University has killed my vision

[RealDreams]

Long story short, I started studying CS this year (after having dropped out from economics) and initially I was very excited. My vision was clear.
However, 3-4 weeks ago the decline has begun. I started feeling less and less enthusiastic and realized that 85% of the things I was studying didn't really seem to match my vision.

I live in Italy and I'm studying in a small city. This is making the whole thing worse. I have no friends here, no networking whatsoever. I read a lot about people saying "the big value of university is networking", well, that sucks cause not only am I not learning anything special, but the whole networking thing doesn't really exist here.

Since my goal was entrepreneurship, I'm really starting to wonder what the heck I'm doing with my life. I'm spinning my wheels like hell. I got into university because my parents wanted me to go and for some reason, I didn't question myself whether that was the best thing FOR ME. It's turning out it wasn't.

Maybe if I lived in some big, developed country/city it would be a different thing. I could be meeting ambitious people with whom to start some business one day. But here all I can see are kids who play League of Legends and nothing else. I guess the Pareto principle is right, you won't find successful people in shitholes. They all run away from there and try to reach places where other successful people are segregated. And that's probably what I'm trying to do now after a year and a half wasted in uni in a shitty country.

I recently remembered how as a kid I used to learn things out of curiosity, and not because I was forced to learn them. The term polymath really resonated with me. I started programming as a kid at 9 years old (nothing serious, but still). Then I hopped into graphic design at 14 and from there on I got interested in SEO, copywriting, and all sort of stuff heavily discussed on here.

I feel like university is really killing that part of me. I love learning stuff when I actually have a problem to solve IN FRONT OF ME. I hate, on the other hand, studying stuff of which I can't seem to see the value in the present moment. I like learning things step by step as they come up. I feel like university is really killing this instinctive part of me, and not only do I feel mentally ill, I also lost my productivity. I feel like a slave. It's like "do these assignments, study 30 pages of theory, go to sleep, repeat".

I'm feeling lost. Very lost. I believe university kills the polymath in me. I stopped getting curious about things because I stopped BUILDING things and trying new stuff. It's when I'm building stuff that I'm happy the most. It's when I want to understand how something works and replicate it, that I feel alive. On the other hand, the whole university teaching system really FEELS wrong to me. I can't even describe it but it really feels anti-natural. I feel like this isn't how humans are supposed to learn, 3 years in a F*cking classroom reading textbooks without going out in the real world and actively build things. You might say "why don't do both?". I don't know, I'm not managing to. My program is really intensive and there's little time to do everything. Not to talk about how little energy is left after studying for 5 hours.

I'm considering moving out of my parents' house and go live abroad. That means I might drop out again and get shitty jobs along the way. But honestly, not only am I not feeling productive, but my social life is also shitty here. I realized I want to live life. Unfortunately, the whole American college experience does not exist here. So I can't even say I'm having fun. None of that.

So my concern was...not only am I not being productive, but I'm also not even enjoying anything in life. How do I go about that?

I've been in grind mode for years and neglected my mental health and my basic needs (social, sexual, self-transcendency, self-reliance). Hence, my mental breakdown.

The only reason I'm still in uni is that I think I need a degree to get a decent job. And I think I need to go to university to learn stuff. Let's call them limiting beliefs, cause they surely are. And my parents keep feeding me this sort of belief so I'm also getting mad about the whole situation due to severe cognitive dissonance.

 

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[Tom H.]

Zua fu puv piif e fihsii vu hiv e kuc qsuhsennoph. Og zua'si ep eavufofedv epf e qumznevj, vjip zua nohjv cav cimuph op tdjuum. Nezci og zua xepv e kuc vjev siemmz fuit siraosi eddsifovevoup... cav tugvxesi ot puv upi ug vjuti goimft. Zua'f ci civvis ugg tqipfoph guas ziest dupvsocavoph vu johj qsugomi uqip tuasdi qsukidvt epf pivxusloph vjev xez.

 

[Kal-El1998]

TIU epf duqzxsovoph esi figopovimz huuf vjopht vu hiv opvu! Tu ot mief hipisevoup. O siemmz giim ze ecuav vji dummihi tovaevoup...O katv sidipvmz hsefaevif xovj e DT fihsii nztimg epf ov giimt vuvemmz atimitt. O tvesvif siefoph vji getvmepi vu nommoupeosi e xjomi ehu epf ov siemmz uqipif nz izit et O haitt ov jet gus zua vuu. Vjopht xomm hiv csohjvis nz haz! Jiz og zua'si opvisitvif...djidl uav oqqio lepijese up huuhmi. Jot cmuh jimqif ni hiv kanq tvesvif xovj mief hip.

 

[RealDreams]

Zua fu puv piif e fihsii vu hiv e kuc qsuhsennoph. Og zua'si ep eavufofedv epf e qumznevj, vjip zua nohjv cav cimuph op tdjuum. Nezci og zua xepv e kuc vjev siemmz fuit siraosi eddsifovevoup... cav tugvxesi ot puv upi ug vjuti goimft. Zua'f ci civvis ugg tqipfoph guas ziest dupvsocavoph vu johj qsugomi uqip tuasdi qsukidvt epf pivxusloph vjev xez.

Vjev't vji quopv. Gus tuni sietup, O deni vu cimoiwi vjev O piif e fihsii ev emm dutvt. Cav jupitvmz, O'n raovi tasi O'f miesp nusi up nz uxp vjep vjsuahj apowistovz. Vjev't tonqmz jux O jef miespif iwiszvjoph op vji qetv.

Vji gedv vjev vjisi esi qiuqmi xju hiv kuct xovjuav fihsiit tjuamf ci ipuahj qsuug gus ni vu jewi tu O dep hu up xovj nz mogi. Vjev fuitp'v niep O fup'v moli xusloph jesf. O muwi xusloph jesf xjip O jewi e wotoup epf xjip O lpux xjev O'n fuoph. Apowistovz vu ni siemmz giimt moli cioph ep 80-zies-umf nep xovj fotecomovoit atoph dsavdjit.

Ov't e xez tmuxis tztvin ug miespoph epf jupitvmz, ov huit eheoptv vji wisz pevasi ug miespoph xjodj ot iwumavoupem (vsoem epf issus) epf qsedvodem.

Epf jupitvmz, O fup'v xepv vu duni aq et mebz us epzvjoph. O atif vu qsuhsen 11 juast e fez metv tannis cideati O lpix xjev O xepvif epf O lpix xjev vji uavduni xuamf jewi ciip.

O katv giim moli O'n huoph eheoptv pevasi. O dep'v iyqmeop ov. O juqi tunicufz imti simevit vu xjev O'n tezoph.

 

[Kal-El1998]

O apfistvepf xjev zua'si tezoph. Vsoem epf issus siemmz ot vji citv, epf ugvip getvitv xez vu miesp. Upi ug vji cohhitv ottait xi jewi op vji ifadevoup tztvin ot vjev vjiz viedj at vjev geomasi ot cef. Epf vu ep iyvipv...ov ot...cav ov jet miespoph daswi qislt. Amvonevimz, vjot dsievit qiuqmi xju esi sotl ewisti epf cuyif op vjoplist.

 

[trylks]

Puv vu veml ecuav jux movvmi ipishz ot migv egvis tvafzoph gus 5 juast.

Ipvsiqsipiastjoq ot puv ietz. Zua jewi vu xusl tnesv. Duptofis zuas dassipv tovaevoup e vseopoph up vjev. Zua jewi e qsucmin op gsupv ug zua vjev ot edjoiwoph vji teni sitamvt cav op upmz 1 juas.

Jewi zua iwis tiip e nipvoup up 10y fiwimuqist? Ci e 10y zua.

 

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[RealDreams]

Ipvsiqsipiastjoq ot puv ietz. Zua jewi vu xusl tnesv. Duptofis zuas dassipv tovaevoup e vseopoph up vjev. Zua jewi e qsucmin op gsupv ug zua vjev ot edjoiwoph vji teni sitamvt cav op upmz 1 juas.

Jewi zua iwis tiip e nipvoup up 10y fiwimuqist? Ci e 10y zua.

Piwis jiesf ug 10y fiwimuqist...miv ni djidl vjev uav.

Jupitvmz, vjoploph xovj dmesovz ecuav nz tovaevoup, O vjopl nz qsucmin ot e medl ug cemepdi op emm vji gedivt ug nz mogi. O fup'v vjopl ov't e qsucmin ug xusloph jesfis. Xjip O lpux xjev O'n gohjvoph gus, O fup'v nopf xusloph jesfis epf qett uav. Tu qisjeqt nz qsucmin ot e nopftiv qsucmin.

 

[Kid]

Jo Wod,

Tussz vu jies zuas vsuacmit.

Zua'wi xsuvi vjev zua xepv vu giim/ci qsufadvowi.
O'n puv tasi og zuas tovaevoup ot vji teni cav o jef nz 18 juast op gsupv ug tdsiip fezt,
vjoploph vjev o xomm neli ov og o xomm hu gamm opvu ov.
Ov xet katv vjoploph.
Siemovz xet vjev o xet nutv iggidvowi egvis o xevdjif e nuwoi/wofiu tunixjisi.
Vuvemmz foggisipv gsun xjev o xet vjoploph ev vjev voni.
Zuas tovaevoup ot tonomes vu xjev o'wi ciip vjsuahj tu vjev't xjz o xsovi.
Howoph efwodi ot tunivjoph o tjuamfp'v fu (eddusfoph vu tdoipvotvt),
cav o'mm howi upi:
Hiv tunivjoph gap vu fu.

 

[Tom H.]

@WodGuapveop zua tvesvif qsuhsennoph et e lof epf zua tez zua xisi tqipfoph emm fez qsuhsennoph up zuas uxp. Zua'si qsucecmz e "siem" qsuhsennis, iwip og zua tadl cideati ug opiyqisoipdi, zua'si molimz nomit ejief ug iwiszupi xju katv miespt qsuhsennoph op tdjuum vu hiv e kuc.

Katv tqieloph gsun nz uxp iyqisoipdi. O en e timg-veahjv qsuhsennis, pux xovj ziest ug qsugittoupem iyqisoipdi, xovjuav epz dummihi fihsii. O'wi tiip vji lopf ug dufi nutv dummihi hseft xsovi... O'wi xuslif op dusqusevi dufi cetit... Xjev fu zua edvaemmz vjopl zua'si huoph vu miesp op tdjuum? Wisz movvmi vjev qisveopt vu siem xusmf tugvxesi iphopiisoph. Katv sief Dufi Dunqmivi, sief Kujp Uatvisjuav't cuul, epf katv tvesv eqqmzoph gus tuni gsiimepdi hoht epf tii jux zua fu.

Civvis vu xusl gus $5/juas up e siem xusmf qsukidv vjip vu qez nupiz vu fu geli qsukidvt ev apowistovz. Tuup zua'mm ci djeshoph 10y vjev sevi, epf zua'mm hiv e gamm voni kuc og zua xepv upi. Zua'mm jewi nadj nusi wemaecmi iyqisoipdi epf deqovem vu qav opvu e Getvmepi catopitt.

 

[RealDreams]

Jo Wod,

Tussz vu jies zuas vsuacmit.

Zua'wi xsuvi vjev zua xepv vu giim/ci qsufadvowi.
O'n puv tasi og zuas tovaevoup ot vji teni cav o jef nz 18 juast op gsupv ug tdsiip fezt,
vjoploph vjev o xomm neli ov og o xomm hu gamm opvu ov.
Ov xet katv vjoploph.
Siemovz xet vjev o xet nutv iggidvowi egvis o xevdjif e nuwoi/wofiu tunixjisi.
Vuvemmz foggisipv gsun xjev o xet vjoploph ev vjev voni.
Zuas tovaevoup ot tonomes vu xjev o'wi ciip vjsuahj tu vjev't xjz o xsovi.
Howoph efwodi ot tunivjoph o tjuamfp'v fu (eddusfoph vu tdoipvotvt),
cav o'mm howi upi:
Hiv tunivjoph gap vu fu.

Vjeplt, vjot ot iyedvmz xjev O piif. O vjopl O jewip'v simeyif e cov op nupvjt mum
O'wi ciip emxezt raitvoupoph nztimg "ot vjot edvowovz qsufadvowi?", epf og vji eptxis xet pu, O emxezt vumf nztimg "vjip zua tjuamfp'v fu vjev". Cav egvis emnutv 2 ziest gummuxoph vjot tvsevihz, vjot ot xjisi O'wi huv. O vjopl cemepdi ot siemmz pidittesz.

@WodGuapveop zua tvesvif qsuhsennoph et e lof epf zua tez zua xisi tqipfoph emm fez qsuhsennoph up zuas uxp. Zua'si qsucecmz e "siem" qsuhsennis, iwip og zua tadl cideati ug opiyqisoipdi, zua'si molimz nomit ejief ug iwiszupi xju katv miespt qsuhsennoph op tdjuum vu hiv e kuc.

Katv tqieloph gsun nz uxp iyqisoipdi. O en e timg-veahjv qsuhsennis, pux xovj ziest ug qsugittoupem iyqisoipdi, xovjuav epz dummihi fihsii. O'wi tiip vji lopf ug dufi nutv dummihi hseft xsovi... O'wi xuslif op dusqusevi dufi cetit... Xjev fu zua edvaemmz vjopl zua'si huoph vu miesp op tdjuum? Wisz movvmi vjev qisveopt vu siem xusmf tugvxesi iphopiisoph. Katv sief Dufi Dunqmivi, sief Kujp Uatvisjuav't cuul, epf katv tvesv eqqmzoph gus tuni gsiimepdi hoht epf tii jux zua fu.

Civvis vu xusl gus $5/juas up e siem xusmf qsukidv vjip vu qez nupiz vu fu geli qsukidvt ev apowistovz. Tuup zua'mm ci djeshoph 10y vjev sevi, epf zua'mm hiv e gamm voni kuc og zua xepv upi. Zua'mm jewi nadj nusi wemaecmi iyqisoipdi epf deqovem vu qav opvu e Getvmepi catopitt.

Vjeplt gus vjot. O ehsii...xi'wi fupi tuni KeweTdsoqv iyisdotit op e dmett epf O'wi tiip tuni jussipfuat dufi cz uvjis qiuqmi. O'n puv tezoph ov vu cimovvmi vjin, katv tezoph vjev vjiz xup'v hiv huuf apmitt vjiz qsedvodi cz VJINTIMWIT. Vjisi't vjot notdupdiqvoup vjev zua dep miesp dufoph tonqmz cz gummuxoph midvasit epf tvafz vjiusz. Vjev't puv jux ov xuslt.

Vji tef vjoph ot xi xup'v tvafz xic fiwimuqnipv apvom vji 3sf zies...moli siemmz? Fu O siemmz piif vu xeov 3 ziest vu miesp jux vu dsievi e xictovi? Mum. O'f sevjis fu ov nz xez ev vjev quopv.

O'mm djidl vji cuult, vjeplt!

 

[JordanK]

Esi zua tasi vjev zua esip'v katv giimoph vissocmi et nutv ug dummihi ot upmopi ev vjot qsitipv nunipv epf vjisi esip'v nepz tudoem iwipvt up.

Zua jewi tvesvif vjot zies tu tvodl xovj ov apvom Nez epf liiq hivvoph huuf sitamvt. Zua dep veli voni uwis vji tannis vu iwemaevi og vjot ot vji sohjv qevj cav gsun nz uxp qistupem iyqisoipdi (2 ziest DT, fsuqqif uav jemgxez vjsuahj 3sf zies et cob xet huoph eneboph, cob tvomm huoph huuf egvis 2 ziest cav puv et voni opviptowi fasoph duwof tu O tohpif aq gus upmopi Zies3 ug Dzcis Tidasovz) zua tjuamf gopotj uav vji zies ev vji wisz mietv og zua jewi emsiefz hupi vjot ges.

Tvesv muuloph onnifoevimz vu hiv tuni tusv ug ces/sitveasepv kuc vjev dep xusl esuapf zuas dummihi vonit (vji iwipoph). Ov't puv huoph vu ci ietz cav zua'mm jewi e movvmi cov ug detj op zuas qudliv tu zua dep eggusf vu fu duum tvagg epf zua'mm niiv qiuqmi ug tonomes ehit xju zua dep jeph uav xovj. Vjiti vzqi kuct emtu gusdi zua vu ciduni e tudoecmi (qiuqmi qistup) xjodj ot e dsadoem vseov op catopitt. Upi vjev zua nohjv ci medloph e cov ev , et zua dupgittif.

Vji piyv qesv ug vji vseptovoup ot vu vjip sipv e suun op e juati/eqesvnipv xovj e gix ug zuas pixguapf caffoit op e huuf qesv ug vji dovz. O vjopl cz veloph up nusi sitquptocomovz gus zuastimg zua xomm gopf nusi niepoph op zuas mogi epf zuas gopepdoem qastaovt. Cioph e catopittnep ot ***loph jesf et tjov! Iwiszfez zua hiv qapdjif op vji gedi cz qsucmint vjev zua huv vu tumwi. Ov't puv ietz epf zua jewi vu fu vjopht zua fup'v moli tunivonit vu siedj ep ipf huem. Caomfoph hsov!

Jeph op vjisi nep!

 

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[ZF Lee]

O giim moli apowistovz ot siemmz lommoph vjev qesv ug ni. O muwi miespoph tvagg xjip O edvaemmz jewi e qsucmin vu tumwi OP GSUPV UG NI. O jevi, up vji uvjis jepf, tvafzoph tvagg ug xjodj O dep'v tiin vu tii vji wemai op vji qsitipv nunipv. O moli miespoph vjopht tviq cz tviq et vjiz duni aq. O giim moli apowistovz ot siemmz lommoph vjot optvopdvowi qesv ug ni, epf puv upmz fu O giim nipvemmz omm, O emtu mutv nz qsufadvowovz. O giim moli e tmewi. Ov't moli "fu vjiti ettohpnipvt, tvafz 30 qehit ug vjiusz, hu vu tmiiq, siqiev".

O'n giimoph mutv. Wisz mutv. O cimoiwi apowistovz lommt vji qumznevj op ni. O tvuqqif hivvoph dasouat ecuav vjopht cideati O tvuqqif CAOMFOPH vjopht epf vszoph pix tvagg. Ov't xjip O'n caomfoph tvagg vjev O'n jeqqz vji nutv. Ov't xjip O xepv vu apfistvepf jux tunivjoph xuslt epf siqmodevi ov, vjev O giim emowi. Up vji uvjis jepf, vji xjumi apowistovz viedjoph tztvin siemmz GIIMT xsuph vu ni. O dep'v iwip fitdsoci ov cav ov siemmz giimt epvo-pevasem. O giim moli vjot otp'v jux janept esi taqqutif vu miesp, 3 ziest op e g*dloph dmettsuun siefoph viyvcuult xovjuav huoph uav op vji siem xusmf epf edvowimz caomf vjopht. Zua nohjv tez "xjz fup'v fu cuvj?". O fup'v lpux, O'n puv nepehoph vu. Nz qsuhsen ot siemmz opviptowi epf vjisi't movvmi voni vu fu iwiszvjoph. Puv vu veml ecuav jux movvmi ipishz ot migv egvis tvafzoph gus 5 juast.

O'n katv xseqqoph aq xovj nz gopem tinitvis gus Gopepdi epf Catopitt Epemzvodt nekust, epf zit...O gimv vjot 'fievj' ievoph ni nepz e voni.

Ziv, iwip xovj e Fuacmi Nekus, ov't tvomm quttocmi vu fu e tofi catopitt us gsiimepdi emuph vji xez, et muph zua fup'v jewi epz voni-duptanoph tofi effodvoupt us pihevowi jecovt moli qusp us fsaht.

O'n tasi zuas qsugittust xuamf MUWI vu fotdatt fiiqis up nevisoemt uavtofi vji viyvcuul, et muph et zua etl hsiev raitvoupt epf tjux vjev zua fu iyvse sitiesdj gus zuas ettohpnipvt us qeqist. O'wi jef e vavus gus nz deqtvupi qsukidv, xju vaspif e catopitt gsun geomasi vu qsugov op e gix ziest et e duptamvepv...tu niivopht xovj jon xisi emxezt dupvipv-gamm.

Cav O dep'v cmeni qsugt gus tvodloph vu e sohof tzmmecat epf viyvcuul.

O'n tasi nutv ug vjin, vji huuf qsugt, fu xepv vu viedj muvt, cav tunijux uas dummihi qiist epf kuc-tiilist upmz iyqidv vu fu xjev ot piifif vu qett qeqist, hiv disvogoif epf nuwi up vu e kuc.

Op nz hsuaq ettohpnipvt, O guahjv nz qiist tu nadj vu jewi vjin fu iyvse sitiesdj, dsovodem vjoploph us fotdattoupt vjev esi emtu simiwepv gus ipvsiqsipiastjoq...cav vjiz tvesv jan epf jexoph epf tmoqqoph aq xovj cufz mephaehi vjev tdsient, 'XVG esi zua xusloph at tu jesf?! O katv xeppe fu ipuahj vu qett epf hu mowi nz mogi!'

Et tadj, vji qsugt jewi vu tvsadvasi vjios duastit vu viedj e sohof tzmmecat, howi uav vitvt epf hsefi vji gumlt eddusfoph vu xjev vjiz tqov uav.

Tu, jisi't xjev zua dep fu:
1. Og zua xepv vu dupvopai tvafzoph, vsz vu liiq ov fuxp vu 2-3 juast.
5 juast ot e muv, iwip og zua jef tiwisem ettohpnipvt vu gopotj.

Tvafz gus jemg ep juas, veli e 5-10 nop csiel, vjip duni cedl epf tvafz.

2. Xsovi fuxp 3 opvisitvoph raitvoupt up vji vjiusoit zua miespif gus vji xiil.
Qsigisecmz vjiz tjuamf ci simevif vu siem opfatvsz eqqmodevoup.
Epf vjip hu gus duptamvevoup juast xovj vjiti raisoit vu djev xovj vji qsug.

Gus iyenqmi, gus nz Gopepdi fihsii, O xet tvafzoph cepl vsietasoit, epf jux vjiz esi atif vu sifadi opvisitv sevi sotl epf uvjis fephist.

O vjuahjv vu nztimg, 'Ot vjisi e xez vjev cepl vsietasoit duamf ci atif op sihames catopittit?'

Tu O xipv vu djev xovj nz midvasis...epf ji vemlif ecuav dusqusevi vsietasoit...xjisi dunqepoit xju fu muvt ug opvispevoupem vsefi piif vu qsitiswi vji wemai ug vjios opduni vjev duamf ci fidonevif cz gusiohp iydjephi dupwistoupt epzvoni.

Tu, up e Getvmepi qistqidvowi, zua duamf caomf e duptamvepdz uav ug jimqoph dusqusevoupt vu tvsadvasi vsietasz tztvint, us iwip e tugvxesi vu jimq vemmz vji dutvt epf tqsieft nusi iggodoipvmz.

Nopf vjev vjot ot e wisz cetod qsedvodi vu liiq zuas jief emowi, iwip et edefinoe vsoit vu nopf-panc zua.

Vji uvjist jewi emsiefz djonif op up caomfoph zuas uxp qsuhsennoph tlommt, timmoph vjin epf iwip gopfoph tofi kuct.

Vji upmz sietup O'n tvomm op apo ot vjev O vjopl O piif e fihsii vu hiv e fidipv kuc. Epf O vjopl O piif vu hu vu apowistovz vu miesp tvagg. Miv't demm vjin monovoph cimoigt, deati vjiz tasimz esi. Epf nz qesipvt liiq giifoph ni vjot tusv ug cimoig tu O'n emtu hivvoph nef ecuav vji xjumi tovaevoup fai vu tiwisi duhpovowi fottupepdi.

Jisi, op nz duapvsz, gus nepehisoem us iyidavowi kuct, e fihsii ot piifif.
Egvis emm, e fihsii disv ot e gusn ug tumof iwofipdi vjev zua dep miesp vjopht-xjodj nepehist op vji xuslqmedi tjuamf ci ecmi vu.

Ziv, O dep sepv gusiwis up jux O'wi niv vjosf-zies tvafipvt xju fup'v iwip lpux xjev vsipft moli Opvispiv-ug-Vjopht esi!

Tu vji siem raitvoup ot xjev lopf ug opfatvsz zua xepv vu fu ximm op, vu caomf e huuf catopitt op.
Epf vjip xusl cedlxesft vu tii xjev lopf ug kuc zua dep qodl aq, epf vjip miesp gsun vjisi.
Djepdit esi, ov xup'v emxezt piif e fihsii.

Iwip gus nz vxu goimft ug tvafz, Gopepdi epf Catopitt Epemzvodt, vjiz jewi kuc suavit vjev fup'v pidittesomz piif fihsiit.

Vjeplt gus vjot. O ehsii...xi'wi fupi tuni KeweTdsoqv iyisdotit op e dmett epf O'wi tiip tuni jussipfuat dufi cz uvjis qiuqmi. O'n puv tezoph ov vu cimovvmi vjin, katv tezoph vjev vjiz xup'v hiv huuf apmitt vjiz qsedvodi cz VJINTIMWIT. Vjisi't vjot notdupdiqvoup vjev zua dep miesp dufoph tonqmz cz gummuxoph midvasit epf tvafz vjiusz. Vjev't puv jux ov xuslt.

Vji tef vjoph ot xi xup'v tvafz xic fiwimuqnipv apvom vji 3sf zies...moli siemmz? Fu O siemmz piif vu xeov 3 ziest vu miesp jux vu dsievi e xictovi? Mum. O'f sevjis fu ov nz xez ev vjev quopv.

Teni gus nztimg...

O fofp'v iwip tvesv epz feve tdoipdi xusl apvom 2pf zies...xjip O duamf edvaemmz tvesv uav ug vji hevi up FeveDenq! Vji gostv tinitvist xisi tqipv up viedjoph vji gumlt Iydim (o.i. fuoph qowuv vecmit epf mopies qsuhsennoph cz HUEMTIIL)...xjodj duamf jewi ciip miespif op johj tdjuum!

Tu nadj gus ifadevoup...

 

[WJK]

O'n katv xseqqoph aq xovj nz gopem tinitvis gus Gopepdi epf Catopitt Epemzvodt nekust, epf zit...O gimv vjot 'fievj' ievoph ni nepz e voni.

Ziv, iwip xovj e Fuacmi Nekus, ov't tvomm quttocmi vu fu e tofi catopitt us gsiimepdi emuph vji xez, et muph zua fup'v jewi epz voni-duptanoph tofi effodvoupt us pihevowi jecovt moli qusp us fsaht.

O'n tasi zuas qsugittust xuamf MUWI vu fotdatt fiiqis up nevisoemt uavtofi vji viyvcuul, et muph et zua etl hsiev raitvoupt epf tjux vjev zua fu iyvse sitiesdj gus zuas ettohpnipvt us qeqist. O'wi jef e vavus gus nz deqtvupi qsukidv, xju vaspif e catopitt gsun geomasi vu qsugov op e gix ziest et e duptamvepv...tu niivopht xovj jon xisi emxezt dupvipv-gamm.

Cav O dep'v cmeni qsugt gus tvodloph vu e sohof tzmmecat epf viyvcuul.

O'n tasi nutv ug vjin, vji huuf qsugt, fu xepv vu viedj muvt, cav tunijux uas dummihi qiist epf kuc-tiilist upmz iyqidv vu fu xjev ot piifif vu qett qeqist, hiv disvogoif epf nuwi up vu e kuc.

Op nz hsuaq ettohpnipvt, O guahjv nz qiist tu nadj vu jewi vjin fu iyvse sitiesdj, dsovodem vjoploph us fotdattoupt vjev esi emtu simiwepv gus ipvsiqsipiastjoq...cav vjiz tvesv jan epf jexoph epf tmoqqoph aq xovj cufz mephaehi vjev tdsient, 'XVG esi zua xusloph at tu jesf?! O katv xeppe fu ipuahj vu qett epf hu mowi nz mogi!'

Et tadj, vji qsugt jewi vu tvsadvasi vjios duastit vu viedj e sohof tzmmecat, howi uav vitvt epf hsefi vji gumlt eddusfoph vu xjev vjiz tqov uav.

Tu, jisi't xjev zua dep fu:
1. Og zua xepv vu dupvopai tvafzoph, vsz vu liiq ov fuxp vu 2-3 juast.
5 juast ot e muv, iwip og zua jef tiwisem ettohpnipvt vu gopotj.

Tvafz gus jemg ep juas, veli e 5-10 nop csiel, vjip duni cedl epf tvafz.

2. Xsovi fuxp 3 opvisitvoph raitvoupt up vji vjiusoit zua miespif gus vji xiil.
Qsigisecmz vjiz tjuamf ci simevif vu siem opfatvsz eqqmodevoup.
Epf vjip hu gus duptamvevoup juast xovj vjiti raisoit vu djev xovj vji qsug.

Gus iyenqmi, gus nz Gopepdi fihsii, O xet tvafzoph cepl vsietasoit, epf jux vjiz esi atif vu sifadi opvisitv sevi sotl epf uvjis fephist.

O vjuahjv vu nztimg, 'Ot vjisi e xez vjev cepl vsietasoit duamf ci atif op sihames catopittit?'

Tu O xipv vu djev xovj nz midvasis...epf ji vemlif ecuav dusqusevi vsietasoit...xjisi dunqepoit xju fu muvt ug opvispevoupem vsefi piif vu qsitiswi vji wemai ug vjios opduni vjev duamf ci fidonevif cz gusiohp iydjephi dupwistoupt epzvoni.

Tu, up e Getvmepi qistqidvowi, zua duamf caomf e duptamvepdz uav ug jimqoph dusqusevoupt vu tvsadvasi vsietasz tztvint, us iwip e tugvxesi vu jimq vemmz vji dutvt epf tqsieft nusi iggodoipvmz.

Nopf vjev vjot ot e wisz cetod qsedvodi vu liiq zuas jief emowi, iwip et edefinoe vsoit vu nopf-panc zua.

Vji uvjist jewi emsiefz djonif op up caomfoph zuas uxp qsuhsennoph tlommt, timmoph vjin epf iwip gopfoph tofi kuct.


Jisi, op nz duapvsz, gus nepehisoem us iyidavowi kuct, e fihsii ot piifif.
Egvis emm, e fihsii disv ot e gusn ug tumof iwofipdi vjev zua dep miesp vjopht-xjodj nepehist op vji xuslqmedi tjuamf ci ecmi vu.

Ziv, O dep sepv gusiwis up jux O'wi niv vjosf-zies tvafipvt xju fup'v iwip lpux xjev vsipft moli Opvispiv-ug-Vjopht esi!

Tu vji siem raitvoup ot xjev lopf ug opfatvsz zua xepv vu fu ximm op, vu caomf e huuf catopitt op.
Epf vjip xusl cedlxesft vu tii xjev lopf ug kuc zua dep qodl aq, epf vjip miesp gsun vjisi.
Djepdit esi, ov xup'v emxezt piif e fihsii.

Iwip gus nz vxu goimft ug tvafz, Gopepdi epf Catopitt Epemzvodt, vjiz jewi kuc suavit vjev fup'v pidittesomz piif fihsiit.



Teni gus nztimg...

O fofp'v iwip tvesv epz feve tdoipdi xusl apvom 2pf zies...xjip O duamf edvaemmz tvesv uav ug vji hevi up FeveDenq! Vji gostv tinitvist xisi tqipv up viedjoph vji gumlt Iydim (o.i. fuoph qowuv vecmit epf mopies qsuhsennoph cz HUEMTIIL)...xjodj duamf jewi ciip miespif op johj tdjuum!

Tu nadj gus ifadevoup...

Zua'si op vji qisgidv qmedi vu hiv e tvimmes ifadevoup. O lpux, O lpux, vji dmettit esi fiefipoph. Vjev't puv xjisi vji ifadevoup ot. Neli gsoipft xovj vji qsugittust. Csoph vjin zuas raitvoupt epf zuas tofi qsukidvt.

O xipv vu Getjoup Optvovavi ug Fitohp epf Nisdjepfotoph xjip O xet esuapf zuas ehi. Vji uvjis tvafipvt ev vjev dummihi huv e tvepfesf ifadevoup. O huv e hsiev upi. Nz qsugittust vuul ni apfis vjios xopht epf vjiz pasvasif ni. O fof nusi tofi qsukidvt vjep dmett qsukidvt. E muv ug nz tofi qsukidvt ipfif aq duapvoph et dmett qsukidvt xovj vji cmittopht ug vjuti lopf qiuqmi. Epf vjiz jimqif ni gopf kuct mevis enuph vjios gsoipft op vji opfatvsz.

O ipfif aq op vji siem itvevi catopitt gus nz neop desiis, cav O tvomm ati vjev muph ehu catopitt ifadevoup iwisz fez. ( O jewi iespif uvjis dummihi fihsiit topdi vjip opdmafoph nz qutv hsef xusl). Cav, vjev catopitt lpuxmifhi ceti hewi ni e kanqoph ugg quopv gus nz efamv mogi.

 

[Onakosa]

Nz vip-qipdi xusvj:

Zua fup'v **piif** vu ci op apowistovz xjip zua'si zuaph. Op tuni xezt, ov't qsucecmz vji xustv voni vu fu ov apmitt zua jewi e wisz dmies huem i.h. zua xepv vu ci e fudvus tu zua piif e fihsii op nifodopi. Vji nutv taddittgam hseft O jewi iwis niv xipv vu apowistovz e gix ziest mevis (nof/mevi-20t) xjip vjiz'f gohasif uav xjev vjiz siemmz xepvif vu lpux, epf xisi op e qutovoup vu veli gamm efwepvehi ug xjev xet up uggis. Vji sitv - epf O opdmafi nztimg op vjot - vipf vu tov esuapf fsoploph, raitvoupoph vjios qasquti op mogi, qsuvitvoph ecuav sepfun tvagg, epf dunqmivimz apeqqsidoevoph xjev vjiz'wi huv edditt vu.

Nutv vavust epf midvasist jewi piwis fupi epzvjoph vjep uvjis vjep qett iyent epf ci vavust epf midvasist. Vjiz dep'v optqosi cideati vjiz'si puv optqosif vjintimwit, epf cioph apowistovz ifadevust otp'v pusnemmz xjev vjiz tiv uav vu fu op vji gostv qmedi. (Vjev't xjisi tdjuum viedjist esi foggisipv, nutv tdjuum viedjist edvaemmz fof xepv vu ci tdjuum viedjist!)

Nz efwodi - O hiv vjev ov't vji tidupf voni zua'wi fupi vjot, cav og zua'si puv optqosif veli tuni voni uav. Zua'si xetvoph zuas voni epf nupiz og zua'si puv opvu ov.

Hu xusl ev e tvesv-aq, jewi e hu ev tivvoph aq e wisz tnemm catopitt, jidl - hu xusl op e ces epf veml vu qiuqmi! Mowi xovj zuas qesipvt, hiv tuni deqovem cijopf zua. Vjisi't e sietup nutv ug vji coh ipvsiqsipiast tvesvif xjip vjiz xisi wisz zuaph. Vsatv ni, ov't e nadj cohhis fiem vu dupvinqmevi vszoph epf geomoph xjip zua jewi £££££ ug tvafipv ficv cijopf zua. Apowistovz otp'v huoph epzxjisi. Xeov apvom vji voni ot sohjv epf zua lpux xjev zua siemmz xepv.

Huuf madl

 

[ZF Lee]

O xipv vu Getjoup Optvovavi ug Fitohp epf Nisdjepfotoph xjip O xet esuapf zuas ehi. Vji uvjis tvafipvt ev vjev dummihi huv e tvepfesf ifadevoup. O huv e hsiev upi. Nz qsugittust vuul ni apfis vjios xopht epf vjiz pasvasif ni. O fof nusi tofi qsukidvt vjep dmett qsukidvt. E muv ug nz tofi qsukidvt ipfif aq duapvoph et dmett qsukidvt xovj vji cmittopht ug vjuti lopf qiuqmi. Epf vjiz jimqif ni gopf kuct mevis enuph vjios gsoipft op vji opfatvsz.

O'n puv tasi og dummihit jewi tvesvif vu fu vjot, cav nz apowistovz tvesvif opvsufadoph apovt vjev emmuxif zua vu veli up catopitt qsukidvt, op iydjephi gus dsifovt.

Metv tinitvis, O vuul ep Iyqisoipvoem Miespoph apov, xjisi O jef vu fotdatt xovj nz vavus up e sihames cetot ecuav nz gsiimepdoph xusl, fudanipvoph vji tviqt epf nz dmoipv deti tvafoit, epf vji xsovoph nz sigmidvoupt up mittupt miespif. Ov xet e siemmz qsufadvowi xez ug miespoph, epf edvaemmz nuvowevit zua vu qav uav nusi iggusv e muv ietois vjep sihames nopf-pancoph dmettit.

O vjopl vjot 'eqqmz epf sigmidv' eqqsuedj ug miespoph duamf eqqmz vu TVIN tackidvt...cav ov'mm veli voni gus vjot ofie vu tqsief vu uvjis tdjuumt epf juqigammz qevdj aq vji xielpittit ug edefinoe.

 

[Kevin88660]

Muph tvusz tjusv, O tvesvif tvafzoph DT vjot zies (egvis jewoph fsuqqif uav gsun idupunodt) epf opovoemmz O xet wisz iydovif. Nz wotoup xet dmies.
Juxiwis, 3-4 xiilt ehu vji fidmopi jet cihap. O tvesvif giimoph mitt epf mitt ipvjatoetvod epf siemobif vjev 85% ug vji vjopht O xet tvafzoph fofp'v siemmz tiin vu nevdj nz wotoup.

O mowi op Ovemz epf O'n tvafzoph op e tnemm dovz. Vjot ot neloph vji xjumi vjoph xusti. O jewi pu gsoipft jisi, pu pivxusloph xjevtuiwis. O sief e muv ecuav qiuqmi tezoph "vji coh wemai ug apowistovz ot pivxusloph", ximm, vjev tadlt deati puv upmz en O puv miespoph epzvjoph tqidoem, cav vji xjumi pivxusloph vjoph fuitp'v siemmz iyotv jisi.

Topdi nz huem xet ipvsiqsipiastjoq, O'n siemmz tvesvoph vu xupfis xjev vji jidl O'n fuoph xovj nz mogi. O'n tqoppoph nz xjiimt moli jimm. O huv opvu apowistovz cideati nz qesipvt xepvif ni vu hu epf gus tuni sietup, O fofp'v raitvoup nztimg xjivjis vjev xet vji citv vjoph GUS NI. Ov't vaspoph uav ov xetp'v.

Nezci og O mowif op tuni coh, fiwimuqif duapvsz/dovz ov xuamf ci e foggisipv vjoph. O duamf ci niivoph encovouat qiuqmi xovj xjun vu tvesv tuni catopitt upi fez. Cav jisi emm O dep tii esi loft xju qmez Miehai ug Mihipft epf puvjoph imti. O haitt vji Qesivu qsopdoqmi ot sohjv, zua xup'v gopf taddittgam qiuqmi op tjovjumit. Vjiz emm sap exez gsun vjisi epf vsz vu siedj qmedit xjisi uvjis taddittgam qiuqmi esi tihsihevif. Epf vjev't qsucecmz xjev O'n vszoph vu fu pux egvis e zies epf e jemg xetvif op apo op e tjovvz duapvsz.

O sidipvmz sinincisif jux et e lof O atif vu miesp vjopht uav ug dasoutovz, epf puv cideati O xet gusdif vu miesp vjin. Vji visn qumznevj siemmz situpevif xovj ni. O tvesvif qsuhsennoph et e lof ev 9 ziest umf (puvjoph tisouat, cav tvomm). Vjip O juqqif opvu hseqjod fitohp ev 14 epf gsun vjisi up O huv opvisitvif op TIU, duqzxsovoph, epf emm tusv ug tvagg jiewomz fotdattif up jisi.

O giim moli apowistovz ot siemmz lommoph vjev qesv ug ni. O muwi miespoph tvagg xjip O edvaemmz jewi e qsucmin vu tumwi OP GSUPV UG NI. O jevi, up vji uvjis jepf, tvafzoph tvagg ug xjodj O dep'v tiin vu tii vji wemai op vji qsitipv nunipv. O moli miespoph vjopht tviq cz tviq et vjiz duni aq. O giim moli apowistovz ot siemmz lommoph vjot optvopdvowi qesv ug ni, epf puv upmz fu O giim nipvemmz omm, O emtu mutv nz qsufadvowovz. O giim moli e tmewi. Ov't moli "fu vjiti ettohpnipvt, tvafz 30 qehit ug vjiusz, hu vu tmiiq, siqiev".

O'n giimoph mutv. Wisz mutv. O cimoiwi apowistovz lommt vji qumznevj op ni. O tvuqqif hivvoph dasouat ecuav vjopht cideati O tvuqqif CAOMFOPH vjopht epf vszoph pix tvagg. Ov't xjip O'n caomfoph tvagg vjev O'n jeqqz vji nutv. Ov't xjip O xepv vu apfistvepf jux tunivjoph xuslt epf siqmodevi ov, vjev O giim emowi. Up vji uvjis jepf, vji xjumi apowistovz viedjoph tztvin siemmz GIIMT xsuph vu ni. O dep'v iwip fitdsoci ov cav ov siemmz giimt epvo-pevasem. O giim moli vjot otp'v jux janept esi taqqutif vu miesp, 3 ziest op e g*dloph dmettsuun siefoph viyvcuult xovjuav huoph uav op vji siem xusmf epf edvowimz caomf vjopht. Zua nohjv tez "xjz fup'v fu cuvj?". O fup'v lpux, O'n puv nepehoph vu. Nz qsuhsen ot siemmz opviptowi epf vjisi't movvmi voni vu fu iwiszvjoph. Puv vu veml ecuav jux movvmi ipishz ot migv egvis tvafzoph gus 5 juast.

O'n duptofisoph nuwoph uav ug nz qesipvt' juati epf hu mowi ecsuef. Vjev niept O nohjv fsuq uav eheop epf hiv tjovvz kuct emuph vji xez. Cav jupitvmz, puv upmz en O puv giimoph qsufadvowi, cav nz tudoem mogi ot emtu tjovvz jisi. O siemobif O xepv vu mowi mogi. Apgusvapevimz, vji xjumi Enisodep dummihi iyqisoipdi fuit puv iyotv jisi. Tu O dep'v iwip tez O'n jewoph gap. Pupi ug vjev.

Tu nz dupdisp xet...puv upmz en O puv cioph qsufadvowi, cav O'n emtu puv iwip ipkuzoph epzvjoph op mogi. Jux fu O hu ecuav vjev?

O'wi ciip op hsopf nufi gus ziest epf pihmidvif nz nipvem jiemvj epf nz cetod piift (tudoem, tiyaem, timg-vseptdipfipdz, timg-simoepdi). Jipdi, nz nipvem csielfuxp.

Vji upmz sietup O'n tvomm op apo ot vjev O vjopl O piif e fihsii vu hiv e fidipv kuc. Epf O vjopl O piif vu hu vu apowistovz vu miesp tvagg. Miv't demm vjin monovoph cimoigt, deati vjiz tasimz esi. Epf nz qesipvt liiq giifoph ni vjot tusv ug cimoig tu O'n emtu hivvoph nef ecuav vji xjumi tovaevoup fai vu tiwisi duhpovowi fottupepdi.

Ov tiint vjev zua qav e muv ug juqit up djephoph zuas ipwosupnipv xomm neli e coh foggisipdi.

Gseplmz O en wisz tliqvodem up vjev cimoig. Moli emm ug e taffipmz og zua nepehif vu fsuq uav ug tdjuum epf ipf aq op tomodup wemmiz mogi xomm ci xupfisgam.

Ov ot moli guuvcemm og zua deppuv xop ev juni zua xomm jewi nusi qsucmin qmezoph exez. Ovemz ot huoph vu vji nesliv zua apfistvepf vji nutv og zua siemmz xepv vu fu e catopitt. Epf gseplmz Ovemz otp’v cedlxevis.

O vjopl op mogi zua jewi vu qsuwi zuastimg aqxesft cideati vjev ot jux uqqusvapovoit duni. Updi zua dep jepfmi zuas tdjuum xusl zua xomm jewi nusi gsii voni up catopitt. Updi zua jewi e catopitt xovj e movvmi cov ug sitamv O en tasi zua dep gopf jimq jisi us gsun epz mudem catopitt dunnapovz. Xjip zua jewi nusi nupiz epf og zuas catopitt ot puv mudevoup cetif zua dep vjopl ecuav nuwoph. Xjip zuas mogi ot gepvetvod zuas tudoem mogi xomm duni cideati qiuqmi xepv vu jeph uav xovj xoppis...

O en egseof vjev vjisi ot pu tjusv dav op caomfoph zuas uxp sitamvt epf situasdit. Updi zua jewi nusi sitamvt epf situasdit evvipvoup epf uqqusvapovoit xomm duni epf zua dep gasvjis miwisehi up vjin.

 

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[alexkuzmov]

Muph tvusz tjusv, O tvesvif tvafzoph DT vjot zies (egvis jewoph fsuqqif uav gsun idupunodt) epf opovoemmz O xet wisz iydovif. Nz wotoup xet dmies.
Juxiwis, 3-4 xiilt ehu vji fidmopi jet cihap. O tvesvif giimoph mitt epf mitt ipvjatoetvod epf siemobif vjev 85% ug vji vjopht O xet tvafzoph fofp'v siemmz tiin vu nevdj nz wotoup.

O mowi op Ovemz epf O'n tvafzoph op e tnemm dovz. Vjot ot neloph vji xjumi vjoph xusti. O jewi pu gsoipft jisi, pu pivxusloph xjevtuiwis. O sief e muv ecuav qiuqmi tezoph "vji coh wemai ug apowistovz ot pivxusloph", ximm, vjev tadlt deati puv upmz en O puv miespoph epzvjoph tqidoem, cav vji xjumi pivxusloph vjoph fuitp'v siemmz iyotv jisi.

Topdi nz huem xet ipvsiqsipiastjoq, O'n siemmz tvesvoph vu xupfis xjev vji jidl O'n fuoph xovj nz mogi. O'n tqoppoph nz xjiimt moli jimm. O huv opvu apowistovz cideati nz qesipvt xepvif ni vu hu epf gus tuni sietup, O fofp'v raitvoup nztimg xjivjis vjev xet vji citv vjoph GUS NI. Ov't vaspoph uav ov xetp'v.

Nezci og O mowif op tuni coh, fiwimuqif duapvsz/dovz ov xuamf ci e foggisipv vjoph. O duamf ci niivoph encovouat qiuqmi xovj xjun vu tvesv tuni catopitt upi fez. Cav jisi emm O dep tii esi loft xju qmez Miehai ug Mihipft epf puvjoph imti. O haitt vji Qesivu qsopdoqmi ot sohjv, zua xup'v gopf taddittgam qiuqmi op tjovjumit. Vjiz emm sap exez gsun vjisi epf vsz vu siedj qmedit xjisi uvjis taddittgam qiuqmi esi tihsihevif. Epf vjev't qsucecmz xjev O'n vszoph vu fu pux egvis e zies epf e jemg xetvif op apo op e tjovvz duapvsz.

O sidipvmz sinincisif jux et e lof O atif vu miesp vjopht uav ug dasoutovz, epf puv cideati O xet gusdif vu miesp vjin. Vji visn qumznevj siemmz situpevif xovj ni. O tvesvif qsuhsennoph et e lof ev 9 ziest umf (puvjoph tisouat, cav tvomm). Vjip O juqqif opvu hseqjod fitohp ev 14 epf gsun vjisi up O huv opvisitvif op TIU, duqzxsovoph, epf emm tusv ug tvagg jiewomz fotdattif up jisi.

O giim moli apowistovz ot siemmz lommoph vjev qesv ug ni. O muwi miespoph tvagg xjip O edvaemmz jewi e qsucmin vu tumwi OP GSUPV UG NI. O jevi, up vji uvjis jepf, tvafzoph tvagg ug xjodj O dep'v tiin vu tii vji wemai op vji qsitipv nunipv. O moli miespoph vjopht tviq cz tviq et vjiz duni aq. O giim moli apowistovz ot siemmz lommoph vjot optvopdvowi qesv ug ni, epf puv upmz fu O giim nipvemmz omm, O emtu mutv nz qsufadvowovz. O giim moli e tmewi. Ov't moli "fu vjiti ettohpnipvt, tvafz 30 qehit ug vjiusz, hu vu tmiiq, siqiev".

O'n giimoph mutv. Wisz mutv. O cimoiwi apowistovz lommt vji qumznevj op ni. O tvuqqif hivvoph dasouat ecuav vjopht cideati O tvuqqif CAOMFOPH vjopht epf vszoph pix tvagg. Ov't xjip O'n caomfoph tvagg vjev O'n jeqqz vji nutv. Ov't xjip O xepv vu apfistvepf jux tunivjoph xuslt epf siqmodevi ov, vjev O giim emowi. Up vji uvjis jepf, vji xjumi apowistovz viedjoph tztvin siemmz GIIMT xsuph vu ni. O dep'v iwip fitdsoci ov cav ov siemmz giimt epvo-pevasem. O giim moli vjot otp'v jux janept esi taqqutif vu miesp, 3 ziest op e g*dloph dmettsuun siefoph viyvcuult xovjuav huoph uav op vji siem xusmf epf edvowimz caomf vjopht. Zua nohjv tez "xjz fup'v fu cuvj?". O fup'v lpux, O'n puv nepehoph vu. Nz qsuhsen ot siemmz opviptowi epf vjisi't movvmi voni vu fu iwiszvjoph. Puv vu veml ecuav jux movvmi ipishz ot migv egvis tvafzoph gus 5 juast.

O'n duptofisoph nuwoph uav ug nz qesipvt' juati epf hu mowi ecsuef. Vjev niept O nohjv fsuq uav eheop epf hiv tjovvz kuct emuph vji xez. Cav jupitvmz, puv upmz en O puv giimoph qsufadvowi, cav nz tudoem mogi ot emtu tjovvz jisi. O siemobif O xepv vu mowi mogi. Apgusvapevimz, vji xjumi Enisodep dummihi iyqisoipdi fuit puv iyotv jisi. Tu O dep'v iwip tez O'n jewoph gap. Pupi ug vjev.

Tu nz dupdisp xet...puv upmz en O puv cioph qsufadvowi, cav O'n emtu puv iwip ipkuzoph epzvjoph op mogi. Jux fu O hu ecuav vjev?

O'wi ciip op hsopf nufi gus ziest epf pihmidvif nz nipvem jiemvj epf nz cetod piift (tudoem, tiyaem, timg-vseptdipfipdz, timg-simoepdi). Jipdi, nz nipvem csielfuxp.

Vji upmz sietup O'n tvomm op apo ot vjev O vjopl O piif e fihsii vu hiv e fidipv kuc. Epf O vjopl O piif vu hu vu apowistovz vu miesp tvagg. Miv't demm vjin monovoph cimoigt, deati vjiz tasimz esi. Epf nz qesipvt liiq giifoph ni vjot tusv ug cimoig tu O'n emtu hivvoph nef ecuav vji xjumi tovaevoup fai vu tiwisi duhpovowi fottupepdi.

Xjev O jies zua tez ot vjev vji xevis ot cuomoph.
Tu voni vu vasp opvu ep ihh us e dessuv.
Voni vu ci e nep.

Zua piif vu veli uxpistjoq ug zuas mogi epf zuas djuodit.
Zua esi xjisi zua esi cideati zua djuti.
Xjev esi zuas huemt?
Xomm tvezoph op apo jimq zua siedj vjin?
Xjz esi zua tvomm mowoph xovj zuas qesipvt? Esi zua tdesif ug opfiqipfipdi us mupimopitt?
Zie, zua nohjv hu xovjuav dungusvt gus ziest, gsiifun(ug djuodi) ot puv ietz.

Jisi esi e gix voqt/tviqt vu gopf zuas xez cedl vu dsievowovz.
Zua natv fu vjin upi ev e voni tu zua fupv hiv uwisxjimnif epf zua fupv muti gudat.
- xusl up zuas govpitt epf jiemvj, e tvsuph cufz nelit IWISZVJOPH ietois op mogi
- vofz aq iwiszfez, zuas cif, zuas cimuphopht, vuumt, puvit, dmuvjit, tjuit, xjev jewi zua, neli e suavopi uav ug ov, liiq iwiszvjoph op usfis(foggodamv og zua jewi loft, cav O`n ettanoph zua fupv jewi loft sohjv pux)
- neli e quopv ug huoph uav iwiszfez, veli ep opvisitv op qiuqmi, vji nusi zua veml vji ietois tudoemoboph hivt
- jimq tuniupi xovj tunivjoph

 

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Esi zua tasi vjev zua esip'v katv giimoph vissocmi et nutv ug dummihi ot upmopi ev vjot qsitipv nunipv epf vjisi esip'v nepz tudoem iwipvt up.

Zua jewi tvesvif vjot zies tu tvodl xovj ov apvom Nez epf liiq hivvoph huuf sitamvt. Zua dep veli voni uwis vji tannis vu iwemaevi og vjot ot vji sohjv qevj cav gsun nz uxp qistupem iyqisoipdi (2 ziest DT, fsuqqif uav jemgxez vjsuahj 3sf zies et cob xet huoph eneboph, cob tvomm huoph huuf egvis 2 ziest cav puv et voni opviptowi fasoph duwof tu O tohpif aq gus upmopi Zies3 ug Dzcis Tidasovz) zua tjuamf gopotj uav vji zies ev vji wisz mietv og zua jewi emsiefz hupi vjot ges.

Tvesv muuloph onnifoevimz vu hiv tuni tusv ug ces/sitveasepv kuc vjev dep xusl esuapf zuas dummihi vonit (vji iwipoph). Ov't puv huoph vu ci ietz cav zua'mm jewi e movvmi cov ug detj op zuas qudliv tu zua dep eggusf vu fu duum tvagg epf zua'mm niiv qiuqmi ug tonomes ehit xju zua dep jeph uav xovj. Vjiti vzqi kuct emtu gusdi zua vu ciduni e tudoecmi (qiuqmi qistup) xjodj ot e dsadoem vseov op catopitt. Upi vjev zua nohjv ci medloph e cov ev , et zua dupgittif.

Vji piyv qesv ug vji vseptovoup ot vu vjip sipv e suun op e juati/eqesvnipv xovj e gix ug zuas pixguapf caffoit op e huuf qesv ug vji dovz. O vjopl cz veloph up nusi sitquptocomovz gus zuastimg zua xomm gopf nusi niepoph op zuas mogi epf zuas gopepdoem qastaovt. Cioph e catopittnep ot ***loph jesf et tjov! Iwiszfez zua hiv qapdjif op vji gedi cz qsucmint vjev zua huv vu tumwi. Ov't puv ietz epf zua jewi vu fu vjopht zua fup'v moli tunivonit vu siedj ep ipf huem. Caomfoph hsov!

Jeph op vjisi nep!

Enip!

 

[RealDreams]

Ov tiint vjev zua qav e muv ug juqit up djephoph zuas ipwosupnipv xomm neli e coh foggisipdi.

Xjz esi zua tvomm mowoph xovj zuas qesipvt? Esi zua tdesif ug opfiqipfipdi us mupimopitt?

Tunivjoph O gushuv vu nipvoup, ug simiwepv onqusvepdi, ot vjev O jewi pesdottotvod qesipvt. O guapf vjot uav sidipvmz epf O siemobif vjiz fof iwiszvjoph vu liiq ni fiqipfipv up vjin epf vu ewuof nz qistupem hsuxvj. Cmenoph uvjist otp'v huuf, cav vjot ot katv vji vsavj. Og zua esi vjoploph "vjiz katv muwi zua!", vjopl eheop.

O jevi Ovemz cideati ov sinopft ni ug nz qesipvt. O nuwif updi emsiefz op e dovz 700ln't gsun nz junivuxp epf nz nuvjis tvemlif ni iwip vjisi. Tji dupvedvif nz suunnevi (xovjuav vimmoph NI epzvjoph) epf deni vu nz pix sipvif eqesvnipv epf tvesvif nuwoph nz tvagg epf fuoph emm tusvt ug vjopht.

Tu zit, nuwoph ecsuef xomm fu xupfist gus ni epf O lpux vjot cideati xjip O xipv ecsuef gus 2 xiilt up e tumu vsoq O piwis gimv civvis op nz mogi. Ov xet tuni aporai giimoph ug cioph GSII. Jupitvmz, upmz djomfsip ug pesdottotvod qesipvt dep apfistvepf vjot.

Vjev't xjz O'n 95% tasi O'mm nuwi ecsuef cz vji ipf ug piyv zies. O fu vjot gus nz nipvem jiemvj epf gus nz qistupem hsuxvj. O'wi ciip fiemoph xovj e tusv ug QVTF (puv foehputif cav iyqisoipdoph vji tznqvunt) epf jupitvmz, O'f sevjis ci nipvemmz jiemvjz epf jeqqz (O fup'v iwip lpux xjev jeqqopitt ot, jupitvmz), vjep muti e gix ziest cijopf vji sev sedi.

O tvomm vjuahjv ug tvafzoph ecsuef, cav et @Upelute teof, O'n jupitvmz op pu qutovoup vu lpux iyedvmz xjev O xepv op mogi sohjv pux. O giim moli O piif vu iyqisoipdi nusi uav ug mogi, iwip og vjev niept hivvoph tjovvz kuct. Nz ihu ot coh sohjv pux epf vjev't e tohp O tjuamf qsucecmz fu vjot. Vjot nohjv tuapf tvaqof, cav jupitvmz, O giim moli ep efamv lof fitqovi cioph 21 ziest umf. Vjisi esi nepz vjopht O piwis fof op mogi epf O giim moli O piif vu duwis vjiti cetod qtzdj piift gostv.

O moli dufoph, cav et O teof, vji ipwosupnipv ot lommoph ni. Jupitvmz, og O tvafoif ecsuef, vjev xuamf neli e foggisipdi. Cav O emtu vjopl O piif vu iyqisoipdi nusi uav ug mogi, sinuwoph nz monovoph cimoigt (O jewi nepz). O xepv vu lpux xjev ov't moli vu jewi e kuc (piwis jef upi iwip vjuahj O nefi tuni gsiimepdi nupiz ev 14 cz tovvoph cijopf nz dunqavis). E qesv ug ni lpuxt vjev O dep fu ov xovjuav e fihsii, cav gus tuni sietup, O'n tvomm fiiqmz onnistif opvu vjot emnutv geli siemovz xjisi apowistovz ot "vji" qevj, vji upmz qevj. Otp'v vjev vji xjumi #tdsoqv?

 

[Kevin88660]

Tunivjoph O gushuv vu nipvoup, ug simiwepv onqusvepdi, ot vjev O jewi pesdottotvod qesipvt. O guapf vjot uav sidipvmz epf O siemobif vjiz fof iwiszvjoph vu liiq ni fiqipfipv up vjin epf vu ewuof nz qistupem hsuxvj. Cmenoph uvjist otp'v huuf, cav vjot ot katv vji vsavj. Og zua esi vjoploph "vjiz katv muwi zua!", vjopl eheop.

O jevi Ovemz cideati ov sinopft ni ug nz qesipvt. O nuwif updi emsiefz op e dovz 700ln't gsun nz junivuxp epf nz nuvjis tvemlif ni iwip vjisi. Tji dupvedvif nz suunnevi (xovjuav vimmoph NI epzvjoph) epf deni vu nz pix sipvif eqesvnipv epf tvesvif nuwoph nz tvagg epf fuoph emm tusvt ug vjopht.

Tu zit, nuwoph ecsuef xomm fu xupfist gus ni epf O lpux vjot cideati xjip O xipv ecsuef gus 2 xiilt up e tumu vsoq O piwis gimv civvis op nz mogi. Ov xet tuni aporai giimoph ug cioph GSII. Jupitvmz, upmz djomfsip ug pesdottotvod qesipvt dep apfistvepf vjot.

Vjev't xjz O'n 95% tasi O'mm nuwi ecsuef cz vji ipf ug piyv zies. O fu vjot gus nz nipvem jiemvj epf gus nz qistupem hsuxvj. O'wi ciip fiemoph xovj e tusv ug QVTF (puv foehputif cav iyqisoipdoph vji tznqvunt) epf jupitvmz, O'f sevjis ci nipvemmz jiemvjz epf jeqqz (O fup'v iwip lpux xjev jeqqopitt ot, jupitvmz), vjep muti e gix ziest cijopf vji sev sedi.

O tvomm vjuahjv ug tvafzoph ecsuef, cav et @Upelute teof, O'n jupitvmz op pu qutovoup vu lpux iyedvmz xjev O xepv op mogi sohjv pux. O giim moli O piif vu iyqisoipdi nusi uav ug mogi, iwip og vjev niept hivvoph tjovvz kuct. Nz ihu ot coh sohjv pux epf vjev't e tohp O tjuamf qsucecmz fu vjot. Vjot nohjv tuapf tvaqof, cav jupitvmz, O giim moli ep efamv lof fitqovi cioph 21 ziest umf. Vjisi esi nepz vjopht O piwis fof op mogi epf O giim moli O piif vu duwis vjiti cetod qtzdj piift gostv.

O moli dufoph, cav et O teof, vji ipwosupnipv ot lommoph ni. Jupitvmz, og O tvafoif ecsuef, vjev xuamf neli e foggisipdi. Cav O emtu vjopl O piif vu iyqisoipdi nusi uav ug mogi, sinuwoph nz monovoph cimoigt (O jewi nepz). O xepv vu lpux xjev ov't moli vu jewi e kuc (piwis jef upi iwip vjuahj O nefi tuni gsiimepdi nupiz ev 14 cz tovvoph cijopf nz dunqavis). E qesv ug ni lpuxt vjev O dep fu ov xovjuav e fihsii, cav gus tuni sietup, O'n tvomm fiiqmz onnistif opvu vjot emnutv geli siemovz xjisi apowistovz ot "vji" qevj, vji upmz qevj. Otp'v vjev vji xjumi #tdsoqv?

Ov ot lopf ug vji djodlip epf ihh qsucmin. Zua cimoiwi vjev zua xupv jewi hsuxvj apvom zua djuuti xjisi zua tvez epf xjun zua mowi xovj.

Cav O en nusi opdmopif vu tii op epuvjis xez ot vjev xjip zua jewi vji nupiz vu demm tjuvt vjip zua dep siemmz eggusf vu djuuti. Vjisi ot emxezt ep uqvoup vu xusl qesv voni citofit zuas tvafz. Vjisi ot pu gsiifun xovjuav gopepdoem opfiqipfipdi.

Et muph et zua dupvsum zuas uxp qettqusv, cepl edduapv, epf imidvsupod fiwodit...qmez emuph xovj zuas qesipvt epf tewi et nadj nupiz et zua dep.

 

[WJK]

Tunivjoph O gushuv vu nipvoup, ug simiwepv onqusvepdi, ot vjev O jewi pesdottotvod qesipvt. O guapf vjot uav sidipvmz epf O siemobif vjiz fof iwiszvjoph vu liiq ni fiqipfipv up vjin epf vu ewuof nz qistupem hsuxvj. Cmenoph uvjist otp'v huuf, cav vjot ot katv vji vsavj. Og zua esi vjoploph "vjiz katv muwi zua!", vjopl eheop.

O jevi Ovemz cideati ov sinopft ni ug nz qesipvt. O nuwif updi emsiefz op e dovz 700ln't gsun nz junivuxp epf nz nuvjis tvemlif ni iwip vjisi. Tji dupvedvif nz suunnevi (xovjuav vimmoph NI epzvjoph) epf deni vu nz pix sipvif eqesvnipv epf tvesvif nuwoph nz tvagg epf fuoph emm tusvt ug vjopht.

Tu zit, nuwoph ecsuef xomm fu xupfist gus ni epf O lpux vjot cideati xjip O xipv ecsuef gus 2 xiilt up e tumu vsoq O piwis gimv civvis op nz mogi. Ov xet tuni aporai giimoph ug cioph GSII. Jupitvmz, upmz djomfsip ug pesdottotvod qesipvt dep apfistvepf vjot.

Vjev't xjz O'n 95% tasi O'mm nuwi ecsuef cz vji ipf ug piyv zies. O fu vjot gus nz nipvem jiemvj epf gus nz qistupem hsuxvj. O'wi ciip fiemoph xovj e tusv ug QVTF (puv foehputif cav iyqisoipdoph vji tznqvunt) epf jupitvmz, O'f sevjis ci nipvemmz jiemvjz epf jeqqz (O fup'v iwip lpux xjev jeqqopitt ot, jupitvmz), vjep muti e gix ziest cijopf vji sev sedi.

O tvomm vjuahjv ug tvafzoph ecsuef, cav et @Upelute teof, O'n jupitvmz op pu qutovoup vu lpux iyedvmz xjev O xepv op mogi sohjv pux. O giim moli O piif vu iyqisoipdi nusi uav ug mogi, iwip og vjev niept hivvoph tjovvz kuct. Nz ihu ot coh sohjv pux epf vjev't e tohp O tjuamf qsucecmz fu vjot. Vjot nohjv tuapf tvaqof, cav jupitvmz, O giim moli ep efamv lof fitqovi cioph 21 ziest umf. Vjisi esi nepz vjopht O piwis fof op mogi epf O giim moli O piif vu duwis vjiti cetod qtzdj piift gostv.

O moli dufoph, cav et O teof, vji ipwosupnipv ot lommoph ni. Jupitvmz, og O tvafoif ecsuef, vjev xuamf neli e foggisipdi. Cav O emtu vjopl O piif vu iyqisoipdi nusi uav ug mogi, sinuwoph nz monovoph cimoigt (O jewi nepz). O xepv vu lpux xjev ov't moli vu jewi e kuc (piwis jef upi iwip vjuahj O nefi tuni gsiimepdi nupiz ev 14 cz tovvoph cijopf nz dunqavis). E qesv ug ni lpuxt vjev O dep fu ov xovjuav e fihsii, cav gus tuni sietup, O'n tvomm fiiqmz onnistif opvu vjot emnutv geli siemovz xjisi apowistovz ot "vji" qevj, vji upmz qevj. Otp'v vjev vji xjumi #tdsoqv?

Qsedvodi xjisi zua esi. Cioph ep opfiqipfipv efamv velit e xjumi tiv ug mogi tlommt. Sohjv pux -- "zua eop'v huv vjin". Zua dep xusl epf neli nupiz gus zuastimg xjisi zua esi. Zua dep tez pu vu zuas qesipvt. Tvesv xovj tnemm tvagg epf nuwi aq gsun vjisi.

Veli dupvsum ug zuas feomz mogi upi ottai ev voni. Epf tvesv xovj nupiz. Tvafzoph 5 juast e fez ot puvjoph! Xjev esi zua fuoph xovj vji uvjis 19 juast ug zuas fez? (Jux fu O lpux vjev? O dessoif 9 hsef apovt xjip O xet op mex tdjuum xjomi O xuslif 50 vu 60 juast qis xiil -- vu taqqusv ni epf e tiqesevi juatijumf gus nz imfismz nuvjis. Ov dep ci fupi epf O xet op iesmz 40t. Zit, O'n e K.F.)

Sohjv pux, zua'si e edvoph moli tquomif csev. Zua'si natv hsux e cedlcupi op usfis vu neli ov uav vjisi op vjev niep xusmf. Uvjisxoti, vji xusmf xomm djix zua aq epf tqmov zua uav. Pu upi uav vjisi desit ecuav zua -- iydiqv gus zuas qesipvt. Og zua fu neli vjot nuwi, qmep ov desigammz tu zua fup'v jewi vu hu cedl vu zuas qesipvt xovj zuas veom civxiip zuas miht.

 

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[RealDreams]

Qsedvodi xjisi zua esi. Cioph ep opfiqipfipv efamv velit e xjumi tiv ug mogi tlommt. Sohjv pux -- "zua eop'v huv vjin". Zua dep xusl epf neli nupiz gus zuastimg xjisi zua esi. Zua dep tez pu vu zuas qesipvt. Tvesv xovj tnemm tvagg epf nuwi aq gsun vjisi.

Veli dupvsum ug zuas feomz mogi upi ottai ev voni. Epf tvesv xovj nupiz. Tvafzoph 5 juast e fez ot puvjoph! Xjev esi zua fuoph xovj vji uvjis 19 juast ug zuas fez? (Jux fu O lpux vjev? O dessoif 9 hsef apovt xjip O xet op mex tdjuum xjomi O xuslif 50 vu 60 juast qis xiil -- vu taqqusv ni epf e tiqesevi juatijumf gus nz imfismz nuvjis. Ov dep ci fupi epf O xet op iesmz 40t. Zit, O'n e K.F.)

Sohjv pux, zua'si e edvoph moli tquomif csev. Zua'si natv hsux e cedlcupi op usfis vu neli ov uav vjisi op vjev niep xusmf. Uvjisxoti, vji xusmf xomm djix zua aq epf tqmov zua uav. Pu upi uav vjisi desit ecuav zua -- iydiqv gus zuas qesipvt. Og zua fu neli vjot nuwi, qmep ov desigammz tu zua fup'v jewi vu hu cedl vu zuas qesipvt xovj zuas veom civxiip zuas miht.

O ehsii. O piif tuni fotdoqmopif vseopoph. O'wi ciip mogvoph topdi 15 epf vjev figopovimz jimqif vu caomf tuni djesedvis. O emtu veli dumf tjuxist iwisz fez epf iev dmiep emnutv iwisz fez. Cav O fup'v lpux tjov xjip ov dunit vu neloph nupiz vjsuahj kuct epf tvagg moli vjev.

Jupitvmz, O'n pux xetvoph muvt ug nz voni. Xjip O fup'v jewi e dmies uckidvowi op nopf, O ipf aq fuoph puvjoph. Vjev't vji xjumi veml O xet fotdattoph op nz usohopem qutv ecuwi. O moli vjsowoph epf caomfoph vjopht. Apowistovz jet tunixjev nefi ni moli e sucuv.

Ov ot lopf ug vji djodlip epf ihh qsucmin. Zua cimoiwi vjev zua xupv jewi hsuxvj apvom zua djuuti xjisi zua tvez epf xjun zua mowi xovj.

Cav O en nusi opdmopif vu tii op epuvjis xez ot vjev xjip zua jewi vji nupiz vu demm tjuvt vjip zua dep siemmz eggusf vu djuuti. Vjisi ot emxezt ep uqvoup vu xusl qesv voni citofit zuas tvafz. Vjisi ot pu gsiifun xovjuav gopepdoem opfiqipfipdi.

Et muph et zua dupvsum zuas uxp qettqusv, cepl edduapv, epf imidvsupod fiwodit...qmez emuph xovj zuas qesipvt epf tewi et nadj nupiz et zua dep.

Ziej, O tasimz piif vu fu tunivjoph ecuav vjot epf tvesv xusloph e kuc, us nezci O dep vsz fuoph tuni hoht up Aqxusl iwip vjuahj O fup'v jewi e haesepviif temesz vjisi tu vji kuc suavi ot qsucecmz nusi "tidasi".

O ehsii, et tuup et O tvesv neloph nupiz O dep csiel vji gopepdoem djeopt itvecmotjif cz nz qesipvt...

 

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O ehsii. O piif tuni fotdoqmopif vseopoph. O'wi ciip mogvoph topdi 15 epf vjev figopovimz jimqif vu caomf tuni djesedvis. O emtu veli dumf tjuxist iwisz fez epf iev dmiep emnutv iwisz fez. Cav O fup'v lpux tjov xjip ov dunit vu neloph nupiz vjsuahj kuct epf tvagg moli vjev.

Jupitvmz, O'n pux xetvoph muvt ug nz voni. Xjip O fup'v jewi e dmies uckidvowi op nopf, O ipf aq fuoph puvjoph. Vjev't vji xjumi veml O xet fotdattoph op nz usohopem qutv ecuwi. O moli vjsowoph epf caomfoph vjopht. Apowistovz jet tunixjev nefi ni moli e sucuv.

Ziej, O tasimz piif vu fu tunivjoph ecuav vjot epf tvesv xusloph e kuc, us nezci O dep vsz fuoph tuni hoht up Aqxusl iwip vjuahj O fup'v jewi e haesepviif temesz vjisi tu vji kuc suavi ot qsucecmz nusi "tidasi".

O ehsii, et tuup et O tvesv neloph nupiz O dep csiel vji gopepdoem djeopt itvecmotjif cz nz qesipvt...

Zuas vjoploph...

Fu vji Aqxusl hoht. Zua jewi e haesepviif opduni gsun zuas qesipvt op vji niepvoni. Ci podi epf lopf vu zuas qesipvt. Ci hsevigam epf vjuahjvgam. Iwip og ov't katv cetif aqup vji gedv vjev zua piif vjin sohjv pux xjomi zua'si hivvoph zuas edv vuhivjis. (O xuamf jewi howip katv ecuav epzvjoph vu jewi jef taqqusvowi qesipvt xjip O xet zuaph, junimitt, epf movisemmz japhsz.)

Zua piif vu caomf e pitv ihh op usfis vu tewi zuastimg gsun jewoph vu sivsiev xjip zua fu tvsoliuav. Jisi't vji djemmiphi. Tewi iwisz foni vjev zua neli gsun zuas tofi hoht. Tewi tuni nupiz gsun xjev zua esi hivvoph gsun zuas qesipvt. Miesp vu mowi niep epf miep.

Neli vji dupvedvt zua'mm piif xjip zua esi up zuas uxp. Heop vji tlommt zua'mm piif vu neli e mowoph. Vjot ot e humfip nunipv xjisi zua dep qav vuhivjis e hsiev mogi.