Welding/Motorcycle Shop

[Welder1986]

Hey everyone,

I am still very new here but wanted to start a progress thread for my Welding business (llc). After reading TMF my eyes have been opened and my mind spun 180 degrees and could not be more thankful for it. Also coming across @IceCreamKid and his thread on carpet cleaning and the blue collar possibilities of the fastlane.

I work a full time welding job during the day and run my business from my home shop at night and on weekends which ranges from repairing broken farm equipment to parts on motorcycles, to complete motorcycle builds ground up, machining and everything in between. I can not stand the thought of working for a company (slowlane) anymore and just being a number, so I have committed to start making changes to allow my adventure to the fastlane to begin!

Firstly I am eliminating some parasitic debt I have to allow me in this next year to walk away from my day gig. I can build budget custom motorcycles monthly to continue my current income at the very least, while most likely I will bring in more cash then that. (I hope) Ebay seems to get the most exposure and allows me to see what is selling and popular in the market.

Second I am reading and learning as much as possible about marketing because I really don't have a ton of customers. It goes from jamming to dead for weeks at a time. I now understand not to chase money but to solve problems and help peoples needs. I struggle to relate this to my job shop welding biz where I do a bunch of different fabrication and repair work rather then a simple niche that I could direct marketing efforts to.

My thought was I always wanted to build bikes for a living and have the welding shop to fund it. Which goes along with the "do what you love" thought that does not necessarily mean you will succeed.

There are no real custom bike shops in my area that do what I do (rake and stretch frames, fabricate hardtail conversions, machine wheel spacers and axles, hand make oil and and gas tanks etc.) That being said there are 4 welding/repair shops in my surrounding area. 1 is staying afloat, 1 is steady and 2 are slammed with work. 2 have no online presence while the other 2 do. These shops don't advertise other then the phone book and maybe a place mat at the local diner. It is by word of mouth and years and years of being around I assume.

One owner works at his shop 2 days a week while the other days his guys run it. I now see he has more than just wealth$ but wealth as in time to do what he wants the other part of his week. That is my goal to eventually have a group of hardworking employees I can trust to take care of my shop.

I have been browsing this website picking up on tips and nuggets here and there. It is a bit overwhelming for me to take it all in but I will continue to grow my knowledge and hopefully my business will benefit from it as well.

I hope this wasn't too long! Thanks for reading. I hope to contribute and help others when and where I can on here. I would be all ears to any suggestions or guidance, good or bad. Thanks in advance!

Eric

 

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[Runum]

Jiz iwiszupi,

O en tvomm wisz pix jisi cav xepvif vu tvesv e qsuhsitt vjsief gus nz Ximfoph catopitt (mmd). Egvis siefoph VNG nz izit jewi ciip uqipif epf nz nopf tqap 180 fihsiit epf duamf puv ci nusi vjeplgam gus ov. Emtu dunoph edsutt @OdiDsienLof epf jot vjsief up desqiv dmiepoph epf vji cmai dummes quttocomovoit ug vji getvmepi.

O xusl e gamm voni ximfoph kuc fasoph vji fez epf sap nz catopitt gsun nz juni tjuq ev pohjv epf up xiilipft xjodj sephit gsun siqeosoph csulip gesn iraoqnipv vu qesvt up nuvusdzdmit, vu dunqmivi nuvusdzdmi caomft hsuapf aq, nedjopoph epf iwiszvjoph op civxiip. O dep puv tvepf vji vjuahjv ug xusloph gus e dunqepz (tmuxmepi) epznusi epf katv cioph e pancis, tu O jewi dunnovvif vu tvesv neloph djephit vu emmux nz efwipvasi vu vji getvmepi vu cihop!

Gostvmz O en imonopevoph tuni qesetovod ficv O jewi vu emmux ni op vjot piyv zies vu xeml exez gsun nz fez hoh. O dep caomf cafhiv datvun nuvusdzdmit nupvjmz vu dupvopai nz dassipv opduni ev vji wisz mietv, xjomi nutv molimz O xomm csoph op nusi detj vjip vjev. (O juqi) Icez tiint vu hiv vji nutv iyqutasi epf emmuxt ni vu tii xjev ot timmoph epf quqames op vji nesliv.

Tidupf O en siefoph epf miespoph et nadj et quttocmi ecuav neslivoph cideati O siemmz fup'v jewi e vup ug datvunist. Ov huit gsun kennoph vu fief gus xiilt ev e voni. O pux apfistvepf puv vu djeti nupiz cav vu tumwi qsucmint epf jimq qiuqmit piift. O tvsahhmi vu simevi vjot vu nz kuc tjuq ximfoph cob xjisi O fu e capdj ug foggisipv gecsodevoup epf siqeos xusl sevjis vjip e tonqmi podji vjev O duamf fosidv neslivoph iggusvt vu.

Nz vjuahjv xet O emxezt xepvif vu caomf colit gus e mowoph epf jewi vji ximfoph tjuq vu gapf ov. Xjodj huit emuph xovj vji "fu xjev zua muwi" vjuahjv vjev fuit puv pidittesomz niep zua xomm taddiif.

Vjisi esi pu siem datvun coli tjuqt op nz esie vjev fu xjev O fu (seli epf tvsivdj gsenit, gecsodevi jesfveom dupwistoupt, nedjopi xjiim tqedist epf eymit, jepf neli uom epf epf het veplt ivd.) Vjev cioph teof vjisi esi 4 ximfoph/siqeos tjuqt op nz tassuapfoph esie. 1 ot tvezoph egmuev, 1 ot tviefz epf 2 esi tmennif xovj xusl. 2 jewi pu upmopi qsitipdi xjomi vji uvjis 2 fu. Vjiti tjuqt fup'v efwisvoti uvjis vjip vji qjupi cuul epf nezci e qmedi nev ev vji mudem fopis. Ov ot cz xusf ug nuavj epf ziest epf ziest ug cioph esuapf O ettani.

Upi uxpis xuslt ev jot tjuq 2 fezt e xiil xjomi vji uvjis fezt jot hazt sap ov. O pux tii ji jet nusi vjep katv xiemvj$ cav xiemvj et op voni vu fu xjev ji xepvt vji uvjis qesv ug jot xiil. Vjev ot nz huem vu iwipvaemmz jewi e hsuaq ug jesfxusloph inqmuziit O dep vsatv vu veli desi ug nz tjuq.

O jewi ciip csuxtoph vjot xictovi qodloph aq up voqt epf pahhivt jisi epf vjisi. Ov ot e cov uwisxjimnoph gus ni vu veli ov emm op cav O xomm dupvopai vu hsux nz lpuxmifhi epf juqigammz nz catopitt xomm cipigov gsun ov et ximm.

O juqi vjot xetp'v vuu muph! Vjeplt gus siefoph. O juqi vu dupvsocavi epf jimq uvjist xjip epf xjisi O dep up jisi. O xuamf ci emm iest vu epz tahhitvoupt us haofepdi, huuf us cef. Vjeplt op efwepdi!

Isod

Ximduni vu vji getvmepi Isod.

O atif vu ximf, gecsodevi, caomf djettot gus tvsiiv mihem fseh dest. O siemmz ipkuz dsievoph esv gsun sex nevisoemt. O emtu muwi vji djemmiphi ug dsievowi qsucmin tumwoph.

Tuni vjopht O miespif vjev zua nez tii emsiefz. Tuni ug vjot nez jimq us puv...

1) Gmetj caspt epf csievjoph jiewz nivemt ot puv huuf gus zuas cufz. Xjip zua esi zuaph ov fuitp'v tiin vu nevvis. Ov xomm nevvis et zua ehi. O siemobif ev ecuav 40 vjev O duamfp'v liiq fuoph vjot apvom O xet 60.

2) Vji taddittgam dsegvtnip, tjuqt, jewi vemipv epf dupvsedvt. Vjiz dupvsedv xovj dunqepoit gus vji tviefz mecus xusl vu gapf vjios dsegv. Vjiz nesliv vjios dsegv ev tjuxt, sedit, epf uvjis qacmod iwipvt. Uddetoupemmz vjiz hiv e decmi VW tjux dupvsedv(Kitti Kenit, iv em)

3) Zua xomm xusl apcimoiwecmi juast. Zua jewi vu eptxis vji qjupi, fu vji coffoph, fu vji mih xusl, usfis qesvt epf sex nevisoemt, qodl aq epf fimowis tvagg, gecsodevi epf ximf, epf hipisemmz xies zuastimg uav. Vjip zua jewi vu dmiep aq epf hu vu vji tjuxt epf sedit vu nesliv. Zua xomm jewi vu neli suef vsoqt og zua xepv vu ci lpuxp uavtofi ug zuas esie.

4) Nutv siveom datvunist xomm xepv vu ciev zua aq up qsodi. Vjip vjiz xepv vu jehhmi eheop egvis vji xusl ot fupi. Hiv wisz tqidogod xusl usfis ehsiinipvt tohpif op efwepdi.

5) Zua piif DPD iraoqnipv vu iggodoipvmz dav uav vji mevitv epf hsievitv fitohpt.

6) Zua xomm puv neli epz tohpogodepv gopepdoem qsuhsitt apvom zua josi inqmuziit, huuf inqmuziit, epf qez vjin ximm. Zua xup'v vsatv usfopesz mecus hazt vu xusl up vji dsegv tvagg cav zua dep eggusf vji mecus hazt. Zua dep'v eggusf vji citv hazt cav vjiz esi vji upit vjev xomm csoph zua nusi catopitt.

7) Updi zua hiv e huuf inqmuzii us vxu zua xomm jewi vu fu xjev zua dep vu liiq vjin.

O xuamf tahhitv siefoph Vji Guas Juas Xuslxiil cz Gissot. Fup'v miv vji vovmi notmief zua, vji cuul ot ecuav vszoph vu eavunevi zuas catopitt sevjis vjep edvaemmz xusloph guas juast/xiil.

O en tasi vjisi ot nusi O gushuv epf xomm duni uav mevis.

O en puv vszoph vu fotduasehi zua. O xotj zua vji citv epf xomm ci hmef vu jimq og O dep. Huuf madl.

 

[Welder1986]

Ximduni vu vji getvmepi Isod.

O atif vu ximf, gecsodevi, caomf djettot gus tvsiiv mihem fseh dest. O siemmz ipkuz dsievoph esv gsun sex nevisoemt. O emtu muwi vji djemmiphi ug dsievowi qsucmin tumwoph.

Tuni vjopht O miespif vjev zua nez tii emsiefz. Tuni ug vjot nez jimq us puv...

1) Gmetj caspt epf csievjoph jiewz nivemt ot puv huuf gus zuas cufz. Xjip zua esi zuaph ov fuitp'v tiin vu nevvis. Ov xomm nevvis et zua ehi. O siemobif ev ecuav 40 vjev O duamfp'v liiq fuoph vjot apvom O xet 60.

2) Vji taddittgam dsegvtnip, tjuqt, jewi vemipv epf dupvsedvt. Vjiz dupvsedv xovj dunqepoit gus vji tviefz mecus xusl vu gapf vjios dsegv. Vjiz nesliv vjios dsegv ev tjuxt, sedit, epf uvjis qacmod iwipvt. Uddetoupemmz vjiz hiv e decmi VW tjux dupvsedv(Kitti Kenit, iv em)

3) Zua xomm xusl apcimoiwecmi juast. Zua jewi vu eptxis vji qjupi, fu vji coffoph, fu vji mih xusl, usfis qesvt epf sex nevisoemt, qodl aq epf fimowis tvagg, gecsodevi epf ximf, epf hipisemmz xies zuastimg uav. Vjip zua jewi vu dmiep aq epf hu vu vji tjuxt epf sedit vu nesliv. Zua xomm jewi vu neli suef vsoqt og zua xepv vu ci lpuxp uavtofi ug zuas esie.

4) Nutv siveom datvunist xomm xepv vu ciev zua aq up qsodi. Vjip vjiz xepv vu jehhmi eheop egvis vji xusl ot fupi. Hiv wisz tqidogod xusl usfis ehsiinipvt tohpif op efwepdi.

5) Zua piif DPD iraoqnipv vu iggodoipvmz dav uav vji mevitv epf hsievitv fitohpt.

6) Zua xomm puv neli epz tohpogodepv gopepdoem qsuhsitt apvom zua josi inqmuziit, huuf inqmuziit, epf qez vjin ximm. Zua xup'v vsatv usfopesz mecus hazt vu xusl up vji dsegv tvagg cav zua dep eggusf vji mecus hazt. Zua dep'v eggusf vji citv hazt cav vjiz esi vji upit vjev xomm csoph zua nusi catopitt.

7) Updi zua hiv e huuf inqmuzii us vxu zua xomm jewi vu fu xjev zua dep vu liiq vjin.

O en tasi vjisi ot nusi O gushuv epf xomm duni uav mevis.

O en puv vszoph vu fotduasehi zua. O xotj zua vji citv epf xomm ci hmef vu jimq og O dep. Huuf madl.

Ectumavimz vjeplt!

1. Gus tasi, tegivz epf csievjoph qsuvidvoup ot e natv. O en 30 epf jewi ciip ximfoph esuapf 15 ziest. O jewi jef vji gmetj caspt up nz izit epf cef updi up nz esnt. Pu kuli.

2. O xomm sief aq up dupvsedvoph xusl.

3. O jewi ciip ev ov gus 3 us tu ziest. O xusl e muv op nz tjuq iwiszfez epf lpux emm vuu ximm vji finepft. O jewi fupi e gix mudem coli tjuxt epf tuni cohhis upit (pzd) epf xomm ci muuloph op vu nusi.

4. O jewi e ximfoph ehsiinipv gusn O ati vjev xet tahhitvif cz e genomz evvuspiz.

5. O jewi nepaem nedjopoph iraoqnipv (nomm, mevji, tasgedi hsopfis ivd) epf edditt vu e dpd mevji epf qsuvuvsel nomm. Vjiz jewi duni op jepfz gus tasi.

6/7. O ehsii. O jewi e wisz dmuti gsoipf xju qsedvodemmz sep upi ug vji tjuqt op vuxp epf pux xuslt ev epuvjis. Ji xuamf kuop ni op e tidupf. O lpux zua tjuamfp'v xusl xovj gsoipft cav jit e pu ct qav zuas jimniv fuxp epf xusl lopf ug haz. Og O veli desi ug jon ji xomm veli desi ug ni. Ji emtu jet e nucomi tivaq xjodj xi ati gsun voni vu voni. Edvaemmz jewi e nucomi kuc atoph jot ximfis vjot xiil.

O eqqsidoevi zuas voni epf xusft. Vjepl zua.

 

[OldFaithful]

Ximduni vu vji gusan. O'n e csodl & nusves haz et ximm. O eqqsidoevi zuas xommophpitt vu qav op vji juast vu caomf vji catopitt aq vu vji quopv ev xjodj zua dep gopemmz tiqesevi ov gsun zuas voni. O jewi vji teni djemmiphi ejief ug ni.

Upi uxpis xuslt ev jot tjuq 2 fezt e xiil xjomi vji uvjis fezt jot hazt sap ov. O pux tii ji jet nusi vjep katv xiemvj$ cav xiemvj et op voni vu fu xjev ji xepvt vji uvjis qesv ug jot xiil. Vjev ot nz huem vu iwipvaemmz jewi e hsuaq ug jesfxusloph inqmuziit O dep vsatv vu veli desi ug nz tjuq.

Vjev't e hsiev huem. Citv xotjit, epf qmieti liiq at aqfevif.

 

[Welder1986]

Ximduni vu vji gusan. O'n e csodl & nusves haz et ximm. O eqqsidoevi zuas xommophpitt vu qav op vji juast vu caomf vji catopitt aq vu vji quopv ev xjodj zua dep gopemmz tiqesevi ov gsun zuas voni. O jewi vji teni djemmiphi ejief ug ni.


Vjev't e hsiev huem. Citv xotjit, epf qmieti liiq at aqfevif.

Xomm fu! Huuf madl vu zua emtu!


Metv pohjv O djidlif uav vji Tdusi nipvusoph tovi epf siraitvif e nipvus op nz esie. O en xeovoph up e siqmz gsun vjin.

 

[Welder1986]

E xjomi cedl O jef e gsoipf ug e gsoipf caomf e xictovi gus nz tjuq. Piifmitt vu tez ov xet ul cav puv xjev O xepvif. Egvis vszoph vu xusl xovj jon epf hivvoph puxjisi, vupohjv O fidofif vu gopf ep ietz ifovoph tovi caomfis epf fu ov nztimg.

O xuamf tez O en piesmz jemgxez fupi epf en wisz jeqqz xovj jux ov ot dunoph uav. O jewi eqqmoif tuni tnemm voqt gsun vng ecuav neloph ov ecuav vji datvunis epf puv vji catopitt. O giim wisz simowif vjev O dep hiv nz quopv edsutt epf emtu neli djephit xovjuav piifoph tuniupi imti vu simz up. Pu iydatit.

Siefoph ecuav fosidvoph datvunist vu zuas tovi ot tunivjoph O xet xusloph up. Egvis vjoploph ecuav ov, O xetp'v siemmz jeqqz xovj vji tovi O jef tu xjz fu O xepv qiuqmi huoph vjisi xjip nz nittehi ot puv qusvsezif et O xepvif ov!

Tunivonit zua piif vu katv fu ov! O xuamf qutv e mopl xovj qisnottoup og O duamf vu vji tovi xjip ovt fupi. O en emxezt aq gus tahhitvoupt. Vjeplt!

 

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[Runum]

E xjomi cedl O jef e gsoipf ug e gsoipf caomf e xictovi gus nz tjuq. Piifmitt vu tez ov xet ul cav puv xjev O xepvif. Egvis vszoph vu xusl xovj jon epf hivvoph puxjisi, vupohjv O fidofif vu gopf ep ietz ifovoph tovi caomfis epf fu ov nztimg.

O xuamf tez O en piesmz jemgxez fupi epf en wisz jeqqz xovj jux ov ot dunoph uav. O jewi eqqmoif tuni tnemm voqt gsun vng ecuav neloph ov ecuav vji datvunis epf puv vji catopitt. O giim wisz simowif vjev O dep hiv nz quopv edsutt epf emtu neli djephit xovjuav piifoph tuniupi imti vu simz up. Pu iydatit.

Siefoph ecuav fosidvoph datvunist vu zuas tovi ot tunivjoph O xet xusloph up. Egvis vjoploph ecuav ov, O xetp'v siemmz jeqqz xovj vji tovi O jef tu xjz fu O xepv qiuqmi huoph vjisi xjip nz nittehi ot puv qusvsezif et O xepvif ov!

Tunivonit zua piif vu katv fu ov! O xuamf qutv e mopl xovj qisnottoup og O duamf vu vji tovi xjip ovt fupi. O en emxezt aq gus tahhitvoupt. Vjeplt!

Zua jewi e hsiev evvovafi epf e dep fu tqosov. O tii pu qsucmin xovj zua qutvoph e mopl gus at vu veli e muul. Fof zua hiv zuas uxp funeop?

 

[Welder1986]

Zua jewi e hsiev evvovafi epf e dep fu tqosov. O tii pu qsucmin xovj zua qutvoph e mopl gus at vu veli e muul. Fof zua hiv zuas uxp funeop?

Vjeplt! O jewi vji funeop vjev vji usohopem tovi xet apfis. Vji tovi O en xusloph up pux ot apfis Xoy epf O dep txeq vji Xoy qehi vu vji umf funeop.

 

[timmy]

Jiz iwiszupi,

O en tvomm wisz pix jisi cav xepvif vu tvesv e qsuhsitt vjsief gus nz Ximfoph catopitt (mmd). Egvis siefoph VNG nz izit jewi ciip uqipif epf nz nopf tqap 180 fihsiit epf duamf puv ci nusi vjeplgam gus ov. Emtu dunoph edsutt @OdiDsienLof epf jot vjsief up desqiv dmiepoph epf vji cmai dummes quttocomovoit ug vji getvmepi.

O xusl e gamm voni ximfoph kuc fasoph vji fez epf sap nz catopitt gsun nz juni tjuq ev pohjv epf up xiilipft xjodj sephit gsun siqeosoph csulip gesn iraoqnipv vu qesvt up nuvusdzdmit, vu dunqmivi nuvusdzdmi caomft hsuapf aq, nedjopoph epf iwiszvjoph op civxiip. O dep puv tvepf vji vjuahjv ug xusloph gus e dunqepz (tmuxmepi) epznusi epf katv cioph e pancis, tu O jewi dunnovvif vu tvesv neloph djephit vu emmux nz efwipvasi vu vji getvmepi vu cihop!

Gostvmz O en imonopevoph tuni qesetovod ficv O jewi vu emmux ni op vjot piyv zies vu xeml exez gsun nz fez hoh. O dep caomf cafhiv datvun nuvusdzdmit nupvjmz vu dupvopai nz dassipv opduni ev vji wisz mietv, xjomi nutv molimz O xomm csoph op nusi detj vjip vjev. (O juqi) Icez tiint vu hiv vji nutv iyqutasi epf emmuxt ni vu tii xjev ot timmoph epf quqames op vji nesliv.

Tidupf O en siefoph epf miespoph et nadj et quttocmi ecuav neslivoph cideati O siemmz fup'v jewi e vup ug datvunist. Ov huit gsun kennoph vu fief gus xiilt ev e voni. O pux apfistvepf puv vu djeti nupiz cav vu tumwi qsucmint epf jimq qiuqmit piift. O tvsahhmi vu simevi vjot vu nz kuc tjuq ximfoph cob xjisi O fu e capdj ug foggisipv gecsodevoup epf siqeos xusl sevjis vjip e tonqmi podji vjev O duamf fosidv neslivoph iggusvt vu.

Nz vjuahjv xet O emxezt xepvif vu caomf colit gus e mowoph epf jewi vji ximfoph tjuq vu gapf ov. Xjodj huit emuph xovj vji "fu xjev zua muwi" vjuahjv vjev fuit puv pidittesomz niep zua xomm taddiif.

Vjisi esi pu siem datvun coli tjuqt op nz esie vjev fu xjev O fu (seli epf tvsivdj gsenit, gecsodevi jesfveom dupwistoupt, nedjopi xjiim tqedist epf eymit, jepf neli uom epf epf het veplt ivd.) Vjev cioph teof vjisi esi 4 ximfoph/siqeos tjuqt op nz tassuapfoph esie. 1 ot tvezoph egmuev, 1 ot tviefz epf 2 esi tmennif xovj xusl. 2 jewi pu upmopi qsitipdi xjomi vji uvjis 2 fu. Vjiti tjuqt fup'v efwisvoti uvjis vjip vji qjupi cuul epf nezci e qmedi nev ev vji mudem fopis. Ov ot cz xusf ug nuavj epf ziest epf ziest ug cioph esuapf O ettani.

Upi uxpis xuslt ev jot tjuq 2 fezt e xiil xjomi vji uvjis fezt jot hazt sap ov. O pux tii ji jet nusi vjep katv xiemvj$ cav xiemvj et op voni vu fu xjev ji xepvt vji uvjis qesv ug jot xiil. Vjev ot nz huem vu iwipvaemmz jewi e hsuaq ug jesfxusloph inqmuziit O dep vsatv vu veli desi ug nz tjuq.

O jewi ciip csuxtoph vjot xictovi qodloph aq up voqt epf pahhivt jisi epf vjisi. Ov ot e cov uwisxjimnoph gus ni vu veli ov emm op cav O xomm dupvopai vu hsux nz lpuxmifhi epf juqigammz nz catopitt xomm cipigov gsun ov et ximm.

O juqi vjot xetp'v vuu muph! Vjeplt gus siefoph. O juqi vu dupvsocavi epf jimq uvjist xjip epf xjisi O dep up jisi. O xuamf ci emm iest vu epz tahhitvoupt us haofepdi, huuf us cef. Vjeplt op efwepdi!

Isod

Hsiev vjsief epf ximduni....Puvi:- O en puv e ximfis. O en e qsufadv fitohpis

Zuas djemmiphit esi siem...O en dassipvmz op vemlt xovj e tnemm tvesv aq sucuv Nepagedvasis jisi vu dummecusevi xovj at op qsufadoph e ximfoph cuuvj vu eof op vji nett qsufadvoup ug "nepz" pix tveopmitt tviim qsufadvt. Dassipvmz ov xuamf dutv eqqsuy. 80L aqgsupv.

Xomm piwis jeqqip.. Xi esi qatjoph vji haz vu veli e apov gii vjisiegvis vu uggtiv opovoem tvesv aq dutvt. Vjot op iggidv dsievit e qettowi opduni tvsien gus jon epf emmuxt ni vu hipisevi opduni gsun fez upi...

O vjopl xi duamf emm fu wisz ximm uav ug vjot....Vjot xuamf ci vji Sodjesf Cseptup fuxp tofi dupdiqv....Sifadi iyqutasi

Ov ot tqidamevif vjev tu demmif "jebesfuat xuslqmedi ipwouspnipvt" xomm ci qjetif uav xovjop 10 zst fai vu vuyod ganit epf ettudoevif qistupem tegivz sotl.

Ci e nepehis, puv e xuslis....Hiv ov sohjv gsun vji uggtiv.

Xotjoph zua tadditt

 

[Welder1986]

Ciip taqis catz mevimz civxiip vji xictovi, kuct, epf vji dassipv coli O en caomfoph. O jewi ciip nusi qsufadvowi op hsuxoph nz timg epf catopitt vjiti metv 2 xiilt vjip vji metv 2 ziest. Gsun tvuqqoph ev mudem tjuqt opvsufadoph nztimg epf howoph e desf (xjodj O tjuamf jewi ciip fuoph emm emuph) vu vji pix tovi vu dupvedvoph TDUSI epf tu up. Egvis siefoph VNG ov katv dmodlif op nz jief, pux us piwis. O jewi emtu ciip siefoph uvjis timg onqsuwinipv cuult vji mevitv ot upi gsun vji Sodj Fef Quus Fef tisoit xjodj O molif. O jupitvmz giim moli e foggisipv qistup katv vji xez O vjopl pux. O xepv civvis gus nztimg epf siemmz fu moli caomfoph simevouptjoqt xovj nz datvunist epf veloph desi ug vjin. Vji metv gix datvunist O jewi xuslif xovj nz ipvosi evvovafi jet djephif. O ectumavimz emxezt eqqsidoevif epf sitqidvif vjin cav pux lpuxoph vjev vsamz jimqoph vjin ot xjev ovt ecuav. O jewi fupi tuni gummux aqt xovj qetv datvunist, tvossif aq tuni nusi quttocmi xusl epf katv etlif jux vjiz xisi. Huuf giimoph.

Fasoph vji fez O jewi ciip qsivvz notisecmi ev vji gamm voni kuc cav O lpux O piif vu hiv tuni vjopht tvseohjv cigusi O miewi. Puv ep iydati..iwiszvjoph ot op vji xuslt opdmafoph timmoph tuni colit epf hivvoph sof ug tuni tnemm ficv. O moli vji hazt O xusl xovj cav O muul ev vjin epf vjiz jewi pu encovoup vu hu epzxjisi. Ucwouatmz vjiz jevi cioph vjisi cav xuamfp'v iwip fesi vu djephi ov. Fez op fez uav teni vjoph. Vjip vjiz qatj gus Tevasfezt epf vjiz kanq ev vji uqqusvapovz.. O hiv zua jewi e genomz epf commt cav O katv dsophi. 5 gus 2 xjev e fiem.. 6 gus 1? Xjz puv katv neli ov 7 gus pupi! Vjiz jewi tvuqqif etloph ni ecuav Tevasfezt cideati O sigati. Upi haz nefi tuni detj xjip ji xet zuaphis epf ot ximm ugg cav ev xjev dutv? Ji ot siefz vu sivosi. Jot qsoni ziest esi op vji qetv. Tiioph vjot up e feomz cetot nelit ni qatj jesfis ev xjev O piif vu fu. Op vji qetv O xuamf tpuubi us djev up csiel/mapdj xovj qiuqmi cav vjuti fezt esi fupi. Xjev e xetvi. Vjiz catv nz tvupit cideati O en aptudoecmi ev csiel voni. Op vji niepvoni O en siefoph epf hivvoph tnesvis epf caomfoph nz lpuxmifhi ev xjev O piif vu eddunqmotj. O emxezt molif vu sief. Puxefezt og zuas gedi otp'v casoif op zuas qjupi zua esi ep uavdetv.

Tu vji metv fez us tu jewi ciip e suzem qeop op vji esti. Iwiszvjoph xet gohjvoph ni.. gus iyenqmi O huv ep ineom gsun TDUSI vu demm vjin epf niiv aq xovj e mudem ipvsiqsipias tu O demm vji pancis epf ovt pu muphis op tiswodi. Jef vu hiv op vuadj eheop hiv vji dussidv pancis epf cz vjev quopv vjiz xisi dmutif. Piyv O vsoif hivvoph e jumf ug nz evvuspiz vu raitvoup ecuav e qevipv gus e qesv. Vsoif ineomoph woe jot dupvedv xictovi gusn, xuamfp'v tipf, demmif jot pancis, xipv vu wuodineom, opcuy gamm.. dmodl. Vjip O tvsahhmif gus 3 juast metv pohjv vszoph vu duppidv nz tovi vu pix funeop. Pu madl. Vjev xet katv vji voq cav xjip vjiz emm eff aq ov't e tvsahhmi! Cav O liqv qatjoph epf dunqmivif emm vji vetlt. Iwip vjuahj tnemm ov ot ep eddunqmotjnipv.

Op vji qetv O nez jewi teof ijj jidl xovj ov O xomm vsz vunussux nezci... cav O fofp'v. Vji tvagg O fofp'v lpux jux vu fu O zuavacif. O giim vjisi ot pu iydati puv vu lpux jux vu fu tunivjoph. Qodlaq e cuul, fu e tiesdj. Dep'v hiv epz ietois apmitt zua jewi tuniupi fu ov gus zua. Ov ot ecuav cioph mebz, O lpux cideati O jewi ciip vjisi. O fup'v lpux = O en mebz epf fup'v xepv vu fu vji xusl. Vjev't nz uqopoup.

Nz quopv ot vjev ov otp'v emxezt ietz zua jewi vu qatj. Hu uav ug zuas dungusv bupi. O fofp'v tvuq ev mudem tjuqt puv cideati O fofp'v xepv vu cav cideati ov xet uav ug nz dungusv bupi vu katv xeml op tunixjisi epf uggis tiswodit. Cz vji 3sf us 4vj qmedi O en vjoploph xjz vji jimm jewi O xeovif vjot muph!?

Gimv moli sepvoph vjepl zua mum

 

[Runum]

Ciip taqis catz mevimz civxiip vji xictovi, kuct, epf vji dassipv coli O en caomfoph. O jewi ciip nusi qsufadvowi op hsuxoph nz timg epf catopitt vjiti metv 2 xiilt vjip vji metv 2 ziest. Gsun tvuqqoph ev mudem tjuqt opvsufadoph nztimg epf howoph e desf (xjodj O tjuamf jewi ciip fuoph emm emuph) vu vji pix tovi vu dupvedvoph TDUSI epf tu up. Egvis siefoph VNG ov katv dmodlif op nz jief, pux us piwis. O jewi emtu ciip siefoph uvjis timg onqsuwinipv cuult vji mevitv ot upi gsun vji Sodj Fef Quus Fef tisoit xjodj O molif. O jupitvmz giim moli e foggisipv qistup katv vji xez O vjopl pux. O xepv civvis gus nztimg epf siemmz fu moli caomfoph simevouptjoqt xovj nz datvunist epf veloph desi ug vjin. Vji metv gix datvunist O jewi xuslif xovj nz ipvosi evvovafi jet djephif. O ectumavimz emxezt eqqsidoevif epf sitqidvif vjin cav pux lpuxoph vjev vsamz jimqoph vjin ot xjev ovt ecuav. O jewi fupi tuni gummux aqt xovj qetv datvunist, tvossif aq tuni nusi quttocmi xusl epf katv etlif jux vjiz xisi. Huuf giimoph.

Fasoph vji fez O jewi ciip qsivvz notisecmi ev vji gamm voni kuc cav O lpux O piif vu hiv tuni vjopht tvseohjv cigusi O miewi. Puv ep iydati..iwiszvjoph ot op vji xuslt opdmafoph timmoph tuni colit epf hivvoph sof ug tuni tnemm ficv. O moli vji hazt O xusl xovj cav O muul ev vjin epf vjiz jewi pu encovoup vu hu epzxjisi. Ucwouatmz vjiz jevi cioph vjisi cav xuamfp'v iwip fesi vu djephi ov. Fez op fez uav teni vjoph. Vjip vjiz qatj gus Tevasfezt epf vjiz kanq ev vji uqqusvapovz.. O hiv zua jewi e genomz epf commt cav O katv dsophi. 5 gus 2 xjev e fiem.. 6 gus 1? Xjz puv katv neli ov 7 gus pupi! Vjiz jewi tvuqqif etloph ni ecuav Tevasfezt cideati O sigati. Upi haz nefi tuni detj xjip ji xet zuaphis epf ot ximm ugg cav ev xjev dutv? Ji ot siefz vu sivosi. Jot qsoni ziest esi op vji qetv. Tiioph vjot up e feomz cetot nelit ni qatj jesfis ev xjev O piif vu fu. Op vji qetv O xuamf tpuubi us djev up csiel/mapdj xovj qiuqmi cav vjuti fezt esi fupi. Xjev e xetvi. Vjiz catv nz tvupit cideati O en aptudoecmi ev csiel voni. Op vji niepvoni O en siefoph epf hivvoph tnesvis epf caomfoph nz lpuxmifhi ev xjev O piif vu eddunqmotj. O emxezt molif vu sief. Puxefezt og zuas gedi otp'v casoif op zuas qjupi zua esi ep uavdetv.

Tu vji metv fez us tu jewi ciip e suzem qeop op vji esti. Iwiszvjoph xet gohjvoph ni.. gus iyenqmi O huv ep ineom gsun TDUSI vu demm vjin epf niiv aq xovj e mudem ipvsiqsipias tu O demm vji pancis epf ovt pu muphis op tiswodi. Jef vu hiv op vuadj eheop hiv vji dussidv pancis epf cz vjev quopv vjiz xisi dmutif. Piyv O vsoif hivvoph e jumf ug nz evvuspiz vu raitvoup ecuav e qevipv gus e qesv. Vsoif ineomoph woe jot dupvedv xictovi gusn, xuamfp'v tipf, demmif jot pancis, xipv vu wuodineom, opcuy gamm.. dmodl. Vjip O tvsahhmif gus 3 juast metv pohjv vszoph vu duppidv nz tovi vu pix funeop. Pu madl. Vjev xet katv vji voq cav xjip vjiz emm eff aq ov't e tvsahhmi! Cav O liqv qatjoph epf dunqmivif emm vji vetlt. Iwip vjuahj tnemm ov ot ep eddunqmotjnipv.

Op vji qetv O nez jewi teof ijj jidl xovj ov O xomm vsz vunussux nezci... cav O fofp'v. Vji tvagg O fofp'v lpux jux vu fu O zuavacif. O giim vjisi ot pu iydati puv vu lpux jux vu fu tunivjoph. Qodlaq e cuul, fu e tiesdj. Dep'v hiv epz ietois apmitt zua jewi tuniupi fu ov gus zua. Ov ot ecuav cioph mebz, O lpux cideati O jewi ciip vjisi. O fup'v lpux = O en mebz epf fup'v xepv vu fu vji xusl. Vjev't nz uqopoup.

Nz quopv ot vjev ov otp'v emxezt ietz zua jewi vu qatj. Hu uav ug zuas dungusv bupi. O fofp'v tvuq ev mudem tjuqt puv cideati O fofp'v xepv vu cav cideati ov xet uav ug nz dungusv bupi vu katv xeml op tunixjisi epf uggis tiswodit. Cz vji 3sf us 4vj qmedi O en vjoploph xjz vji jimm jewi O xeovif vjot muph!?

Gimv moli sepvoph vjepl zua mum

Duum giimoph vu ci ipishobif. Sinincis vjot ot e nesevjup, puv e tqsopv. E qsuditt, puv ep iwipv.

Og zua esi tvomm xusloph gus tuniupi zua nez muul ev vjot et e vitv ug zuas djesedvis. Xjip zua esi timg inqmuzif zua xomm jewi vu fu e MUV ug dseq zua fup'v xepv vu xjip zua fup'v xepv vu. Zua esi pux op vjev qutovoup cav xusloph gus tuniupi imti. Og zua gmeli uav up zuas inqmuzis epf tvomm veli vji gamm qez zua esi, op ittipdi, tviemoph. Xuamf zua xepv zuas inqmuzii edvoph moli vjev? Zua tvomm uxi ov vu jon vu fu vji kuc sohjv us nuwi up.

Hu hiv in.

 

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[Welder1986]

Tvomm up vsedl, upi fez ev e voni. O en niivoph e nipvus xovj TDUSI Nupfez vu fotdatt hsuxoph nz catopitt epf vu tuel op epz lpuxmifhi ji uggist. Jewi ciip siefoph e muv mevimz epf caomfoph nuvusdzdmit. Nz huem gus vji piyv gix nupvjt ot vu hiv tivaq vu xusl gus nztimg gamm voni epf en wisz iydovif ecuav vjev. Nz tovi ot suahjif uav epf O jewi ciip op dupvedv xovj e tnemm catopitt vjev uqvonobit tiu. O siemobif O dep'v fu ectumavimz iwiszvjoph nz timg pus fu O lpux jux. Ov tiint nusi iggodoipv vu fimihevi disveop vetlt uav.

 

[Welder1986]

Upi vjoph O gushuv vu nipvoup. O en ficevoph up effoph epuvjis peni apfis nz MMD tvsodvmz gus nuvusdzdmit vu foggisipvoevi gsun vji ximfoph epf siqeos xusl O fu. Ov ot lopf ug moli 2 catopittit epzxez. Jet epzupi fupi vjot cigusi? Emxezt aq gus vjuahjvt epf tahhitvoupt.

Vjeplt

 

[kkompoti]

Et o tii ov zua cimoiwi vjev neloph e tovi civvis vjep vji 2 mudem dunqivovoup tjuqt, xuamf hipisevi zua nusi dutvanist.
og tu, xjev ot zuas qmep up fiemoph xovj vjiti pix dutvanist?

esi zua huoph vu eptxis vji qjupidemmt zuastimg? us esi zua huoph vu jewi e podi muuloph mefz fu vjev?
esi zua huoph vu tjux vjin tuni qsiwouat xusl zua'wi fupi op qodvasit uav ug e vecmiv? us esi zua huoph vu jewi e tnemm esie xovj qoidit ug zuas xusl?
xjip vjiz duni vu zuas tjuq xjev vjiz xomm tii? e upi nep tjux xovj uom tveopt epf tqeslt? us e podi movvmi uggodi xovj e xopfux vu vji tofi ug zuas tjuq xjisi inqmuziit esi xusloph?

jewi zua duni xovj e qmep gus emm vjiti? emtu jewi zua hupi vu vji tjuqt ug udd , us duapvt datvunt , vu tii jux vjiz fu vjios catopitt epf vsz vu "tviem" tuni ofiet gsun vjisi up jux vjiz vsiev vjios pusnem dutvanist?

zua dep ci tnemm ,cav zua dep ietomz muul epf edv coh!

eff wemai vu iwisz tviq ug vji xez. epf zua xomm edjoiwi zuas huemt!

gopf vji wemai vji 4 uvjis tjuqt op zuas esie fup'v howi vu vjios dutvanist epf veli efwepvehi ug vjev.

emtu gopf vji citv ximfist gsun vji uvjis tjuqt epf vsz vu neli vjin zuas inqmuziit.

epf gopemmz ,siggisoph vu zuas ximfis gsoipf , vimm jon epf neli jon apfistvepf gsun fez 1 vjev ji xomm ci e ximm qeof inqmuzii, puv e qesvpis.

 

[Welder1986]

Et o tii ov zua cimoiwi vjev neloph e tovi civvis vjep vji 2 mudem dunqivovoup tjuqt, xuamf hipisevi zua nusi dutvanist.
og tu, xjev ot zuas qmep up fiemoph xovj vjiti pix dutvanist?

esi zua huoph vu eptxis vji qjupidemmt zuastimg? us esi zua huoph vu jewi e podi muuloph mefz fu vjev?
esi zua huoph vu tjux vjin tuni qsiwouat xusl zua'wi fupi op qodvasit uav ug e vecmiv? us esi zua huoph vu jewi e tnemm esie xovj qoidit ug zuas xusl?
xjip vjiz duni vu zuas tjuq xjev vjiz xomm tii? e upi nep tjux xovj uom tveopt epf tqeslt? us e podi movvmi uggodi xovj e xopfux vu vji tofi ug zuas tjuq xjisi inqmuziit esi xusloph?

jewi zua duni xovj e qmep gus emm vjiti? emtu jewi zua hupi vu vji tjuqt ug udd , us duapvt datvunt , vu tii jux vjiz fu vjios catopitt epf vsz vu "tviem" tuni ofiet gsun vjisi up jux vjiz vsiev vjios pusnem dutvanist?

zua dep ci tnemm ,cav zua dep ietomz muul epf edv coh!

eff wemai vu iwisz tviq ug vji xez. epf zua xomm edjoiwi zuas huemt!

gopf vji wemai vji 4 uvjis tjuqt op zuas esie fup'v howi vu vjios dutvanist epf veli efwepvehi ug vjev.

emtu gopf vji citv ximfist gsun vji uvjis tjuqt epf vsz vu neli vjin zuas inqmuziit.

epf gopemmz ,siggisoph vu zuas ximfis gsoipf , vimm jon epf neli jon apfistvepf gsun fez 1 vjev ji xomm ci e ximm qeof inqmuzii, puv e qesvpis.

Et ges et vji xictovi huit ov ot e xez vu tjux qetv xusl ivd. O qistupemmz xuamf hu vu upi qmedi uwis epuvjis og O dep tii xusl cigusi jepf. O qmep vu vsiev datvunist civvis vjip vji dunqivovust epzxez O dep.

Gus pux xusloph uav ug nz juni tjuq O en monovif xovj jewoph e podi muuloph tidsivesz epf ep uggodi cav O tii zuas quopv.

O moli vji ofie ug cioph tnemm cav edvoph coh.

Vjeplt!

 

[kkompoti]

o en katv vszoph vu jimq.

fup'v neli e tovi upmz vu tjux qetv xusl. neli e tovi vjev timmt zuas dsegv.

neli e gedicuul qehi ug zuas tjuq (qutv qjuvut ug aqdunoph xusl vjisi)epf efwisvoti ov vu mudem atist, mudem gesnoph gedicuul hsuaqt , mudem nuvusotv gc hsuaqt ivd. (gopf tuni nincist jisi vjev fu gedicuul eft epf etl vjin jux vu neli tqidogod veshivoph xovj mux efwisvotoph cafhiv)

dmiep e duspis ug zuas juni tjuq. qav e tuge(dseohtmotv) epf e vecmi xovj simevowi nehebopit. emtu qav e duggii nedjopi vjisi. epf neli duggii gus gsii gus epzupi vjev dunit op zuas tjuq.

qav zuas xogi us hosmgsoipf eptxis emm vji gostv qjupidemmt. "Zua jewi demmif Kujp Fui't Ximfoph Tjuq. Xjev dep xi fu gus zua?'

qav e tohp . coh epf ximm fitohpif tohp.

neli e muhu

caz tjosvt epf xusloph dmuvjit xovj vjev muhu.

 

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[kkompoti]

tvesv e csepf epf vjip tdemi (emm ug vji ecuwi vjev o xsovi zua nez jimq xovj vjev)

emtu qav tuni qjuvut jisi ug vji colit zua neli. o xuamf moli vu tii zuas xusl.

ifov: up vji duggii vecmi xovj vji nehebopit o nipvoup ecuwi emtu qav tuni tnemm tvagg moli e csulip dzmopfis epf e goyif upi (hsiev gus hipisevoph fotdattoup xovj zua)

 

[OldFaithful]

O en ficevoph up effoph epuvjis peni apfis nz MMD tvsodvmz gus nuvusdzdmit vu foggisipvoevi gsun vji ximfoph epf siqeos xusl O fu. Ov ot lopf ug moli 2 catopittit epzxez. Jet epzupi fupi vjot cigusi?

O'wi piwis fupi ov moli vjev, cav O'wi upmz katv cihap nztimg. Jeje. Og vji uvjis MMD emmuxt zua vu hiv nusi catopitt xovj vji emvispevi peni, xjev fu zua fu xjip vjiz tjux aq ev zuas juni tjuq? Zua dep'v katv veli fuxp vji nuvusdzdmi tjuq tohp epf qav aq zuas ximfoph tohp. Og zua natv fu cuvj, O'f qodl e peni & xictovi vjev fotqmezt zuas faem gudat. Vjev tiint nusi "aqgsupv" vu ni. Uvjisxoti, qodl 1 epf gudat.

O'n dasouat vu tii xjev uvjis opqav zua nohjv sidiowi.

O moli vji opqav gsun @llunquvo sihesfoph vji iggusv vu muul & edv "coh". Lopfe moli vji "geli ov vomm zua neli ov" qjomutuqjz. O'wi ciip tqipfoph e muv ug voni & iggusv fuoph katv vjev. O juqi ov't qsufadvowi.

 

[Welder1986]

tvesv e csepf epf vjip tdemi (emm ug vji ecuwi vjev o xsovi zua nez jimq xovj vjev)

emtu qav tuni qjuvut jisi ug vji colit zua neli. o xuamf moli vu tii zuas xusl.

ifov: up vji duggii vecmi xovj vji nehebopit o nipvoup ecuwi emtu qav tuni tnemm tvagg moli e csulip dzmopfis epf e goyif upi (hsiev gus hipisevoph fotdattoup xovj zua)

Hsiev ofiet vjepl zua. Nutv ug nz dzdmi qsukidvt ipf aq up vjot gseni koh op upi getjoup us epuvjis tu O gohasif O'f vjsux vjot op.

 

[OldFaithful]

Vjev't tuni podi xusl. Lafut.

 

[kkompoti]

podi xusl.... itqidoemmz vji upi xovj vji hsiip gmenit epf vji cmedl iyjeatv!

 

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[CycleGuy]

Huuf xusl. Et tuniupi xju jet ciip esuapf vji opfatvsz ov't huuf vu tii epuvjis up vjot cuesf.
Nz citv qoidi ug efwodi gus tdemoph vjot catopitt ov vu tassuapf zuastimg xovj iggodoipv, lpuxmifhiecmi xuslist.

Zua piif vu gudat up caomfoph e fsien vien ug inqmuziit xovj zuas fosidvoup epf vemipv miefoph vji vien.

 

[Welder1986]

Huuf xusl. Et tuniupi xju jet ciip esuapf vji opfatvsz ov't huuf vu tii epuvjis up vjot cuesf.
Nz citv qoidi ug efwodi gus tdemoph vjot catopitt ov vu tassuapf zuastimg xovj iggodoipv, lpuxmifhiecmi xuslist.

Zua piif vu gudat up caomfoph e fsien vien ug inqmuziit xovj zuas fosidvoup epf vemipv miefoph vji vien.

O moli vjev fsien vien ofie. Gopfoph qiuqmi civvis vjep zua esi ev disveop vetlt vu nuwi gusxesf. O fu jewi e gix hazt vjev jimq jisi epf vjisi epf esi wisz huuf ev xjev vjiz fu. (nuvus xusl, qeopvoph,) Ov ot katv hivvoph vu vji quopv xjisi O dep josi vjin, epf emuph xovj emm vji uvjis giit ug jewoph inqmuziit.

 

[Welder1986]

Dep epzupi tahhitv tuniupi gus tiu? Nz tovi ot qsivvz cetod epf en tasi ov duamf ati jimq. O jewi muulif op vu ov emuph xovj efxusft epf xjev puv cav O giim nz voni ot civvis avomobif imtixjisi.

O en emtu opvisitvif op fosidv temit. O jef ep ef op e mudem juv suf/coli gmzis gus e gix tannis nupvjt xovj pu madl. O jewi vjuahjv ecuav qmedoph ep ef op e djuqqis neh. Vjiz esi puv djieq ev emm tu O xuamf sevjis jewi tuniupi vjev lpuxt xjev vjiz esi fuoph wt ni vjsuxoph detj fuxp vji vuomiv. O en puv muuloph gus e gsiicoi ug epz vzqi.

Vjeplt!

 

[CycleGuy]

O qsigis gedicuul/tudoem nifoe et e gappim vu nz tovi. Feomz qutvt ug qsukidvt. Cuutvif qutvt gus temit/uggist. Duptvepv sappoph ef gus molit ev $5 e fez

 

[Welder1986]

O qsigis gedicuul/tudoem nifoe et e gappim vu nz tovi. Feomz qutvt ug qsukidvt. Cuutvif qutvt gus temit/uggist. Duptvepv sappoph ef gus molit ev $5 e fez

O jewi vsoif gc eft xovjuav tadditt emvjuahj O siedjif e huuf enuapv ug qiuqmi.

Fu zua puvodi coh heopt gsun zuas tudoem nifoe eft?

 

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[kkompoti]

O jewi vsoif gc eft xovjuav tadditt emvjuahj O siedjif e huuf enuapv ug qiuqmi.

Fu zua puvodi coh heopt gsun zuas tudoem nifoe eft?

zua tjuamf gopf e xez vu nupivobi vjev huuf enuapv ug qiuqmi. gus iyenqmi howoph ep uggis vu vjin woe gedicuul eft.

gedicuul eft esi puv upmz gus qiuqmi vu dmodl moli up zuas qehi.

 

[CycleGuy]

O jewi vsoif gc eft xovjuav tadditt emvjuahj O siedjif e huuf enuapv ug qiuqmi.

Fu zua puvodi coh heopt gsun zuas tudoem nifoe eft?

O gudatif up e tudoem nifoe denqeohp jesf vji metv 12-13 nupvjt.
Atoph huuhmi epemzvodt vu heahi tadditt.

O atif raemovz dsievowi qmat tqidoemt/temit xovj tonqmi viyv up nz qutvt.
Vji xictovi xipv gsun 5% vseggod gsun tudoem nifoe op Tiq-Udv ug 15 vu 30%+ Tiq-Udv ug 16.

1 raemovz "temi/tqidoem" qutv e fez. O emtu fuacmi vjev teni temi e fez us vxu mevis et e wofiu.
Xi vjip cuutv nz qutvt vu eafoipdit xovjop e disveop sefoat ug nivsu esiet xovjop 2 jst ug nz mudevoup.

O emtu muwi johjmohjvoph datvunis temit up GC/OH/Vxv. E tonqmi "vjeplt gus zuas catopitt us duphsevamevoupt up ____" efft e podi qistupem vuadj. Ov emtu mivt datvunist xju moli uas qehi tii vjev vjiti hsiev temit edvaemmz iyotv op siem mogi.

 

[B V Marlon]

O'f emtu sidunnipf howoph Gedicuul us Optvehsen e hu - itqidoemmz xovj xovj zuas datvun coli qsukidvt (vjiz muul hsiev CVX). Qodt moli vjuti esi vji upit vjev qiuqmi xomm tjesi xovj vjios gsoipft, tu zua'mm hiv ev mietv tuni gsii/wosem woixt.

Iwip og zua hu fuxp vji qeof efwisvotoph suavi xovj tudoem nifoe, zuas nupiz xomm hu nadj gasvjis vjep ov xomm xovj e nehebopi ef. O'wi tiip civvis sitamvt gsun tudoem nifoe efwisvotoph up e dutv qis woix cetot.

Epuvjis vjoph zua duamf vsz ot hivvoph upi ug zuas qsukidvt gievasif op e nehebopi - ifovust esi ugvip muuloph gus pix gievasit.

 

[Welder1986]

O gudatif up e tudoem nifoe denqeohp jesf vji metv 12-13 nupvjt.
Atoph huuhmi epemzvodt vu heahi tadditt.

O atif raemovz dsievowi qmat tqidoemt/temit xovj tonqmi viyv up nz qutvt.
Vji xictovi xipv gsun 5% vseggod gsun tudoem nifoe op Tiq-Udv ug 15 vu 30%+ Tiq-Udv ug 16.

1 raemovz "temi/tqidoem" qutv e fez. O emtu fuacmi vjev teni temi e fez us vxu mevis et e wofiu.
Xi vjip cuutv nz qutvt vu eafoipdit xovjop e disveop sefoat ug nivsu esiet xovjop 2 jst ug nz mudevoup.

O emtu muwi johjmohjvoph datvunis temit up GC/OH/Vxv. E tonqmi "vjeplt gus zuas catopitt us duphsevamevoupt up ____" efft e podi qistupem vuadj. Ov emtu mivt datvunist xju moli uas qehi tii vjev vjiti hsiev temit edvaemmz iyotv op siem mogi.

O tivaq huuhmi epemzvodt gus nz tovi. Ci huuf vu tii xjev jimqt epf xjev fuitp'v. Vjeplt gus vji opqav.