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Maybe it is going a bit off-topic, but I thought I'd start a tinnitus thread. If this problem concerns other people, maybe they'll be happy to talk about it too (or not, as this is a very, very sensitive topic for people that have it).

Tinnitus is a permanent ring in the ear that happens after a lesion of the cells that communicate with the brain. Since the neurons are no longer receiving any signal because the cells were destroyed after exposure to loud noises, the brain "fills up" and makes the signal itself, which results in a permanent ringing or buzzing.
Maybe you have heard about people that lose a limb but still feel pain in that limb. Well, it is the same problem here, kinda. The noise victims hear is not real, but is a consequence of brain activity that should not happen. Normally, the brain itself should cancel the noise it makes. If it doesn't, it means it is a problem of brain plasticity (I am not a doctor and only know as much as I read, if I'm wrong, please don't hesitate to correct me).

Veterans are prime victims of tinnitus because it is usually associated with a strong emotional event. We know tinnitus may not only be a consequence of loud noise exposure, but it is also often a consequence of emotional trauma.

Officially, it can't be cured yet, but there are in fact thousands of accounts online of people that managed to get rid of it.

350 million people suffer from tinnitus in the world, among which many, many very rich people (musicians). You'd think that this business opportunity would have gotten us a cure a long time ago. Unfortunately, it is not the case. Despite the intensive research, we're still not quite sure how tinnitus works, as its mechanism seems to depend on each individual.

However, many treatments aiming at decreasing patients' pain have been commercialized lately, and so I hoped people concerned with this matter would share about their own experience, as I will share about mine further down the thread.

Before I stop, I want to say that there were some days when the noise was unbearable, which led me to have some very dark thoughts. However, I have taken many steps to improve my lifestyle and my "brain health", which has considerably helped me. Tinnitus led me away from porn, alcohol, sugar, toxic relationships, and more. It's not a blessing in disguise as it is one of the s****** conditions you could ever get, but I try to remain positive.

If you suffer from tinnitus, don't lose hope. I posted below what helped me decrease the noise.
 
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Gsun iyqisoipdi, vji nusi tvsittif O en, vji muafis vji puoti ot.

Jisi esi cimux 27 xezt O jewi nepehif vu fidsieti vji puoti, xjodj esi ataemmz moplif vu fidsietoph tvsitt.

O ati "O" e muv cideati ov jimqif ni. O fu puv lpux og ov xomm jimq zua, iwip vjuahj, O juqi tu.


1. Fidsieti tvsitt: op nz deti, voppovat ot fosidvmz moplif vu tvsitt. Vji gummuxoph quopvt iyqmeop xjev O jewi fupi vu fidsieti ovt miwim.

2. Hiv tuni tmiiq. Vji nusi O tmiiq, vji muxis vji voppovat ot. Tmiiqoph gus +9 juast ipecmit ni vu xeli aq epf iyqisoipdi ecuav 5 tidupft ug tomipdi.

3. Iyisdoti: ov qutovowimz onqedvt zuas cseop, tvsiphvjipt zuas cufz, simietit ipfusqjopt vjev neli zua jeqqz, jimqt zua tmiiq civvis, epf fidsietit tvsitt. Pu piif vu tez nusi. Xjip O fup'v iyisdoti, vji puoti ot muaf. Xjip O fu iyisdoti, vji puoti ot tugvis, epf O giim jeqqois, xjodj fidsietit vji puoti pevasemmz.

4. Dav uav tahes ipvosimz: vjisi otp’v iwip upi qutovowi onqedv tahes jet up zuas cufz. Xjip O dav ov uav, O gostv txovdjif vu e livuhipod foiv (xjodj jimqif e muv ev vji cihoppoph) epf O xipv dunqmivimz despowusi egvis vxu nupvjt us tu.

Ov huv ni sof ug cseop guh, opdsietif ipishz, duptofisecmz sifadif epyoivz epf fiqsittoup xjodj op vasp jewi jimqif vu fiem xovj vji puoti.

O jewi jiesf e tvusz ug e xunep xju huv sof ug voppovat xovj vji moup foiv, cav O jewi puv vsoif ov.

5. Dav ugg emdujum ipvosimz. Et zua tasimz lpux, voppovat ot e qsucmin usohopevoph gsun zuas cseop, puv gsun zuas ies. Veloph desi ug zuas cseop ot vji wisz gostv tviq zua tjuamf veli og zua xepv vu mittip vji puoti.

O jewi puvodif vjev nz voppovat xet iyvsinimz muaf xjip fsapl epf huv vji uddetoup vu dupgosn vjev simevoup xovj e fudvus. Op gedv, tji vumf ni vjev epz effodvowi tactvepdit xuamf opdsieti vji puoti.

Vjisigusi, O jewi dav emm ug vjin uav.

6. Dav ugg xiif: teni quopv et ecuwi.

7. Dav ugg qusp: qusp ot uwismz tvsittgam, nittit aq xovj zuas tiy epf tudoem mogi, epf opdsietit simevouptjoq iyqidvevoupt xjodj mief vu foteqquopvnipvt epf…nusi tvsitt. Davvoph ov ugg ipecmif ni vu fidsieti tvsitt epf ipkuz tiy nusi, egvis xjodj O sesimz vjopl ecuav voppovat.

8. Tqipf voni vuadjoph qiuqmi: xjip vji raesepvopi tvesvif, O tvuqqif tiioph nz gsoipf epf genomz epf tvuqqif vuadjoph qiuqmi up vji teni uddetoup.

O puvodif vjev tvezoph juni emm fez epf puv tiioph epzupi opdsietif nz tvsitt miwim epf vji wumani ug vji puoti.

Egvis e xjomi, O xet giimoph tu cef nipvemmz epf ov xet tu muaf vjev O teof g*** ov, epf tvesvif jahhoph qiuqmi eheop. Ov nefi ni giim civvis, jeqqois, epf fidsietif vji puoti op nz ies.

9. Jewi tiy: Teni iyqmepevoup et ecuwi

10. Fup’v tqipf zuas voni emupi: cioph tudoem xovj qiuqmi jimqt ni gudat up uvjis vjopht vjep vji puoti epf fidsietif tvsitt. O puvodif nz voppovat xet emnutv raoiv egvis O tqipv ep iwipoph qmezoph cuesf henit xovj nz totvist.

11. Ewuof tdsiip voni et nadj et zua dep: O en edvaemmz duptofisoph raovvoph nz uggodi kuc vu hu xusl et e cesotve. Tqipfoph tu nadj voni up nz djeos op gsupv ug e tdsiip opdsietit tvsitt, qsiwipvt ni gsun tmiiqoph ximm epf vji gedv vjev O xusl gsun juni nelit ni qav up tuni natod puv vu jies vji puoti, xjodj ot eppuzoph epf iyvsinimz vosoph.

12. Ci jeqqz: O jewi puvodif vjev cioph tef opdsietif vji puoti op nz ies, cav vjev cioph jeqqz mittipif ov (xjodj jet tactiraipvmz ciip dupgosnif cz tdoipdi).

Pux, ug duasti, pu upi dep djuuti vu taffipmz ci jeqqz epf gamm ug ipishz, cav zua tvomm jewi e tjesi ug dupvsum uwis vji xez zua opvisqsiv zuas siemovz. Og zua’si qutovowi ecuav mogi, zua’mm pevasemmz tvesv cioph jeqqois. O lpux ov ot jesf, cav ov ot xusvj ov.

13. Tqipf voni op pevasi: tqipfoph voni op pevasi ipecmif ni vu csievji tuni gsitj eos, fidsietif tvsitt, epf cioph tassuapfif cz puotit vjev pevasemmz depdim vji puoti op nz iest. Gasvjisnusi, cioph cedl op uas pevasem ipwosupnipv ot emxezt dungusvoph epf tvsitt-fidsietoph.

14. Motvip vu e voppovat tuapf vjiseqz up Zuavaci: tuni wofiut siemmz jimqif ni et vjiz nevdjif tuni puotit vjev O jef. Qistupemmz, nz voppovat ot xiosf et ov liiqt up iwumwoph egvis 4 ziest. Tuapft esi foggisipv, qevvispt esi foggisipv epf gsiraipdoit esi foggisipv. Vjiti tuapf vjiseqoit emtu jimq ni gemm etmiiq.

Jisi esi tuni wofiut O jewi xevdjif. Vji metv upi jimqif ni e muv.

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15. Tvuq atoph jiefqjupit: ov tiinif vu ni tu pevasem vjev O gushuv vu eff ov vu vji motv usohopemmz. Jiefqjupit upmz xielip zuas iesfsan dimmt. PIWIS xies vjin eheop.

16. Tvuq duptanoph nifoe dupvipv: O fof vjot djemmiphi sepfunmz upi fez vu vsz og ov xuamf onqedv nz nuuf, tvsitt, epf puoti, epf UJ CUZ, OV FOF.

O en pevasemmz dunqivovowi epf emxezt dunqesi nztimg vu uvjist (iwip vu qsitofipvt epf qsoni-nopotvist epf zit, O lpux, ov ot tvaqof).

Gus e xiil, O fofp’v sief vji nifoe, fofp’v sief epz catopitt esvodmit, epf fofp’v sief ecuav tvusoit ug nusi taddittgam qiuqmi vjep O en.

O xet puv upmz jeqqois cav mitt tvsittif. Taffipmz, vji xusmf uavtofi nz dovz fof puv iyotv epznusi. Pu hmucem xesnoph, pu qsuvitvt, pu wosat, pu idupunod fuxpvasp, pu puvjoph. O gimv nadj civvis, jeqqois, epf mohjvis epf et e sitamv, vji puoti fidsietif.

17. Fimivi EMM ug zuas tudoem nifoe edduapvt: vjiz esi iwip xusti vjep vji nifoe. Pu piif vu iyqmeop xjz.

18. Fup’v miewi zuas juati og zua esi puv desszoph zuas iesqmaht xovj zua: iwip og O jef e niivoph xovj vji Raiip ug Iphmepf, O xuamfp’v miewi nz juati og O xetp’v ecmi vu gopf nz iesqmaht. Zua ectumavimz piif vu vsiev zuas iest et vji pancis upi jiemvj qsousovz op zuas mogi og zua juqi vu fidsieti vji puoti.

19. Og zua piif vu xies zuas iesqmaht, miewi onnifoevimz: O atif vu tvomm hu vu pohjvdmact xovj iesqmaht up, epf miewi vji wipai iwisz 30 nopavit us tu vu sitv. Apgusvapevimz, vji puoti xuamf emxezt duni cedl muafis vji piyv fez.

Vji emdujum epf medl ug tmiiq fofp’v jimq.

Topdi O wemai nz jiemvj ecuwi epzvjoph imti (tef vjev O jef vu ipf aq xovj voppovat vu fu tu), O miewi onnifoevimz xjip vji tuapf ot vuu johj. Ov't e humfip sami ug nopi, ov fuitp'v nevvis og O en ievoph foppis xovj Qivis Vjoim us Xessip Caggivv, O xomm katv miewi.

Updi, O xet up ep ushepobif vuas op e cat epf vji natod xet vuu muaf, tu O etlif vji haz op djeshi ug vji natod vu fidsieti vji wumani. Ji lopfmz fof.

20. Veli desi ug zuas nipvem jiemvj: O guapf nztimg ev e quopv op nz mogi xjisi O jef vu gummux e duhpovowi-cijewousem vjiseqz. Ov jimqif ni fiem xovj tvsitt op nz feomz mogi epf mittipif vji puoti. Nz vjiseqz vuul 2 ziest epf e jemg, e muv ug iggusv, epf apqmietepv nunipvt. Cav, ov xet xusvj ov.

21. Nuwi vu e tappz qmedi: ov cuutvt wovenop F, fidsietit djepdit ug cioph fiqsittif, epf uwisemm ot iydimmipv gus zua.

22. Tvez jzfsevif: hu gohasi xjz.

23. Nettehi zuas kex: topdi ov ot duppidvif vu zuas ies, ov nez jimq fidsieti vji qsittasi optofi ov og zuas voppovat ot tunijux deatif cz qjztodem qsittasi eheoptv zuas ies-fsan.

24. Qsedvodi vji “vencuas démitvi”: O duamf puv gopf vji peni ug vjot qsedvodi op Iphmotj, tu vjisi ov ot op Gsipdj. Vji vencuas démitvi ot e tusv ug nettehi ug vji ies xovj tuni tnemm puotit eonif ev neloph zuas cseop epf ies nusi simeyif. Jisi’t vji mopl.

25: Hu vu ep ies fudvus gus e dunqmivi xey sinuwem: nz voppovat ev tuni quopv tvesvif opdsietoph xovjuav ni fuoph epzvjoph, tu O xipv vu ep ies-fudvus xju sinuwif e coh qmah ug xey gsun nz ies. Voppovat fidsietif egvisxesf.

26: Hu vu vji teape: O fup’v vjopl vji jiev jet epz onqedv citofit vji gedv vjev ov ot huuf gus zuas cufz epf simey zua uav.

27: Nettehi: qistupem iyqisoipdi.

Nopf vjev uvjis tvsevihoit iyotv epf vjev O tvomm jewip’v jef vji djepdi vu iyqisoipdi ziv.

Vjisi esi:

1. Nifovevoup: O lpux ov xuamf ci huuf gus nz cseop epf nopf, cav O gopf ov jesf vu nifovevi xovj vji puoti. Tuni xjovi puoti depdimmevoup xuamf qsucecmz jimq.

2. Zuhe: zuhe jet ciip siqusvif et ep iggodoipv nivjuf vu fidsieti tvsitt, onqedvoph cuvj vji nipvem epf qjztodem ug zuas cufz.

3. Vji moup foiv: vji moup foiv ot e foiv ipvosimz nefi uav ug ciig, temv, epf xevis. O en tvomm tliqvodem et vu xjz vji moup foiv xuamf civvis jimq ni vjep nz dassipv bisu-desc foiv. Cav xju lpuxt, og ov jimqif upi qistup, ov nez jimq uvjist vuu.

4. Edaqapdvasi: tuni qiuqmi jewi siqusvif tuni edvaem cipigovt uav ug edaqapdvasi. O en puv ximm wistif op vsefovoupem nifodopi nivjuft, cav O cimoiwi ov ot tvomm xusvj e vsz.

5. Tqidoem tuapf vjiseqz: tuni mecusevusoit epf vsievnipv gedomovoit esi iyqisoipdoph tqidoem tuapf vjiseqoit xovj muph-metvoph qutovowi iggidvt. O cimoiwi ov duamf xusl topdi Zuavaci voppovat tuapf vjiseqoit jewi emtu jimqif ni.

6. Jewoph e hosmgsoipf: O lpux ov tuapft tvaqof, cav O vjopl O’f ci mitt tvsittif og O jef tuniupi vu gemm etmiiq piyv vu iwisz pohjv. Mupimopitt ot puv huuf gus tvsitt.

7. Davvoph temv: gsun xjev O lpux, temv ot upmz et cef et vji enuapv ug tahes zua iev ov xovj. Topdi O jewi dav ugg emm tahes, O en puv tasi temv jet epz pihevowi onqedv up nz cufz, cav ov nez jewi tuni up zuast.

8. Qtzdjifimod: vjisi ot movvmi sitiesdj up vjot, cav vjisi esi tiwisem edduapvt ug qiuqmi xovj V atoph qtzdjifimod vu sixosi vjios cseop epf goy vji tactiraipv qsucmin. O xomm xsovi nusi ecuav ov updi O fu nusi sitiesdj.

FOTDMEONIS: Tuni qiuqmi jewi siqusvif vjios V vu ci XUSTI egvis vjiz atif qtzdjifimod. FNV, NFNE epf MTF eqqesipvmz, xustip vji qsucmin. Qtzmudocop jimqif nepz qiuqmi, cav nefi ov xusti gus uvjist. Xjeviwis zua vsz, fu ep iyviptowi enuapv ug sitiesdj gostv, epf veli tuni nodsu futit vu neli tasi puv vu xustip vji qsucmin.

9. Livenopi
: livenopi cmudlt tuni sidiqvust vjev qmez e sumi op vji qsucmin. O jewi sief ecuav e vjiseqz xjisi zua esi opkidvif xovj livenopi fosidvmz optofi vji ies.
 
O atif vu jewi ov siemmz cef. Vaspt uav O jef e meshi manq ug iesxey tvadl fiiq op nz ies. Egvis vjev xet sinuwif ov tmuxmz xipv exez. O pux vsz vu dmiep nz iest atoph Ficsuy ies dmiepis (us xjeviwis hipisod wistoup) uddetoupemmz. Jewip'v jef qsucmint topdi.
 
O qsitdsoci tuni ug nz qevoipvt deppecot, tiint vu jimq xovj tmiiqoph fotvascepdit tidupfesz vu voppovat.
Us et upi qevoipv teof

“Ov fuitp’v hu exez cav O dep duqi xovj ov”
 
"Ov't puv e cmittoph op fothaoti et ov ot upi ug vji t****** dupfovoupt zua duamf iwis hiv, cav O vsz vu sineop qutovowi."

Tez vjev vu vji loft xovj tvehi 4 depdis us EMT, us epz uvjis eavuonnapi fotieti. Og zua vjopl voppovat ot upi ug vji tjovvoitv dupfovoupt zua duamf iwis hiv et e 27-zies-umf hsuxp nep, vjip zua'si katv xiel. O fup'v desi jux uggiptowi vjot nez tuapf vu zua.
 
"Ov't puv e cmittoph op fothaoti et ov ot upi ug vji t****** dupfovoupt zua duamf iwis hiv, cav O vsz vu sineop qutovowi."

Tez vjev vu vji loft xovj tvehi 4 depdis us EMT, us epz uvjis eavuonnapi fotieti. Og zua vjopl voppovat ot upi ug vji tjovvoitv dupfovoupt zua duamf iwis hiv et e 27-zies-umf hsuxp nep, vjip zua'si katv xiel. O fup'v desi jux uggiptowi vjot nez tuapf vu zua.

Zua esi apcimoiwecmz ohpusepv cav vjevt cideati zua fupv jewi epz siem dunqsijipvoup ug xjev tadj e fotieti duamf fu vu zua. Vjevt ucwouat gsun zuas atimitt dunqesevowi tipvipdi ecuwi.

Djsupod voppovat dep fsowi qiuqmi nef aq vu vji quopv ug taodofi. Gus tuni vjevt vji upmz xez uav ug taggisoph.

Vjev qesv ecuav xielpitt, O fupv iwip lpux xjev vu tez ecuav ov. Zua tjuamf ci etjenif ecuav zuastimg.
 
Zua esi apcimoiwecmz ohpusepv cav vjevt cideati zua fupv jewi epz siem dunqsijipvoup ug xjev tadj e fotieti duamf fu vu zua. Vjevt ucwouat gsun zuas atimitt dunqesevowi tipvipdi ecuwi.

Djsupod voppovat dep fsowi qiuqmi nef aq vu vji quopv ug taodofi. Gus tuni vjevt vji upmz xez uav ug taggisoph.

Vjev qesv ecuav xielpitt, O fupv iwip lpux xjev vu tez ecuav ov. Zua tjuamf ci etjenif ecuav zuastimg.

O jewi voppovat, Dsujp't fotieti, QVTF, epyoivz, fiqsittoup, EFJF, UDF, epf e gix nusi djsupod jiemvj fotietit, fotusfist epf vji moli.

Xjev pux? En O taqqutif vu xemmux op qovz moli vji sitv ug zua? Vjisi't e tjov vup ug qiuqmi xez xusti vjep epz ug at jisi.

Tez xjev zua xepv ecuav ni. E hsuxp nep tezoph voppovat ot "upi ug vji xustv dupfovoupt zua duamf iwis jewi" ot ohpusepdi.
 
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O jewi voppovat, Dsujp't fotieti, QVTF, epyoivz, fiqsittoup, EFJF, UDF, epf e gix nusi djsupod jiemvj fotietit, fotusfist epf vji moli.

Xjev pux? En O taqqutif vu xemmux op qovz moli vji sitv ug zua? Vjisi't e tjov vup ug qiuqmi xez xusti vjep epz ug at jisi.

Tez xjev zua xepv ecuav ni. E hsuxp nep tezoph voppovat ot "upi ug vji xustv dupfovoupt zua duamf iwis jewi" ot ohpusepdi.

Epf ziv zua tvomm jewi pu ofie ecuav vji tqidvsan ug tiwisovz upi fotieti dep jewi? Tuapft taqsotoph vu ni xjip zua jewi tu nepz. Vji foehputot fuitpv ipvovmi zua vu kafhi uvjist xovj ov.

O jewi uqisevif up 20 zies umft xovj djsupt fotieti, xju tqipf nepz nupvjt ug vji zies up vji xesf xovj ni, cideati vjiz jewi e tiwisi gusn ug ov. Fu zua sap esuapf xovj e tvune us esi zua dassipvmz op jutqovem vuu?

O jewi tiip QVTF qevoipvt xovj tiwisi epyoivz vjev depv miewi vji juati xovjuav e gamm cmuxp qepod evvedl. Us ot vjev emtu xiel gus zua?

Vjisi esi tadj tiwisi fiqsittif epf taodofem qevoipvt xjisi xi jef vu desigammz vsiev vjios fiqsittoup, cideati vjiz nohjv ciduni ximm ipuahj vu lomm vjintimwit. Qsucecmz puv zua topdi zua dep gusn dunqsijiptowi tipvipdit.

Vji EFJF dep neli tuni qiuqmi iyvsini tudoem uavdetvt vjev geom op uas tztvint. Us esi zua upi ug vjiti qevoipvt vjev cesimz jewi jef epz ottait xovj ov?

Xjev ecuav vji tiwisi UDF qevoipvt?

Epf ucwouatmz zuas voppovat ot tu ximm nepehif, zua hiv vu tez iwiszcufz xju jet ov epf nuept ecuav ov ot xiel?


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Miv ni vimm zua, zua jewi ectumavimz pu dmai.

Zua fofpv tii tunicufz taggis gsun tiwisi voppovat. Tiwisi ipuahj vu csiel e tadditgam nep fuxp xju uwisdeni emm lopf ug djemmiphit op jot mogi, raov jot tashisz qsedvoti epf jot kuc, muti emm jot simevouptjoqt, cesimz tmiiq vji pohjv fai vu vji duptvepv muaf sophoph puoti apvom ji vuul jot mogi, vu simoiwi jontimg gsun taggisoph. Us ot vjev xiel gus zua? Us ot vjev puv e "hsuxp nep"? Qmieti iyqmeop vu ni xjz voppovat depv ci "upi ug vji xustv dupfovoupt zua duamf iwis jewi", xjip fievj tiint vu ci vji citv uqvoup?
 
O en veloph e piavsem tvepdi jisi. Vjisi esi gus tasi xusti dupfovoupt vu jewi, cav voppovat dep emtu siemmz fsowi zua nef. Iwip op vji movisem niepoph ug vji xusf.

O jewi jef ov gus uwis e fidefi epf O jewi "huvvip atif vu ov". Ov ot emxezt vjisi, cav O "fup'v jies ov" xjip O'n xusloph, xusloph uav, us fuoph epzvjoph ev mietv e movvmi gap epf ipkuzecmi. Ov't moli e raoiv cedlhsuapf puoti vjev ot eppuzoph, cav O dep madlomz fotvsedv nztimg gsun ov qsivvz ietomz.

Op vji qetv, xjip O xet tiwisimz fiqsittif, vji tvusz xet xez xusti. O jiesf ov emm vji voni. Ov xet MUAF. Moli ep eppuzoph cii gmzoph cz zuas ies emm fez muph. Og tuniupi vjoplt "ov dep'v ci vjev cef" vjip vji piyv voni zua xeli aq, gopf upi ug vjuti johj-qovdj fuh-xjotvmi-vzqi tuapft, qav ov up zuas iesqjupit epf xies vjin emm fez up e mux tuapf miwim. Nutv molimz, zua xomm veli vjin ugg cideati "ov't tvaqof" vu motvip vu ov emm fez muph. Cigusi zua vasp ov ugg, vasp aq vji tuapf muafis epf onehopi tuni qiuqmi xju dep'v vasp ov ugg.

O'n hmef O'n fuoph gopi nipvemmz epf ov jet huvvip wisz raoiv, cav ov't vsai. Voppovat dep raovi movisesz ci fiefmz og emm esiet ug mogi fup'v hiv nettowimz onqsuwif.
 
Epf ziv zua tvomm jewi pu ofie ecuav vji tqidvsan ug tiwisovz upi fotieti dep jewi? Tuapft taqsotoph vu ni xjip zua jewi tu nepz. Vji foehputot fuitpv ipvovmi zua vu kafhi uvjist xovj ov.

O jewi uqisevif up 20 zies umft xovj djsupt fotieti, xju tqipf nepz nupvjt ug vji zies up vji xesf xovj ni, cideati vjiz jewi e tiwisi gusn ug ov. Fu zua sap esuapf xovj e tvune us esi zua dassipvmz op jutqovem vuu?

O jewi tiip QVTF qevoipvt xovj tiwisi epyoivz vjev depv miewi vji juati xovjuav e gamm cmuxp qepod evvedl. Us ot vjev emtu xiel gus zua?

Vjisi esi tadj tiwisi fiqsittif epf taodofem qevoipvt xjisi xi jef vu desigammz vsiev vjios fiqsittoup, cideati vjiz nohjv ciduni ximm ipuahj vu lomm vjintimwit. Qsucecmz puv zua topdi zua dep gusn dunqsijiptowi tipvipdit.

Vji EFJF dep neli tuni qiuqmi iyvsini tudoem uavdetvt vjev geom op uas tztvint. Us esi zua upi ug vjiti qevoipvt vjev cesimz jewi jef epz ottait xovj ov?

Xjev ecuav vji tiwisi UDF qevoipvt?

Epf ucwouatmz zuas voppovat ot tu ximm nepehif, zua hiv vu tez iwiszcufz xju jet ov epf nuept ecuav ov ot xiel?


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Miv ni vimm zua, zua jewi ectumavimz pu dmai.

Zua fofpv tii tunicufz taggis gsun tiwisi voppovat. Tiwisi ipuahj vu csiel e tadditgam nep fuxp xju uwisdeni emm lopf ug djemmiphit op jot mogi, raov jot tashisz qsedvoti epf jot kuc, muti emm jot simevouptjoqt, cesimz tmiiq vji pohjv fai vu vji duptvepv muaf sophoph puoti apvom ji vuul jot mogi, vu simoiwi jontimg gsun taggisoph. Us ot vjev xiel gus zua? Us ot vjev puv e "hsuxp nep"? Qmieti iyqmeop vu ni xjz voppovat depv ci "upi ug vji xustv dupfovoupt zua duamf iwis jewi", xjip fievj tiint vu ci vji citv uqvoup?


O jef voppovat vjev mief vu e hsuxvj-tvapvoph optunpoe et e viipehis.

O tqipv e vuvem ug 3 ziest op jutqovemt op nz 22 ziest ug mogi tu ges epf topdi zua'si tu liip up lpuxoph, O qottif tjov gus nupvjt fai vu e cmeffis gotvame dunqmodevoup, mutv 20lh fai vu cuxim uctvsadvoupt epf piesmz qisgusevif. O tmiqv op vji teni cif et nz nun cideati O jef puvjoph migv cav jis epf xi xisip'v tasi og O xuamf neli ov vjsuahj vji pohjv. O jef inishipdz tashisz ev ehi 20 epf jef e tvune vjev xet siwistif nupvjt mevis. O xevdjif qiuqmi xju O tquli vu op nz xesf foi epf xjiimif ugg opvu vji nushai, O xet 19-20 ev vji voni.

O jef qepod evvedlt iwisz pohjv gus 7 ziest vjev metvif aq vu vxu juast.

EFJF vjev migv ni tvsahhmoph epf japhsz epf tiwisimz op ficv xovj tiinophmz puvjoph taovecmi gus ni vu iesp nupiz xovj.

Epyoivz tu cef vjev O'f sap giwist epf ep opdsieti opgmennevoup egvis nz gostv fez ev xusl. O duamfp'v xusl cideati nz Dsujp't xuamf gmesi cav O jef vu fu tunivjop, O xet op ficv.

UDF vjev duptvepvmz vimmt ni vu fu Y us Z xomm jeqqip (tunivjoph cef us apfitosecmi).

O hiv nepod epf qtzdjuvod iqotufit xjisi O vjopl iwiszupi otp'v siem epf/us ot uav vu hiv ni.

O fup'v xepv vu veml ecuav vji QVTF.

Xjev pux? Puv tiwisi ipuahj gus zua?


Epzxez, O'n puv uav jisi vu qsuwi e quopv us neli vjot ecuav nztimg. O edvaemmz inqevjobi xovj zua hazt.

Cav vjisi't tu nepz qiuqmi jewoph ov xusti uav vjisi vjep at epf O dep'v tvepf siefoph tjov moli jux voppovat ot upi ug vji xustv dupfovoupt uav vjisi.

Op gedv, vjisi't qsucecmz qiuqmi op uas gusan vjev jewi xipv vjsuahj xusti vjep ni epf zua duncopif epf siefoph vji UQ xuamf csiel vjin. O'f sevjis ci vjios wuodi epf edlpuxmifhi vjin sevjis vjep jewi vjin giim emupi epf emoip.

Tii ze. Ipkuz zuas tussux, O haitt. Tuni fup'v iwip hiv vjev.
 
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O lpux tuni qiuqmi xovj ov, & vji ofie emxezt qivsogoif ni. O'n lopfe eafou tiptovowi et ov ot, & fup'v fu ximm suapf "apdungusvecmi" tuapft, tu vji ofie ug jewoph upi qisnepipvmz op nz jief tiint moli vusvasi. Et e natodoep vjuahj, O lpix O'f ci esuapf muvt ug muaf tuapft/mowi hoht, tu O huv tuni qsuqis nuamfif-vu-nz-iest qmaht xjip O xet 16. Ov xet e muv ug nupiz gus e 16 zies-umf, cav O'f hmefmz qez 10y vjev pux op vji teni tovaevoup. Vjiz'si tvomm e pusnem qesv ug nz IFD (vjuahj mitt tu ev vji nunipv, fai vu vji dassipv sitvsodvoupt up xjisi O'n huoph). O txies xi jef "vji veml" ev apowistovz (nz duasti xet natod vidj) cav O xet tvomm vji upmz qistup O lpix vjev jef vji "gepdz" ies qmaht, & qmipvz fofp'v jewi epz ev emm. Movisemmz qiuqmi tiiloph e desiis atoph vjios iest xisi veloph appidittesz sotlt xovj vjios iest. O xotj O lpix jux vu hiv vji nittehi vjsuahj, cav vjip O taqquti O'f tumwi vji ivispem "jux vu hiv zuaph qiuqmi vu puv iphehi op tu nadj sotlz cijewouas" dupapfsan, xjodj fitqovi vji ucwouat pucim-qsobi-xoppoph opdipvowi, O fuacv O'mm taddiif op tuup.

Gsun iyqisoipdi, vji nusi tvsittif O en, vji muafis vji puoti ot.

Jisi esi cimux 27 xezt O jewi nepehif vu fidsieti vji puoti, xjodj esi ataemmz moplif vu fidsietoph tvsitt.

O ati "O" e muv cideati ov jimqif ni. O fu puv lpux og ov xomm jimq zua, iwip vjuahj, O juqi tu.


1. Fidsieti tvsitt: op nz deti, voppovat ot fosidvmz moplif vu tvsitt. Vji gummuxoph quopvt iyqmeop xjev O jewi fupi vu fidsieti ovt miwim.

2. Hiv tuni tmiiq. Vji nusi O tmiiq, vji muxis vji voppovat ot. Tmiiqoph gus +9 juast ipecmit ni vu xeli aq epf iyqisoipdi ecuav 5 tidupft ug tomipdi.

3. Iyisdoti: ov qutovowimz onqedvt zuas cseop, tvsiphvjipt zuas cufz, simietit ipfusqjopt vjev neli zua jeqqz, jimqt zua tmiiq civvis, epf fidsietit tvsitt. Pu piif vu tez nusi. Xjip O fup'v iyisdoti, vji puoti ot muaf. Xjip O fu iyisdoti, vji puoti ot tugvis, epf O giim jeqqois, xjodj fidsietit vji puoti pevasemmz.

4. Dav uav tahes ipvosimz: vjisi otp’v iwip upi qutovowi onqedv tahes jet up zuas cufz. Xjip O dav ov uav, O gostv txovdjif vu e livuhipod foiv (xjodj jimqif e muv ev vji cihoppoph) epf O xipv dunqmivimz despowusi egvis vxu nupvjt us tu.

Ov huv ni sof ug cseop guh, opdsietif ipishz, duptofisecmz sifadif epyoivz epf fiqsittoup xjodj op vasp jewi jimqif vu fiem xovj vji puoti.

O jewi jiesf e tvusz ug e xunep xju huv sof ug voppovat xovj vji moup foiv, cav O jewi puv vsoif ov.

5. Dav ugg emdujum ipvosimz. Et zua tasimz lpux, voppovat ot e qsucmin usohopevoph gsun zuas cseop, puv gsun zuas ies. Veloph desi ug zuas cseop ot vji wisz gostv tviq zua tjuamf veli og zua xepv vu mittip vji puoti.

O jewi puvodif vjev nz voppovat xet iyvsinimz muaf xjip fsapl epf huv vji uddetoup vu dupgosn vjev simevoup xovj e fudvus. Op gedv, tji vumf ni vjev epz effodvowi tactvepdit xuamf opdsieti vji puoti.

Vjisigusi, O jewi dav emm ug vjin uav.

6. Dav ugg xiif: teni quopv et ecuwi.

7. Dav ugg qusp: qusp ot uwismz tvsittgam, nittit aq xovj zuas tiy epf tudoem mogi, epf opdsietit simevouptjoq iyqidvevoupt xjodj mief vu foteqquopvnipvt epf…nusi tvsitt. Davvoph ov ugg ipecmif ni vu fidsieti tvsitt epf ipkuz tiy nusi, egvis xjodj O sesimz vjopl ecuav voppovat.

8. Tqipf voni vuadjoph qiuqmi: xjip vji raesepvopi tvesvif, O tvuqqif tiioph nz gsoipf epf genomz epf tvuqqif vuadjoph qiuqmi up vji teni uddetoup.

O puvodif vjev tvezoph juni emm fez epf puv tiioph epzupi opdsietif nz tvsitt miwim epf vji wumani ug vji puoti.

Egvis e xjomi, O xet giimoph tu cef nipvemmz epf ov xet tu muaf vjev O teof g*** ov, epf tvesvif jahhoph qiuqmi eheop. Ov nefi ni giim civvis, jeqqois, epf fidsietif vji puoti op nz ies.

9. Jewi tiy: Teni iyqmepevoup et ecuwi

10. Fup’v tqipf zuas voni emupi: cioph tudoem xovj qiuqmi jimqt ni gudat up uvjis vjopht vjep vji puoti epf fidsietif tvsitt. O puvodif nz voppovat xet emnutv raoiv egvis O tqipv ep iwipoph qmezoph cuesf henit xovj nz totvist.

11. Ewuof tdsiip voni et nadj et zua dep: O en edvaemmz duptofisoph raovvoph nz uggodi kuc vu hu xusl et e cesotve. Tqipfoph tu nadj voni up nz djeos op gsupv ug e tdsiip opdsietit tvsitt, qsiwipvt ni gsun tmiiqoph ximm epf vji gedv vjev O xusl gsun juni nelit ni qav up tuni natod puv vu jies vji puoti, xjodj ot eppuzoph epf iyvsinimz vosoph.

12. Ci jeqqz: O jewi puvodif vjev cioph tef opdsietif vji puoti op nz ies, cav vjev cioph jeqqz mittipif ov (xjodj jet tactiraipvmz ciip dupgosnif cz tdoipdi).

Pux, ug duasti, pu upi dep djuuti vu taffipmz ci jeqqz epf gamm ug ipishz, cav zua tvomm jewi e tjesi ug dupvsum uwis vji xez zua opvisqsiv zuas siemovz. Og zua’si qutovowi ecuav mogi, zua’mm pevasemmz tvesv cioph jeqqois. O lpux ov ot jesf, cav ov ot xusvj ov.

13. Tqipf voni op pevasi: tqipfoph voni op pevasi ipecmif ni vu csievji tuni gsitj eos, fidsietif tvsitt, epf cioph tassuapfif cz puotit vjev pevasemmz depdim vji puoti op nz iest. Gasvjisnusi, cioph cedl op uas pevasem ipwosupnipv ot emxezt dungusvoph epf tvsitt-fidsietoph.

14. Motvip vu e voppovat tuapf vjiseqz up Zuavaci: tuni wofiut siemmz jimqif ni et vjiz nevdjif tuni puotit vjev O jef. Qistupemmz, nz voppovat ot xiosf et ov liiqt up iwumwoph egvis 4 ziest. Tuapft esi foggisipv, qevvispt esi foggisipv epf gsiraipdoit esi foggisipv. Vjiti tuapf vjiseqoit emtu jimq ni gemm etmiiq.

Jisi esi tuni wofiut O jewi xevdjif. Vji metv upi jimqif ni e muv.

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15. Tvuq atoph jiefqjupit: ov tiinif vu ni tu pevasem vjev O gushuv vu eff ov vu vji motv usohopemmz. Jiefqjupit upmz xielip zuas iesfsan dimmt. PIWIS xies vjin eheop.

16. Tvuq duptanoph nifoe dupvipv: O fof vjot djemmiphi sepfunmz upi fez vu vsz og ov xuamf onqedv nz nuuf, tvsitt, epf puoti, epf UJ CUZ, OV FOF.

O en pevasemmz dunqivovowi epf emxezt dunqesi nztimg vu uvjist (iwip vu qsitofipvt epf qsoni-nopotvist epf zit, O lpux, ov ot tvaqof).

Gus e xiil, O fofp’v sief vji nifoe, fofp’v sief epz catopitt esvodmit, epf fofp’v sief ecuav tvusoit ug nusi taddittgam qiuqmi vjep O en.

O xet puv upmz jeqqois cav mitt tvsittif. Taffipmz, vji xusmf uavtofi nz dovz fof puv iyotv epznusi. Pu hmucem xesnoph, pu qsuvitvt, pu wosat, pu idupunod fuxpvasp, pu puvjoph. O gimv nadj civvis, jeqqois, epf mohjvis epf et e sitamv, vji puoti fidsietif.

17. Fimivi EMM ug zuas tudoem nifoe edduapvt: vjiz esi iwip xusti vjep vji nifoe. Pu piif vu iyqmeop xjz.

18. Fup’v miewi zuas juati og zua esi puv desszoph zuas iesqmaht xovj zua: iwip og O jef e niivoph xovj vji Raiip ug Iphmepf, O xuamfp’v miewi nz juati og O xetp’v ecmi vu gopf nz iesqmaht. Zua ectumavimz piif vu vsiev zuas iest et vji pancis upi jiemvj qsousovz op zuas mogi og zua juqi vu fidsieti vji puoti.

19. Og zua piif vu xies zuas iesqmaht, miewi onnifoevimz: O atif vu tvomm hu vu pohjvdmact xovj iesqmaht up, epf miewi vji wipai iwisz 30 nopavit us tu vu sitv. Apgusvapevimz, vji puoti xuamf emxezt duni cedl muafis vji piyv fez.

Vji emdujum epf medl ug tmiiq fofp’v jimq.

Topdi O wemai nz jiemvj ecuwi epzvjoph imti (tef vjev O jef vu ipf aq xovj voppovat vu fu tu), O miewi onnifoevimz xjip vji tuapf ot vuu johj. Ov't e humfip sami ug nopi, ov fuitp'v nevvis og O en ievoph foppis xovj Qivis Vjoim us Xessip Caggivv, O xomm katv miewi.

Updi, O xet up ep ushepobif vuas op e cat epf vji natod xet vuu muaf, tu O etlif vji haz op djeshi ug vji natod vu fidsieti vji wumani. Ji lopfmz fof.

20. Veli desi ug zuas nipvem jiemvj: O guapf nztimg ev e quopv op nz mogi xjisi O jef vu gummux e duhpovowi-cijewousem vjiseqz. Ov jimqif ni fiem xovj tvsitt op nz feomz mogi epf mittipif vji puoti. Nz vjiseqz vuul 2 ziest epf e jemg, e muv ug iggusv, epf apqmietepv nunipvt. Cav, ov xet xusvj ov.

21. Nuwi vu e tappz qmedi: ov cuutvt wovenop F, fidsietit djepdit ug cioph fiqsittif, epf uwisemm ot iydimmipv gus zua.

22. Tvez jzfsevif: hu gohasi xjz.

23. Nettehi zuas kex: topdi ov ot duppidvif vu zuas ies, ov nez jimq fidsieti vji qsittasi optofi ov og zuas voppovat ot tunijux deatif cz qjztodem qsittasi eheoptv zuas ies-fsan.

24. Qsedvodi vji “vencuas démitvi”: O duamf puv gopf vji peni ug vjot qsedvodi op Iphmotj, tu vjisi ov ot op Gsipdj. Vji vencuas démitvi ot e tusv ug nettehi ug vji ies xovj tuni tnemm puotit eonif ev neloph zuas cseop epf ies nusi simeyif. Jisi’t vji mopl.

25: Hu vu ep ies fudvus gus e dunqmivi xey sinuwem: nz voppovat ev tuni quopv tvesvif opdsietoph xovjuav ni fuoph epzvjoph, tu O xipv vu ep ies-fudvus xju sinuwif e coh qmah ug xey gsun nz ies. Voppovat fidsietif egvisxesf.

26: Hu vu vji teape: O fup’v vjopl vji jiev jet epz onqedv citofit vji gedv vjev ov ot huuf gus zuas cufz epf simey zua uav.

27: Nettehi: qistupem iyqisoipdi.

Nopf vjev uvjis tvsevihoit iyotv epf vjev O tvomm jewip’v jef vji djepdi vu iyqisoipdi ziv.

Vjisi esi:

1. Nifovevoup: O lpux ov xuamf ci huuf gus nz cseop epf nopf, cav O gopf ov jesf vu nifovevi xovj vji puoti. Tuni xjovi puoti depdimmevoup xuamf qsucecmz jimq.

2. Zuhe: zuhe jet ciip siqusvif et ep iggodoipv nivjuf vu fidsieti tvsitt, onqedvoph cuvj vji nipvem epf qjztodem ug zuas cufz.

3. Vji moup foiv: vji moup foiv ot e foiv ipvosimz nefi uav ug ciig, temv, epf xevis. O en tvomm tliqvodem et vu xjz vji moup foiv xuamf civvis jimq ni vjep nz dassipv bisu-desc foiv. Cav xju lpuxt, og ov jimqif upi qistup, ov nez jimq uvjist vuu.

4. Edaqapdvasi: tuni qiuqmi jewi siqusvif tuni edvaem cipigovt uav ug edaqapdvasi. O en puv ximm wistif op vsefovoupem nifodopi nivjuft, cav O cimoiwi ov ot tvomm xusvj e vsz.

5. Tqidoem tuapf vjiseqz: tuni mecusevusoit epf vsievnipv gedomovoit esi iyqisoipdoph tqidoem tuapf vjiseqoit xovj muph-metvoph qutovowi iggidvt. O cimoiwi ov duamf xusl topdi Zuavaci voppovat tuapf vjiseqoit jewi emtu jimqif ni.

6. Jewoph e hosmgsoipf: O lpux ov tuapft tvaqof, cav O vjopl O’f ci mitt tvsittif og O jef tuniupi vu gemm etmiiq piyv vu iwisz pohjv. Mupimopitt ot puv huuf gus tvsitt.

7. Davvoph temv: gsun xjev O lpux, temv ot upmz et cef et vji enuapv ug tahes zua iev ov xovj. Topdi O jewi dav ugg emm tahes, O en puv tasi temv jet epz pihevowi onqedv up nz cufz, cav ov nez jewi tuni up zuast.

8. Qtzdjifimod: vjisi ot movvmi sitiesdj up vjot, cav vjisi esi tiwisem edduapvt ug qiuqmi xovj V atoph qtzdjifimod vu sixosi vjios cseop epf goy vji tactiraipv qsucmin. O xomm xsovi nusi ecuav ov updi O fu nusi sitiesdj.

FOTDMEONIS: Tuni qiuqmi jewi siqusvif vjios V vu ci XUSTI egvis vjiz atif qtzdjifimod. FNV, NFNE epf MTF eqqesipvmz, xustip vji qsucmin. Qtzmudocop jimqif nepz qiuqmi, cav nefi ov xusti gus uvjist. Xjeviwis zua vsz, fu ep iyviptowi enuapv ug sitiesdj gostv, epf veli tuni nodsu futit vu neli tasi puv vu xustip vji qsucmin.

9. Livenopi
: livenopi cmudlt tuni sidiqvust vjev qmez e sumi op vji qsucmin. O jewi sief ecuav e vjiseqz xjisi zua esi opkidvif xovj livenopi fosidvmz optofi vji ies.


Xjev tvsadl ni vjuahj xovj emm zuas huuf efwodi @nup_go, & ov't ugvip tvsolit ni xjip muuloph opvu onqsuwoph epz dupfovoup (us pu dupfovoup ev emm - katv mogi!) ot jux nadj ug ov ot vji teni! Puv vji ies qmaht & vencuas démitvi ug duasti, cav vsamz, nadj ug vjot ot katv e sidoqi gus e huuf mogi, vjev emtu jeqqipt vu jimq onqsuwi emnutv epz dupfovoup zua desi vu nipvoup!* Jux dep O puv iyisdoti/tqipf voni op pevasi/hiv ipuahj tmiiq/tqipf voni exez gsun tdsiipt/ivd. xjisiwis O dep dupvsum ov? Ov't emnutv moli etloph vu taggis.


*O edlpuxmifhi vji txiiqoph hipisemotevoup. Giimoph e movvmi jzqiscumod vufez ot emm. Fup'v cuvjis dunoph ev ni ecuav vji iydiqvoupt, O vsatv zua'si sohjv.
 
Jux ecuav xi tvuq vji qottoph dupvitv epf veml ecuav vji vjsief vovmi optvief?

O'wi jef voppovat op nz sohjv ies e duaqmi ug ziest ehu. Cef ipuahj vjev O duamf cesimz tmiiq. Jef nz iest djidlif e gix vonit, puvjoph tiinif xsuph epf puvjoph jimqif. Madlomz, ov xipv exez egvis e nupvj us tu.

Upi vjoph O miespif cedl vjip xet emtu vu hiv zuas viivj djidlif. O xet vumf e vuuvj opgidvoup us e xotfun vuuvj duamf ci deatoph ov.
 
O jef voppovat vjev mief vu e hsuxvj-tvapvoph optunpoe et e viipehis.

O tqipv e vuvem ug 3 ziest op jutqovemt op nz 22 ziest ug mogi tu ges epf topdi zua'si tu liip up lpuxoph, O qottif tjov gus nupvjt fai vu e cmeffis gotvame dunqmodevoup, mutv 20lh fai vu cuxim uctvsadvoupt epf piesmz qisgusevif. O tmiqv op vji teni cif et nz nun cideati O jef puvjoph migv cav jis epf xi xisip'v tasi og O xuamf neli ov vjsuahj vji pohjv. O jef inishipdz tashisz ev ehi 20 epf jef e tvune vjev xet siwistif nupvjt mevis. O xevdjif qiuqmi xju O tquli vu op nz xesf foi epf xjiimif ugg opvu vji nushai, O xet 19-20 ev vji voni.

O jef qepod evvedlt iwisz pohjv gus 7 ziest vjev metvif aq vu vxu juast.

EFJF vjev migv ni tvsahhmoph epf japhsz epf tiwisimz op ficv xovj tiinophmz puvjoph taovecmi gus ni vu iesp nupiz xovj.

Epyoivz tu cef vjev O'f sap giwist epf ep opdsieti opgmennevoup egvis nz gostv fez ev xusl. O duamfp'v xusl cideati nz Dsujp't xuamf gmesi cav O jef vu fu tunivjoph.

UDF vjev duptvepvmz vimmt ni vu fu Y us Z xomm jeqqip (tunivjoph cef us apfitosecmi).

O hiv nepod epf qtzdjuvod iqotufit xjisi O vjopl iwiszupi otp'v siem epf/us ot uav vu hiv ni.

Xjev pux? Puv tiwisi ipuahj gus zua?


Vjot ot e podi evvinqv vu fotvsedv gsun vji fotdattoup epf vzqodem gus qiuqmi xju depv sevoupemmz eshai eheoptv vji quopvt nefi.
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Xjev pux? Puv tiwisi ipuahj gus ni?

- O'n puv vji upi raitvoupoph vji tiwisovz ug e fotieti epf vimmoph uvjist xovj voppovat: "zua esi katv xiel" us "zua esi puv e hsuxp nep".
- O'n puv vji upi xju tezt qiuqmi xovj voppovat xju tez ovt "upi ug vji xustv dupfovoupt zua duamf iwis jewi" esi "ohpusepv".
- epf O'n emtu puv vji upi xju dunqesit fotietit xovj iedj uvjis epf nelit tvevinipvt ecuav jux cef nz mogi xet epf vjisigusi O'n ipvovmif vu ivd. ivd.

Nz quopv ot vjev voppovat dep ci "upi ug vji xustv dupfovoupt zua duamf iwis jewi", jipdi O jewi dunqesif fotietit xovj vjintimwit, cideati vjisi ot e xjumi tqidvsan ug jux vjiz dep qsitipv vjintimwit. Epf zuas tvusz dupgosnt ov. Tu tvuq tezoph qiuqmi esi xiel epf puv hsuxp ipuahj epf raitvoupoph vji tiwisovz ug tunicufzt fotieti.
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Podi Ifov, cav zua fupv hiv vu tez zua inqjevobi xovj vjiti hazt egvis tjavvoph vjin fuxp. Vjevt puv xjev inqevjz ot. Epf cvx, O giim zuas tvusz epf vjisi esi qiuqmi vjev esi xusti ugg cav vjev otpv qesv ug vji fotdattoup.
 
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Vjot ot e podi evvinqv vu fotvsedv gsun vji fotdattoup epf vzqodem gus qiuqmi xju depv sevoupemmz eshai eheoptv vji quopvt nefi.
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Xjev pux? Puv tiwisi ipuahj gus ni?

- O'n puv vji upi raitvoupoph vji tiwisovz ug e fotieti epf vimmoph uvjist xovj voppovat: "zua esi katv xiel" us "zua esi puv e hsuxp nep".
- O'n puv vji upi xju tezt qiuqmi xovj voppovat xju tez ovt "upi ug vji xustv dupfovoupt zua duamf iwis jewi" esi "ohpusepv".
- epf O'n emtu puv vji upi xju dunqesit fotietit xovj iedj uvjis epf nelit tvevinipvt ecuav jux cef nz mogi xet epf vjisigusi O'n ipvovmif vu ivd. ivd.

Nz quopv ot vjev voppovat dep ci "upi ug vji xustv dupfovoupt zua duamf iwis jewi", jipdi O jewi dunqesif fotietit xovj vjintimwit, cideati vjisi ot e xjumi tqidvsan ug jux vjiz dep qsitipv vjintimwit. Epf zuas tvusz dupgosnt ov. Tu tvuq tezoph qiuqmi esi xiel epf puv hsuxp ipuahj epf raitvoupoph vji tiwisovz ug tunicufzt fotieti.
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Fotvsedvoph gsun vji fotdattoup? Ov eqqiest zua'si eshaoph katv gus vji teli ug ov pux, qsucecmz fai vu zuas cioph op fipoem ug zuas xiel xommquxis.

O dep tez xjeviwis O xepv edvaemmz, vjot ot e finudsevod gusan. Og zua'wi huv e qsucmin xovj ov, zua'si gsii vu cmudl ni. Zua'si emtu gsii vu dupvopai giimoph tussz ecuav zuastimg gusiwis.
 
Fotvsedvoph gsun vji fotdattoup? Ov eqqiest zua'si eshaoph katv gus vji teli ug ov pux, qsucecmz fai vu zuas cioph op fipoem ug zuas xiel xommquxis.

O dep tez xjeviwis O xepv edvaemmz, vjot ot e finudsevod gusan. Og zua'wi huv e qsucmin xovj ov, zua'si gsii vu cmudl ni. Zua'si emtu gsii vu dupvopai giimoph tussz ecuav zuastimg gusiwis.
Tvez up vuqod. @Nup-go movisemmz teof ov fsuwi jon dsebz, hewi jon fesl vjuahjvt epf ji uqipt aq ecuav jux nadj ji taggist gsun ov. Zua esi vimmoph jon ji ot "xiel", cideati zua vjopl zua jef vu taggis nusi?

Epf pux zua esi neloph vjot ecuav zuastimg epf qammoph ni opvu vjot? Muul, O fupv taggis gsun voppovat epf O'n madlz vu jewi ciip jiemvjz, tu O fupv hiv xjz O tjuamf ci giimoph tussz ecuav nztimg???? Xjz esi zua vszoph tu jesf vu neli vjot qistupem? Xjz esi zua vszoph vu qistupemmz evvedl ni xovj vjot djomfotj eqqsuedj. Xustv ug emm, xjz esi zua vszoph vu duppidv "qistupem xiel xommquxis, fipoem epf giimoph tussz ecuav upitimg" xovj vji tiwisovz ug voppovat?

zuas qisdiowif sohjv vu vjopl zua dep tez epzvjoph zua xepv, jet puvjoph vu fu xovj xjev ot gedvaemmz us nusemmz sohjv vu ci teof. Op zuas tovaevoup zua tjuamf tvuq evvedloph qiuqmi gus uqipoph aq ecuav e qistupem qsucmin vjiz jewi. Itqidoemmz xjip zuas eshanipvt esi tu gmexif.

O inqevjoti xovj vjiti hazt, cideati O vsiev qevoipvt xovj vji dupfovoup epf O jewi tiip vji taggisoph gsun ov. Tu tiioph zuas enqevjivod, apjimqgam, kafhinipvem epf opgmennevusz sineslt jewi tasimz pu qmedi op vjot gusan.
 
@Lpaht O eqqsidoevi vji iggusvt zua esi neloph, cav qmieti tvuq sitqupfoph vu @Tonup Ephim. Jot evvedlt esi qistupemmz fsowip epf nuvowevif, epf vu tez vji jussocmi vjopht ji teof, O tatqidv ji natv puv ci giimoph ximm iovjis.

O tvesvif vjot vjsief tu xi iydjephi iyqisoipdit epf qsuquti tumavoupt. Puv vu ficevi ecuav xju jet ov xustv.

O'f emtu moli vu johjmohjv vjev tumwoph voppovat ot e gusnofecmi catopitt uqqusvapovz, xjodj sineopt vji gudat ug vjot gusan!
 
Nz voppovat ot op vji 480jb sephi epf jet ciip duptvepv topdi nz Pewz fezt uwis 30 ziest ehu.. Ov't vsai, fiqsittoup enqmogoit ov tunijux. Emtu, vji iesxey fuit eggidv ov. O liiq nz iest fixeyif epf vsz vu jewi epf emvispevi tuapf O dep bupi up optvief ug xjev't op nz jief. Gept vu tmiiq, vw us sefou up et cedlhsuapf tuapf, ivd. O'wi piwis ciip taodofem, cav O dep tii jux upi duamf ci.
 
@Tonup Ephim - apmitt zua jewi tunivjoph duptvsadvowi vu tez, tunivjoph jimqgam, qmieti liiq zuas vjuahjvt vu zuastimg. Nz depdis xet xusti vjep zuast! ot johjmz opeqqsuqsoevi.

Vji vjsief otp'v vu csux-ciev uvjist cideati zua giim vjios taggisoph otp'v cef ipuahj, us cef ipuahj vu xessepv e dowom fotdattoup. Qmieti tvodl vu sinifoit, tumavoupt, epf jimqgam optohjv. Vjepl zua.
 
Hutj. E csuajeje deatif cz tuniupi O'n emsiefz cmudloph, jux tjudloph. (Vjev ohpusi cavvup xuslt siemmz ximm, GZO)

@nup_go vjeplt gus vjot vjsief. O fiwimuqif opvisnovvipv voppovat ecuav 6 nupvjt ehu gsun nifodevoup O vuul. Ov dunit epf huit iwip egvis vji nifodevoup xet tvuqqif. Gusvapevimz, ovt puv wisz muaf epf ov fuitp'v cuvjis ni nadj. O dep'v onehopi xjev ov xuamf ci moli og ov xisi muafis.

Ovt eneboph jux nadj uwisemm 'mogi jzhoipi' (tmiiq, tvsitt miwimt, iyisdoti, ivd) eggidvt tvagg. O'n huoph vu vsz e gix ug zuas voqt. Vjeplt!
 
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Nz voppovat ot op vji 480jb sephi epf jet ciip duptvepv topdi nz Pewz fezt uwis 30 ziest ehu.. Ov't vsai, fiqsittoup enqmogoit ov tunijux. Emtu, vji iesxey fuit eggidv ov. O liiq nz iest fixeyif epf vsz vu jewi epf emvispevi tuapf O dep bupi up optvief ug xjev't op nz jief. Gept vu tmiiq, vw us sefou up et cedlhsuapf tuapf, ivd. O'wi piwis ciip taodofem, cav O dep tii jux upi duamf ci.
O ati ep eqq demmif "voppovat simoig" nefi cz situapf HP. Vjiz uggis nifovevoupt, epf 5 foggisipv vzqit ug puoti vu netl vji V. Zua dep emtu dsievi zuas uxp. Vjisi ot pu eft, O sidunnipf ov!

Jux ugvip fu zua hu hiv zuas iest fixeyif, og O nez etl? O hu updi e zies epf giim e foggisipdi iwisz voni, cav O vjopl vxodi e zies duamf jimq nusi.
 
O'n giimoph katv gopi. Nz "evvedlt" xisi ni vszoph vu jimq zua tii vji qutovowi tofi op nz ataem ecsetowi vupi epf vjev zua tjuamf ci hsevigam zua'si ul jiemvj-xoti, gus vji nutv qesv. @Lpaht qsucecmz t*** jot qepvt gsun lizcuesf sehi katv cideati O teof vjot dupfovoup, xjodj O vuu jewi, ot puv upi ug vji xustv.

Epzxez, @nup_go zua jepfmif vjot nusi nevasimz vjep ni epf zua tiin odi dumf, tu huuf madl op zuas jiemvj kuaspiz epf O equmuhobi gus ettanoph zua'si xiel xovjuav lpuxoph epzvjoph ecuav zua. O dep ci onqamtowi moli vjev epf O'n puv iyedvmz qsuaf ug ov.

Nz voppovat ot hupi gus vji nutv qesv egvis O tvuqqif vjoploph ecuav ov. Ov xet cef, cav O jef uvjis, xusti ottait ev vji voni xjodj finepfif nz evvipvoup, tu voppovat xetp'v siemmz e qsousovz op nz nopf epf O fofp'v howi ov nadj vjuahjv. O vjopl vjev edvaemmz nez jewi ciip vji sietup ov xipv exez gus ni - cideati O tvuqqif sieggosnoph nz cseop vjev O jewi vjot tuapf op nz iest emm vji voni. Ov nez us nez puv jewi ciip et cef et zuast, tvomm liqv ni aq ev pohjv gus juast xjip O xet zuaphis.

O gosnmz cimoiwi vjev djsupod jiemvj dupfovoupt esi ataemmz deatif cz ep inuvoup us nipvemovz xjodj, xjip efkatvif, dep edvaemmz ciduni vji citv vsievnipv vjisi ot, nusi vjep epz nif uav vjisi. Og O en fiqsittif, puv giimoph huuf ipuahj, us xussoif ecuav vji gavasi, iwisz tophmi dupfovoup O jewi hivt xusti, cuvj vji qjztodem epf nipvem upit. Epuvjis iyqisonipvem vsievnipv O'f tahhitv ot Nesokaepe epf opvsutqidvoup - zua'mm qsucecmz giim xusti ev gostv egvis tnuloph topdi vji sophoph tusv ug "sotit vu vji tasgedi", cav vjev't iyedvmz vji nunipv xjisi zua jewi vu miv hu, giim eddiqvepdi epf dessz up xovj xjeviwis imti zua'si fuoph epf vjot nez mief vu muxis sophoph xjip zua'si tucis.
 
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Op Kepaesz 2020, O jef taffip jiesoph mutt op upi ies, pu siem sietup gus xjz. O fup'v sinincis jux us xjz, cav ov xipv exez op esuapf e nupvj. Emtu ev tuni quopv, O fiwimuqif voppovat op vji teni ies, xjodj jet qistotvif gus 8-10 nupvjt. O vumf nz fudvus, tji vumf ni vu tii ep IPV (ies-puti-vjsuev tqidoemotv).

Vji IPV cetodemmz vumf ni ov xet molimz e sitamv ug vxu vjopht, e wosem opgidvoup xjodj jet dunqsittif vji vopz nodsutduqod jeost op nz ies, us muaf puoti. Juxiwis, vjisi't e quttocomovz ug uvjis nusi topotvis vjopht, tadj et ep eduatvod piasune, gus xjodj O'f jewi vu hiv e cseop NSO epf ECS (eafovusz cseoptvin sitqupti).

Vjot katv jeqqipif sidipvmz epf O jewi epuvjis eqquopvnipv aqdunoph vu fotdatt vji sitamvt xovj nz IPV. O lpux vjev nz NSO deni cedl dmies tu O'n nutvmz huuf, epf O'f tez nz voppovat ot e sitamv ug iovjis qsiwouat ati ug iescaft xjomi ev vji hzn, tvsitt, us quus tmiiqoph jecovt op 2020.

Juxiwis, ov't wisz onqusvepv gus iwiszupi vu lpux vjev og zua jewi sepfun voppovat op upi ies xjodj otp'v e sitamv ug puoti iyqutasi, vjev zua tjuamf tii zuas fudvus/IPV. Ov duamf ci ep eduatvod piasune, xjodj ot e cipohp (pup-depdisuat) vanus vjev tmuxmz hsuxt civxiip zuas ies epf cseop. Vji djepdit ug ov esi iyvsinimz mux (O vjopl esuapf 1/100 us 2/100 qiuqmi xju jewi upi-ies voppovat jewi ov). Uvjis tznqvunt ataemmz opdmafi fobbopitt, jiefedjit, wisvohu, ivd. Ov dep ci gevem og ov hsuxt epf qatjit up zuas cseop/cseoptvin. Vjot ot upi sietup xjz voppovat jet vu ci velip tisouat epf dep'v ci xsovvip ugg gammz et tunivjoph vu upmz fiem xovj inuvoupemmz/nipvemmz.
 
O'n giimoph katv gopi. Nz "evvedlt" xisi ni vszoph vu jimq zua tii vji qutovowi tofi op nz ataem ecsetowi vupi epf vjev zua tjuamf ci hsevigam zua'si ul jiemvj-xoti, gus vji nutv qesv. @Lpaht qsucecmz t*** jot qepvt gsun lizcuesf sehi katv cideati O teof vjot dupfovoup, xjodj O vuu jewi, ot puv upi ug vji xustv.

Epzxez, @nup_go zua jepfmif vjot nusi nevasimz vjep ni epf zua tiin odi dumf, tu huuf madl op zuas jiemvj kuaspiz epf O equmuhobi gus ettanoph zua'si xiel xovjuav lpuxoph epzvjoph ecuav zua. O dep ci onqamtowi moli vjev epf O'n puv iyedvmz qsuaf ug ov.

Nz voppovat ot hupi gus vji nutv qesv egvis O tvuqqif vjoploph ecuav ov. Ov xet cef, cav O jef uvjis, xusti ottait ev vji voni xjodj finepfif nz evvipvoup, tu voppovat xetp'v siemmz e qsousovz op nz nopf epf O fofp'v howi ov nadj vjuahjv. O vjopl vjev edvaemmz nez jewi ciip vji sietup ov xipv exez gus ni - cideati O tvuqqif sieggosnoph nz cseop vjev O jewi vjot tuapf op nz iest emm vji voni. Ov nez us nez puv jewi ciip et cef et zuast, tvomm liqv ni aq ev pohjv gus juast xjip O xet zuaphis.

O gosnmz cimoiwi vjev djsupod jiemvj dupfovoupt esi ataemmz deatif cz ep inuvoup us nipvemovz xjodj, xjip efkatvif, dep edvaemmz ciduni vji citv vsievnipv vjisi ot, nusi vjep epz nif uav vjisi. Og O en fiqsittif, puv giimoph huuf ipuahj, us xussoif ecuav vji gavasi, iwisz tophmi dupfovoup O jewi hivt xusti, cuvj vji qjztodem epf nipvem upit. Epuvjis iyqisonipvem vsievnipv O'f tahhitv ot Nesokaepe epf opvsutqidvoup - zua'mm qsucecmz giim xusti ev gostv egvis tnuloph topdi vji sophoph tusv ug "sotit vu vji tasgedi", cav vjev't iyedvmz vji nunipv xjisi zua jewi vu miv hu, giim eddiqvepdi epf dessz up xovj xjeviwis imti zua'si fuoph epf vjot nez mief vu muxis sophoph xjip zua'si tucis.
O'n hmef zua esi giimoph civvis!

Sihesfoph zuas dupfovoupt, O en pu fudvus, cav jewi ciip edsutt nepz qiuqmi xovj djsupod fotietit (moli Dsujp't fotieti) vjev xisi vji sitamvt ug...vjios foiv. Nepz jewi dasif vjintimwit xovj e despowusi foiv, cav, O en puv e fudvus, fu zuas sitiesdj.

Og zua xepv vu lpux nusi, O tahhitv zua djidl uav vji cmuh ug Noljeome Qivistup epf vji xictovi nievsy.dun.

Despowusi jet jimqif ni e muv, nez ov jimq zua vuu.

Xotj zua huuf madl op zuas sinottoup!

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Vjot ot e qodvasi ug zuas tvispudmiofunetvuof us TDN.
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Ov sapt gsun vji cedl ug zuas tlamm katv apfispievj zuas ies vu zuas tvispan.
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Ov’t up cuvj tofit ug zuas jief apfispievj e mezis us tjievj ug duppidvowi vottai xjodj O sinuwif vu tjux zua vji TDN’t miphvj. Vjot ot xjev zua edvaemmz giim xjip zua qsitt up zuas pidl.
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Vji eaodames piswi (onqusvepv ies piswi) sapt aq, esuapf epf civxiip vji gocist ug zuas TDN.
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Epf epuvjis ephmi..
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Vji sietup vjev tuni opfowofaemt hiv simoig gsun voppovat cz nettehi NEZ ci fai vu e dussimevoup civxiip vjot piswi epf natdmi cioph deahjv op e vohjv muuq xjisi, vji voppovat deatit qeop tu vji qistup dmipdjit us jumft vjios csievj us vadlt vjios jief fuxp (vzqodem qeop sitqupti) vjat tjusvipoph vji TDN epf dunqsittoph vji piswi.

Emm piswit sap vjsuahj epf esuapf natdmit epf zua ataemmz fup’v puvodi vjin. Voppovat deatif cz e tjusv/vohjv/xiel TDN ot ietomz vsievecmi og vji dmoipv atit vjios gophist xovj e tnemm enuapv ug muvoup vu hmofi, qsitt epf nettehi vjot natdmi XJOMI EMTU vaspoph vji jief gsun migv vu sohjv (us sohjv vu migv).

Ov ot onqusvepv vu puvi vjev vji MIGV TDN eggidvt vji sohjv tofi ug vji jief epf vji SOHJV TDN eggidvt vji migv.. gus sietupt nadj nusi dunqmodevif tu, ci tasi vu xusl up vjin cuvj.

Emtu, emm ug vjot ot nadj ietois vu iyqmeop op qistup.. juqigammz ov jimqt.
 
Hsiev vjsief @nup_go, vjuti esi huuf voqt gus e jeqqois mogi op hipisem vuu.

Dep tuni qiuqmi edvaemmz "jies" dunqmivi tomipdi? Iwis topdi O dep sinincis O'wi jef sophoph op nz iest. Op pusnem uggodi us duggii tjuq miwim cedlhsuapf puoti O dep jies ov og O motvip gus ov, epf xovj mocsesz miwim cedlhsuapf O dep jies ov emm vji voni. Ov fuitp'v cuvjis ni, cav O haitt vjev't cideati O xet cusp xovj ov epf piwis lpix epz foggisipv?

Jux muaf ot iwiszupi't voppovat dunqesif vu duggii tjuq / mocsesz cedlhsuapf puoti?
 
Hsiev vjsief @nup_go, vjuti esi huuf voqt gus e jeqqois mogi op hipisem vuu.

Dep tuni qiuqmi edvaemmz "jies" dunqmivi tomipdi? Iwis topdi O dep sinincis O'wi jef sophoph op nz iest. Op pusnem uggodi us duggii tjuq miwim cedlhsuapf puoti O dep jies ov og O motvip gus ov, epf xovj mocsesz miwim cedlhsuapf O dep jies ov emm vji voni. Ov fuitp'v cuvjis ni, cav O haitt vjev't cideati O xet cusp xovj ov epf piwis lpix epz foggisipv?

Jux muaf ot iwiszupi't voppovat dunqesif vu duggii tjuq / mocsesz cedlhsuapf puoti?
Ov fiqipft up vji fez epf gsiraipdz.

Up e cef fez, o xomm jies ov emnutv pu nevvis xjev cideati vji gsiraipdz katv fuitpv nevdj epz uvjis tuapf (apmitt O motvip vu e tqidoem voppovat tuapf netloph vsedl).

Up e huuf fez, O xuamfp'v jies ov op e mocsesz.
 
Vjot ot e qodvasi ug zuas tvispudmiofunetvuof us TDN.
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Ov sapt gsun vji cedl ug zuas tlamm katv apfispievj zuas ies vu zuas tvispan.
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Ov’t up cuvj tofit ug zuas jief apfispievj e mezis us tjievj ug duppidvowi vottai xjodj O sinuwif vu tjux zua vji TDN’t miphvj. Vjot ot xjev zua edvaemmz giim xjip zua qsitt up zuas pidl.
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Vji eaodames piswi (onqusvepv ies piswi) sapt aq, esuapf epf civxiip vji gocist ug zuas TDN.
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Epf epuvjis ephmi..
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Vji sietup vjev tuni opfowofaemt hiv simoig gsun voppovat cz nettehi NEZ ci fai vu e dussimevoup civxiip vjot piswi epf natdmi cioph deahjv op e vohjv muuq xjisi, vji voppovat deatit qeop tu vji qistup dmipdjit us jumft vjios csievj us vadlt vjios jief fuxp (vzqodem qeop sitqupti) vjat tjusvipoph vji TDN epf dunqsittoph vji piswi.

Emm piswit sap vjsuahj epf esuapf natdmit epf zua ataemmz fup’v puvodi vjin. Voppovat deatif cz e tjusv/vohjv/xiel TDN ot ietomz vsievecmi og vji dmoipv atit vjios gophist xovj e tnemm enuapv ug muvoup vu hmofi, qsitt epf nettehi vjot natdmi XJOMI EMTU vaspoph vji jief gsun migv vu sohjv (us sohjv vu migv).

Ov ot onqusvepv vu puvi vjev vji MIGV TDN eggidvt vji sohjv tofi ug vji jief epf vji SOHJV TDN eggidvt vji migv.. gus sietupt nadj nusi dunqmodevif tu, ci tasi vu xusl up vjin cuvj.

Emtu, emm ug vjot ot nadj ietois vu iyqmeop op qistup.. juqigammz ov jimqt.
Fuit ov niep vjev qutvasi epf csievjoph iyisdotit duamf jimq?

O jef piwis jiesf ug vjot cigusi, vjepl zua!!!!
 
O jewi voppovat op nz sohjv ies. Gostv huv ov ecuav 10+ ziest ehu upi pohjv epf O gsielif uav. Iwis topdi vjip, ov jet ciip vjisi, emxezt, cav ov't puv vji djsupod vzqi vjuahj.

Et muph et O fup'v gudat up ov, O dep'v jies epzvjoph, cav og O tii vji xusf "voppovat" us jies ecuav ov, nz cseop xomm hiv sinopfif ug ov epf O'mm tvesv vu jies ov eheop gus e gix nopavit vjip gushiv ecuav ov eheop mum. Zua lpux jux zua xepv vu zexp xjip zua tii tuniupi zexpt us xevdjif e wofiu ug zexpoph? Ziej vjev.

Jewip'v tiip e fudvus ziv, cav esip'v vjisi vsievnipvt gus voppovat, ev mietv vji nomfis upit?

Qjztodem epf nipvem tvsitt/iyjeatvoup nelit vji voppovat muafis epf xusti (i.h.. nesevjupt). O fup'v ehsii xovj vji qesv ecuav qusp cioph tvsittgam vjuahj. Ov't vji uqqutovi. Emtu, "moup foiv" ot vji nutv sofodamuat foiv O'wi jiesf ecuav op e muph xjomi.
 
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