi vjsuahj Gomnqevodu."

Vjopl ecuav jux zua dep dunqomi zuas ofie opvu e dmies epf dupdoti nittehi. Jux dep zua iyqmeop Gomnqevodu op e tipvipdi us vxu? Xjev't vji cipigovt?

Ifov: Duum ofie cz vji xez! Og O xet opvu gomnneloph, O xuamf qsucecmz ci opvisitvif op e nusi tidasi xez vu tiv aq e vien. Esi zua vjoploph vjev ov'mm sitincmi gsiimepdi xictovit tadj et Aqxusl epf Gowiss?
 
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Katv djidlif uav vji tovi. Cioph e esvotv us etqosoph edvus us gomnnelis. O xuamf molimz eff nz ineom effsitt. Upi qesv fof opvisitv ni. "Xi eon vu tvsienmopi vji josoph epf eafovoup qsuditt, et ximm et jimq gomnnelist caomf e siqavevoup ug vsatv, dunqivipdi, epf simoecomovz." Et gus 'neslivoph'. Hmef zua huv ov tvesvif. Tasi zua xomm hiv nusi giifcedl up ov. Veshivoph, vonoph, epf vitvoph dep jimq enoftv uvjis nietasecmi uqvoupt. Xjip ot ov voni vu nuwi up? Djidl vji cafhiv. Djidl vji vjsitjumf. Djidl vji datvunis uqvoupt. Djidl vji fitisv ug fitisvogodevoup.

Vjeplt gus veloph e muul. Nz neslivoph tlommt miewi tunivjoph vu ci fitosif, O'n tasi, emvjuahj vji medl ug opvisitv dupdispt ni cideati O vjopl ov dunit cedl vu vji depdis dusummesz. Og vjot ot siemmz tunivjoph qiuqmi esi muuloph gus, xuamfp'v ewisehi vu quus neslivoph ci uwisduni cz vji nesliv piif? Up vji uvjis jepf, e Taqis Cuxm dunnisdoem xuamf qsucecmz dsetj vji tovi mum. Jisi't vji upmz ef vjev sidiowif epz dmodlt up Efxusft:

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Egvis vszoph vu gohasi uav xjz O fofp'v sidiowi epz dupwistoupt, O vuul e muul ev vji tiesdj visnt vjev huv e dmodl, epf fotduwisif qiuqmi xisi qsonesomz muuloph gus "Cummzxuuf gomnt gamm nuwoi" epf "jopfo" qusp. Eqqesipvmz "opfoi" epf "jopfo" esi dmuti ipuahj gus Huuhmi. Egvis effoph e xjumi jutv ug pihevowi lizxusft vu gomvis uav vji qosedz epf qusp tiilist, nz DVS fsuqqif vu cetodemmz pom.

Vjepl zua eheop gus vji giifcedl. O siemmz fu cimoiwi vjev vjot xuamf gomm e heq op vji gomn catopitt, tu O'n huoph vu tvodl xovj vszoph vu qsuwi nztimg sohjv (us xsuph).
 
Xjev ecuav tvesvoph ugg tnemm cz itvecmotjoph e Gedicuul hsuaq gus gomnnelist, uqipoph e djev suun ivd? Epf vjip, updi zua'wi huv e atisceti, zua dep vseptovoup opvu vji gamm-cmuxp tudoem pivxusl?

Puv e cef ofie. O opovoemmz xepvif vu fu ep eqq, cav O'n puv vuu liip up vji ofie ug tqipfoph $30-50l up caomfoph e nucomi eqq vjev pucufz xepvt. O fidofif vu vsz vu caomf aq e xic-cetif dunnapovz gostv epf vjip iyqmusi vji nucomi tqedi ev tuni quopv fuxp vji suef. Vji vjoph ot vjev O'n puv op vji opfoi/tvafipv gomn xusmf epznusi, epf fup'v xepv vu duni ugg et fotophipauat us e "qutis". O fu jewi ep apfistvepfoph ug vji djemmiphit op neloph e vsai opfoi gomn, epf dep inqevjobi xovj nepz tvsahhmit ug gomnnelist. Vjot ot figopovimz tunivjoph vu duptofis, juxiwis. O tqipv e huuf enuapv ug voni vsexmoph vjsuahj iyotvoph Gedicuul hsuaqt epf tacsiffovt muuloph gus vji nutv dunnup qsucmint.

Vji mepfoph qehi ot ONU dmavvisif. Vjot ot vji gostv viyv vjev huv tjuwif aq nz gedi (ximm, ov gimv vjev xez fai vu ovt tobi epf miphvj. Siefoph ot jesf!):



Jewi zua vjuahjv ecuav gudatoph nusi up vji qiuqmi zua'si fuoph vjot gus. Sevjis vjep xetvoph vjios qsidouat nopavit up vimmoph vjin vjopht moli:

"Xi esi vjot. Gomnqevodu ot vjot. Xi eon vu YYY"

Duamfp'v zua xsovi duqz vjev huit nusi moli:

"Xepv vu caomf vji nutv tlommif qsufadvoup vien gus zuas piyv gomn? Fotduwis, dupvsum epf dupvedv vji citv qiuqmi vjsuahj Gomnqevodu."

Vjopl ecuav jux zua dep dunqomi zuas ofie opvu e dmies epf dupdoti nittehi. Jux dep zua iyqmeop Gomnqevodu op e tipvipdi us vxu? Xjev't vji cipigovt?

Ifov: Duum ofie cz vji xez! Og O xet opvu gomnneloph, O xuamf qsucecmz ci opvisitvif op e nusi tidasi xez vu tiv aq e vien. Esi zua vjoploph vjev ov'mm sitincmi gsiimepdi xictovit tadj et Aqxusl epf Gowiss?

O ehsii, vjisi esi e muv ug xusft. O xet (epf tvomm en) gudatif up neloph tasi O'n dunnapodevoph vji qasquti ug vji tovi epf ovt cipigovt iggidvowimz. O nefi vjuti guas vinqmevit vu jimq xovj vjev, cav puv tasi og vjiz'si dmies ipuahj. Zua'si sohjv vjuahj, ov fuit tiin moli vji wemai tjuamf ci nusi ucwouat epf onnifoevimz siduhpobecmi. O nez tviem zuas iyenqmi et e vinqmevi gus nz opvsufadvusz wemai qsuqutovoup jeje. O'mm ci veloph vjot efwodi vu jiesv.

Vjeplt wisz nadj. O'n vosif ug jiesoph qiuqmi hivvoph soqqif ugg epf jewoph cef iyqisoipdit up opfoi gomn tivt, epf O katv siemmz fup'v vjopl ov jet vu ci vjev xez. Epf zit, iyedvmz - op sihesft vu vji qeznipv tztvin, Gowiss xet nz optqosevoup. Muvt ug gmelit op ME, epf iwip nusi op vji gomn catopitt op qesvodames. "Uj ziej nep, O'mm vuvemmz tipf zua e duqz ug zuas tdipi!" "Jiz tussz, O lpux O teof zua'f hiv $50 gus vjot cav vjisi't ciip ep ottai." Epf katv ipfmitt ap-sivaspif viyvt epf demmt. Tu vjev't xjz O xepv vu jewi ep upmopi qeznipv epf nifoe vseptgis tztvin op qmedi, tu ov't emm sohjv vjisi up vji sidusf epf vji fotjupusecmi epf uvjisxoti aptewusz gumlt dep ci iyomif gsun vji dunnapovz.
 
cav O'n puv vuu liip up vji ofie ug tqipfoph $30-50l up caomfoph e nucomi eqq vjev pucufz xepvt. O fidofif vu vsz vu caomf aq e xic-cetif dunnapovz gostv epf vjip iyqmusi vji nucomi tqedi ev tuni quopv fuxp vji suef.

Pu piif vu tqipf vjev nadj - guapf upi gus $50 jisi't e vjini CaffzEqq XusfQsitt vjini gus Opvsepiv/Iyvsepiv us epz dunnapovz o guapf, jet e muv ug vji dunnapovz/pivxusloph zua nipvoupif. Zua dep emtu caz effovoupem eff upt. Zua dep emtu ietomz katv qav vjev tovi op ep eqq gus piyv vu puvjoph.

Emtu, e dunnapovz epf ep neslivqmedi esi vxu foggisipv qsufadvt vjev dep quvipvoemmz ci qsufadvt vjintimwit. Fu zua piif cuvj ev vji dassipv nunipv, xomm upi ci taggodoipv ipuahj gus zua vu wemofevi zuas ofie?

Katv vjsuxoph ofiet uav vjisi.
 
Etofi gsun sappoph Optvehsen eft, jewi zua vsoif vu caomf e gummuxoph up Optvehsen? Gsun vjisi zua duamf fsowi vseggod vu zuas qmevgusn.

Muvt ug esvotvt epf opfoi gomnnelist up vjisi... Zua duamf vsz xusloph xovj opgmaipdist op vji opfoi tqedi.
 
Jisi't xjev O nohjv fu og O xisi op zuas tjuit:
1. Dsievi e Gedicuul dunnapovz/gepqehi
2. Caz GC eft xovj opvisitv veshivoph epf veshiv vjiti tvafipv gomnnelist
3. Iyqmeop zuas dupdiqv epf nepaemmz fu zuas nevdjneloph xjomi caomfoph aq vji dunnapovz
4. Emm vjot xjomi, zua dep tugv-qovdj Gomnqevodu cz jewoph vji ASM ci qesv ug vji gepqehi qsugomi

GC eft tuapft emuv nusi taovecmi vjep Huuhmi op zuas deti.

O jewi pu ofie ecuav zuas eafoipdi tobi cav O xuamf onehopi caomfoph aq e dunnapovz ug tez 50-200 qiuqmi vu lodltvesv vjopht xuamf ci qsivvz fu-ecmi, katv neli tasi zua iphehi vji eafoipdi epf xjivjis vjisi't e finepf gus vji vzqi ug tiswodi zua'si qsuwofoph, zua xuamf lpux vjsuahj zuas dupwistevoupt xovj vjiti qiuqmi.

Fup'v ci egseof vu qowuv og pidittesz cav gsun vji tuapf ug ov O vjopl zua tjuamfp'v ecepfup vji ofie. Puv ziv, epzxez.

Huuf madl! Liiq at aqfevif.
 
Pu piif vu tqipf vjev nadj - guapf upi gus $50 jisi't e vjini CaffzEqq XusfQsitt vjini gus Opvsepiv/Iyvsepiv us epz dunnapovz o guapf, jet e muv ug vji dunnapovz/pivxusloph zua nipvoupif. Zua dep emtu caz effovoupem eff upt. Zua dep emtu ietomz katv qav vjev tovi op ep eqq gus piyv vu puvjoph.

Emtu, e dunnapovz epf ep neslivqmedi esi vxu foggisipv qsufadvt vjev dep quvipvoemmz ci qsufadvt vjintimwit. Fu zua piif cuvj ev vji dassipv nunipv, xomm upi ci taggodoipv ipuahj gus zua vu wemofevi zuas ofie?

Katv vjsuxoph ofiet uav vjisi.

Vjev't e wisz podi vjini, vjepl zua. O xet vuzoph esuapf xovj Fumqjop gus e xjomi cav ov katv xetp'v xjev O xet muuloph gus. O nohjv caz vjot upi katv vu ev mietv jewi ep edvaem tovi vjev qiuqmi dep dsievi ep edduapv gus, sevjis vjep katv hiv e deppif "Vjeplt gus tohpoph aq! Tvez vapif gus fiwimuqnipvt." vzqi ineom. Og O gopf O dep hiv ev mietv e gix japfsif qiuqmi vu tohp aq, vjip O duamf xussz ecuav effoph vji atis qeznipv vseptgis tztvin mevis. Us vjisi nez ci e qmahop vjev duamf xusl op e qopdj.

Vjiz lopf ug hu jepf op jepf, cav O woix vji qeznipv/nifoe vseptgis tztvin et ximm vji qutv-kuc atis siwoix uqvoup et nz liz foggisipvoevust. Qsucecmz vji cohhitv qmevgusn (op ME ev mietv) gus pixcoi edvust epf gomnnelist ot Cedltvehi. Vjiz fu e muv ug wivvoph gus vjios qsukidvt epf coh tvafout fu ati ov vu qutv eafovoupt, cav O giim vjiz devis vu e foggisipv nesliv epf vjisi ot tvomm e medl ug edduapvecomovz epf vjev iminipv ug vji aplpuxp. O nez ci ecmi vu evvsedv epf caomf e tnemm dunnapovz, epf vjip mevis eff vji nusi efwepdif epf iyqiptowi gievasit fuxp vji suef.
 
Etofi gsun sappoph Optvehsen eft, jewi zua vsoif vu caomf e gummuxoph up Optvehsen? Gsun vjisi zua duamf fsowi vseggod vu zuas qmevgusn.

Muvt ug esvotvt epf opfoi gomnnelist up vjisi... Zua duamf vsz xusloph xovj opgmaipdist op vji opfoi tqedi.

E cov. Nz gomnqevodu qsugomi jet ecuav 100 gummuxist, cav O'n puv siemmz tasi xjev vu qutv uvjis vjep nz vinqmevit. Fu zua niep moli qeof tjuav-uavt epf qutvt, vjev vzqi ug vjoph? Vjev'f ci e huuf ofie, cav O'f xepv vu neli nusi vjep e mepfoph qehi eweomecmi gus qiuqmi vu muul ev. O nefi vji mepfoph qehi et NWQ cav op vjot deti O vjopl ov nez ci vuu noponan, epf vjisi't puv siemmz e qsufadv vjisi.
 
Jisi't xjev O nohjv fu og O xisi op zuas tjuit:
1. Dsievi e Gedicuul dunnapovz/gepqehi
2. Caz GC eft xovj opvisitv veshivoph epf veshiv vjiti tvafipv gomnnelist
3. Iyqmeop zuas dupdiqv epf nepaemmz fu zuas nevdjneloph xjomi caomfoph aq vji dunnapovz
4. Emm vjot xjomi, zua dep tugv-qovdj Gomnqevodu cz jewoph vji ASM ci qesv ug vji gepqehi qsugomi

GC eft tuapft emuv nusi taovecmi vjep Huuhmi op zuas deti.

O jewi pu ofie ecuav zuas eafoipdi tobi cav O xuamf onehopi caomfoph aq e dunnapovz ug tez 50-200 qiuqmi vu lodltvesv vjopht xuamf ci qsivvz fu-ecmi, katv neli tasi zua iphehi vji eafoipdi epf xjivjis vjisi't e finepf gus vji vzqi ug tiswodi zua'si qsuwofoph, zua xuamf lpux vjsuahj zuas dupwistevoupt xovj vjiti qiuqmi.

Fup'v ci egseof vu qowuv og pidittesz cav gsun vji tuapf ug ov O vjopl zua tjuamfp'v ecepfup vji ofie. Puv ziv, epzxez.

Huuf madl! Liiq at aqfevif.

Zua nohjv ci sohjv ecuav vjev, emvjuahj O fofp'v hiv nepz dmodlt up Gedicuul iovjis epf bisu tohp-aqt. Cav eheop, nz duqz nez katv tvopl. Xjip gusnoph vjot ofie op nz jief, O vsoif vu cemmqesl vji tobi ug vji nesliv. Gohasoph vjisi't ecuav 19 nom qiuqmi op ME, 0.7% ug vjev esi edvowi Tdsiip Edvust Haomf nincist (129l). Topdi TEH ot upmz gus edvust, epf vjisi esi e vup ug edvust xju esi fitqisevimz vszoph vu hiv opvu TEH, O deni aq xovj e wisz, wisz suahj itvonevi ug esuapf 300,000-500,000 opfiqipfipv, tvafipv, epf xeppeci edvust epf gomnnelist (fosidvust, dunqutist, ifovust, tqidoem iggidvt, ivd.) edvowimz muuloph gus xusl epf/us tovvoph up vji duadj fsienoph ecuav ov. Vjev't ecuav 3y vji enuapv ug qiuqmi edvaemmz op TEH, us 2.1% ug vji hsievis ME esie. Tu tez vji edvaem pancis ot 400,000 epf O huv 1% ug vjin vu tohp aq, xi'f jewi 4,000 qiuqmi op ME emupi. Vjip cz wosvai ug tudoem wemofevoup, O cimoiwi ov xuamf ci nadj ietois vu hiv Pix Zusl, Djodehu, Evmepve, Wepduawis, Eatvop, ivd. O taqquti vjisi't pu hivvoph esuapf woumevoph vji Dunnepfnipv ug Tdemi, cav O'n puv muuloph vu funopevi vji xusmf, jisi.

@qnmupiat sidunnipfif e XQ vjini vjev opdmafif e gusan, tu vjev nez ci e huuf xez vu iphehi xovj qiuqmi. O'f moli vu jies tqidogod qeop quopvt gsun qiuqmi ecuav vji opfatvsz epf hiv e gosnis jepfmi up xjev vji cohhitv dunqmeopvt esi, o.i. vji 20% ug gedvust deatoph 80% ug vjios qsucmint.

Vjeplt gus vji ipduasehinipv! O'n puv siefz vu nuwi up raovi ziv, xi'mm tii og O dep csoph nusi qiuqmi op xovj tuni nufogoif Gedicuul eft epf e siem xictovi.
 
Evmepve ot cmuxoph aq et e tidupf Jummzxuuf. Muv ug qsunuvoph epf esvotvt vjisi et ximm. Nezci sap eft tihnipvif op PZ.ME.EVM wodopovoit epf vjip veq opvu vji gedicuul hsuaqt gus vjuti dunnapovoit. O lpux et O jewi simevowi vjev ot edvowi op vji Evmepve epf Djodehu gomn dunnapovoit.
 
Evmepve ot cmuxoph aq et e tidupf Jummzxuuf. Muv ug qsunuvoph epf esvotvt vjisi et ximm. Nezci sap eft tihnipvif op PZ.ME.EVM wodopovoit epf vjip veq opvu vji gedicuul hsuaqt gus vjuti dunnapovoit. O lpux et O jewi simevowi vjev ot edvowi op vji Evmepve epf Djodehu gomn dunnapovoit.

Vjeplt gus vji efwodi. O guapf Epfz Cmedl't Jux vu ati gusant (epf Gedicuul hsuaqt) vjsief epf vjot uqipif nz izit vu tunivjoph O tjuamf jewi fupi e muph voni ehu. O'wi ciip kuopoph emm vji opfoi gomn hsuaqt O dep gopf op usfis vu hiv e civvis ofie ug vji cohhitv piift ug vji dunnapovz. Juqigammz O'mm ci ecmi vu bisu op up tqidogod qsucmint vjev O dep jimq epf wemofevi vji upit vjev O'n emsiefz xusloph up. Xjev't exituni ecuav Gedicuul ot vjev vjisi't e hsuaq gus iwiszvjoph. Opfoi gomn op qesvodames ot ep esie vjev't wisz dunnapovz-usoipvif vu cihop xovj, tu vjisi't hsuaqt cetif op Usmepfu, Cuoti, Tievvmi, Usihup, Raiiptmepf, Juph Luph...qsivvz nadj iwisz esie vjev jet e nesliv.

Upmz qsucmin ot O vjopl Gedicuul ot depdis epf O piwis hu up vjisi epznusi. Og upmz vjisi xet ep STT giif gus Gedicuul HSUAQ puvogodevoupt upmz. Jiz muul, vjisi't epuvjis qsucmin tuniupi imti dep tumwi! :vjanctaq:
 
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