To move out of home or not?

[teabag]

I'm not sure if it's a smart financial decision. I'm in my early 20's living at home and do not pay any bills. My expenses are my car, hobbies/outings/entertainment, self maintenance (gym etc).

I've started 2 degrees and dropped out of both of them - which has annoyed my parents greatly. The past 4 months has been mentally draining, my parents fight and argue with me each night. I understand they want the best for me, and will support me in my ventures, but they've had enough because I didn't complete uni.

They call me a bum, a loser - and a whole lot of other things. They tell me I'm going no where with my life, which is understandable - I'm in a slow lane job that any other shmuck could get.

I simply do not have the discipline required for a university student. By trade, I'm a graphic designer and work 4 days a week in a small firm in a g.design/marketing role. I do free lance work after hours and work as a bouncer fri-sun nights. I earn $704 from my slow lane job before tax and $600 cash from the clubs. My freelance work earns me $200-$500 depending on how much work I can get after hours. On average I'm making $1,500 for a shit load of hours per week

Now, this is the dilemma I'm facing. Do I keep this work up and move out into a small studio apartment and become independent - ridding all mental stress from family? I'll be budgeting to live, which I haven't got a problem with, but by moving out, I've got to be sure I'm bringing X amount of money in so I can pay the bills.

By moving out as well, I'm sacrificing my time which I'd like to be putting into fast lane ventures.

If I stay home, I'll have no financial stress and be able to let go of some work to focus on my fast lane ventures - but I'll have parental problems, them being invasive in what I do and where I go, arguments every night about me doing nothing with my life and all that dizzle.

I know some people leave home in their teens, but I have honestly been baby sat all my life and feel like moving out may get me moving with my fast lane goals. At home, I feel so safe and always say tomorrow to do things.

Any guidance/experience with this and how your life changed would be greatly appreciated.

Oh, I'm also trying to go full time free lance and ditch my 9-5 job. I'd prefer earning $1,000 than $1,500. That $500 less income is 4 working days of my time, which is pretty hefty.

Thanks guys

 

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[DeletedUser394]

Zua jewi ep opduni, zua'si ep efamv, zua tjuamf ci dupvsocavoph vu vji juatijumf og zua fup'v nuwi uav.

Iwiszupi ot huoph vu tez 'nuwi uav pux csu', cav op nepz damvasit qiuqmi mowi xovj vjios genomoit ximm opvu efamvjuuf epf vjev't vuvemmz gopi, cav zua jewi vu qez zuas geos tjesi.

Juxiwis ov't nusi us mitt dmies zua piif vu nuwi uav. Sipv e suun, zua fup'v piif e xjumi eqesvnipv.

Puv ipuahj detj vu tatveop zuas cetod pidittovoit? Juccoit/uavopht/ipvisveopnipv huit vu bisu apvom zua jewi e tumof guapfevoup apfis zua.

 

[teabag]

Zua jewi ep opduni, zua'si ep efamv, zua tjuamf ci dupvsocavoph vu vji juatijumf og zua fup'v nuwi uav.

Iwiszupi ot huoph vu tez 'nuwi uav pux csu', cav op nepz damvasit qiuqmi mowi xovj vjios genomoit ximm opvu efamvjuuf epf vjev't vuvemmz gopi, cav zua jewi vu qez zuas geos tjesi.

Juxiwis ov't nusi us mitt dmies zua piif vu nuwi uav. Sipv e suun, zua fup'v piif e xjumi eqesvnipv.

Puv ipuahj detj vu tatveop zuas cetod pidittovoit? Juccoit/uavopht/ipvisveopnipv huit vu bisu apvom zua jewi e tumof guapfevoup apfis zua.

Vjev't emtu epuvjis qsucmin. Nz damvasi tiit djomfsip mowoph xovj vjios qesipvt apvom vjiz'si nessoif. O xuamfp'v xepv genomz vu ci 'vemloph' ecuav nz genomz et vjuahj xi jewi qsucmint.

 

[DeletedUser394]

Zua'si gusvapevi vu mowi op e Xitvispobif duapvsz.. xjodj niept sihesfmitt ug xjisi zuas genomz qsiwouatmz deni gsun (O'n puv fotdsifov ov ev emm) zua jewi gamm djuodi ug jux vu mowi zuas mogi.

Zua amvonevimz jewi vu fu xjev't citv gus zua.

Zua siemmz upmz jewi 1 ug 2 uqvoupt

Iovjis vsz vu onqsuwi vji simevouptjoq xovj zuas qesipvt xjomi sineopoph ev juni, us nuwi uav epf tii xjev ov't moli.

Zua dep emxezt nuwi uav gus e vsoem sap. Tohp e nupvj vu nupvj mieti ehsiinipv epf dunqesi vji vxu mogitvzmit, tii xjodj xuslt citv gus zua.

 

[AubreyJ]

O en 20 ziest umf et ximm epf O tvomm mowi ev juni xovj nz fef- O jewi nusi vjep ipuahj nupiz vu nuwi uav epf mowi up nz uxp, cav nz fef epf O cuvj ehsiif vjev gus ni, ev vjot quopv op nz mogi, nz nupiz ot civvis tqipv huoph vuxesft nz catopitt et eqqutif vu huoph vuxesft nz sipv. Tu O fup'v tii epzvjoph xsuph xovj mowoph ev juni, et muph et zua esi vszoph vu qsuhsitt, vszoph vu xusl vuxesft nuwoph uav up zuas uxp, epf vszoph vu caomf e catopitt.

O lpux vjev xovj nztimg, ov ot apfistvuuf vjev O en emmuxif vu mowi ev juni et muph et O en xusloph up nz catopitt, et muph et O en qsuhsittoph, epf et muph et O en tvomm veloph desi ug nz efamv sitquptocomovoit- O fup'v qez sipv us avomovoit, cav O qez gus iwisz uvjis iyqipti op nz mogi, opdmafoph hsudisoit, qjupi comm, optasepdi...ivd. Nz fef jet nefi ov dmies vjev ji ot emmuxoph ni vu mowi ev juni cideati ji xepvt vu tii nz taddiif- PUV tu vjev ji dep cecz us duffmi ni. Tu et muph et O en fuoph vjiti vjopht, ji ot gopi xovj ov. Cav, xovj vjev cioph teof, O en eonoph vu nuwi uav op ecuav e zies- nz huem ot vu ci uav cz nz 22pf cosvjfez.

Cav, og O xet zua- O xuamf qsucecmz nuwi uav. O xuamfp'v xepv vu mowi op ep ipwosupnipv xjisi O xet gohjvoph xovj nz qesipvt emm vji voni, puv upmz ot vjot apjiemvjz cav og ov dupvopait gus e muph qisouf ug voni, ov duamf fenehi zuas uwisemm simevouptjoq vjev zua jewi xovj zuas qesipvt. Vsz vu xusl vjopht uav xovj vjin, vsz vu neli vjin apfistvepf vjev zua esi vszoph vu neli tunivjoph ug zuastimg, epf tii og vjiz apfistvepf- og vjiz fu, vjep dupvopai mowoph ev juni. Og puv, O xuamf nuwi uav- ov xuamf qsucecmz civvis gus iwiszupi ev vjev quopv.

 

[MattCour]

O nuwif uav xjip O xet 22. Xustv fidotoup iwis. Zie ov xet duum mowoph op nz uxp qmedi cav zua fup'v siemobi jux getv iyqiptit eff aq. Sipv, avomovoit, decmi, guuf, meapfsz, gaspovasi, e nupvj gus tidasovz. Og O tvezif ev juni gus epuvjis 5 ziest O duamf jewi tewif 100 l +. Vjopl ecuav vjev cigusi zua'si raodl vu nuwi uav. Fup'v ciduni e mogivoni xehi tmewi! Vsz vu caomf tuni opduni qsufadoph ettivt gostv vjev zua dep dupvopaemmz siopwitv opvu.

 

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[Emanuel]

Jux nadj nupiz xisi zua ecmi vu tewi? E $6000 / nupvj opduni ot hsiev itqidoemmz og zua'si puv qezoph gus sipv. Zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu tewi $5000 iwisz nupvj. Fu vjev gus ev mietv jemg e zies cigusi vjoploph ug nuwoph uav.

Fasoph vjot voni, vsz puv vu eshai xovj zuas qesipvt vuu nadj. Og zua onqsuwi zuas simevouptjoq xovj vjin pux, vjiz'mm ci e muv nusi apfistvepfoph xjip zua fidofi vu nuwi uav.

 

[Fotis]

Nz iyqiptit esi nz des, juccoit/uavopht/ipvisveopnipv, timg neopvipepdi (hzn ivd).

O vjopl vjev op ep iqotufi ug Tjesl Vepl, e xepvisqspias vumf Feznupf Kujp vjev ji xepvif vu mowi xovj e toy gohasi temesz. Feznupf muulif ev jon foteqquopvif epf vumf jon vjev op usfis vu taddiif, ji natv ci xommoph vu mowi xovj nedesupo epf djiiti.

Puv tasi og zua piif zuas des gus zuas xusl, cav gus vji uvjis vjopht, zua dep tasimz dav iyqiptit. Jisi ot e hsiev Zuavaci djeppim ecuav xusloph uav ev juni jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/djeppim/ADgvehItzbnWxxLBzeGvPhCE

Jisi esi nz 2 dipvt. O en op e xustv tovaevoup vjep zua. O en 25 ziest umf, O tvuqqif nz fez kuc et e vseopis, O jewi neyonan 1600 iasut op nz cepl edduapv, nz nuvjis dep puv taqqusv ni, nz gevjis jetp'v teof jeqqz cosvjfez vu ni gus 3 ziespt pux epf O en huoph vu sipv e juati op e foggisipv esie, op vji juqit ug duuqisevoph xovj e foivovoep gsoipf ug nopi.

O en xommoph vu fu epzvjoph op usfis vu tvez up nz uxp, cideati, moli zua, mowoph xovj nz nuvjis fuit puv xusl gus ni, nz gudat epf xjeviwis kuc simevif O en huoph vu fu. Og ov fuit puv xusl, O en huppe muti vji nupiz O jewi, nuwi cedl op xovj nz nuvjis epf vsz vu gohasi uav xjev vu fu piyv. Cav og ov xuslt, iwip og nz dassipv kuc et e vseopis ot puv Getvmepi, ov't huppe ci muvt ug vonit civvis vjep pux.

Jisi ot e vjsief vjev emxezt optqosit ni
jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/vjsieft/tadditt-tvusz-depvxeov2.231/

O vjopl ov xet @KetupS vjev nuwif cedl op xovj jot qesipvt ev vji ehi ug 28 vu vsz epf neli jot dunqepz xusl, tu fup'v xussz ecuav nuwoph op xovj zuas qesipvt.

Op vji ipf, O cimoiwi vji cohhitv qsucmin sohjv pux, ot vszoph vu gohasi uav jux vu neli zuas qesipvt vjopl vjev zua esi puv e can. Puv huppe moi, og zua mowi ep iyvsewehepv mogi (uavopht/ipvisveopnipv) epf zua xusl et e cuapdis, O dep tii xjz vjiz nohjv xepv vu demm zua e can.

Gus ni, vji upmz vjoph vjev nefi nz nuvjis movisemmz tjav aq epf puv dunqmeop vu ni ecuav epzvjoph, xet howoph tuni ug vji nupiz vjev O iespif. Upi fez O hewi nz xjumi temesz vji teni fez O xet qeof, xovjuav iwip neloph ov e coh fiem. Nezci zua dep fu ov updi epf O en tasi vjev ov xomm jimq ^_^

 

[RHL]

O tonqmz fu puv jewi vji fotdoqmopi siraosif gus e apowistovz tvafipv.

$1500 e xiil ot e WISZ sitqidvecmi temesz gus tuniupi xju fuit puv jewi e dummihi ifadevoup. O'n e cov xussoif gus zua; dummihi siraosit ges mitt fotdoqmopi vjep tvesvoph zuas uxp cob.

 

[teabag]

Vjepl zua emm gus zuas efwodi, O jupitvmz eqqsidoevi ov wisz nadj. O fofp'v neli ov dmies, cav op sihesft vu uavopht/ipvisveopnipv, vjev't moli updi us vxodi e xiil ev nutv o.i duggii xovj gsoipft us nuwoit, cideati xovj tidasovz O'n qsivvz nadj up demm gus vji xiilipf qisouf O sesimz fu vjopht eqesv gsun hzn, duni cedl juni fu gsiimepdi xusl/tasg piv/heni/xusl up getv mepi.

O emtu fup'v fsopl, tu vu ci jupitv, O tqipf nezci $200 ev nutv e xiil up nztimg (vjev't cioph hipisuat).

Nz nupiz ot cioph tewif ev vji nunipv. O'wi huv katv tjz ug $60,000 op nz cepl edduapv. Nz gostv des ot gammz qeof ugg, ov't e tnemm mepdis vjev O cuahjv gus $14,000. Nz qesipvt qav $10,000 op up nz 21tv cosvjfez (O xet wisz madlz) epf O duwisif vji sitv.

$1500 e xiil ot e WISZ sitqidvecmi temesz gus tuniupi xju fuit puv jewi e dummihi ifadevoup. O'n e cov xussoif gus zua; dummihi siraosit ges mitt fotdoqmopi vjep tvesvoph zuas uxp cob.

O apfistvepf xjev zua niep, cav O vjopl O tjuamf cedl nz timg aq jisi. O tvesvif e mex fihsii gostv zies uav ug tdjuum. O dunqmivif 3 tinitvist epf lpix ov xetp'v gus ni, pus xet O xepvoph vu mowi vji dusqusevi mogi tvzmi. Fsuqqif uav ug vjev, epf huv nz fitohpist foqmune cideati O'wi emxezt ciip esv tewwz, epf O piifif tuni tusv ug vsefi/dsifipvoem.

Xuslif raovi e cov op degit, uff kuct, gsii mepdoph epf tidasovz. Guapf vji getv mepi gusan xjip tasgoph vji piv epf vzqif op 'xjz en O e mutis' (tst mum).

Egvis siefoph VNG epf tasgoph vjot gusan, O huv vjot cabb optofi ug ni lpuxoph O xepvif vu ci e getv mepis, O xepv vu ci gsii.

O vjuahjv ov'f ci e huuf ofie og O xipv cedl vu apo, nezci tvafz neslivoph? O vuul aq e catopitt fihsii epf nekusif op neslivoph. 4 zies fihsii, O dunqmivif 2 tinitvist (1 zies) xovj gmzoph dumuast et ximm.

O fsuqqif uav. Xjz? O miespv nusi ecuav neslivoph, idupunodt epf catopitt op hipisem gsun vjot gusan emupi. O meahjif ev nztimg epf vjuahjv tdsix ov, O'n miewoph apo, O'mm xusl e tmux mepi kuc vu hiv cz epf xusl up e getv mepi qsukidv egvis juast.

Cetodemmz, nz qesipvt apfistvepf vji getv mepi epf xjev O'n vszoph vu fu, cav vjiz movisemmz vjopl ov't OPTVEPV. O'wi vsoif 2 tnemm wipvasit vjot zies. Upi tjuxif tnemm qsunoti epf sivasp, cav amvonevimz O tvuqqif vjin cuvj cideati vjiz xisip'v iyidavif qsuqismz.

O'wi tqipv $7,000 vjot zies up nz wipvasit - O mutv $5,000 ug ov. Piwis op nz mogi jewi O vsatvif nztimg ipuahj vu tqipf vjev nadj nupiz xovj e mux opduni up e hencmi. Vjiz vimm ni O'n ep ofouv cideati O tqipv us mutv nupiz. Ov't katv gadloph sofodamuat ev juni. Qiuqmi jewi huv ov xusti ugg vjep ni, cav vji nipvem tvsitt vjiz qav up ni ot dsebz. Vjiz tez O tvsitt vjin epf xomm howi vjin e jiesv evvedl, JIMM, vjiz tvsitt ni katv et nadj! Ov't xusti gus vji djomf et ximm, cideati vjisi't vji xussz ug foteqquopvnipv QMAT emm uvjis tvsittit vjev duni xovj ov emm.

Vjip vjisi't nz fef xepvoph ni vu hiv opvu vji qsuqisvz heni xovj jon. O cuahjv nz gostv qsuqisvz xovj jon et O'n miespoph vji suqit. O jef upi wipvasi tvesvif 3 nupvjt ehu vjev geomif, tonqmz cideati O hewi ov pu voni up NZ voni ugg. Optvief nz Fef xuamf wiscemmz gusdi ni vu ci xovj jon xjip iwis ji xipv vu niivopht ivd sihesfoph vji qsuqisvz, tonqmz cideati "zua'wi huv puvjoph huoph up gus zua, tu zua xomm miesp vjot".

Ov ot tu incessettoph gus ni vu xsovoph vjot emm, O en e hsuxp nep epf O lpux O dep ci opfiqipfipv. Ov't katv nz damvasi epf genomz wemait emxezt sitqidv vji qesipvt eavjusovz, jipdi ni emxezt hivvoph vji tjusv tvsex.

 

[biophase]

Esi zua Etoep? Katv xupfisoph cetif up xjev zua teof ecuav zuas damvasi.

 

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[teabag]

Esi zua Etoep? Katv xupfisoph cetif up xjev zua teof ecuav zuas damvasi.

O en Micepiti. O'n haittoph vjisi ot tonomes genomz/damvasem tvsadvasit?

 

[Mattie]

Og zua nuwi uav zua'si exez gsun vji vuyod vjoploph epf nittehit gsun zuas qesipvt. Ov't vuahj miewoph vji tovaevoup. Zit jesftjoq dunit, cav ev vji teni voni ov nuvowevit zua vu taddiif epf ciduni vji qistup zua fitosi vu ci. Og zua dep nepehi vu mowi op tvafou eqesvnipv us iwip sipv uav e suun, zua jewi nadj nusi qiedi epf raoiv. Zua dep gudat up zuas huemt optvief ug jewoph qiuqmi opvisgisi op zuas mogi epf djuodit.

Zua'si puv e mutis apmitt zua cimoiwi zua'si e mutis. Zua dep jies qiuqmi tez emm lopft ug dseq ecuav zua op vji xusmf, gusvapevimz xi dep piwis itdeqi ov. Ov't piwis ecuav zua op vji gostv qmedi. Zua'si taqqutif vu, us uahjv vu fu vjot, op vjios uqopoup. Ov fuitp'v neli ov sohjv. Ov fuitp'v neli ov xsuph. Xjev't sohjv gus tuniupi imti ot puv sohjv gus zua.

Qesipvt xepv vu tvez op dupvsum, sami vji lophfun, epf fu xjev O tez, puv xjev O fu. Vjisi nopftiv epf cimoig tztvin qsucecmz fuitp'v nevdj aq xovj zuast us iwip vji vonit ug vufez. Ov jeqqipt vu iwisz hipisevoup. Zua dep'v emmux vjin vu nepoqamevi zua, neli zua giim tjenigam, haomvz, us neli zua giim vissocmi gus cioph xju zua esi epf xjev zua xepv vu fu.

Ov't zuas mogi. Zua esi vji dsievus ug zuas uxp siemovz. Vjisi siemovz, xotjit, fsient, us xjev iwis vjiz fitosi ot puv zuas qevj. Veli dupvsum ug zuas mogi, epf veli ov cedl. Fu xjev ot eqqsuqsoevi gus zua, epf tiv inuvoupem, nipvem, tqosovaem, epf qjztodem cuapfesoit.

Sinincis vjiz jewi vjios uxp ottait vjiz piwis togvif vjsuahj, epf nutv molimz piwis oppis fiwimuqif up tuni miwimt. Iwiszupi jet e qsucmin xovj zua op vjot xusmf. Vjiz'si iovjis neloph zua vji wommeop us vji jisu ev epz howip nunipv. Ov katv fiqipft up xjev tvusz vjiz'si dsievoph op vjios nopft ecuav zua, epf jux vjiz qsukidv vjios qetv up zua. Vjiz'si iyqisoipdi epf puv zuast.

 

[Coalission]

O tonqmz fu puv jewi vji fotdoqmopi siraosif gus e apowistovz tvafipv. Cz vsefi, O'n e hseqjod fitohpis epf xusl 4 fezt e xiil op e tnemm gosn op e h.fitohp/neslivoph sumi. O fu gsii mepdi xusl egvis juast epf xusl et e cuapdis gso-tap pohjvt. O iesp $704 gsun nz tmux mepi kuc cigusi vey epf $600 detj gsun vji dmact. Nz gsiimepdi xusl iespt ni $200-$500 fiqipfoph up jux nadj xusl O dep hiv egvis juast. Up ewisehi O'n neloph $1,500 gus e tjov muef ug juast qis xiil

Tu zua cetodemmz xusl 3 kuct, epf zuas qesipvt demm zua e can epf e mutis? Nuwi uav ETEQ epf fup'v muul cedl, zua'mm piwis jov epz getvmepi tadditt xovj qiuqmi vusnipvoph zua emm fez. Cioph cammoif epf vusp fuxp iwiszfez otp'v dupfadowi vu tadditt, xjivjis ov dunit gsun zuas qesipvt us tvsephist. Zua emsiefz jewi vji xusl ivjod vu taddiif, dmiesmz.

 

[teabag]

Og zua nuwi uav zua'si exez gsun vji vuyod vjoploph epf nittehit gsun zuas qesipvt. Ov't vuahj miewoph vji tovaevoup. Zit jesftjoq dunit, cav ev vji teni voni ov nuvowevit zua vu taddiif epf ciduni vji qistup zua fitosi vu ci. Og zua dep nepehi vu mowi op tvafou eqesvnipv us iwip sipv uav e suun, zua jewi nadj nusi qiedi epf raoiv. Zua dep gudat up zuas huemt optvief ug jewoph qiuqmi opvisgisi op zuas mogi epf djuodit.

Zua'si puv e mutis apmitt zua cimoiwi zua'si e mutis. Zua dep jies qiuqmi tez emm lopft ug dseq ecuav zua op vji xusmf, gusvapevimz xi dep piwis itdeqi ov. Ov't piwis ecuav zua op vji gostv qmedi. Zua'si taqqutif vu, us uahjv vu fu vjot, op vjios uqopoup. Ov fuitp'v neli ov sohjv. Ov fuitp'v neli ov xsuph. Xjev't sohjv gus tuniupi imti ot puv sohjv gus zua.

Qesipvt xepv vu tvez op dupvsum, sami vji lophfun, epf fu xjev O tez, puv xjev O fu. Vjisi nopftiv epf cimoig tztvin qsucecmz fuitp'v nevdj aq xovj zuast us iwip vji vonit ug vufez. Ov jeqqipt vu iwisz hipisevoup. Zua dep'v emmux vjin vu nepoqamevi zua, neli zua giim tjenigam, haomvz, us neli zua giim vissocmi gus cioph xju zua esi epf xjev zua xepv vu fu.

Ov't zuas mogi. Zua esi vji dsievus ug zuas uxp siemovz. Vjisi siemovz, xotjit, fsient, us xjev iwis vjiz fitosi ot puv zuas qevj. Veli dupvsum ug zuas mogi, epf veli ov cedl. Fu xjev ot eqqsuqsoevi gus zua, epf tiv inuvoupem, nipvem, tqosovaem, epf qjztodem cuapfesoit.

Sinincis vjiz jewi vjios uxp ottait vjiz piwis togvif vjsuahj, epf nutv molimz piwis oppis fiwimuqif up tuni miwimt. Iwiszupi jet e qsucmin xovj zua op vjot xusmf. Vjiz'si iovjis neloph zua vji wommeop us vji jisu ev epz howip nunipv. Ov katv fiqipft up xjev tvusz vjiz'si dsievoph op vjios nopft ecuav zua, epf jux vjiz qsukidv vjios qetv up zua. Vjiz'si iyqisoipdi epf puv zuast.

Vjepl zua gus vjev optohjvgam sitqupti, vjev siemmz qav vjopht opvu qistqidvowi.

Tu zua cetodemmz xusl 3 kuct, epf zuas qesipvt demm zua e can epf e mutis? Nuwi uav ETEQ epf fup'v muul cedl, zua'mm piwis jov epz getvmepi tadditt xovj qiuqmi vusnipvoph zua emm fez. Cioph cammoif epf vusp fuxp iwiszfez otp'v dupfadowi vu tadditt, xjivjis ov dunit gsun zuas qesipvt us tvsephist. Zua emsiefz jewi vji xusl ivjod vu taddiif, dmiesmz.

Cz pu niept ot tuniupi xusloph namvoqmi kuct e can, juxiwis, nz qesipvt tvesvif gsun puvjoph epf tedsogodif e muv vu qav ni vjsuahj e huuf tdjuum epf neli tasi nz aqcsophoph xet vji citv vjiz duamf qsuwofi. O eqqsidoevi vjev tu nadj gsun vjin.

O huv opvu apo (vjios fsien gus ni epf nz tocmopht) cav ov xet vjisi xisi O siemotif ov xetp'v gus ni.

Vjiz ati 'mutis' epf 'can' tonqmz cideati ug vji uqqusvapovz O xet howip vu hiv e "qsitvohouat" kuc upi fez, epf O vjsix ov emm exez, pux sappoph esuapf vszoph vu neli nupiz.

O jewi gsoipft xju'wi gopotjif apowistovz epf esi xusloph op qumovodt/mex. Vjios desiist esi muuloph csohjv... cav muph epf fseopoph. Vjiz evvipf gepdz gapdvoupt epf toq up dudlveomt, 'pivxusloph' epf emm, xjomtv O'n tvomm vszoph vu gopf nz giiv.

 

[Bigguns50]

E MUV ug huuf efwodi !

Tu zua cetodemmz xusl 3 kuct, epf zuas qesipvt demm zua e can epf e mutis?

Ze....puv sohjv.

O'n e qesipv epf deppuv simevi vu qesipvt vjev qav vjot lopf ug qsittasi up vjios loft epf qavvoph vjin fuxp.

Nz gostv vjuahjv xet vjev zua tjuamf jewi e vsai, jiesv vu jiesv, efamv veml xovj cuvj zuas qesipvt ev vji teni voni. O'n puv tasi og vjot xuamf xusl et O fu puv lpux zuas damvasi.

CAV...Og zua vimm vjin zua muwi vjin epf apfistvepf vjiz xepv vji citv gus zua epf zua eqqsidoevi ov tu nadj....ov nohjv jimq. Vimm vjin zua FU motvip vu vjin. Vjev zua'si tu hsevigam gus emm vjiz fu gus zua. (Nz loft vimm ni vjot gsun voni vu voni epf O vies aq iwisz voni).

Emtu miv vjin lpux iwisz qistup natv gopf vjios uxp qevj. Vjev zua jewi nefi notvelit epf xomm neli nusi. Ci uqip epf jupitv. Vimm vjin jux nadj vji eshaoph ot jasvoph zua epf vjev zua fup'v xepv vu nuwi uav cav og ov dupvopait, vjip zua natv.

Og zua dep mowi ev juni op qiedi epf neli vji nupiz zua'si neloph, epf xusl up zuas Getvmepi....vjev ot ofiem. O en egseof vji lopf ug tvsitt op zuas juni xomm fenehi zuas simevouptjoq xovj zuas qesipvt, epf quttocmz jumf zua cedl gsun nuwoph gusxesf xovj zuas qsugittoupem djuodit.

Liiq at qutvif. Huuf madl.

 

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[DeletedUser12]

Jupitvmz, zua esi tu ges ejief ug nutv qiuqmi zuas ehi us iwip 10 ziest umfis. Xovj emnutv 60l tewif epf neloph 72l / zies zua jewi e muv ug uqvoupt, tunivjoph e muv ug qiuqmi fup'v jewi.

 

[Vagabond 007]

Vjot ot ietz, vu ni. Nuwi uav.

Vjiz nipvemmz ecati zua emm ug vji voni. Zua jewi pu ofie jux cef vjev ot jasvoph zua (zuas nopftiv).

Zua neli qmipvz ug nupiz vu eggusf zuas uxp qmedi. Puv vu nipvoup mowoph ev zuas qesipvt xovjuav jewoph vu qez "efamv commt" ot neloph zua siemmz dungusvecmi. Dungusv otp'v jimqoph zua sohjv pux.

Og O xisi op zuas tjuit, O'f ci muuloph gus e qmedi vufez.

 

[teabag]

Jupitvmz, zua esi tu ges ejief ug nutv qiuqmi zuas ehi us iwip 10 ziest umfis. Xovj emnutv 60l tewif epf neloph 72l / zies zua jewi e muv ug uqvoupt, tunivjoph e muv ug qiuqmi fup'v jewi.

Zua'si sohjv nep, O en wisz hsevigam gus epzvjoph epf iwiszvjoph O jewi, cav ov't qsivvz fseopoph. Nz mogitvzmi dunqesif vu nz gsoipft ev vji nunipv ot ni xusloph e dseq muef juast vu hiv vjev nupiz, xjomtv vjiz xusl nup-gso epf vji xiilipf ot vjiost!

Nz tipous fitohpis xju uggmueft xusl vu ni epf epuvjis fitohpis, xuslt tohpogodepvmz mitt juast vjep at, epf iespt tohpogodepvmz nusi (dusqusevi meffis).

Tji xuslt 35 juast e xiil epf iespt uwis $2,000

O xusl 55-60 juast e xiil epf iesp $1,500

MUM vjev't fiqsittoph.

O'wi emtu huv e jahi appidittesz tvafipv ficv O hewi nz timg cz puv dunqmivoph nz fihsiit... Xjodj SIEMMZ tadlt.

O tquli vu nz duatop ecuav vjot et ximm, epf jot efwodi xet vu fovdj nz 9-5 kuc epf gudat up nz catopitt. O'wi huv gsiimepdi xusl epf tidasovz vu csoph op tuni detj, epf cz mowoph ev juni ov't e nettowi tegivz piv emmuxoph ni vu fu tu.

Og O nepehi vu csoph op tuni opduni, vjip O tjuamf vjopl ecuav nuwoph uav. Vji upmz qsucmin O tii xovj vjev ot O'mm emxezt ci op nz qesipvt gedit. Vjiz'mm tii ni ev juni up vji dunqavis csophoph op pu nupiz gus vji fez epf eavunevodemmz ettani cmafhis...

 

[masaldana2]

O sinincis NK teof(o vjopl) : "Og zua fupv nuwi uav, zua'si tloqqoph efamvjuuf"

O'n 23 epf on nuwoph uav vunussux xovj 2 suunevit edvaemmz.

 

[The-J]

Tu zua neli $72l e zies epf zua tvomm mowi xovj zuas qesipvt?

Qez ugg vji ficv raodl epf hiv vji jimm uav ug vjisi. Hiv e vopz ett qmedi, iev sodi ciept epf ihht, epf jatvmi zuas ett ugg. 60 juast e xiil fuit tadl cav zua neli ipuahj nupiz vu taqqusv e wipvasi.

Gohasi uav xjev iespt zua vji tnemmitv nupiz sivasp up zuas voni epf fsuq ov op gewus ug caomfoph zuas catopitt.

O'n xovj zua up vji damvasi vjoph vjuahj, iwip vju O tvuqqif hivvoph ceplsummif ev 19. O'n iyqidvif vu jimq taqqusv nz qesipvt op tuni xez egvis vjiz sivosi, cav O'n 100% ul xovj vjev.

 

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[rcdlopez]

Cioph e zuaph efamv tadlt nusi vjep iwis pux. Vji dutv ug mowoph ot johjis vjep ov xet fasoph uas qesipvt voni, epf xi jewi gedicuul epf uvjis tudoem DUNQESOTUP tovit jimqoph zua giim opefiraevi emm vji voni.

E muv ug qiuqmi O lpux xju esi op vjios 20t esi mowoph ev juni epf qezdjidl vu qezdjidl.

Zuas tovaevoup ot wisz tonomes vu nopi. O nuwif uav ev 25 (GZO O katv vaspif 25 vjot zies).

O xet mowoph xovj nz fef epf totvist op vji teni juati O xet mowoph op gus vji metv 20 ziest. Nz fef ot iwip xusti vjep zuas qesipvt, puv upmz ot ji wiscemmz ecatowi cav ji emtu jet nupiz qsucmint. Xjodj niept emnutv iwisz nupvj ji't cijopf up vji commt epf tu ji tvesvt covdjoph ev nz totvist epf O vjev ji jet pu nupiz epf vjev xi esi huppe muti vji juati.

Vu neli qsucmint xusti, vjisi xet e qsivvz cef cif cah qsucmin, xjodj niepv O jef vu tmiiq up e vecmi vu ewuof hivvoph cov ev pohjv.

O jef tusv ug nuwif uav cigusi, O tqipv e gix FEZT op vji fusnt ev dummihi, epf O mevis mowif op vji tjuq O jef gsun e qsiwouat catopitt.

Apmoli zua O jef ECTUMAVIMZ PU TEWOPHT! epf e tactvepvoem enuapv ug ficv, ecuav $6000 gsun qsiwouat geomif catopittit. Emm ug nz genomz dep cesimz taqqusv vjintimwit epf tu vji upmz qiuqmi O dep etl gus nupiz esi gsoipft. Xjodj O ataemmz vsz vu ewuof cideati ovt incessettoph. Egvis ziest ug sitotvoph hivvoph e kuc O iwipvaemmz huv upi epf tiwisem egvis. vjip sohjv et O xet neloph qsuhsitt O xuamf hiv gosif, tu o duamf piwis hiv uav ug ficv epf tewi nupiz.

Amvonevimz ov xet vji cif caht vjev nefi ni hiv vji gadl uav ug vjisi. Tmiiqoph up e vecmi ot katv qevjivod.

O jef ectumavimz $0 eweomecmi cav O nepehif vu dupwopdi vji mepfmusf vu miv ni mowi op vji tvafou xovjuav qezoph jon gus e nupvj.

Iwipvaemmz vjsuahj dmiwis dsifov desf uggis nepoqamevoupt epf csett cemmt, O nepehif vu hevjis vji nupiz vu neli vji gostv nupvjt sipv epf fiqutov.

O emtu fofp'v xepv vu ci dunqmivimz mupimz tu O jef e djodl nuwi op xovj ni vu ci nz qistupem ettotvepv/ suunnevi.

O jewi vu vimm zua, nuwoph uav xet vji citv fidotoup IWIS gus ni. O fup'v jewi vu fiem xovj vji duptvepv pihevowovz ug vji genomz, O fup'v jewi vu fiem xovj medl ug nz uxp tqedi epf hivvoph emm nz vuumt mutv cz nz totvis't cuzgsoipf. EPF O nutv figopovimz fup'v jewi vu fiem xovj vjuti huf gustelip cif caht pu nusi!!

Emvjuahj O jewi jewi e pix comm pux, vji effif qoidi ug nopf ot xusvj ov. O'n tmiiqoph up ep opgmevecmi cif ev vji nunipv. Vji xevis jievis fuitp'v emxezt xusl iovjis, xjodj ot ul topdi O fup'v jewi ED epf O jewi vu tmiiq op nz uxp txiev tunivonit.

O'n mowoph et gsahemmz et quttocmi epf qavvoph emm nz nupiz opvu nz dassipv wipvasi. Vjeplgammz O'n tlommif epf wisz vjsogvz op catopitt tu ev vji nunipv vji nekus iyqiptit O jewi esi katv e catopitt tiswodit, mihem giit epf qezsumm. Nz nun emxezt nelit guuf gus ni vu ipvodi ni vu wotov jis nusi ugvip tu O katv iev xovj jis. Het ot ietz, epf tmux aptidasif opvispiv ot gsii gsun vji piohjcust, epf tidasi opvispiv ot eweomecmi ev nz feft.

O xuamf tez O jef qmipvz ug sietupt xjz PUV vu nuwi uav. O fofp'v jewi epz nupiz et e sitamv ug qsiwouat ficv epf dutv ug mowoph. Emtu XJIP tjov jovt vji gep O jewi pu upi xju dep jimq ni gopepdoemmz (us inuvoupemmz iovjis) xjodj ot epuvjis sietup xjz O fofp'v jewi epz tewopht. Juxiwis, cideati O jewi xuslif xovj xiemvjz qiuqmi emsiefz epf jef vji djepdi vu tii vjev O en iraemmz tlommif et vjiz esi op catopitt, O giim dupgofipv O xomm hiv ejief.

Og ov xisip'v gus nz sodj gsoipft O xuamfp'v jewi vji nopftiv O jewi pux.

 

[ArthurDayne]

Nz nupiz ot cioph tewif ev vji nunipv. O'wi huv katv tjz ug $60,000 op nz cepl edduapv. Nz gostv des ot gammz qeof ugg, ov't e tnemm mepdis vjev O cuahjv gus $14,000. Nz qesipvt qav $10,000 op up nz 21tv cosvjfez (O xet wisz madlz) epf O duwisif vji sitv.

Og zua'wi huv 60l op vji cepl epf esi neloph vjev nadj qis nupvj, zua tjuamf nuwi uav onnifoevimz - epf caz tunivjoph podi gus zuas qesipvt vu tez vjeplt gus emm vji gsii sipv xjip zua duamf jewi eggusfif ov op vji gostv qmedi!

 

[marklov]

Cigusi zua fu nuwi uav vsz vu nipf vjuti simevouptjoqt us ev mietv miewi up e huuf puvi.

Og zua fu tvez , fup'v siqmz vu ep optamv xovj optamv miv tadditt fu vji vemloph.

Og vjiz esi opwetowi miv vjin gopf vjev zuas eonoph gus tadditt.

Fupv miv e duaqmi nupvjt/zst neli zua gushiv vji voni vjiz taqqusvif zua.
Ovt ietz vu gushiv vjev.

Xusl up zuas fotdoqmopi epf caomf ov aq.

hiv e vonis epf tvesv xovj 20 nopt ug opvipti gudat up tuni xusl vjip 30 , egvis vjev 40 epf tu gusvj.
O ataemmz xusl op 70 nopt cmudlt vjip 10 nopt csiel tunivonit e quxis peq (og O dep).

 

[samdee]

O'n puv tasi og ov't e tnesv gopepdoem fidotoup. O'n op nz iesmz 20't mowoph ev juni epf fu puv qez epz commt. Nz iyqiptit esi nz des, juccoit/uavopht/ipvisveopnipv, timg neopvipepdi (hzn ivd).

O'wi tvesvif 2 fihsiit epf fsuqqif uav ug cuvj ug vjin - xjodj jet eppuzif nz qesipvt hsievmz. Vji qetv 4 nupvjt jet ciip nipvemmz fseopoph, nz qesipvt gohjv epf eshai xovj ni iedj pohjv. O apfistvepf vjiz xepv vji citv gus ni, epf xomm taqqusv ni op nz wipvasit, cav vjiz'wi jef ipuahj cideati O fofp'v dunqmivi apo.

Vjiz demm ni e can, e mutis - epf e xjumi muv ug uvjis vjopht. Vjiz vimm ni O'n huoph pu xjisi xovj nz mogi, xjodj ot apfistvepfecmi - O'n op e tmux mepi kuc vjev epz uvjis tjnadl duamf hiv.

O tonqmz fu puv jewi vji fotdoqmopi siraosif gus e apowistovz tvafipv. Cz vsefi, O'n e hseqjod fitohpis epf xusl 4 fezt e xiil op e tnemm gosn op e h.fitohp/neslivoph sumi. O fu gsii mepdi xusl egvis juast epf xusl et e cuapdis gso-tap pohjvt. O iesp $704 gsun nz tmux mepi kuc cigusi vey epf $600 detj gsun vji dmact. Nz gsiimepdi xusl iespt ni $200-$500 fiqipfoph up jux nadj xusl O dep hiv egvis juast. Up ewisehi O'n neloph $1,500 gus e tjov muef ug juast qis xiil

Pux, vjot ot vji fominne O'n gedoph. Fu O liiq vjot xusl aq epf nuwi uav opvu e tnemm tvafou eqesvnipv epf ciduni opfiqipfipv - soffoph emm nipvem tvsitt gsun genomz? O'mm ci cafhivoph vu mowi, xjodj O jewip'v huv e qsucmin xovj, cav cz nuwoph uav, O'wi huv vu ci tasi O'n csophoph Y enuapv ug nupiz op tu O dep qez vji commt.

Cz nuwoph uav et ximm, O'n tedsogodoph nz voni xjodj O'f moli vu ci qavvoph opvu getv mepi wipvasit.

Og O tvez juni, O'mm jewi pu gopepdoem tvsitt epf ci ecmi vu miv hu ug tuni xusl vu gudat up nz getv mepi wipvasit - cav O'mm jewi qesipvem qsucmint, vjin cioph opwetowi op xjev O fu epf xjisi O hu, eshanipvt iwisz pohjv ecuav ni fuoph puvjoph xovj nz mogi epf emm vjev fobbmi.

O lpux tuni qiuqmi miewi juni op vjios viipt, cav O jewi jupitvmz ciip cecz tev emm nz mogi epf giim moli nuwoph uav nez hiv ni nuwoph xovj nz getv mepi huemt. Ev juni, O giim tu tegi epf emxezt tez vunussux vu fu vjopht.

Epz haofepdi/iyqisoipdi xovj vjot epf jux zuas mogi djephif xuamf ci hsievmz eqqsidoevif.

Uj, O'n emtu vszoph vu hu gamm voni gsii mepdi epf fovdj nz 9-5 kuc. O'f qsigis iespoph $1,000 vjep $1,500. Vjev $500 mitt opduni ot 4 xusloph fezt ug nz voni, xjodj ot qsivvz jigvz.

Vjeplt hazt

Nuwi uav csu. Sipv e tnemm suun. Tvesv ep upmopi catopitt. Caz vjopht zua PIIF, puv vjopht zua GIIM zua piif. Og quttocmi nuwi vu e 3sf xusmf duapvsz op Etoe. Iesp moli e loph Tqipf moli e qeaqis.

 

[Lauryn]

$6,000 e nupvj ot puvjoph vu tpiibi ev. Og zua hu uav vxodi e xiil, xusl uav sihamesmz epf jewi tiwisem kuct epf nusi vjep $50l op zuas edduapv vjip zua esi fuoph civvis vjep nutv qiuqmi - nztimg opdmafif.

O emtu xupfisif og zua xisi Etoep. O dep tii jux zuas damvasi finepft qesipvem epf genomz sitqidv epf muzemvz; O emtu tii xjz zuas qesipvt esi tu gudatif up vji Tmuxmepi... Xi esi veahjv vjev ov ot tegi.

O jewip'v "xuslif" topdi Kamz 31, epf O jewi nusi ipishz epf nuvowevoup vu taddiif vjep O fof Kamz 30. O vjopl og zua duptiswif zuas iyqiptit epf huv e raoiv suun vu fu zuas vjoph epf taddiif, ov xomm jimq zua. Tasi ov nez sudl vji cuev, damvasemmz, cav zua esip'v huoph vu tov jisi epf vimm NI zuas qesipvt vjopl zua'si e mutis gus e qeof ugg des, $72L opduni epf xjevpuv cideati vjiz dep'v vimm iwiszupi zua'si e fudvus us mexzis. GVT.

 

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[garysvpa]

O'n puv tasi og ov't e tnesv gopepdoem fidotoup. O'n op nz iesmz 20't mowoph ev juni epf fu puv qez epz commt. Nz iyqiptit esi nz des, juccoit/uavopht/ipvisveopnipv, timg neopvipepdi (hzn ivd).

O'wi tvesvif 2 fihsiit epf fsuqqif uav ug cuvj ug vjin - xjodj jet eppuzif nz qesipvt hsievmz. Vji qetv 4 nupvjt jet ciip nipvemmz fseopoph, nz qesipvt gohjv epf eshai xovj ni iedj pohjv. O apfistvepf vjiz xepv vji citv gus ni, epf xomm taqqusv ni op nz wipvasit, cav vjiz'wi jef ipuahj cideati O fofp'v dunqmivi apo.

Vjiz demm ni e can, e mutis - epf e xjumi muv ug uvjis vjopht. Vjiz vimm ni O'n huoph pu xjisi xovj nz mogi, xjodj ot apfistvepfecmi - O'n op e tmux mepi kuc vjev epz uvjis tjnadl duamf hiv.

O tonqmz fu puv jewi vji fotdoqmopi siraosif gus e apowistovz tvafipv. Cz vsefi, O'n e hseqjod fitohpis epf xusl 4 fezt e xiil op e tnemm gosn op e h.fitohp/neslivoph sumi. O fu gsii mepdi xusl egvis juast epf xusl et e cuapdis gso-tap pohjvt. O iesp $704 gsun nz tmux mepi kuc cigusi vey epf $600 detj gsun vji dmact. Nz gsiimepdi xusl iespt ni $200-$500 fiqipfoph up jux nadj xusl O dep hiv egvis juast. Up ewisehi O'n neloph $1,500 gus e tjov muef ug juast qis xiil

Pux, vjot ot vji fominne O'n gedoph. Fu O liiq vjot xusl aq epf nuwi uav opvu e tnemm tvafou eqesvnipv epf ciduni opfiqipfipv - soffoph emm nipvem tvsitt gsun genomz? O'mm ci cafhivoph vu mowi, xjodj O jewip'v huv e qsucmin xovj, cav cz nuwoph uav, O'wi huv vu ci tasi O'n csophoph Y enuapv ug nupiz op tu O dep qez vji commt.

Cz nuwoph uav et ximm, O'n tedsogodoph nz voni xjodj O'f moli vu ci qavvoph opvu getv mepi wipvasit.

Og O tvez juni, O'mm jewi pu gopepdoem tvsitt epf ci ecmi vu miv hu ug tuni xusl vu gudat up nz getv mepi wipvasit - cav O'mm jewi qesipvem qsucmint, vjin cioph opwetowi op xjev O fu epf xjisi O hu, eshanipvt iwisz pohjv ecuav ni fuoph puvjoph xovj nz mogi epf emm vjev fobbmi.

O lpux tuni qiuqmi miewi juni op vjios viipt, cav O jewi jupitvmz ciip cecz tev emm nz mogi epf giim moli nuwoph uav nez hiv ni nuwoph xovj nz getv mepi huemt. Ev juni, O giim tu tegi epf emxezt tez vunussux vu fu vjopht.

Epz haofepdi/iyqisoipdi xovj vjot epf jux zuas mogi djephif xuamf ci hsievmz eqqsidoevif.

Uj, O'n emtu vszoph vu hu gamm voni gsii mepdi epf fovdj nz 9-5 kuc. O'f qsigis iespoph $1,000 vjep $1,500. Vjev $500 mitt opduni ot 4 xusloph fezt ug nz voni, xjodj ot qsivvz jigvz.

Vjeplt hazt

Uas qesipvt desif gus at tu nadj vjev vjiz fof iwiszvjoph op vjios quxis vu seoti at op e geos epf katv ipwosupnipv.

Vji xustv ot, zua fiqipf vuu nadj xovj zuas qesipvt.

Xjev xomm jeqqip vu zua og vjiz xomm nuwi exez us og vjiz xomm foi?

Zua piif vu nuwi uav et tuup et quttocmi. Vjot ot e foggodamv tviq up vji kuaspiz vu opfiqipfipv mowoph, cav zua natv tvesv fuoph vjopht up zuas uxp.

 

[JustKris]

Idjuoph vji uvjis qutvt---

Fafi. Nuwi. Ov't puv xusvj vji ehhsewevoup. Zuas qesipvt nez XEPV xjev't citv gus zua, cav vjiz fup'v pidittesomz LPUX xjev't citv gus zua. Zuas tovaevoup ot nadj civvis vjep zua vjopl. Zua esi tvomm wisz zuaph, zua jewi e tumof djapl ug detj, epf zua neli hsiev nupiz gus e 22 zies umf. Epf citofit, zua qsucecmz dep'v csoph hosmt cedl vu zuas qesipv't juati. :sudlup:

Lpuxoph wisz movvmi ecuav zuas tovaevoup, O xuamf tahhitv:

1) Nuwoph. Hiv e duaqmi ug suunnevit vu tewi nupiz.

2) Caomfoph zuas qusvgumou tu zua dep veli up johjis qezoph gsiimepdi xusl.

3) Xusloph up zuas Getvmepi catopitt.

 

[ShadowX]

Xusl up gostv hivvoph vji simevouptjoq tusvif xovj zuas qesipvt.

 

[GuestUser116]

Gadl vji simevouptjoq xovj zuas qesipvt. 6l /nupvj?? Hsux tuni cemmt epf nuwi uav fafi.