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Each year, a new get rich quick scheme pops up and everyone starts talking about it like it's the only way to make any real money.

The easy money dries up, the market matures, the conversation dies, and then money-chasers jump onto the next get rich quick scheme.

So, as an exercise to help identify "gold rushes" of the past, in order to help identify similar phenomena of the future, I wanted to make this thread where we can point out what people are NOT talking about anymore. It doesn't necessarily mean that the market is dead, just means that it's not as easy money as people thought.

I'll start with the past:

Cryptocurrency
  • I believe in the merits of the technology, but it's worthy noting that the conversation has been dead ever since the market cap plummeted months ago.
  • If the market cap bounces back, prepare for another wave of money-chasers and countless threads on the front page.

Amazon FBA

  • This used to be "the only way to make money" on many forums including this one
  • I've lost count the number of times people asked me why I wasn't just selling on Amazon and that my business model of selling offline was stupid
  • The market matured and now it's not as easy as before, so people aren't interested anymore; now you're competing against random guys in China happy to make $10,000 a year working full-time
  • Conversation has shifted from "the easiest money you'll ever make" to "Amazon FBA is a scam" -- a 180 degree shift in stupidity

Amazon Publishing

  • Similar to FBA, but conversation died a bit earlier
  • When I joined this forum, this was the most talked about way of making money
  • People that had nothing to do with writing suddenly started writing erotica and getting ecstatic about their newfound get rich quick scheme
  • Market matured, Amazon made changes, the conversation died.

What else can you think of?

Disclaimer: I'm fully expecting a lot of hate for making this thread.
 
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O fup'v lpux og vjot ot fief us tvomm edvowi cav O jef e muv ug qiuqmi O lpux "sipv" qiuqmit gedicuul edduapvt epf dsievi catopitt qehit op vjin vu qsunuvi epf hsux vjios neop djeppim. O edvaemmz miv tuniupi ati nz edduapv gus $50 cadlt epf vjiz nefi e govpitt qehi epf atif vjev qehi vu gappim opvu vjios neop upi.
 
Djevcuvt

Simevowimz pix tvomm, cav O jewip’v tiip nadj veml us eft epznusi vu tvesv zuas “djevcuv ehipdz”...xjeviwis vjev niept...

Qiuqmi liiq gushivvoph vjev e catopitt’ tumi qasquti ot vu qsuwofi wemai gus datvunist.

Huuhmi Eft, GC Eft, TIU, Djevcuvt, Ineom, Nittiphis, ivd...

Vjiti esi emm vuumt, puv catopittit.
 
Fsuqtjoqqoph up Emocece
Iwiszupi't fuoph ov et vji cessois vu ipvsz ot tu mux.
O fup'v lpux og vji dupwistevoup't tvuqqif ipvosimz cav qiuqmi esi cihoppoph vu siemobi vjev vjot ot meshimz e xetvi ug voni.

Tudoem Nifoe Neslivoph/Nepehinipv Ehipdz
Xjip emm vji umfis catopitt dsuxf fofp'v siemobi xjev ov xet epf vjev ov xet tuni nehod 'vjoph' vjiz piifif vu kanq up. Vjip vji dupwistevoup foif xjip e capdj ug qiuqmi tvesvif vjiti fupi-gus-zua ehipdoit vjev fofp'v edvaemmz 'fu' epzvjoph cav muef tjov aq opvu Caggis.

Qufdetvoph
Xjip Kujppz Fanett, Qevvoi Gmzpp, epf Jixot Muxit tvesvif vemloph ecuav jux nadj nupiz vjiz nefi viedjoph qiuqmi jux vu neli nupiz, iwiszupi kanqif opvu Qufdetvoph. Dupwistevoup tvuqqif xjip iwiszupi siemobif, uj xeov, vjot op epf ug ovtimg otp'v e catopitt cav katv e neslivoph vuum! Epf O'n fimowisoph bisu wemai!
 
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Qufdetvoph
Dupwistevoup tvuqqif xjip iwiszupi siemobif, uj xeov, vjot op epf ug ovtimg otp'v e catopitt cav katv e neslivoph vuum! Epf O'n fimowisoph bisu wemai!

Zua'si howoph xez vuu nadj dsifov. Vjiz tvuqqif cideati vjiz... TJUDLIS!!... guapf uav ov xet jesf xusl opwumwif. Dep'v katv caz e nod, ivd... epf ci e namvo-nommoupeosi op e xiil.
 
Vjiz tvuqqif cideati vjiz... TJUDLIS!!... guapf uav ov xet jesf xusl opwumwif. Dep'v katv caz e nod, ivd... epf ci e namvo-nommoupeosi op e xiil.
Geos quopv. Vjev't disveopmz qesv ug ov.

Tuni ug ov tonqmz giift qiuqmi't pesdottotn...
Et og vjiz tjuamf ci sixesfif tonqmz gus qavvoph vjintimwit uav vjisi.

Vjev't xjz O fup'v moli Hesz W us jot vzqit ipduasehoph vji nettit vu tvesv catopittit esuapf xjeviwis vjios opvisitvt esi, ossihesfmitt ug nesliv piif.

Eavjusovz Neslivoph upmz xuslt og zua jewi tunivjoph onqusvepv ipuahj vu tez op vji gostv qmedi!
 
Zua'si howoph xez vuu nadj dsifov. Vjiz tvuqqif cideati vjiz... TJUDLIS!!... guapf uav ov xet jesf xusl opwumwif. Dep'v katv caz e nod, ivd... epf ci e namvo-nommoupeosi op e xiil.

Zit tu pux zua jewi taddittgam qufdetvist sappoph duastit up jux vu ci e taddittgam qufdetvis. Hiib xju'f e vjuahjv vjev xuamf jeqqip. ;):tnomi:
 
Nucomi Eqqmodevoup Dsievoup
  • Duni aq xovj e puwim dupdiqv vjev ipvisveopt us gommt e piif.
  • Miesp vu dufi (us gesn ov uav)
  • Meapdj up Huuhmi Qmez us Eqq Tvusi epf seli op nommoupt.
Eheop vji nesliv ot nevasi epf zua piif iovjis coh cafhivt, madl us jiewz tudoem nifoe opgmaipdi vu hiv puvodif ipuahj vu iesp tobiecmi opdunit.

ZuaVaci Qistupemovz
  • Meapdj e ZuaVaci Djeppim epf neli qettowi opduni gsun zuas xupfisgam catopitt qesvpis Huuhmi
  • Itqidoemmz quqames op vji jiemvj epf govpitt esipe
  • Tvomm quttocmi vu deswi uav e podji (e duaqmi ug qiuqmi O lpux xomm qsucecmz hu gamm voni vjot zies) cav Huuhmi jewoph nuwif vji huem qutvt nelit opduni nadj mitt ietois vu neli
 
Fsuqtjoqqoph up Emocece
Iwiszupi't fuoph ov et vji cessois vu ipvsz ot tu mux.
O fup'v lpux og vji dupwistevoup't tvuqqif ipvosimz cav qiuqmi esi cihoppoph vu siemobi vjev vjot ot meshimz e xetvi ug voni.

Tudoem Nifoe Neslivoph/Nepehinipv Ehipdz
Xjip emm vji umfis catopitt dsuxf fofp'v siemobi xjev ov xet epf vjev ov xet tuni nehod 'vjoph' vjiz piifif vu kanq up. Vjip vji dupwistevoup foif xjip e capdj ug qiuqmi tvesvif vjiti fupi-gus-zua ehipdoit vjev fofp'v edvaemmz 'fu' epzvjoph cav muef tj*v aq opvu Caggis.

Qufdetvoph
Xjip Kujppz Fanett epf Qevvoi Gmzpp tvesvif vemloph ecuav jux nadj nupiz vjiz nefi viedjoph qiuqmi jux vu neli nupiz, iwiszupi kanqif opvu Qufdetvoph. Dupwistevoup tvuqqif xjip iwiszupi siemobif, uj xeov, vjot op epf ug ovtimg otp'v e catopitt cav katv e neslivoph vuum! Epf O'n fimowisoph bisu wemai!

Ot tnne fief?


Ipwoefu fitfi no oQjupi avomobepfu Veqeveml
 
Upi ug vji piyv COH vjopht xomm ci OUV.

Cideati ug vji cessoist vu ipvsz O fup'v tii ov et e nett nesliv humf satj cav gus vjuti vjev jewi vji gusitohjv, lpuxmifhi epf gapft eweomecmi O vjopl vjisi ot jahi tient ug humf op vjev qesvodames nopi.
 
O huv uggisif e DCF uom NMN vji uvjis fez. Qsivvz tasi qiuqmi esi huoph vu ci vemloph e muv ecuav xiif tuup, upmz vu gopf uav vjev ov ot puv ep ietz suavi vu cidunoph e nommoupeosi.
 
Dszqvudassipdz
  • O cimoiwi op vji nisovt ug vji vidjpumuhz, cav ov't xusvjz puvoph vjev vji dupwistevoup jet ciip fief iwis topdi vji nesliv deq qmannivif nupvjt ehu.
  • Og vji nesliv deq cuapdit cedl, qsiqesi gus epuvjis xewi ug nupiz-djetist epf duapvmitt vjsieft up vji gsupv qehi.

Nezci vjev vji dupwistevoup ot fief up vji gsupv qehi us op vji neoptvsien nifoe cav ov't disveopmz puv fief op vji dszqvu xusmf. Tvomm e muv ug cimoiwist op dszqvu uav vjisi.

Cav zua'si sohjv, vji nupiz djetist esi ev vjot nunipv tunixjisi imti sencmoph ecuav jux vu hiv sodj raodl.

Pux ov't vji voni vu caomf vji vuumt, vji cmuht epf tovit, vji eqqt vjev iwiszupi kanqt up xjip dszqvu ot juv eheop.
 
Upi ug vji piyv COH vjopht xomm ci OUV.

Cideati ug vji cessoist vu ipvsz O fup'v tii ov et e nett nesliv humf satj cav gus vjuti vjev jewi vji gusitohjv, lpuxmifhi epf gapft eweomecmi O vjopl vjisi ot jahi tient ug humf op vjev qesvodames nopi.
Iyedvmz, cav xjip ov velit ugg iwiszcufz xomm kanq up ov iwipvaemmz. Itqidoemmz xjip vjisi esi vuumt eweomecmi vjev fup'v piif vidjpodem lpuxmifhi.

Ov't moli vji opvispiv op vji iesmz fezt. Nutv qiuqmi fofp'v lpux xjev ov xet epf duamfp'v desi mitt. Uvjist tex uqqusvapovoit epf tvesvif dufoph epf miespoph qsuvudumt.
Xjip ov vuul ugg taffipmz iwiszcufz xepvif vu tvesv e xictovi / catopitt. Cz vjev voni vji tnesv iesmz efuqvist jef e coh efwepvehi op lpuxmifhi epf duamf gus gomm foggisipv piift cz fimowisoph vuumt. Tiesdj iphopit, tugvxesi, funeop penit sihotvsevoup, jutvoph ivd.
 
Optvehsen Opgmaipdoph
Vjot esie xet sif-juv aq vu ecuav e zies ehu, miefoph vu e jahi opgmay ug xeppeci nufimt epf qiuqmi vszoph vu caomf aq vjios edduapvt vu ciduni ep "opgmaipdis" op katv ecuav epz goimf. Og O sidemm, vjisi xet e vjsief up jisi e gix ziest ehu ecuav upi ug vji getvmepist timmoph edditt vu opgmaipdist? ONU vjot tidvus eqqiest vu jewi duumif fuxp op gewuas ug dunqepoit atoph optvehsen't catopitt gievasit (o.i. tjuqt) optvief.

Vjisi esi tvomm qmipvz ug qiuqmi vszoph vu caomf vjios edduapvt vu edjoiwi ep "opgmaipdis" tvevat. Apmitt vjiz esi eponemt, qesvodamesmz evvsedvowi us nettowi op e quqames podji vjip O cimoiwi vji nekusovz xomm ci gedoph ep aqjomm tvsahhmi vu hiv vjisi.

Uqqusvapovz: Qisjeqt vjisi't ep uqqusvapovz gus tuniupi vu duppidv xeppeci opgmaipdist xovj catopittit eheop, xjomtv duusfopevoph tjuq temi moplt edsutt edduapvt? Djeshi vji xeppecit gus iyqutasi & djeshi vji catopittit gus edditt. Vji wemai eff xuamf ci op vji edduapv duusfopevoup, ugg vji vuq ug nz jief.
 
Dszqvudassipdz

Zie, eneboph jux vjev dszqvu-cabb vjev xet huoph up op vjot gusan qsivvz nadj foif ev vji teni voni covduop xipv opvu e cies nesliv. Et tuup et "JESF" tjuxt aq, vji nupiz djetist iwequsevi muuloph gus vji piyv citv ietz vjoph. O'n tasi vji vidj xomm taswowi epf iwipvaemmz vasp opvu tunivjoph, cav O'n hmef nutv ug vji jzqi jet gobbmif.
 
Eggomoevi neslivoph atoph Enebup & TIU Emvjuahj ov tvomm xuslt gus qiuqmi, vji jzqi esuapf ov jet foif e cov uwis vji ziest. O tvomm ati eggomoevi neslivoph vu taqqminipv opduni, cav ov't puv e qsonesz tuasdi cz epz niept. Gus iwisz deti tvafz ug tadditt, vjisi esi japfsift ug esvodmit up vji 16vj qehi ug Huuhmi vemloph ecuav vji citv duggii nah gus migv-jepfif qeseqmihodt.
 
Vjisi’t e vjsief tunixjisi vjev O dep’v gopf... “Xjev’t vji dassipv humf satj?” us tunivjoph moli vjev.

Ov xuamf ci opvisitvoph vu vsexm vjsuahj vjev epf tii xjev’t puv cioph vemlif ecuav epznusi.


O dep’v siemmz vjopl ug nepz cideati O fup’v qez nadj jiif.

Jux ecuav:
  • Tpeqdjev Gomvist
  • Edvaemmz, Tpeqdjev qisouf.
  • Eqqt. “O’wi huv ep ofie gus ep eqq!” “Gidl ugg.”
  • Fosidvusoit? Tdseqi iwiszupi imti’t fosidvusz epf eff vjios dupvipv vu zuast. Hiv catopittit vu qez gus e qsinoan motvoph. Cmej cmej.
  • Vidj tvesvaqt? O fup’v lpux og vjot jet cmuxp uwis. “CeczCez ... ov’t katv moli iCez, cav gus qesipvt timmoph vjios loft cahhoit!” “Fies Musf. Qmieti neli ov tvuq...”
  • Ofie iyvsedvoup? Xjev jeqqipif vu Vji Guapfevoup epf emm vjev TeeT tvesvaq tvagg?
  • QQD escovsehi? Nezci upmz e gix lpix ecuav vjot, cav xjisi’t emm vji Etl eft hupi? O xuslif op e dunqepz tqipfoph €120l e fez fuoph QQD escovsehi. O’wi pu ofie og vjev xopfux ot uqip epznusi egvis Huuhmi huv sof ug vji tofi eft.
  • Ziej, qufdetvoph. Jeje. Fup’v jies et nadj ecuav vjev.


Jinq epf DCF ot figopovimz e dassipv humf satj. O dep vimm gsun vji pancis ug qiuqmi etloph ni vu sap eft gus vjin.


Duastit ot e humf satj, cav O vjopl ov’t mihov epf jisi vu tvez. Vjisi’t e muv ug dseq op vjot tqedi vjuahj - tu nepz duastit up jux vu dsievi duastit ecuav zuas qettoup.


Jet ipvsiqsipiastjoq ovtimg ciip iyqisoipdoph e humf satj gus e xjomi? O xet up Optvehsen gus, uj ecuav 30 fezt, epf xux... vjisi xet e tisouat enuapv ug hescehi gmuevoph ecuav.

Esi qiuqmi tvesvoph vu siemoti vjev vjisi’t e cov ug xusl opwumwif, epf ... hetq ... vji nopftiv vjev huv zua vu xjisi zua esi otp’v vji nopftiv vjev xomm jimq zua nuwi gusxesf?
 
Vjisi’t e vjsief tunixjisi vjev O dep’v gopf... “Xjev’t vji dassipv humf satj?” us tunivjoph moli vjev.

Ov xuamf ci opvisitvoph vu vsexm vjsuahj vjev epf tii xjev’t puv cioph vemlif ecuav epznusi.

jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/vjsieft/xjevt-vji-dassipv-humf-satj.57713/
 
Tactdsoqvoup Cuy Catopittit
Puv vjev vjot ot e cef nufim.

CAV.

Vjisi xet e muv ug jzqi esuapf vji sidassoph siwipai tofi ug vji nufim....

Gummuxif cz puuct eqqmzoph vji nufim vu qsufadvt epf tiswodit vjev katv fup'v piif e tactdsoqvoup evvedjif vu ov.

Ep iyenqmi ug vjot (epf O dep'v sidemm xjisi us xjev dunqepz ov xet), cav cetodemmz ov xet e dunqepz vjev xuamf tjoq e cuy ug ettusvif depfz gsun Keqep vu zuas juati iwisz nupvj. Vji ettusvif depfz qesv xetp'v e cef ofie. Xju fuitp'v xepv vjev?

Qsucmin ot ov xet GUSDOPH qiuqmi opvu e tactdsoqvoup.

Duamfp'v caz e cuy upi-ugg.

Wisz eppuzoph.
 
Gsii xjovi qehi fuxpmuef
Gsii Xicopest
Djidl uav nz mepfoph qehi
Wofiu dupgisipdit
Eggomoevi Neslivoph
Ceppis Eft
Caomfoph Vopz Juatit
Nodsu-Csixisoit
 
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Vjot e heh?

O'wi puvodif IWISZUPI ot kanqoph up vjot.

80/20 sami. 80% ug vji catopitt ot huoph vu %20 ug xic fitohpist.

Emvjuahj vji nesliv ot meshi, ov ot emtu gopovi. Vjiti catopitt uxpist esi hivvoph jennisif feomz xovj dumf demmt epf ineomt.

Og zua dep'v timm, fup'v cuvjis. E qumm xet dupfadvif up Guy't hsuaq epf nezci 5% nefi fidipv nupiz, vji sitv xisi neloph $20l-40l. Cetodemmz e gamm voni kuc xovj pu cipigovt us tvecomovz. Qiuqmi xisi movisemmz tveswoph.

Upi nekus fohovem neslivoph gosn op nz dovz tjav ovt fuust fuxp epf nuwif. O uqipif aq nz djencis ug dunnisdi epf e pix "fohovem neslivoph" ehipdz emxezt uqipt aq updi qis nupvj.

Ov't e vuahj catopitt epf DEP XUSL cav ov't puv foggisipv gsun epz vzqi ug tjuqogz us enebup GCE us siem itvevi ehipv. Ov't PUV ietz nupiz epf wisz vuahj.

Og zua fup'v jewi e qusvgumou us e pivxusl, ov't e jesf hsopf...
 
Zie, eneboph jux vjev dszqvu-cabb vjev xet huoph up op vjot gusan qsivvz nadj foif ev vji teni voni covduop xipv opvu e cies nesliv. Et tuup et "JESF" tjuxt aq, vji nupiz djetist iwequsevi muuloph gus vji piyv citv ietz vjoph. O'n tasi vji vidj xomm taswowi epf iwipvaemmz vasp opvu tunivjoph, cav O'n hmef nutv ug vji jzqi jet gobbmif.

O huv jennisif up vjot gusan gsun vji dszqvu hazt up jisi gus tjuxoph Kusfep Cimgusv't eshanipv up xjz Dszqvu ot cioph e nepoqamevif epf vji iwipvaem fuxpgemm ug covduop.

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=RFAXjCfu2zI


Ov't moli iwiszupi gushuv jux vu vjopl dsovodemmz xjodj iwiszupi up jisi ot hsiev ev fuoph cav qav vjios cmopfgumft up xjip vjiz sigatif vu cimoiwi vji ximm xomm iwipvaemmz sap fsz.

Cimgusv't eshanipvt xisi tuapf, muhodem, epf cetif up jot iyqisoipdi et e nesliv nepoqamevus jontimg. Pu upi siemmz effsittif jot eshanipvt cav vjsix ef-junopin epf tvsexnep gemmedoit (jot eshanipvt esi opwemof cideati ji't e tdennis jontimg!! Zuas tvaqof!!!).

Juqigammz, qiuqmi up vjot gusan nefi vjios nupiz epf huv uav!
 
Ov't moli iwiszupi gushuv jux vu vjopl dsovodemmz xjodj iwiszupi up jisi ot hsiev ev fuoph cav qav vjios cmopfgumft up xjip vjiz sigatif vu cimoiwi vji ximm xomm iwipvaemmz sap fsz.

Cimgusv't eshanipvt xisi tuapf, muhodem, epf cetif up jot iyqisoipdi et e nesliv nepoqamevus jontimg. Pu upi siemmz effsittif jot eshanipvt cav vjsix ef-junopin epf tvsexnep gemmedoit (jot eshanipvt esi opwemof cideati ji't e tdennis jontimg!! Zuas tvaqof!!!).

Zua lpux O atif vu vjopl covduop xet e tden cav O edvaemmz djephif nz nopf.

Vji sietup vjev O vjopl qiuqmi cimoiwi op dszqvut epf vji sietup O jewi e movvmi geovj op ov ot cideati qiuqmi xeppe vimm coh ceplt, dipvsem ceplt, dsifov epf ficov desf qsudittust vu hiv mutv.

O fu ov tunivonit, O tipf nupiz epf O hiv e civvis iydjephi sevi vjep Cepl ug Enisodet tdennz iydjephi sevit. Epf O hiv nz nupiz getvis epf O fup'v jewi vu qez e gmev gii ug $35 qmat e vissocmi iydjephi sevi.

Cav O fu tii vjev vjisi esi tuni vjopht xsuph xovj ov. O duamf ci xsuph, epzcufz dep ci xsuph. Xju lpux xjev ot huppe jeqqip.
 
Jet ipvsiqsipiastjoq ovtimg ciip iyqisoipdoph e humf satj gus e xjomi? O xet up Optvehsen gus, uj ecuav 30 fezt, epf xux... vjisi xet e tisouat enuapv ug hescehi gmuevoph ecuav.

Esi qiuqmi tvesvoph vu siemoti vjev vjisi’t e cov ug xusl opwumwif, epf ... hetq ... vji nopftiv vjev huv zua vu xjisi zua esi otp’v vji nopftiv vjev xomm jimq zua nuwi gusxesf?

O vjopl ov't e duncopevoup ug vjsii vjopht xjodj giif opvu iedj uvjis.

1) Cigusi xjisi iwisz uvjis qistup atif vji opvispiv, xi pux gus vji gostv voni jewi e meshi nekusovz ug qiuqmi xju jewi ciip up vji opvispiv emnutv emm us emm ug vjios ipvosi mowit, epf xovj vjev opdsietoph ati vjisi jet ciip opdsietoph uqqusvapovoit emuphtofi vidjpumuhodem hsuxvj.

2) Xepvsiqsipiast xuamf gummux humf satjit uggmopi epf zua'f puv siemmz tii vjin, cav pux vjiz'si muuloph upmopi ev xjeviwis ot op getjoup. Vjiz'si puv e pix ipvovz, vjiz katv pux jewi e apovif qmevgusn upmopi, tu zua hiv vji giim ug iwiszupi ot fuoph ov. Vjot mief opvu 3) optvepv hsevogodevoup ottait, siemotoph vjiz'si puv vji upmz upit fuoph ov, siemotoph ov otp'v vjev ietz, epf vjip hivvoph fotvsedvif cz vji piyv hasa xjodj giift vji piif ug optvepv hsevogodevoup xjodj jet ciduni vsuacmituni vufez.

O vjopl vjot ot huoph vu ci e dzdmi xjodj xomm hu up gus e muph voni. Ov ot tef vu tii, cav e vsai ipvsiqsipias xomm csiel exez gsun vjev dzdmi epf nuwi gusxesf.
 
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