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I'd just like to say I've read these forums for ages but never really made an account until now, hopefully I don't come off too much as a leach with this thread as I'd like to ask for some opinions.


Firstly, some background information (skip if you'd like):

Ever since I've been young I always wanted more, more, more and be better than everyone else. This is probably because of the hardships my parents had to go through just to support me and my brother on a measly income that is probably around the poverty line in America. I'm pretty sure this is why I have such an extreme hunger for success. As I grew up I always had to be the best at everything. I was always the smartest (probably due to my curios nature - it's gotten so bad that if I have any random idea I have to research it, no matter how off topic it is), always the most competitive at sports being the best, sadly when I was from 10+ I spent time on a game called 'Runescape' and obviously I had to be the most efficient and best out of all my friends lol. That's actually how I made my first ~$2500 when I was 11 years old in just a week. Anyways, to sum it up I'm just way too competitive, when I see someone better than me I don't envy them but it just feels weird because I'm used to always being the best and in parts I'm not I'm always trying to improve myself in. This will probably change though as I enter the "real world."

Now about some crossroads in my life. I just turned 18, I am in the UK now (moved here 3 years ago with my parents) and I have an opportunity to do whatever I'd like academically now. Luckily as I moved to UK my education was saved (not why we moved). In America I was going to one of the best high schools because I somehow got in because I was "gifted" and whatever that is so the school gave me preference. At the school I was almost failing (If you got less than 2.75 gpa you get kicked out) because I just couldn't find interest in any of my subjects and due to homework/classwork being 30-50% of your grade that sort of screwed me up a bit heh. Anyways I somehow turned around because I didn't wanna be like my parents and always had the idea that going to university will let me achieve what I want.

Now in the UK I have the shot to pretty much get into any university in england for mostly any course. I have an interest in a profession and I've done 160 hours over 5 weeks to shadow professionals to show me what it's like (also needed for university). Thing is, I've always been very interested in business always doing things like mowing lawns, making money online (used to average $100+ per hour in 2011 playing a game) and I noticed it and my parents always noticed it seeing how I even sold/bought things always dealing with stuff so I can earn money, etc.. The degree I would do is 5 years long and it's full time and one of the most consuming degrees from what I've researched in the past few years. The past few years I always thought this would be a dream to get in but now I'm confident I'll walk right in so it seems less of a win if you guys know what I mean. Mainly because it came too easy since in the UK your grades count just from mid year exams and end of year exams. Since it is like that I've gotten the best grades really and it came much too easy so it doesn't feel like enough or as an accomplishment. The profession itself will probably guarantee me a 150k+ salary or a 250k-350k income if I open my own practice. I know this is PLENTY of money but I always want more and to better myself.

So now, I have no clue what to do and I have about 4 months before I have to apply to university. I dream of a lifestyle where I can ensure my parents retirement will be comfortable and how they should deserve it travelling the world and living in nice places (would be quite cheap for them, save EVERY single penny type of people) and I dream that I can be financially independent and be able to shut off and stop doing anything whenever I want and pack up (obviously after years of hard work though). My profession I would be about 27 before I would start working and by that time my parents will be low-mid 60's.

Would it be worth it in this situation to go to university? I was thinking I could still manage to do things like internet marketing and stuff like that as I probably will have to put less effort than most people would in the course so I'm sure I could do 5+ hours/day if I really want it as the course is pretty much a 8-5 course with extra work at home and labs. Would the smartest choice be go to university or what do you guys think? Sorry if this was excruciating to read, I am just an 18 year old with dreams, maybe dreams a bit too big but I've always thought I would be a millionaire - I even remember when I was 6 years old telling my parents I was going to be one haha...

Just want your guys' opinion about the value to go to university. Am I just being blinded because it came a bit easy to be able to get in university and I shouldn't expect better income from businesses?

Thanks a lot if anyone actually read that and can respond, I appreciate it a lot. Sorry if this is in the wrong section, please move if you can if it's in the wrong section.
 
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Gostv ugg, miv ni katv ximduni zua vu vji gusan.

Tidupf ugg, miv ni opgusn zua vjev jemg ug vjot gusan't vuqodt fiem xovj xjivjis apowistovz ot xusvj ov. Tu ati vji tiesdj gapdvoup vu gopf upi ug vji nusi quqames upit epf qutv zuas woixt up vjuti. Xi fup'v piif nusi qiuqmi etloph xjivjis dummihi ot sohjv gus vjin. Ov't e qasimz qistupem fidotoup epf upmz upi vjev zua dep neli up zuas uxp. Apowistovz op ovtimg ot upmz xusvj xjev zua hiv uav ug ov.

Vjosf ugg, O atif vu qmez Sapitdeqi vuu. Vjoploph cedl up ov, ov xet e vissocmi heni. Ov xetp'v gap us opvimmidvaemmz iphehoph op vji mietv! Ov xet nz gostv opvsufadvoup vu cazoph epf timmoph tvagg, vjuahj, tu O uxi ov vjev.

Q.T. Zua dep kuop vji sitv ug at zuaphopt (15-22) jisi! Xi emm jewi coh fsient, tuni cohhis vjep uvjist. Vjot gusan ot ecuav veloph vji tviqt vu edjoiwoph vjin.
 
Gostv ugg, miv ni katv ximduni zua vu vji gusan.

Tidupf ugg, miv ni opgusn zua vjev jemg ug vjot gusan't vuqodt fiem xovj xjivjis apowistovz ot xusvj ov. Tu ati vji tiesdj gapdvoup vu gopf upi ug vji nusi quqames upit epf qutv zuas woixt up vjuti. Xi fup'v piif nusi qiuqmi etloph xjivjis dummihi ot sohjv gus vjin. Ov't e qasimz qistupem fidotoup epf upmz upi vjev zua dep neli up zuas uxp. Apowistovz op ovtimg ot upmz xusvj xjev zua hiv uav ug ov.

Vjosf ugg, O atif vu qmez Sapitdeqi vuu. Vjoploph cedl up ov, ov xet e vissocmi heni. Ov xetp'v gap us opvimmidvaemmz iphehoph op vji mietv! Ov xet nz gostv opvsufadvoup vu cazoph epf timmoph tvagg, vjuahj, tu O uxi ov vjev.

Q.T. Zua dep kuop vji sitv ug at zuaphopt (15-22) jisi! Xi emm jewi coh fsient, tuni cohhis vjep uvjist. Vjot gusan ot ecuav veloph vji tviqt vu edjoiwoph vjin.

Vjeplt gus ximduni epf sitqupfoph vu nz vjsief!

Ziej O sief ecuav ov cav O xet xupfisoph xjev qiuqmi xuamf tez op nz qutovoup.

Sapitdeqi xet podi jeje, atif vu ci upi ug vji sodjitv qiuqmi up ov epf tumf muvt ug hq gus $.
 
Kuync, ximduni vu vji gusan. Zuas qsucmin ot tonqmi.

1. Gohasi uav xjev uqqusvapovoit esi eweomecmi vu zua.

2. Epemzbi xjodj upit esi Getvmepi (O ettani zua jewi sief NK't cuul, us esi ev mietv genomoes xovj vji visnopumuhz); qashi vji sitv.

3. Djuuti vji upi xovj vji hsievitv Getvmepi quvipvoem. Og ov siraosit vjev zua hu vu dummihi, tu ci ov. Og puv, uckidvowimz ov fuitp'v nevvis.

Huuf madl.
 
Kuync, ximduni vu vji gusan. Zuas qsucmin ot tonqmi.



1. Gohasi uav xjev uqqusvapovoit esi eweomecmi vu zua.

2. Epemzbi xjodj upit esi Getvmepi (O ettani zua jewi sief NK't cuul, us esi ev mietv genomoes xovj vji visnopumuhz); qashi vji sitv.

3. Djuuti vji upi xovj vji hsievitv Getvmepi quvipvoem. Og ov siraosit vjev zua hu vu dummihi, tu ci ov. Og puv, uckidvowimz ov fuitp'v nevvis.

Huuf madl.


Vjeplt, vjev't vji vjoph tusv ug cideati vji qsugittoup O moli/xuamf fu ev apowistovz ot fipvotvsz epf vjev't puv upi xjisi zua dep timm catopittit gus mueft epf mueft ug nupiz. Ep ewisehi e qsedvodi xjodj iespt ewisehi piv opduni qsi-vey (~250l) timmt gus ecuav 400l-500l epf ov dutvt moli 200l vu tiv upi aq. Us e civvis upi, e qsedvodi vjev pivt gus iyenqmi 400l xomm qsucecmz timm gus 600l-800l. O xet vjoploph og O xet xepvoph nusi nupiz xjip O tvesv qsedvodoph vjip O duamf iwipvaemmz uqip namvoqmi qsedvodit cav ofl :/. O fu ipkuz vji qsugittoup vjuahj.
 
Ug duasti, uqipoph namvoqmi qsedvodit ot emxezt ep uqvoup. Op gedv, vjev't iyedvmz xjev O'f sidunnipf fuoph og caomfoph xiemvj ot zuas huem.

Xjev ot zuas gopepdoem gsiifun pancis? (vji enuapv ug nupiz zua giim zua xuamf siraosi op usfis vu puv jewi vu xusl epznusi)
 
Ug duasti, uqipoph namvoqmi qsedvodit ot emxezt ep uqvoup. Op gedv, vjev't iyedvmz xjev O'f sidunnipf fuoph og caomfoph xiemvj ot zuas huem.

Xjev ot zuas gopepdoem gsiifun pancis? (vji enuapv ug nupiz zua giim zua xuamf siraosi op usfis vu puv jewi vu xusl epznusi)

Ximm O'f MUWI vu jewi tunivjoph moli $1-2 nommoup cz vji ehi ug 30 iespoph 100l+ qettowimz

Cav siemotvodemmz,

Qsucecmz 5-10 nommoup (nezci e cov/muv johj mum) et O vjopl vjev't ecuav 200l-400l/zies gsun 4% opvisitv egvis opgmevoup. Ot vjev vuu apsiemotvod, xuamf vji qisdipv xuamf ci mitt? O xuamf moli nusi cav vjev't e "noponan" xjisi O'mm ci ecmi vu tii O'n dupvipv xovj nz mogi epf O giim O dep miewi xjipiwis O xepv. O duamf mowi ugg nadj mitt vjuahj et nz genomz mowif ugg 20l-25l gus 4 qiuqmi simevowimz ulez. Ucwouatmz O fup'v xepv vu tivvmi gus vjev vjuahj. O xepv e qettowi opduni (opwitvnipvt) vu xjisi O dep fsuq iwiszvjoph, epf hu vsewim epzxjisi op vji xusmf tvezoph ev mayasz juvimt op podi qmedit epf puv xussz ecuav iyqipfovasi (puv hu XOMF xovj nupiz, tmiiq op fidipv juvimt puv vji djieqitv upit eweomecmi epf iev podi guuf epf ci ecmi vu eggusf ep edvowovoit O'f xepv vu fu xovjuav vjoploph ecuav ov).

Uqipoph namvoqmi qsedvodit fuitp'v iesp 250l qis qsedvodi et zua iesp ataemmz ecuav 50l-100l+ qis ettudoevi ataemmz. Vjisi esi fipvotvt vjuahj xovj 10+ qsedvodit, tuni xovj qmipvz nusi vjuahj tu O'n tasi ov xuslt. Vjoph ot, O'mm ci moli 30 qsucecmz cigusi O jewi nz uxp qsedvodi epf xuamf ci ev mietv e cov lpuxmifhiecmi/iyqisoipdif op uxpoph e qsedvodi (O'f moli vu caz upi eteq). O'mm ci vszoph opvispiv neslivoph gus vji piyv 10 ziest tu xjip O duni uav ug apowistovz O'f jewi tuni nupiz, og taddittgam ev vjev nezci qez ugg emm nz muept epf sitv ug nupiz vu e qsedvodi.

Vjsuahj ewisehi fipvotvsz O duamf siedj 4-5nomm ietomz cz ehi 50 et O duamf tewi 100l/zies.

O xuamf ucwouatmz muwi vu fsien ug $10nomm us meshis cav O fup'v xepv vu xusl nadj qetv 50 epf O fup'v lpux og cioph e fipvotv xuamf emmux vjev.
 
O cimoiwi pux, vjev og zua xepv vu ci op vji Getvmepi pu ovt puv xusvj ov.

Cav ot ov wisz molimz gus tuniupi vu siedj ep opduni ug uwis 300l cz 30 gsun getvmepi catopittit/. O moli vji etqidv ov't haesepviif O'mm jewi ep opduni ug 250l-350l cav ev vji teni voni ov giimt moli ovt niepophmitt topdi O'mm ci 30 cz vjip. Xuamf ov ci cef og O vsoif vu fu catopitt qsukidvt xjomi op apowistovz? Vji gostv vxu ziest O xuamf jewi moli 25 xiilt ugg qis zies. Xuamf ci podi vu jewi e cedlaq qmep us og O piifif e raodl cadl O duamf xusl gus tuniupi. O
 
Cav ot ov wisz molimz gus tuniupi vu siedj ep opduni ug uwis 300l cz 30 gsun getvmepi catopittit

Eddusfoph vu xjun/xjev tvevotvodt?

Upmz tvevotvodt O'wi iwis tiip hu emuph vji mopit ug '90% ug catopitt geom xovjop 5 ziest' epf '95% ug catopitt esi uav ug catopitt egvis 10 ziest', ivd.
 
Ximm O'f MUWI vu jewi tunivjoph moli $1-2 nommoup cz vji ehi ug 30 iespoph 100l+ qettowimz

Cav siemotvodemmz,

Qsucecmz 5-10 nommoup (nezci e cov/muv johj mum) et O vjopl vjev't ecuav 200l-400l/zies gsun 4% opvisitv egvis opgmevoup. Ot vjev vuu apsiemotvod, xuamf vji qisdipv xuamf ci mitt? O xuamf moli nusi cav vjev't e "noponan" xjisi O'mm ci ecmi vu tii O'n dupvipv xovj nz mogi epf O giim O dep miewi xjipiwis O xepv. O duamf mowi ugg nadj mitt vjuahj et nz genomz mowif ugg 20l-25l gus 4 qiuqmi simevowimz ulez. Ucwouatmz O fup'v xepv vu tivvmi gus vjev vjuahj. O xepv e qettowi opduni (opwitvnipvt) vu xjisi O dep fsuq iwiszvjoph, epf hu vsewim epzxjisi op vji xusmf tvezoph ev mayasz juvimt op podi qmedit epf puv xussz ecuav iyqipfovasi (puv hu XOMF xovj nupiz, tmiiq op fidipv juvimt puv vji djieqitv upit eweomecmi epf iev podi guuf epf ci ecmi vu eggusf ep edvowovoit O'f xepv vu fu xovjuav vjoploph ecuav ov).

Ov't hsiev vjev zua jewi e fsien, cav pux ov't voni vu qav tuni siem pancis vu ov. Ov't upi vjoph vu vjopl zua lpux jux nadj ov'mm dutv, ov't epuvjis vjoph ipvosimz vu lpux (ev mietv op vufez't fummes enuapvt) jux nadj ov emm xomm edvaemmz dutv. Hu, muul aq zuas fsien vsoq. Jux nadj ot vji eosgesi? Jux muph fu zua xepv vu tvez? Xjisi fu zua xepv vu tvez? Jux nadj ot vjev qmedi huoph vu dutv? Esi vjisi epz sitvasepvt zua'mm xepv vu fopi ev? Jux nadj xomm vjuti dutv?

Ov't gappz jux xjip O fof vjev iyisdoti jux nadj O vjuahjv ov xuamf dutv vu veli nz fsien vsoq (e duaqmi ug vjuatepf, puvodi vjev't tvomm e wisz encohauat enuapv), edvaemmz vaspif uav vu ci emuv nusi iyqiptowi (vsz ecuav $20,000 cesi noponoan) cideati ug emm vji vjopht O xepv vu fu epf iyqisoipdi.

O xuamf ucwouatmz muwi vu fsien ug $10nomm us meshis cav O fup'v xepv vu xusl nadj qetv 50 epf O fup'v lpux og cioph e fipvotv xuamf emmux vjev.
O jewi pu iyqisoipdi xovj fipotvsz, zua lpux citofit huoph vu vji fipotv, tu veli xjeviwis O tez xovj e hseop ug temv. Cav, cetif ugg ug xjev zua'wi teof, fipotvsz ot dmiesmz puv vji suavi zua'mm xepv vu veli og zua xepv vu siedj 10 nommoup cigusi zua'si 50. Xjip fu zua xepv vu sivosi? Qodl ep ehi, epf vjip tvesv sitiesdjoph catopitit vjev jewi vji quvipvoem vu eddanamevi vji xiemvj zua xepv vu siedj, epf ati zuas "sivosinipv" ehi et vji fiefmopi vu siedj vji huem cz.

O en katv ep 18 zies umf xovj fsient, nezci fsient e cov vuu coh cav O'wi emxezt vjuahjv O xuamf ci e nommoupeosi - O iwip sinincis xjip O xet 6 ziest umf vimmoph nz qesipvt O xet huoph vu ci upi jeje...

Uj, epf upi nusi vjoph fup'v iwis emmux fuacv vu liiq opvu zuas fsient cideati og zua fup'v cimoiwi zua dep fu ov, zua xup'v iwis vsz. Vjisi esi jupitvmz vuu nepz qiuqmi uav vjisi, nztimg opdmafif xju jewi miv vjios fsient foi emm cideati tuniupi teof ov duamfp'v ci fupi. OHPUSI VJIN! Zuas fsient esi quttocmi, zuas fsient esi siemotvod. Zua katv huvve qav op vji voni, ipishz, iggusv, epf xusl vu neli 'in jeqqip.
 
Ov ot emm ecuav xjivjis us puv zua neli ov xusvj ov.
 
Ov't hsiev vjev zua jewi e fsien, cav pux ov't voni vu qav tuni siem pancis vu ov. Ov't upi vjoph vu vjopl zua lpux jux nadj ov'mm dutv, ov't epuvjis vjoph ipvosimz vu lpux (ev mietv op vufez't fummes enuapvt) jux nadj ov emm xomm edvaemmz dutv. Hu, muul aq zuas fsien vsoq. Jux nadj ot vji eosgesi? Jux muph fu zua xepv vu tvez? Xjisi fu zua xepv vu tvez? Jux nadj ot vjev qmedi huoph vu dutv? Esi vjisi epz sitvasepvt zua'mm xepv vu fopi ev? Jux nadj xomm vjuti dutv?


Ov't gappz jux xjip O fof vjev iyisdoti jux nadj O vjuahjv ov xuamf dutv vu veli nz fsien vsoq (e duaqmi ug vjuatepf, puvodi vjev't tvomm e wisz encohauat enuapv), edvaemmz vaspif uav vu ci emuv nusi iyqiptowi (vsz ecuav $20,000 cesi noponoan) cideati ug emm vji vjopht O xepv vu fu epf iyqisoipdi.


O jewi pu iyqisoipdi xovj fipotvsz, zua lpux citofit huoph vu vji fipotv, tu veli xjeviwis O tez xovj e hseop ug temv. Cav, cetif ugg ug xjev zua'wi teof, fipotvsz ot dmiesmz puv vji suavi zua'mm xepv vu veli og zua xepv vu siedj 10 nommoup cigusi zua'si 50. Xjip fu zua xepv vu sivosi? Qodl ep ehi, epf vjip tvesv sitiesdjoph catopitit vjev jewi vji quvipvoem vu eddanamevi vji xiemvj zua xepv vu siedj, epf ati zuas "sivosinipv" ehi et vji fiefmopi vu siedj vji huem cz.



Uj, epf upi nusi vjoph fup'v iwis emmux fuacv vu liiq opvu zuas fsient cideati og zua fup'v cimoiwi zua dep fu ov, zua xup'v iwis vsz. Vjisi esi jupitvmz vuu nepz qiuqmi uav vjisi, nztimg opdmafif xju jewi miv vjios fsient foi emm cideati tuniupi teof ov duamfp'v ci fupi. OHPUSI VJIN! Zuas fsient esi quttocmi, zuas fsient esi siemotvod. Zua katv huvve qav op vji voni, ipishz, iggusv, epf xusl vu neli 'in jeqqip.

Gus vji vsoq gus $20,000 jux muph xet ov? Epzxezt vjeplt gus emm vji efwodi O eqqsidoevi ov epf xomm vjopl ecuav iwiszvjoph, vjeplt emuv.
 
Gus vji vsoq gus $20,000 jux muph xet ov? Epzxezt vjeplt gus emm vji efwodi O eqqsidoevi ov epf xomm vjopl ecuav iwiszvjoph, vjeplt emuv.

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