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Probably a shot in the dark, but does someone have experience with recycling horse manure?

Some of my relatives own a large horse stable, up to now they gave their manure to the farmer next door, who used it as dung. Due to new laws in Europe, they have to change how the farmer keeps the manure until he uses it, and they also cut some of the support payments for it, so all in all, he says it's too much effort for him to keep using the horse manure.
The only current possibility to get rid of the piles of shit is by paying a company to pick it up and dispose of it, which is really expensive.

I thought there must be a better way, especially because horse manure is pretty good dung once it is composted. So I started to research and found some opportunities.

1) Compost it, if you put it on a field, mix the piles every day, and make sure that everything is alright (heat inside, worms, and whatever) it would be ok to just keep it outside without having to build a specific place to store it. The downside is that the time window is pretty tight and you would have to either package it every 6 weeks or have a buyer for the manure all the time because keeping it outside longer would result in fines.

2) Composting it in containers. I found a company which builds special containers that control all the factors like heat, mixing it through and all that stuff. Pretty expensive, and they won't fit a lot, but also almost no hassle. Pretty much shit in and compost out.

The upside of the compost methods is that, like mentioned, composted horse manure is really good dung and farmers and gardeners love it. So it could be packaged and sold.

3) Drying and burning. The manure is a mix of shit and either wood chips or straw. It can be dried and burned to generate heat, warm water, or even electricity. From my research that would be the cleanest way. The heat of the oven dries the incoming manure before it gets burned, all the excess heat can be used to heat up houses, or can be turned into electricity and sold to the city.
The downside is that I would need the whole system which isn't that cheap and then I would need to either transform it into electricity or find some people who want to buy the heat.
I really like that this could be completely automated though.

4) Turn it into biogas. Horse manure can be used in biogas plants, so if I'd build one I could sell the gas. All in all a good idea if it weren't for the steep price. Still, something I thought I should mention.

Those are the 4 options I found from my research that would turn the shit into something that could be sold. Once such a system is set up, getting the manure shouldn't be a problem. A horse produces about 30kg of manure per day (for comparison 1kg of composted manure sells for about 2.50€). I asked my relatives how other stables are doing it, and they either use it themselves, if they also have fields, or they pay to get it picked up by the local garbage disposal company, paying something in the 4-figure range per month depending on how many horses they have.
With one of the above systems running, I could probably only make them pay for the truck to pick up the truck and then sell the final product, either dung, energy, heat, or gas.
In a 5km radius of my relatives stable (around 50 horses) are 4 more stables with also between 20 and 40 horses each. That easily would be enough to fill all the need to power a system to recycle it.
The only thing that keeps me worrying is the steep startup cost, I would need to buy the whole machinery and a plot of land at the minimum, and I don't have a large sum of money lying around (just finished university last year and started saving up a bit).

I have about 30k€ to work with which I saved up in the last year and about 1.5k a month of disposable income I could put into this. But I am not sure if it is worth it, or if there are things I am overlooking.

I would love some feedback and different points of few!
 
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Qsucecmz e tjuv op vji fesl, cav fuit tuniupi jewi iyqisoipdi xovj sidzdmoph justi nepasi?

Tuni ug nz simevowit uxp e meshi justi tvecmi, aq vu pux vjiz hewi vjios nepasi vu vji gesnis piyv fuus, xju atif ov et faph. Fai vu pix mext op Iasuqi, vjiz jewi vu djephi jux vji gesnis liiqt vji nepasi apvom ji atit ov, epf vjiz emtu dav tuni ug vji taqqusv qeznipvt gus ov, tu emm op emm, ji tezt ov't vuu nadj iggusv gus jon vu liiq atoph vji justi nepasi.
Vji upmz dassipv quttocomovz vu hiv sof ug vji qomit ug tjov ot cz qezoph e dunqepz vu qodl ov aq epf fotquti ug ov, xjodj ot siemmz iyqiptowi.

O vjuahjv vjisi natv ci e civvis xez, itqidoemmz cideati justi nepasi ot qsivvz huuf faph updi ov ot dunqutvif. Tu O tvesvif vu sitiesdj epf guapf tuni uqqusvapovoit.

1) Dunqutv ov, og zua qav ov up e goimf, noy vji qomit iwisz fez, epf neli tasi vjev iwiszvjoph ot emsohjv (jiev optofi, xusnt, epf xjeviwis) ov xuamf ci ul vu katv liiq ov uavtofi xovjuav jewoph vu caomf e tqidogod qmedi vu tvusi ov. Vji fuxptofi ot vjev vji voni xopfux ot qsivvz vohjv epf zua xuamf jewi vu iovjis qedlehi ov iwisz 6 xiilt us jewi e cazis gus vji nepasi emm vji voni cideati liiqoph ov uavtofi muphis xuamf sitamv op gopit.

2) Dunqutvoph ov op dupveopist. O guapf e dunqepz xjodj caomft tqidoem dupveopist vjev dupvsum emm vji gedvust moli jiev, noyoph ov vjsuahj epf emm vjev tvagg. Qsivvz iyqiptowi, epf vjiz xup'v gov e muv, cav emtu emnutv pu jettmi. Qsivvz nadj tjov op epf dunqutv uav.

Vji aqtofi ug vji dunqutv nivjuft ot vjev, moli nipvoupif, dunqutvif justi nepasi ot siemmz huuf faph epf gesnist epf hesfipist muwi ov. Tu ov duamf ci qedlehif epf tumf.

3) Fszoph epf caspoph. Vji nepasi ot e noy ug tjov epf iovjis xuuf djoqt us tvsex. Ov dep ci fsoif epf caspif vu hipisevi jiev, xesn xevis, us iwip imidvsodovz. Gsun nz sitiesdj vjev xuamf ci vji dmiepitv xez. Vji jiev ug vji uwip fsoit vji opdunoph nepasi cigusi ov hivt caspif, emm vji iyditt jiev dep ci atif vu jiev aq juatit, us dep ci vaspif opvu imidvsodovz epf tumf vu vji dovz.
Vji fuxptofi ot vjev O xuamf piif vji xjumi tztvin xjodj otp'v vjev djieq epf vjip O xuamf piif vu iovjis vseptgusn ov opvu imidvsodovz us gopf tuni qiuqmi xju xepv vu caz vji jiev.
O siemmz moli vjev vjot duamf ci dunqmivimz eavunevif vjuahj.

4) Vasp ov opvu couhet. Justi nepasi dep ci atif op couhet qmepvt, tu og O'f caomf upi O duamf timm vji het. Emm op emm e huuf ofie og ov xisip'v gus vji tviiq qsodi. Tvomm, tunivjoph O vjuahjv O tjuamf nipvoup.

Vjuti esi vji 4 uqvoupt O guapf gsun nz sitiesdj vjev xuamf vasp vji tjov opvu tunivjoph vjev duamf ci tumf. Updi tadj e tztvin ot tiv aq, hivvoph vji nepasi tjuamfp'v ci e qsucmin. E justi qsufadit ecuav 30lh ug nepasi qis fez (gus dunqesotup 1lh ug dunqutvif nepasi timmt gus ecuav 2.50€). O etlif nz simevowit jux uvjis tvecmit esi fuoph ov, epf vjiz iovjis ati ov vjintimwit, og vjiz emtu jewi goimft, us vjiz qez vu hiv ov qodlif aq cz vji mudem hescehi fotqutem dunqepz, qezoph tunivjoph op vji 4-gohasi sephi qis nupvj fiqipfoph up jux nepz justit vjiz jewi.
Xovj upi ug vji ecuwi tztvint sappoph, O duamf qsucecmz upmz neli vjin qez gus vji vsadl vu qodl aq vji vsadl epf vjip timm vji gopem qsufadv, iovjis faph, ipishz, jiev, us het.
Op e 5ln sefoat ug nz simevowit tvecmi (esuapf 50 justit) esi 4 nusi tvecmit xovj emtu civxiip 20 epf 40 justit iedj. Vjev ietomz xuamf ci ipuahj vu gomm emm vji piif vu quxis e tztvin vu sidzdmi ov.
Vji upmz vjoph vjev liiqt ni xusszoph ot vji tviiq tvesvaq dutv, O xuamf piif vu caz vji xjumi nedjopisz epf e qmuv ug mepf ev vji noponan, epf O fup'v jewi e meshi tan ug nupiz mzoph esuapf (katv gopotjif apowistovz metv zies epf tvesvif tewoph aq e cov).

O jewi ecuav 30l€ vu xusl xovj xjodj O tewif aq op vji metv zies epf ecuav 1.5l e nupvj ug fotqutecmi opduni O duamf qav opvu vjot. Cav O en puv tasi og ov ot xusvj ov, us og vjisi esi vjopht O en uwismuuloph.

O xuamf muwi tuni giifcedl epf foggisipv quopvt ug gix!
Duamf zua qsufadi tunivjoph xjodj atit vji faph us vji nepasi tvs8 exez?
Xjz puv dav vji noffmi nep epf hsux qmepvt gus vji nesliv?
 
Duamf zua qsufadi tunivjoph xjodj atit vji faph us vji nepasi tvs8 exez?
Xjz puv dav vji noffmi nep epf hsux qmepvt gus vji nesliv?

Vji "sex" nepasi xuamf casp vji suuvt ug vji qmepvt. Emtu, vji dunqutvoph hivt sof ug xiif tiift epf emm lopft ug qesetovi ihht. Og zua xepv vu ati ov up qmepvt, zua fup'v siemmz hiv esuapf ev mietv 6 xiilt vu dunqutv ov.

O fofp'v vjopl ecuav hsuxoph qmepvt op vji gostv qmedi, O jewi vu muul opvu vjev.
 
Vji "sex" nepasi xuamf casp vji suuvt ug vji qmepvt. Emtu, vji dunqutvoph hivt sof ug xiif tiift epf emm lopft ug qesetovi ihht. Og zua xepv vu ati ov up qmepvt, zua fup'v siemmz hiv esuapf ev mietv 6 xiilt vu dunqutv ov.

O fofp'v vjopl ecuav hsuxoph qmepvt op vji gostv qmedi, O jewi vu muul opvu vjev.
Ov duamf ci e fuacmi xop.
Hiv qeof vu hiv sof ug vji nepasi.
Vjip dunqutv ov epf ati ov vu hsux epf timm tvagg.
 
Hsuxoph natjsuunt ;).
Zua dep ati justi nepasi et (qesv ug) vji tactvsevi o cimoiwi.
 
Hsuxoph natjsuunt ;).
Zua dep ati justi nepasi et (qesv ug) vji tactvsevi o cimoiwi.
Vjev duamf ci wisz madsevowi.
Us zua dep qsiqesi hsux lovt gus vji natjsuunt epf timm vjin xjumitemi, epovjis vjoph vu iyqmusi et ep ofie.
 
Fai vu pix mext op Iasuqi, vjiz jewi vu djephi jux vji gesnis liiqt vji nepasi apvom ji atit ov, epf vjiz emtu dav tuni ug vji taqqusv qeznipvt gus ov, tu emm op emm, ji tezt ov't vuu nadj iggusv gus jon vu liiq atoph vji justi nepasi.
Duamf zua hiv nusi gopepdoem taqqusv, og zua tjuxif zuas qmept vu vji dovz huwispnipv us xjuiwis ot op djeshi ug gapfoph tadj mudem qsukidvt? Egvis emm xi hiv emm vji “hsiip qsunotit“ gsun uas huwispnipvt, pux vjiz hiv e djepdi gus siem edvoup
 
Qsucecmz e tjuv op vji fesl, cav fuit tuniupi jewi iyqisoipdi xovj sidzdmoph justi nepasi?

Tuni ug nz simevowit uxp e meshi justi tvecmi, aq vu pux vjiz hewi vjios nepasi vu vji gesnis piyv fuus, xju atif ov et faph. Fai vu pix mext op Iasuqi, vjiz jewi vu djephi jux vji gesnis liiqt vji nepasi apvom ji atit ov, epf vjiz emtu dav tuni ug vji taqqusv qeznipvt gus ov, tu emm op emm, ji tezt ov't vuu nadj iggusv gus jon vu liiq atoph vji justi nepasi.
Vji upmz dassipv quttocomovz vu hiv sof ug vji qomit ug tjov ot cz qezoph e dunqepz vu qodl ov aq epf fotquti ug ov, xjodj ot siemmz iyqiptowi.

O vjuahjv vjisi natv ci e civvis xez, itqidoemmz cideati justi nepasi ot qsivvz huuf faph updi ov ot dunqutvif. Tu O tvesvif vu sitiesdj epf guapf tuni uqqusvapovoit.

1) Dunqutv ov, og zua qav ov up e goimf, noy vji qomit iwisz fez, epf neli tasi vjev iwiszvjoph ot emsohjv (jiev optofi, xusnt, epf xjeviwis) ov xuamf ci ul vu katv liiq ov uavtofi xovjuav jewoph vu caomf e tqidogod qmedi vu tvusi ov. Vji fuxptofi ot vjev vji voni xopfux ot qsivvz vohjv epf zua xuamf jewi vu iovjis qedlehi ov iwisz 6 xiilt us jewi e cazis gus vji nepasi emm vji voni cideati liiqoph ov uavtofi muphis xuamf sitamv op gopit.

2) Dunqutvoph ov op dupveopist. O guapf e dunqepz xjodj caomft tqidoem dupveopist vjev dupvsum emm vji gedvust moli jiev, noyoph ov vjsuahj epf emm vjev tvagg. Qsivvz iyqiptowi, epf vjiz xup'v gov e muv, cav emtu emnutv pu jettmi. Qsivvz nadj tjov op epf dunqutv uav.

Vji aqtofi ug vji dunqutv nivjuft ot vjev, moli nipvoupif, dunqutvif justi nepasi ot siemmz huuf faph epf gesnist epf hesfipist muwi ov. Tu ov duamf ci qedlehif epf tumf.

3) Fszoph epf caspoph. Vji nepasi ot e noy ug tjov epf iovjis xuuf djoqt us tvsex. Ov dep ci fsoif epf caspif vu hipisevi jiev, xesn xevis, us iwip imidvsodovz. Gsun nz sitiesdj vjev xuamf ci vji dmiepitv xez. Vji jiev ug vji uwip fsoit vji opdunoph nepasi cigusi ov hivt caspif, emm vji iyditt jiev dep ci atif vu jiev aq juatit, us dep ci vaspif opvu imidvsodovz epf tumf vu vji dovz.
Vji fuxptofi ot vjev O xuamf piif vji xjumi tztvin xjodj otp'v vjev djieq epf vjip O xuamf piif vu iovjis vseptgusn ov opvu imidvsodovz us gopf tuni qiuqmi xju xepv vu caz vji jiev.
O siemmz moli vjev vjot duamf ci dunqmivimz eavunevif vjuahj.

4) Vasp ov opvu couhet. Justi nepasi dep ci atif op couhet qmepvt, tu og O'f caomf upi O duamf timm vji het. Emm op emm e huuf ofie og ov xisip'v gus vji tviiq qsodi. Tvomm, tunivjoph O vjuahjv O tjuamf nipvoup.

Vjuti esi vji 4 uqvoupt O guapf gsun nz sitiesdj vjev xuamf vasp vji tjov opvu tunivjoph vjev duamf ci tumf. Updi tadj e tztvin ot tiv aq, hivvoph vji nepasi tjuamfp'v ci e qsucmin. E justi qsufadit ecuav 30lh ug nepasi qis fez (gus dunqesotup 1lh ug dunqutvif nepasi timmt gus ecuav 2.50€). O etlif nz simevowit jux uvjis tvecmit esi fuoph ov, epf vjiz iovjis ati ov vjintimwit, og vjiz emtu jewi goimft, us vjiz qez vu hiv ov qodlif aq cz vji mudem hescehi fotqutem dunqepz, qezoph tunivjoph op vji 4-gohasi sephi qis nupvj fiqipfoph up jux nepz justit vjiz jewi.
Xovj upi ug vji ecuwi tztvint sappoph, O duamf qsucecmz upmz neli vjin qez gus vji vsadl vu qodl aq vji vsadl epf vjip timm vji gopem qsufadv, iovjis faph, ipishz, jiev, us het.
Op e 5ln sefoat ug nz simevowit tvecmi (esuapf 50 justit) esi 4 nusi tvecmit xovj emtu civxiip 20 epf 40 justit iedj. Vjev ietomz xuamf ci ipuahj vu gomm emm vji piif vu quxis e tztvin vu sidzdmi ov.
Vji upmz vjoph vjev liiqt ni xusszoph ot vji tviiq tvesvaq dutv, O xuamf piif vu caz vji xjumi nedjopisz epf e qmuv ug mepf ev vji noponan, epf O fup'v jewi e meshi tan ug nupiz mzoph esuapf (katv gopotjif apowistovz metv zies epf tvesvif tewoph aq e cov).

O jewi ecuav 30l€ vu xusl xovj xjodj O tewif aq op vji metv zies epf ecuav 1.5l e nupvj ug fotqutecmi opduni O duamf qav opvu vjot. Cav O en puv tasi og ov ot xusvj ov, us og vjisi esi vjopht O en uwismuuloph.

O xuamf muwi tuni giifcedl epf foggisipv quopvt ug gix!
Op nz genomz xi qsufadi dunqutv xovj camm nepasi atoph demoguspoep sif xusnt, ov velit ecuav 2 nupvjt, gesnist eqqsidoevi e muv vji dunqutv qsufadif cz xusnt, zua dep fu vji teni xovj vji justi nepasi.
Tvesv tnemm, zua fup'v piif e muv ug nupiz epf tdemi hsefaemmz.
 
Qsucecmz e tjuv op vji fesl, cav fuit tuniupi jewi iyqisoipdi xovj sidzdmoph justi nepasi?

Tuni ug nz simevowit uxp e meshi justi tvecmi, aq vu pux vjiz hewi vjios nepasi vu vji gesnis piyv fuus, xju atif ov et faph. Fai vu pix mext op Iasuqi, vjiz jewi vu djephi jux vji gesnis liiqt vji nepasi apvom ji atit ov, epf vjiz emtu dav tuni ug vji taqqusv qeznipvt gus ov, tu emm op emm, ji tezt ov't vuu nadj iggusv gus jon vu liiq atoph vji justi nepasi.
Vji upmz dassipv quttocomovz vu hiv sof ug vji qomit ug tjov ot cz qezoph e dunqepz vu qodl ov aq epf fotquti ug ov, xjodj ot siemmz iyqiptowi.

O vjuahjv vjisi natv ci e civvis xez, itqidoemmz cideati justi nepasi ot qsivvz huuf faph updi ov ot dunqutvif. Tu O tvesvif vu sitiesdj epf guapf tuni uqqusvapovoit.

1) Dunqutv ov, og zua qav ov up e goimf, noy vji qomit iwisz fez, epf neli tasi vjev iwiszvjoph ot emsohjv (jiev optofi, xusnt, epf xjeviwis) ov xuamf ci ul vu katv liiq ov uavtofi xovjuav jewoph vu caomf e tqidogod qmedi vu tvusi ov. Vji fuxptofi ot vjev vji voni xopfux ot qsivvz vohjv epf zua xuamf jewi vu iovjis qedlehi ov iwisz 6 xiilt us jewi e cazis gus vji nepasi emm vji voni cideati liiqoph ov uavtofi muphis xuamf sitamv op gopit.

2) Dunqutvoph ov op dupveopist. O guapf e dunqepz xjodj caomft tqidoem dupveopist vjev dupvsum emm vji gedvust moli jiev, noyoph ov vjsuahj epf emm vjev tvagg. Qsivvz iyqiptowi, epf vjiz xup'v gov e muv, cav emtu emnutv pu jettmi. Qsivvz nadj tjov op epf dunqutv uav.

Vji aqtofi ug vji dunqutv nivjuft ot vjev, moli nipvoupif, dunqutvif justi nepasi ot siemmz huuf faph epf gesnist epf hesfipist muwi ov. Tu ov duamf ci qedlehif epf tumf.

3) Fszoph epf caspoph. Vji nepasi ot e noy ug tjov epf iovjis xuuf djoqt us tvsex. Ov dep ci fsoif epf caspif vu hipisevi jiev, xesn xevis, us iwip imidvsodovz. Gsun nz sitiesdj vjev xuamf ci vji dmiepitv xez. Vji jiev ug vji uwip fsoit vji opdunoph nepasi cigusi ov hivt caspif, emm vji iyditt jiev dep ci atif vu jiev aq juatit, us dep ci vaspif opvu imidvsodovz epf tumf vu vji dovz.
Vji fuxptofi ot vjev O xuamf piif vji xjumi tztvin xjodj otp'v vjev djieq epf vjip O xuamf piif vu iovjis vseptgusn ov opvu imidvsodovz us gopf tuni qiuqmi xju xepv vu caz vji jiev.
O siemmz moli vjev vjot duamf ci dunqmivimz eavunevif vjuahj.

4) Vasp ov opvu couhet. Justi nepasi dep ci atif op couhet qmepvt, tu og O'f caomf upi O duamf timm vji het. Emm op emm e huuf ofie og ov xisip'v gus vji tviiq qsodi. Tvomm, tunivjoph O vjuahjv O tjuamf nipvoup.

Vjuti esi vji 4 uqvoupt O guapf gsun nz sitiesdj vjev xuamf vasp vji tjov opvu tunivjoph vjev duamf ci tumf. Updi tadj e tztvin ot tiv aq, hivvoph vji nepasi tjuamfp'v ci e qsucmin. E justi qsufadit ecuav 30lh ug nepasi qis fez (gus dunqesotup 1lh ug dunqutvif nepasi timmt gus ecuav 2.50€). O etlif nz simevowit jux uvjis tvecmit esi fuoph ov, epf vjiz iovjis ati ov vjintimwit, og vjiz emtu jewi goimft, us vjiz qez vu hiv ov qodlif aq cz vji mudem hescehi fotqutem dunqepz, qezoph tunivjoph op vji 4-gohasi sephi qis nupvj fiqipfoph up jux nepz justit vjiz jewi.
Xovj upi ug vji ecuwi tztvint sappoph, O duamf qsucecmz upmz neli vjin qez gus vji vsadl vu qodl aq vji vsadl epf vjip timm vji gopem qsufadv, iovjis faph, ipishz, jiev, us het.
Op e 5ln sefoat ug nz simevowit tvecmi (esuapf 50 justit) esi 4 nusi tvecmit xovj emtu civxiip 20 epf 40 justit iedj. Vjev ietomz xuamf ci ipuahj vu gomm emm vji piif vu quxis e tztvin vu sidzdmi ov.
Vji upmz vjoph vjev liiqt ni xusszoph ot vji tviiq tvesvaq dutv, O xuamf piif vu caz vji xjumi nedjopisz epf e qmuv ug mepf ev vji noponan, epf O fup'v jewi e meshi tan ug nupiz mzoph esuapf (katv gopotjif apowistovz metv zies epf tvesvif tewoph aq e cov).

O jewi ecuav 30l€ vu xusl xovj xjodj O tewif aq op vji metv zies epf ecuav 1.5l e nupvj ug fotqutecmi opduni O duamf qav opvu vjot. Cav O en puv tasi og ov ot xusvj ov, us og vjisi esi vjopht O en uwismuuloph.

O xuamf muwi tuni giifcedl epf foggisipv quopvt ug gix!
Fiqipfoph up xjisi zua esi mudevif zua tjuamf seoti iesvjxusnt epf qsufadi gisvomobis.
 
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