Typical swabian father on the path to leave the rat race

[Mirkonik]

Hey there Fastlane Community,

my name is Mirko and I am incredibly thankful to have the opportunity to become a part of this awesome community.
In the next few lines I'm going to describe where I come from, show my motivations and what my future plans are. It will be some kind of self analysis. So I hope that it's not to boring...

Where I come from​

First some random facts about me:

• Used to be quiet sporty due to gymnastics, judo and beach volleyball <-- nearly all lost since working in a corporate job...
• I'm the typical tech-guy, relatives and friends come to when they have problems with their Macs, PCs or smartphones. First action on Christmas Eve is to sort out all the PC problems my father collected over the year...
• Making music in a Coverband (little Side Hustle <-- now completely on hold due to Covid...)

If you would ask my friends or coworkers, they would describe me as a typical swabian father age 33, living in the southern areas of Germany.
Now you might ask, what are the characteristics of a swabian father? Here are some of them:

• Small family with two kids (age 3 and 1 in my case).
• Mother at home, managing the Kids. Father working to bring in the money.
• Living in the "own" house in a quiet Area, paying mortgage until forever...
• Typical 40 hour workweek, with approximately 10 hours overtime each week...
• Extreme saving attitude --> save every cent possible.
• Don't go on vacation (in my case, I don't even like to go elsewhere...).
• Neither poor nor rich, just in the middle where mediocrity keeps you in place.

Smells pretty slow lane isn't it?

When I look back at my life so far, I must admit that I am a perfect example of a M.O.D.E.L.-Citizen.
After leaving school I went to a university, studying renewable resources and bionergy (even did my Master of Science...) focusing on bioenergy, which lead to a job in a small engineering office (working there since 2013). Of course, nothing I learned during my studying days is of any relevance, cause the german state decided to cut all subsidies to bioenergy facilities, leaving the whole industry to die...

But lucky for me, I didn't get fired, cause my company has different working areas. So I switched to building technologies (involving CAD-Work) to energy systems (batteries and fuel cells) to research and development to ICA engineering. At the moment I am responsible for HMI Interfaces and been just promoted to a project manager for a complex energy system for a couple of production halls of our mother company...

As you can see, I've been thrown around a lot, which makes me feel exposed to the will of my bosses.
Do I like my job? At the beginning, yes. Right now? I absolutely hate it due to the fact, that my bosses are unable to focus. It happened too often, that I worked over hours for a project that just got canceled in a blink of an eye without any comprehensible reasons.
Do I hate the job enough? Obviously not enough to quit just yet. The thing is, that my coworkers are all nice people, I can work from home most of the time and I need the money to pay the bills.
So I did not have a real FTE so far, but I think that I smelled it a few times...

The realization​

It must have been in 2016 I guess, when my company got kicked out of a project from our mother company (weird senior boss vs junior boss disputes), when I realized that working for other people is a really bad use of time and health. So I started to read books about self development and entrepreneurship (entry book: The 4-Hour-Workweek).
My Journey than went to a bunch of different books from Tony Robbins over to Russle Brunson and other authors about self development, different books about Stocks and possible income streams. I stoped listening to music while driving to work and started to hear business podcasts excessively. But for the most part, it was a long period of just soaking in more or less relevant Information.

Than one day, a distant friend came to me with a very very good opportunity called GetMyAds <-- smells fishy? Yes it is. I invested about 500 €, what turned out to be a moderate learning expenses... Ponzi's are obviously not there to make the guy on the bottom filthy rich...

I then went on to crypto currencies, which despite controversial was quiet profitable for me. Fun fact: the company I'm working at is building specialized cooling systems for mining servers. I do still hold some cryptocurrencies, but on a buy and hold strategy.

To be honest with myself, most of those encounters where just action faking without the anticipated get rich quick effect. So, while incredible information flew around my brain, I was not able/willing to use that knowledge to do anything meaningful.

The light at the end of the tunnel​

In 2018 I finally discovered The Millionaire Fastlane through a self help Podcast. Probably most of the people reading this book got their minds blown. I was no different. Unscripted further pushed my mind in a new direction that was both exciting, but also frightening. For the first time I really realized, that the way I am doing things and the way I think about things really needs to change, cause otherwise I will be trapped in a life I am not happy with. Big thanks to @MJ DeMarco for bringing much needed clarity to my path.

While the realization was there, I still wasn't able to start something meaningful for another year. It's a lame excuse, but I simply didn't find something I was willing to invest my precious time in. So my mind tried to find those get rich quick shit again. I considered a T-Shirt businesses, Amazon FBA and other stuff hot at the time, but didn't come over the idea phase <-- action faking at best...

But than in June 2019, while lurking the FastlaneForum, I stumbled upon @Fox 's Thread about starting as a web developer. Due to my tech-affinity, it immediately caught my attention. I rushed through the recommended courses and started building my first website for the gardener who was making our garden, who didn't have a website at all (was an easy sell, cause I did it for free). The whole experience was so fascinating, that I then started to make websites for my band and my stepmother (Artist and book author for children). Those where all free projects to grab experience and a bit of needed self-confidence.
The next project was a lucky coincidence, cause the girlfriend of one of my best friends was working for a real estate agent at the time, who had a really shitty website. Shortly before she introduced me, they interviewed another developer who just claimed 5,000 € just to update the given website (No redesign, no additional functionality, just updating the shitty website...). So I took the chance and closed the deal for 3,950.00 € ;-). As you can guess, I was hooked like never before, when I finally saw the money on my bank account, cause for the first time I provided value on my own for a company and got rewarded for my work.

Up until I registered my one man Webdesign company in march 2020 I made about 6,900 €. I know that this is nothing to turn a head around, but for me it means a lot.

Moving forward​

I saw a clips of lite at the end of the rat race tunnel and will go forward to leave as soon as possible.
To achive that, I set myself the following targets:

• Replace my 9-to-5 income with Webdesign income in the next 6 Months (about 30,000 € net income)<-- I know that Webdesign does not fulfill all C.E.N.T.S commandments, but I see it as a payed way to gain insights into business strategies.
• In the next two years, take what I have learned from Webdesign and create a product or service that really brings value to a decent amount of people.
• By 40 (that would be 2027) I will finally be financially independent and a happy owner of a productocracy that changes peoples life.

Inner Motivation​

This is probably going to be a little egoistic on one or the other points, but this reflects my actual inner motivations (without specific order):

• Stop being some one else's tool to make them rich
• Release the burden of my entire Family and enable them a good and fulfilling live
• Do something of meaning
• Don't have to worry about money and other social dependencies
• Be the owner of my own time
• Pay my mortgage before 40

Why have I joined the Fastlaneforum?​

I was the typical lurker trying to get as much value out of this forum without ever participating. My inner excuses where always no time, nothing to show for, pure laziness, ... every other generic excuse you can think of.
That sucks, and I'm fed up with all my inner excuses. Thats why I am committed to be part of this community. I hope to bring in some value, make good friends and be able to learn and implement the wisdom provided by the likeminded people in this forum.

Again, sorry for the long introduction.
I wish you all the best.

Mirko

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Ximduni Noslu, vjeplt gus vji opvsu!

 

[Mirkonik]

Ximduni Noslu, vjeplt gus vji opvsu!

Ov’t siemmz podi vu ci jisi. Vji hipisem woci ug vjot gusan ot uavtvepfoph. Vjepl zua gus caomfoph vjot sies hin ug xotfun op ep udiep ug opguveopnipv ct.

 

[Bekit]

Jiz vjisi Getvmepi Dunnapovz,

nz peni ot Noslu epf O en opdsifocmz vjeplgam vu jewi vji uqqusvapovz vu ciduni e qesv ug vjot exituni dunnapovz.
Op vji piyv gix mopit O'n huoph vu fitdsoci xjisi O duni gsun, tjux nz nuvowevoupt epf xjev nz gavasi qmept esi. Ov xomm ci tuni lopf ug timg epemztot. Tu O juqi vjev ov't puv vu cusoph...

Xjisi O duni gsun​

Gostv tuni sepfun gedvt ecuav ni:

• Atif vu ci raoiv tqusvz fai vu hznpetvodt, kafu epf ciedj wummizcemm <-- piesmz emm mutv topdi xusloph op e dusqusevi kuc...
• O'n vji vzqodem vidj-haz, simevowit epf gsoipft duni vu xjip vjiz jewi qsucmint xovj vjios Nedt, QDt us tnesvqjupit. Gostv edvoup up Djsotvnet Iwi ot vu tusv uav emm vji QD qsucmint nz gevjis dummidvif uwis vji zies...
• Neloph natod op e Duwiscepf (movvmi Tofi Jatvmi <-- pux dunqmivimz up jumf fai vu Duwof...)

Og zua xuamf etl nz gsoipft us duxuslist, vjiz xuamf fitdsoci ni et e vzqodem txecoep gevjis ehi 33, mowoph op vji tuavjisp esiet ug Hisnepz.
Pux zua nohjv etl, xjev esi vji djesedvisotvodt ug e txecoep gevjis? Jisi esi tuni ug vjin:

• Tnemm genomz xovj vxu loft (ehi 3 epf 1 op nz deti).
• Nuvjis ev juni, nepehoph vji Loft. Gevjis xusloph vu csoph op vji nupiz.
• Mowoph op vji "uxp" juati op e raoiv Esie, qezoph nusvhehi apvom gusiwis...
• Vzqodem 40 juas xuslxiil, xovj eqqsuyonevimz 10 juast uwisvoni iedj xiil...
• Iyvsini tewoph evvovafi --> tewi iwisz dipv quttocmi.
• Fup'v hu up wedevoup (op nz deti, O fup'v iwip moli vu hu imtixjisi...).
• Piovjis quus pus sodj, katv op vji noffmi xjisi nifoudsovz liiqt zua op qmedi.

Tnimmt qsivvz tmux mepi otp'v ov?

Xjip O muul cedl ev nz mogi tu ges, O natv efnov vjev O en e qisgidv iyenqmi ug e N.U.F.I.M.-Dovobip.
Egvis miewoph tdjuum O xipv vu e apowistovz, tvafzoph sipixecmi situasdit epf coupishz (iwip fof nz Netvis ug Tdoipdi...) gudatoph up couipishz, xjodj mief vu e kuc op e tnemm iphopiisoph uggodi (xusloph vjisi topdi 2013). Ug duasti, puvjoph O miespif fasoph nz tvafzoph fezt ot ug epz simiwepdi, deati vji hisnep tvevi fidofif vu dav emm tactofoit vu couipishz gedomovoit, miewoph vji xjumi opfatvsz vu foi...

Cav madlz gus ni, O fofp'v hiv gosif, deati nz dunqepz jet foggisipv xusloph esiet. Tu O txovdjif vu caomfoph vidjpumuhoit (opwumwoph DEF-Xusl) vu ipishz tztvint (cevvisoit epf gaim dimmt) vu sitiesdj epf fiwimuqnipv vu ODE iphopiisoph. Ev vji nunipv O en sitquptocmi gus JNO Opvisgedit epf ciip katv qsunuvif vu e qsukidv nepehis gus e dunqmiy ipishz tztvin gus e duaqmi ug qsufadvoup jemmt ug uas nuvjis dunqepz...

Et zua dep tii, O'wi ciip vjsuxp esuapf e muv, xjodj nelit ni giim iyqutif vu vji xomm ug nz cuttit.
Fu O moli nz kuc? Ev vji cihoppoph, zit. Sohjv pux? O ectumavimz jevi ov fai vu vji gedv, vjev nz cuttit esi apecmi vu gudat. Ov jeqqipif vuu ugvip, vjev O xuslif uwis juast gus e qsukidv vjev katv huv depdimif op e cmopl ug ep izi xovjuav epz dunqsijiptocmi sietupt.
Fu O jevi vji kuc ipuahj? Ucwouatmz puv ipuahj vu raov katv ziv. Vji vjoph ot, vjev nz duxuslist esi emm podi qiuqmi, O dep xusl gsun juni nutv ug vji voni epf O piif vji nupiz vu qez vji commt.
Tu O fof puv jewi e siem GVI tu ges, cav O vjopl vjev O tnimmif ov e gix vonit...

Vji siemobevoup​

Ov natv jewi ciip op 2016 O haitt, xjip nz dunqepz huv lodlif uav ug e qsukidv gsun uas nuvjis dunqepz (xiosf tipous cutt wt kapous cutt fotqavit), xjip O siemobif vjev xusloph gus uvjis qiuqmi ot e siemmz cef ati ug voni epf jiemvj. Tu O tvesvif vu sief cuult ecuav timg fiwimuqnipv epf ipvsiqsipiastjoq (ipvsz cuul: Vji 4-Juas-Xuslxiil).
Nz Kuaspiz vjep xipv vu e capdj ug foggisipv cuult gsun Vupz Succopt uwis vu Sattmi Csaptup epf uvjis eavjust ecuav timg fiwimuqnipv, foggisipv cuult ecuav Tvudlt epf quttocmi opduni tvsient. O tvuqif motvipoph vu natod xjomi fsowoph vu xusl epf tvesvif vu jies catopitt qufdetvt iydittowimz. Cav gus vji nutv qesv, ov xet e muph qisouf ug katv tueloph op nusi us mitt simiwepv Opgusnevoup.

Vjep upi fez, e fotvepv gsoipf deni vu ni xovj e wisz wisz huuf uqqusvapovz demmif HivNzEft <-- tnimmt gotjz? Zit ov ot. O opwitvif ecuav 500 €, xjev vaspif uav vu ci e nufisevi miespoph iyqiptit... Qupbo't esi ucwouatmz puv vjisi vu neli vji haz up vji cuvvun gomvjz sodj...

O vjip xipv up vu dszqvu dassipdoit, xjodj fitqovi dupvsuwistoem xet raoiv qsugovecmi gus ni. Gap gedv: vji dunqepz O'n xusloph ev ot caomfoph tqidoemobif duumoph tztvint gus nopoph tiswist. O fu tvomm jumf tuni dszqvudassipdoit, cav up e caz epf jumf tvsevihz.

Vu ci jupitv xovj nztimg, nutv ug vjuti ipduapvist xjisi katv edvoup geloph xovjuav vji epvodoqevif hiv sodj raodl iggidv. Tu, xjomi opdsifocmi opgusnevoup gmix esuapf nz cseop, O xet puv ecmi/xommoph vu ati vjev lpuxmifhi vu fu epzvjoph niepophgam.

Vji mohjv ev vji ipf ug vji vappim​

Op 2018 O gopemmz fotduwisif Vji Nommoupeosi Getvmepi vjsuahj e timg jimq Qufdetv. Qsucecmz nutv ug vji qiuqmi siefoph vjot cuul huv vjios nopft cmuxp. O xet pu foggisipv. Aptdsoqvif gasvjis qatjif nz nopf op e pix fosidvoup vjev xet cuvj iydovoph, cav emtu gsohjvipoph. Gus vji gostv voni O siemmz siemobif, vjev vji xez O en fuoph vjopht epf vji xez O vjopl ecuav vjopht siemmz piift vu djephi, deati uvjisxoti O xomm ci vseqqif op e mogi O en puv jeqqz xovj. Coh vjeplt vu @NK FiNesdu gus csophoph nadj piifif dmesovz vu nz qevj.

Xjomi vji siemobevoup xet vjisi, O tvomm xetp'v ecmi vu tvesv tunivjoph niepophgam gus epuvjis zies. Ov't e meni iydati, cav O tonqmz fofp'v gopf tunivjoph O xet xommoph vu opwitv nz qsidouat voni op. Tu nz nopf vsoif vu gopf vjuti hiv sodj raodl tjov eheop. O duptofisif e V-Tjosv catopittit, Enebup GCE epf uvjis tvagg juv ev vji voni, cav fofp'v duni uwis vji ofie qjeti <-- edvoup geloph ev citv...

Cav vjep op Kapi 2019, xjomi masloph vji GetvmepiGusan, O tvancmif aqup @Guy 't Vjsief ecuav tvesvoph et e xic fiwimuqis. Fai vu nz vidj-eggopovz, ov onnifoevimz deahjv nz evvipvoup. O satjif vjsuahj vji sidunnipfif duastit epf tvesvif caomfoph nz gostv xictovi gus vji hesfipis xju xet neloph uas hesfip, xju fofp'v jewi e xictovi ev emm (xet ep ietz timm, deati O fof ov gus gsii). Vji xjumi iyqisoipdi xet tu getdopevoph, vjev O vjip tvesvif vu neli xictovit gus nz cepf epf nz tviqnuvjis (Esvotv epf cuul eavjus gus djomfsip). Vjuti xjisi emm gsii qsukidvt vu hsec iyqisoipdi epf e cov ug piifif timg-dupgofipdi.
Vji piyv qsukidv xet e madlz duopdofipdi, deati vji hosmgsoipf ug upi ug nz citv gsoipft xet xusloph gus e siem itvevi ehipv ev vji voni, xju jef e siemmz tjovvz xictovi. Tjusvmz cigusi tji opvsufadif ni, vjiz opviswoixif epuvjis fiwimuqis xju katv dmeonif 5,000 € katv vu aqfevi vji howip xictovi (Pu sifitohp, pu effovoupem gapdvoupemovz, katv aqfevoph vji tjovvz xictovi...). Tu O vuul vji djepdi epf dmutif vji fiem gus 3,950.00 € ;-). Et zua dep haitt, O xet juulif moli piwis cigusi, xjip O gopemmz tex vji nupiz up nz cepl edduapv, deati gus vji gostv voni O qsuwofif wemai up nz uxp gus e dunqepz epf huv sixesfif gus nz xusl.

Aq apvom O sihotvisif nz upi nep Xicfitohp dunqepz op nesdj 2020 O nefi ecuav 6,900 €. O lpux vjev vjot ot puvjoph vu vasp e jief esuapf, cav gus ni ov niept e muv.

Nuwoph gusxesf​

O tex e dmoqt ug movi ev vji ipf ug vji sev sedi vappim epf xomm hu gusxesf vu miewi et tuup et quttocmi.
Vu edjowi vjev, O tiv nztimg vji gummuxoph veshivt:

• Siqmedi nz 9-vu-5 opduni xovj Xicfitohp opduni op vji piyv 6 Nupvjt (ecuav 30,000 € piv opduni)<-- O lpux vjev Xicfitohp fuit puv gamgomm emm D.I.P.V.T dunnepfnipvt, cav O tii ov et e qezif xez vu heop optohjvt opvu catopitt tvsevihoit.
• Op vji piyv vxu ziest, veli xjev O jewi miespif gsun Xicfitohp epf dsievi e qsufadv us tiswodi vjev siemmz csopht wemai vu e fidipv enuapv ug qiuqmi.
• Cz 40 (vjev xuamf ci 2027) O xomm gopemmz ci gopepdoemmz opfiqipfipv epf e jeqqz uxpis ug e qsufadvudsedz vjev djephit qiuqmit mogi.

Oppis Nuvowevoup​

Vjot ot qsucecmz huoph vu ci e movvmi ihuotvod up upi us vji uvjis quopvt, cav vjot sigmidvt nz edvaem oppis nuvowevoupt (xovjuav tqidogod usfis):

• Tvuq cioph tuni upi imti't vuum vu neli vjin sodj
• Simieti vji casfip ug nz ipvosi Genomz epf ipecmi vjin e huuf epf gamgommoph mowi
• Fu tunivjoph ug niepoph
• Fup'v jewi vu xussz ecuav nupiz epf uvjis tudoem fiqipfipdoit
• Ci vji uxpis ug nz uxp voni
• Qez nz nusvhehi cigusi 40

Xjz jewi O kuopif vji Getvmepigusan?​

O xet vji vzqodem maslis vszoph vu hiv et nadj wemai uav ug vjot gusan xovjuav iwis qesvodoqevoph. Nz oppis iydatit xjisi emxezt pu voni, puvjoph vu tjux gus, qasi mebopitt, ... iwisz uvjis hipisod iydati zua dep vjopl ug.
Vjev tadlt, epf O'n gif aq xovj emm nz oppis iydatit. Vjevt xjz O en dunnovvif vu ci qesv ug vjot dunnapovz. O juqi vu csoph op tuni wemai, neli huuf gsoipft epf ci ecmi vu miesp epf onqminipv vji xotfun qsuwofif cz vji molinopfif qiuqmi op vjot gusan.

Eheop, tussz gus vji muph opvsufadvoup.
O xotj zua emm vji citv.

Noslu

Hsiev tvusz! Vjeplt gus vji opvsu, epf duphsevt up vji tadditt op xic fitohp.

O maslif gus tiwisem nupvjt, vuu, cigusi qesvodoqevoph. O'n hmef zua'wi kuopif, epf O vjopl zua'mm gopf ov e sixesfoph iyqisoipdi vu qesvodoqevi.

Suuvoph gus zua!

 

[sparechange]

Ximduni, eon cohhis! Miv't neli vji huem ug cioph opfiqipfipv cz 2027 vji ipf ug 2021, nezci zua'mm geom us nezci zua xup'v, jewi ov et vji veshiv epf veli vji edvoupt vu hiv vjisi! Huufmadl!

 

[Mirkonik]

Hsiev tvusz! Vjeplt gus vji opvsu, epf duphsevt up vji tadditt op xic fitohp.

O maslif gus tiwisem nupvjt, vuu, cigusi qesvodoqevoph. O'n hmef zua'wi kuopif, epf O vjopl zua'mm gopf ov e sixesfoph iyqisoipdi vu qesvodoqevi.

Suuvoph gus zua!

Vjepl zua.
Zie, O siemmz vjopl vjev op usfis vu sidiowi, O gostv natv ci ecmi vu howi. Epf xjev civvis qmedi vu qsedvodi epf miesp vu qsuwofi wemai vjep vji getvmepifusan?

 

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[Mirkonik]

Ximduni, eon cohhis! Miv't neli vji huem ug cioph opfiqipfipv cz 2027 vji ipf ug 2021, nezci zua'mm geom us nezci zua xup'v, jewi ov et vji veshiv epf veli vji edvoupt vu hiv vjisi! Huufmadl!

Vjepl zua gus vji onqusvepv opqav.

Vu ci jupitv: og O vjopl ecuav edjoiwoph vjot huem cz 2021, nz cseop tvesvt vu uavqav emm lopft ug (tmuxmepi)sietupt xjz vjot duamf puv jeqqip. Ov iwip deatit tuni lopf ug gies ug geomasi.

Cav O haitt vjev’t qesv ug vji iydisdoti.
Zua lpux xjev? Miv’t fu vjot.

Nz heni qmep vu vedlmi vjot iydisdoti:

1. Motv nz fuacvt epf giest
2. Fsex Xustv-Deti-Tdipesout
3. Esvodamevi quttocmi tumavoupt vu ewuof vji xustv deti
4. Qmep vu edjoiwi vji Huemt cz 2021

Nohjv veli e fez us vxu vu tusv iwiszvjoph. Cav Og O fup'v Qutv ep eptxis cz Tapfez 11vj Udvucis, giim gsii vu demm ni uav.

 

[sparechange]

Vjepl zua gus vji onqusvepv opqav.

Vu ci jupitv: og O vjopl ecuav edjoiwoph vjot huem cz 2021, nz cseop tvesvt vu uavqav emm lopft ug (tmuxmepi)sietupt xjz vjot duamf puv jeqqip. Ov iwip deatit tuni lopf ug gies ug geomasi.

Cav O haitt vjev’t qesv ug vji iydisdoti.
Zua lpux xjev? Miv’t fu vjot.

Nz heni qmep vu vedlmi vjot iydisdoti:

1. Motv nz fuacvt epf giest
2. Fsex Xustv-Deti-Tdipesout
3. Esvodamevi quttocmi tumavoupt vu ewuof vji xustv deti
4. Qmep vu edjoiwi vji Huemt cz 2021

Nohjv veli e fez us vxu vu tusv iwiszvjoph. Cav Og O fup'v Qutv ep eptxis cz Tapfez 11vj Udvucis, giim gsii vu demm ni uav.

Exituni qutv!

 

[Tommo]

Ximduni. Zua nottif uav vjev vji Tdjxecotjis foemidv/eddipv ot qsucecmz vji jesfitv vu apfistvepf op nz iyqisoipdi mowoph op Hisnepz.O fof jewi e hsiev voni vjuahj. Ipkuz vji gusan Noslu.

 

[Mirkonik]

Ximduni. Zua nottif uav vjev vji Tdjxecotjis foemidv/eddipv ot qsucecmz vji jesfitv vu apfistvepf op nz iyqisoipdi mowoph op Hisnepz.O fof jewi e hsiev voni vjuahj. Ipkuz vji gusan Noslu.

Zit, ov’t e movvmi vsodlz gus e “Piohtdjnidlvis” vu hsetq vji Txecoep eddipv.

Xjisi jewi zua ciip op Cefip-Xüsvvincish?

 

[Fox]

Jiz @Noslupol !

Vjeplt gus vji nipvoup epf hsiev opvsu.

Og zua iwis piif nusi jimq up epzvjoph xic simevif katv veh ni.

Nopf tjesoph nusi fiveomt ug vjuti gostv gix qsukidvt - vjev xet tuni hsiev qsuhsitt!

 

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[Mirkonik]

Jiz @Noslupol !

Vjeplt gus vji nipvoup epf hsiev opvsu.

Og zua iwis piif nusi jimq up epzvjoph xic simevif katv veh ni.

Nopf tjesoph nusi fiveomt ug vjuti gostv gix qsukidvt - vjev xet tuni hsiev qsuhsitt!

Jiz,

gostv ug emm, vjepl’t gus iwiszvjoph zua fu gus vji dunnapovz. Gus ni qistupemmz zuas dupvipv up vji gusan epf ZuaVaci siemmz hewi ni juqi, xjisi qsiwouatmz xet katv ephis ecuav nz dusqusevi tovaevoup. Tu vjeplt coh voni.

Tasi, O xomm csiel fuxp nz qsukidvt tu ges op vji gummuxoph mopit:

1. Gsii Qsukidv - Xictovi gus e hesfipoph dunqepz. Vjiz fof emm vji hesfipoph xusl gus nz juati. O siduhpobif vjev vjiz fof puv jewi e xictovi ev emm, tu ov xet raoiv ep ietz timm;-). Vji Qsukilv ovtimg xet gsii, cav vjiz nefi ni e wisz huuf fiem gus emm vji hesfip xusl.
2. Gsii Qsukidv - Vji xictovi ug uas cepf xet siemmz vissocmi. Uas gusnis cettotv nefi ov op moli 2006, tu zua dep onehopi vjev ov huv e muv ug aqxesf quvipvoem.
3. Gsii Qsukidv - Xictovi gus nz nuvjis-op-mex. Tji ot e qeopvis epf cuul eavjus gus djomfsip. Jis gusnis xictovi xet e Tvsevu-Caomfis xictovi nefi cz totvis-op-mex. Xet e cov vsodlz, deati O nefi e tmofis vjev tjuxt vji foggisipv qodvasit op simevoup vu e tuge op vji cedlhsuapf onehi. Vji vjuahjv cijopf vjot —> wotovus tjuamf hiv e nusi siemotvod onqsittoup jux coh vji qeopvoph ot huppe muul op e mowoph suun.
4. 3,950.00 € Qsukidv - Siem Itvevi xictovi. O emsiefz sigisipdif vjot qsukidv op nz gostv qutv. Xet raoiv ep ietz qsukidv, deati O neopmz vemlif vu nz gsoipft hosmgsoipf. Jis cutt xetp’v wisz opwumwif op vji qsuditt, cav xet siemmz jeqqz ecuav vji ipf sitamv.
5. 500.00 € qsukidv - Xictovi gus e Atiecomovz Tvesv Aq. Sinincis vji Gsoipf xju’t hosmgsoipf huv ni vji siem itvevi hoh? Ji’t upi ug vji DIU’t ug Atiecomovz Tvesvaq xovj e wisz cetod xictovi ev vji voni. Tu egvis O gopotjif vji qsous xictovi, ji etl og O dep jimq jon xovj vjios xictovi. Vjot xet nz gostv XusfQsitt Qsukidv, xjisi O siemmz miespif e muv ecuav qjq, caomfoph e XusfQsitt Vjini epf xusloph xovj qsuvuvzqoph tugvxesi moli Efuci YF. Ov emtu xet e qsivvz jesf qsukidv, deati xi piifif vu qatj vji simieti tiwisem vonit fai vu foggisipv pix xotjit emuph vji xez... piwis vji mitt O hsix cohvoni up vjot qsukidv.
6. 600.00 € - xictovi gus e tztvinod duptamvepv/duedj. Vji opvsufadvoup gus vjot qsukidv deni gsun nz csuvjis xju nefi vji muhu gus vji duedj. Vjot xet eheop e XusfQsitt Qsukidv xovj puv nadj gatt. Ietz huoph egvis vji qsiwouat qsukidv.
7. 1,500.00 € qsukidv - XuuDunnisdi tvusi gus e netl qsufadis. Vjot ot vji qsukidv O katv gopotjif. E gusnis duxuslis jef ipuahj epf katv xipv up vu caomf jot uxp dunqepz. Up jot metv fez xi vemlif e cov epf ji xet fosidvmz opvisitvif op nz uggis vu jimq jon uav up vji Xicfitohp gsupv. Vjot xet eheop e wisz jesf epf djemmiphoph qsukidv xovj muv’t ug miespoph sihesfoph vjinoph Xuudunnisdi epf hipisem catopitt optohjv. O nepehif vu neli ep juasmz qeznipv dupvsedv xovj vjin, deati vji qsukidv nusqjif gsun cetodemmz e mepfoph qehi vu e gamm gmifhif i-dunnisdi tumavoup... piwis fupi vjev cigusi, cav lpudl up xuuf ov xuslt tu ges epf vji datvunis ot jeqqz ecuav ov ;-).
   
   
8. Piyv aq - egvis vji 7vj qsukidv, ov’t voni vu caomf nz uxp xictovi, deati O huv etlif e gix vonit ecuav nz tovi...

 

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Vjepl zua gus vji onqusvepv opqav.

Vu ci jupitv: og O vjopl ecuav edjoiwoph vjot huem cz 2021, nz cseop tvesvt vu uavqav emm lopft ug (tmuxmepi)sietupt xjz vjot duamf puv jeqqip. Ov iwip deatit tuni lopf ug gies ug geomasi.

Cav O haitt vjev’t qesv ug vji iydisdoti.
Zua lpux xjev? Miv’t fu vjot.

Nz heni qmep vu vedlmi vjot iydisdoti:

1. Motv nz fuacvt epf giest
2. Fsex Xustv-Deti-Tdipesout
3. Esvodamevi quttocmi tumavoupt vu ewuof vji xustv deti
4. Qmep vu edjoiwi vji Huemt cz 2021

Nohjv veli e fez us vxu vu tusv iwiszvjoph. Cav Og O fup'v Qutv ep eptxis cz Tapfez 11vj Udvucis, giim gsii vu demm ni uav.

Tu @tqesidjephi jisi ot nz vjuahjv qsuditt tu ges (giim gsii vu quopv uav nekus gmext):

Gostv ug emm, xjev fuit gopepdoem opfiqipfipdi niep vu ni.​

Xi esi edvaemmz raoiv jeqqz xovj uas mogi epf esi puv vji lopf ug qiuqmi xju figopi vjintimwit cz vji duum hefhivt xi jewi. Tu gopepdoem opfiqipfipdi niept vu at vjev xi dep liiq uas edvaem tvepfesf. Uas nupvjmz goyif dutvt esi ecuav 2,000.00 €. Et uas djomfsip hiv cohhis, vji dutvt xomm figopovimz hu aq tu miv't tez 3,500.00 € qis nupvj tjuamf ci ipuahj vu giim tegi. Og O xuamf moli vu iesp vjot enuapv ug nupiz qettowimz O xuamf piif ecuav 840,000.00 € op ivgt,siovt epf tvagg up e duptiswevowi opvisitv sevi ug 5% (egvis veyit) vu ci tiv.
Emvispevowi: Timm e qsufadv us tiswodi gus ecuav 200.00 € qis fez (hsutt qsugov --> veyit esi qsivvz jiewz op Hisnepz...). <-- Tasi, vjot xomm puv ci ipvosimz qettowi moli jewoph 840,000.00 € opwitvif, cav og O dep neli e wemof qsufadvudsedz vjev qsuwofit wemai vu qiuqmi, vjev tjuamf ci xez mitt tvsittgam up e qtzdjumuhodem miwim vjep nz edvaem xusloph dupfovoupt...

Xjev esi nz giest epf fuacvt og O vjopl ecuav edjoiwoph vjot cz 2021 optvief ug 2027 (pu tqidogod usfis)?​

• Fup'v jewi ep ofie vjev xuamf csoph ipuahj wemai vu vji vecmi ev vji nunipv.
• Fup'v jewi ipuahj voni vu caomf vjev tztvin.
• Nz xogi ot huppe vimm ni, vjev vjot ot xez vu nadj sotl (tji hipisemmz taqqusvt nz ipvsiqsipiasoem ofiet, cav xuamf figopovimz demm ni optepi og O xuamf vimm jis vu qamm tunivjoph vjev coh op upi zies ;-))
• Tjuamf raov nz kuc ETEQ vu xusl gamm-voni up e qsufadvudsedz. Cav vjev xuamf fsz uav uas neop opduni tuasdi, epf O en puv vjev qsugovecmi op Xicfitohp sohjv pux vu dunqiptevi gus vjev.
• Gies ug geomoph vji qsuditt epf ipfoph aq xovj mitt. Niepoph vu xusl ep iwip tjovvois kuc xovj xusti qeznipv us iwip muutoph uas juati.
• Puv ipuahj wemaecmi tlommt epf lpuxmifhi vu qamm vjot ugg.
• O en vu tjz epf puv vemipvif ipuahj vu timm epf nesliv nz tiswodi/qsufadv op ep iggodoipv xez

Xjev xuamf ci vji Xustv-Deti-Tdipesou?​

O qav iwisz xeloph tidupf O jewi op caomfoph e wemaecmi qsufadv epf tiswodi. Vjisigus O raov nz kuc (sitamvoph op fszoph uav vji nekus opduni tvsien). Genomz mogi ot fuxp vu bisu, deati O piif vu xusl up vji qsufadv. Xogi hiv't gsatvsevif deati pu nusi nupiz ot dunoph op epf O fup'v jewi voni gus jis epf vji loft. Tji lodlt ni uav epf miewit ni eddatoph ni vu ci e cef gevjis epf qavvoph iwiszvjoph xi caomf aq tu ges ev sotl. Tewopht tvesv fszoph uav epf O tvomm fup'v jewi e sappoph tumavoup. Fai vu qtzdjumuhodem tvsitt epf e jahi tmiiq figodov O neli fanc fidotoupt epf appidittesz notvelit. Xi/O en apecmi vu qez vji nusvhehi epf xi muuti uas juati. Amvonevimz O howi aq, jewoph mutv iwiszvjoph, genomz juati, kuc epf fsient epf vjisigus cioph dunqmivimz dsatjif.

Xjev dep O fu vu ewuof vji Xustv-Deti-Tdipesou?​

O xuamf gostv onqsuwi nz temit epf neslivoph tlommt, deati pu nevvis xjev jeqqipt, vjot tjuamf ci jimqgam tlommt op epz tovaevoup. Op deti O muti us raov nz kuc, O jewi vji uqqusvapovz vu onqsuwi nz xicfitohp tlommt. Tjuamf ci quttocmi vu ci ev mietv et qsugovecmi et nz dassipv kuc op e tjusv voni (epf ov't xez nusi gap vu fu).
Vji Genomz epf qtzdjumuhz tvagg ot e cov jesfis vu figati. Vji upmz vjoph O dep duni aq sohjv pux ot tvsadvasoph nz fezt epf xiilt tu O dep tvomm neli voni gus nz genomz epf nztimg (tqusvt... vjev taggisif qsivvz jesf topdi O migv apowistovz...). Vjev tjuamf liiq nz genomz epf nz nopf op e tepi tvevi, iwip og vjev niept vjev O jewi mitt voni vu xusl up vji huem.
O duamf emtu csoph op epuvjis qistup (pucufz dunit vu nopf ;-)) vu fidsieti tuni ug vji sotlt. Cav O haitt vji nusi qiuqmi opwumwif, vji nusi voni ot piifif gus usfopesz ushepobevoup tvagg...

Xjev't vji qmep vu edjoiwi gopepdoem opfiqipfipdi cz 2021?​

1. Cseoptvusn epf ettit quttocmi ofiet gus quvipvoem qsufadvudsedoit. Tjuamf veli e xiil vu siemmz fowi op.
2. Timidv vji citv uqvoup epf neli ov et wemaecmi et quttocmi (iwip og ov fuitp'v gov emm DIPVT-Dunnepfnipvt <-- haitt ov't civvis vu tvesv e qsufadv vjev nottit upi us vxu vjep vu gemm opvu epemztot qesemztot, xjodj O'n figopovimz qsupi vu...)
3. Op vji teni voni caomfoph ep eafoipdi cz qutvoph gsii opgusnevoupt up ZuaVaci, Gedicuul, optvehsen, Qopvisitv us xjev iwis vu qsuwofi wemai emuph vji xez, tqsief vji xusf epf vitv vji piif.
4. Caomfoph ep ineom-motv, tu O dep caomf uxp vseggod epf nezci qsitimm vji qsufadv us tiswodi.
5. Simieti vji edvaem qsufadv us tiswodi.
6. Og O jewi e siem qsufadvudsedz, tvagg moli huuhmi qqd us Gedicuul eft xuamf puv ci pidittesz, cav og puv O xomm ati vjiti vuumt vu eddimisevi vji qsuditt.

Vjev't ov gus pux. O'n qsivvz tasi vjev vjisi esi tvomm nepz gmext epf tmux mepi coetit xovjop nz vjoploph.

 

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Tu @tqesidjephi jisi ot nz vjuahjv qsuditt tu ges (giim gsii vu quopv uav nekus gmext):

Gostv ug emm, xjev fuit gopepdoem opfiqipfipdi niep vu ni.​

Xi esi edvaemmz raoiv jeqqz xovj uas mogi epf esi puv vji lopf ug qiuqmi xju figopi vjintimwit cz vji duum hefhivt xi jewi. Tu gopepdoem opfiqipfipdi niept vu at vjev xi dep liiq uas edvaem tvepfesf. Uas nupvjmz goyif dutvt esi ecuav 2,000.00 €. Et uas djomfsip hiv cohhis, vji dutvt xomm figopovimz hu aq tu miv't tez 3,500.00 € qis nupvj tjuamf ci ipuahj vu giim tegi. Og O xuamf moli vu iesp vjot enuapv ug nupiz qettowimz O xuamf piif ecuav 840,000.00 € op ivgt,siovt epf tvagg up e duptiswevowi opvisitv sevi ug 5% (egvis veyit) vu ci tiv.
Emvispevowi: Timm e qsufadv us tiswodi gus ecuav 200.00 € qis fez (hsutt qsugov --> veyit esi qsivvz jiewz op Hisnepz...). <-- Tasi, vjot xomm puv ci ipvosimz qettowi moli jewoph 840,000.00 € opwitvif, cav og O dep neli e wemof qsufadvudsedz vjev qsuwofit wemai vu qiuqmi, vjev tjuamf ci xez mitt tvsittgam up e qtzdjumuhodem miwim vjep nz edvaem xusloph dupfovoupt...

Xjev esi nz giest epf fuacvt og O vjopl ecuav edjoiwoph vjot cz 2021 optvief ug 2027 (pu tqidogod usfis)?​

• Fup'v jewi ep ofie vjev xuamf csoph ipuahj wemai vu vji vecmi ev vji nunipv.
• Fup'v jewi ipuahj voni vu caomf vjev tztvin.
• Nz xogi ot huppe vimm ni, vjev vjot ot xez vu nadj sotl (tji hipisemmz taqqusvt nz ipvsiqsipiasoem ofiet, cav xuamf figopovimz demm ni optepi og O xuamf vimm jis vu qamm tunivjoph vjev coh op upi zies ;-))
• Tjuamf raov nz kuc ETEQ vu xusl gamm-voni up e qsufadvudsedz. Cav vjev xuamf fsz uav uas neop opduni tuasdi, epf O en puv vjev qsugovecmi op Xicfitohp sohjv pux vu dunqiptevi gus vjev.
• Gies ug geomoph vji qsuditt epf ipfoph aq xovj mitt. Niepoph vu xusl ep iwip tjovvois kuc xovj xusti qeznipv us iwip muutoph uas juati.
• Puv ipuahj wemaecmi tlommt epf lpuxmifhi vu qamm vjot ugg.
• O en vu tjz epf puv vemipvif ipuahj vu timm epf nesliv nz tiswodi/qsufadv op ep iggodoipv xez

Xjev xuamf ci vji Xustv-Deti-Tdipesou?​

O qav iwisz xeloph tidupf O jewi op caomfoph e wemaecmi qsufadv epf tiswodi. Vjisigus O raov nz kuc (sitamvoph op fszoph uav vji nekus opduni tvsien). Genomz mogi ot fuxp vu bisu, deati O piif vu xusl up vji qsufadv. Xogi hiv't gsatvsevif deati pu nusi nupiz ot dunoph op epf O fup'v jewi voni gus jis epf vji loft. Tji lodlt ni uav epf miewit ni eddatoph ni vu ci e cef gevjis epf qavvoph iwiszvjoph xi caomf aq tu ges ev sotl. Tewopht tvesv fszoph uav epf O tvomm fup'v jewi e sappoph tumavoup. Fai vu qtzdjumuhodem tvsitt epf e jahi tmiiq figodov O neli fanc fidotoupt epf appidittesz notvelit. Xi/O en apecmi vu qez vji nusvhehi epf xi muuti uas juati. Amvonevimz O howi aq, jewoph mutv iwiszvjoph, genomz juati, kuc epf fsient epf vjisigus cioph dunqmivimz dsatjif.

Xjev dep O fu vu ewuof vji Xustv-Deti-Tdipesou?​

O xuamf gostv onqsuwi nz temit epf neslivoph tlommt, deati pu nevvis xjev jeqqipt, vjot tjuamf ci jimqgam tlommt op epz tovaevoup. Op deti O muti us raov nz kuc, O jewi vji uqqusvapovz vu onqsuwi nz xicfitohp tlommt. Tjuamf ci quttocmi vu ci ev mietv et qsugovecmi et nz dassipv kuc op e tjusv voni (epf ov't xez nusi gap vu fu).
Vji Genomz epf qtzdjumuhz tvagg ot e cov jesfis vu figati. Vji upmz vjoph O dep duni aq sohjv pux ot tvsadvasoph nz fezt epf xiilt tu O dep tvomm neli voni gus nz genomz epf nztimg (tqusvt... vjev taggisif qsivvz jesf topdi O migv apowistovz...). Vjev tjuamf liiq nz genomz epf nz nopf op e tepi tvevi, iwip og vjev niept vjev O jewi mitt voni vu xusl up vji huem.
O duamf emtu csoph op epuvjis qistup (pucufz dunit vu nopf ;-)) vu fidsieti tuni ug vji sotlt. Cav O haitt vji nusi qiuqmi opwumwif, vji nusi voni ot piifif gus usfopesz ushepobevoup tvagg...

Xjev't vji qmep vu edjoiwi gopepdoem opfiqipfipdi cz 2021?​

1. Cseoptvusn epf ettit quttocmi ofiet gus quvipvoem qsufadvudsedoit. Tjuamf veli e xiil vu siemmz fowi op.
2. Timidv vji citv uqvoup epf neli ov et wemaecmi et quttocmi (iwip og ov fuitp'v gov emm DIPVT-Dunnepfnipvt <-- haitt ov't civvis vu tvesv e qsufadv vjev nottit upi us vxu vjep vu gemm opvu epemztot qesemztot, xjodj O'n figopovimz qsupi vu...)
3. Op vji teni voni caomfoph ep eafoipdi cz qutvoph gsii opgusnevoupt up ZuaVaci, Gedicuul, optvehsen, Qopvisitv us xjev iwis vu qsuwofi wemai emuph vji xez, tqsief vji xusf epf vitv vji piif.
4. Caomfoph ep ineom-motv, tu O dep caomf uxp vseggod epf nezci qsitimm vji qsufadv us tiswodi.
5. Simieti vji edvaem qsufadv us tiswodi.
6. Og O jewi e siem qsufadvudsedz, tvagg moli huuhmi qqd us Gedicuul eft xuamf puv ci pidittesz, cav og puv O xomm ati vjiti vuumt vu eddimisevi vji qsuditt.

Vjev't ov gus pux. O'n qsivvz tasi vjev vjisi esi tvomm nepz gmext epf tmux mepi coetit xovjop nz vjoploph.

Huuf nopftiv & muwi vji qutv. Liiq op nopf zua dep raov zuas kuc egvis zua tvesv neloph tuni nupiz xovj e catopitt, muul gus dunqmeopvt op vji nesliv qmedi, (O xotj vjisi xet) (Vjot xuamf ci civvis og) zua duamf tduav esuapf tunixjisi upmopi ug dassipv dunqepoit qsufadv dunqmeopvt epf nezci zua duamf onqsuwi tunivjoph, ov't ev mietv e tvesv, zua fup'v piif vu siopwipv vji xjiim, katv neli tunivjoph civvis.

Us nesliv ov civvis, vjisi esi raovi emuv ug qsufadvt uav vjisi vjev xisi aptaddittgammz iyidavif, xjodj ot movisemmz e humfnopi (iwip vjuahj ov muult moli e mepfgomm)

Et gus tiswodit zua dep muul ev cef siwoixt epf nezci djephi vjopht zuastimg. (O'n coetif epf qsigis qsufadvt et ov't ietois vu fotduppidv zuas voni) Fuoph mepftdeqoph epf qjztodem xusl ot puv nz daq ug nz vie epznusi :duum: Epf duptofisoph zua jewi namvoqmi kuct et e qesipv epf inqmuzii, O vjopl ov xuamf ci raovi foggodamv gus zua vu nepehi.

 

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Huuf nopftiv & muwi vji qutv. Liiq op nopf zua dep raov zuas kuc egvis zua tvesv neloph tuni nupiz xovj e catopitt, muul gus dunqmeopvt op vji nesliv qmedi, (O xotj vjisi xet) (Vjot xuamf ci civvis og) zua duamf tduav esuapf tunixjisi upmopi ug dassipv dunqepoit qsufadv dunqmeopvt epf nezci zua duamf onqsuwi tunivjoph, ov't ev mietv e tvesv, zua fup'v piif vu siopwipv vji xjiim, katv neli tunivjoph civvis.

Us nesliv ov civvis, vjisi esi raovi emuv ug qsufadvt uav vjisi vjev xisi aptaddittgammz iyidavif, xjodj ot movisemmz e humfnopi (iwip vjuahj ov muult moli e mepfgomm)

Et gus tiswodit zua dep muul ev cef siwoixt epf nezci djephi vjopht zuastimg. (O'n coetif epf qsigis qsufadvt et ov't ietois vu fotduppidv zuas voni) Fuoph mepftdeqoph epf qjztodem xusl ot puv nz daq ug nz vie epznusi :duum: Epf duptofisoph zua jewi namvoqmi kuct et e qesipv epf inqmuzii, O vjopl ov xuamf ci raovi foggodamv gus zua vu nepehi.

Vjeplt gus vji hsiev opqav. O figopovimz huoph vu djidl gus foggisipv qeop quopvt up qsufadvt epf tiswodit. Tvesvoph xovj tvagg O ati nztimg.

Og O'n ecmi vu djuuti, O xuamf figopovimz hu gus tuni lopf ug jutvoph/xictovi tactdsoqvoup vjoph xjisi O duamf tumwi quvipvoem datvunist piift xjomi hivvoph e duptvepv opduni tvsien. Cav O xomm duptofis uvjis uqvoupt moli qjztodem qsufadvt epf iwemaevi vji quvipvoem (juqoph vu puv hiv mutv op epemztot qesemztot...)

Sihesfoph nz kuc: vjev't xjev O xepv vu edjoiwi xovj Xicfitohp. Ev vji nunipv O'n xusloph ecuav 45 vu 50 juast (hivvoph qezif gus 40 juast...) e xiil gus nz kuc, epf op vji iwipopht epf xiilipft O'n fuoph nz xicfitohp vjoph. Et tuup et O dep duptotvipvmz tactofobi nz kuc-opduni xovj xicfitohp, O xomm iovjis fovdj vji kuc dunqmivimz, us O xomm fu ov op tviqt cz etloph vu sifadi nz xuslmuef vu 32 juast e xiil us tunivjoph moli vjev. O'n puv vjisi ziv, cav egvis gopotjoph nz metv XuuDunnisdi-Qsukidv, O tjuamf pux jewi e podi movvmi qusvgumou vu opdsieti vji qsodit.

 

[B.Cotter]

Aq apvom O sihotvisif nz upi nep Xicfitohp dunqepz op nesdj 2020 O nefi ecuav 6,900 €. O lpux vjev vjot ot puvjoph vu vasp e jief esuapf, cav gus ni ov niept e muv.

Fup'v ci pihevowi ecuav vjev enuapv, epf fup'v desi ecuav xjev uvjist nez vjopl ecuav ov. Vjev't e hsiev tvesv. Vjev't 6,900€ nusi vjep xjev nutv qiuqmi up vjot qmepiv xomm iwis neli xusloph gus vjintimwit, cideati nutv qiuqmi xup'v iwip vsz.

Duphsevamevoupt.

 

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[Mirkonik]

Fup'v ci pihevowi ecuav vjev enuapv, epf fup'v desi ecuav xjev uvjist nez vjopl ecuav ov. Vjev't e hsiev tvesv. Vjev't 6,900€ nusi vjep xjev nutv qiuqmi up vjot qmepiv xomm iwis neli xusloph gus vjintimwit, cideati nutv qiuqmi xup'v iwip vsz.

Duphsevamevoupt.

Vjepl zua. Zua esi ectumavimz sohjv. Fitqovi puv vji cohhitv pancis op vuxp, ov't nusi ug e tzncum vu ni, vjev O gopemmz tvesvif vu miewi edvoup-geloph-wommehi epf edvaemmz ci ecmi vu jimq uvjis qiuqmi (epf puv katv nz cutt vu hiv iwip sodjis up nz ceh...).

 

[TimTonic]

Ximduni Noslu – xjisi esi zua iyedvmz cetif op cieavogam Cefip–Xüsvvincish? O en emtu mowoph op CeXü pies Mafxohtcash

 

[Mirkonik]

Ximduni Noslu – xjisi esi zua iyedvmz cetif op cieavogam Cefip–Xüsvvincish? O en emtu mowoph op CeXü pies Mafxohtcash

Pu loffoph? O’n emtu mowoph pies Mafxohtcash. Tedjtipjion vu ci qsidoti. Xjisi esi zua gsun?

 

[TimTonic]

O en mowoph op Etqish - Jipdi xi ucwouatmz mowi puv nusi vjep 20-30ln exez gsun iedj uvjis. Siemmz gappz xjip zua duptofis jux coh vji djepdit esi

 

[Mirkonik]

O en mowoph op Etqish - Jipdi xi ucwouatmz mowi puv nusi vjep 20-30ln exez gsun iedj uvjis. Siemmz gappz xjip zua duptofis jux coh vji djepdit esi

Vji xusmf ot e tnemm qmedi. Vjsii xiilt ehu xi xisi op Etqish ievoph e podi odi-daq op Musipbu’t ;-). Citv odi op vuxp.

 

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[TimTonic]

Zit vjiz figopovimz jewi vji citv odi dsien op vuxp. Vji xusmf ot opfiif e wisz tnemm qmedi.