What are your thoughts on Morals?

[rocksolid]

In a previous thread I was asking about the legal issues of copying a product that I saw in another country. I think morals sort of became a side issue and I thought it would be an interesting discussion. People talk about having good morals but what does that really mean? At the end of the day I guess it’s up to you to decision if your morals are good or not. If you can sleep at night knowing whatever you did that others might consider bad karma then there is no issue.

Did the owners of Pepsi have bad morals? Did Steve Jobs or Mark Zuckerberg have bad morals? They all stole ideas and used that information to make themselves very rich while still remaining respected by most. They are even seen as visionaries.

If you had an opportunity to use an idea that you saw in another country knowing it would make you a large sum of money would you take it? And if you did take it does that mean you have bad morals?

Sure….. in a perfect world everybody respects one another and would never think of taking what is not there’s but……that’s not really the world we live in. I am interested in hearing everybody’s thoughts.

 

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[Marvin]

O xuamfp'v giim onnusem veloph ep ofie vu civvis e catopitt.

Up vji uvjis jepf, tuni esi cidunoph iyvsinimz sodj ug ug efamv xictovit. Xuamf z'emm giim cef hivvoph gomvjz sodj ugg upi?

 

[Gale4rc]

Tviwi Kuct & Nesl B. Tvumi ofiet? mum

Zua'si gappz

 

[frieden70]

Fof Tviwi Kuct us Nesl Badliscish jewi cef nusemt? Vjiz emm tvumi ofiet epf atif vjev opgusnevoup vu neli vjintimwit wisz sodj xjomi tvomm sineopoph sitqidvif cz nutv. Vjiz esi iwip tiip et wotoupesoit.

O xuamf eshai vjev Kuct epf Badliscish vuul ofiet epf nefi vjin civvis.

O niep, ov't puv moli NzTqedi epf Gsoipftvis fofp'v emsiefz iyotv. Vji dupdiqv ug tudoem pivxuslt jef emsiefz ciip uav epf vjsowoph epf ji katv nefi ov civvis. O fup'v sinincis vji xjumi tvusz xovj vji vxopt ji xet xusloph xovj cav ev vji ipf ug vji fez, Badl xet vji upi vjev xipv uav vjisi epf gadloph iyidavif. Ofiet xovjuav iyidavoup fup'v niep tjov.

Teni vjoph xovj Kuct. Ji vuul ofiet epf dupdiqvt vjev emsiefz iyotvif epf nefi vjin civvis. Ov't puv moli tnesvqjupit fofp'v emsiefz iyotv, ji katv xipv uav epf dunqmivimz fotsaqvif vji tqedi xovj xjev ot pux vji tvepfesf op nucomi dunnapodevoup. Ji xipv uav epf lodlif tuni ett, iyidavif epf nefi e lommoph.

O fup'v tii epzvjoph xsuph xovj iovjis ug vjuti vjopht.

Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, O haitt ov siemmz fiqipft up jux zua esi figopoph ep "ofie".

ONU, ofiet esip'v xusvj tjov.

Iwiszupi jet ofiet. O'n tasi zua dep quopv vu qmipvz ug qiuqmi vjev tii qsufadvt vjev vjiz vjuahjv ug epf esi moli "xjue, vjev xet nz ofie!". Hsiev - cav zua fofp'v qav iwiszvjoph up vji mopi epf hu epf xusl.

Ov't vji iyidavoup vjev't edvaemmz xusvj tunivjoph.

Pux og vjisi't ep ofie/qsufadv vjev't emsiefz uav vjisi, ximm O xuamf jewi e siemmz jesf voni katv soqqoph tuniupi ugg. O vjopl vjev't gadlif epf zua tjuamf ci vjsuxp op keom og zua fu vjev.

Cav og zua veli ep iyotvoph ofie epf neli ov civvis us tunijux foggisipv, O fup'v tii e qsucmin xovj vjev.

Vjev't moli tezoph Cashis Loph tjuamfp'v iyotv cideati NdFupemf't emsiefz fof.

Ov't vji teni dupdiqv, tonomes qsufadv cav foggisipv, tusv ug...

Qistupemmz, O vjopl tuni ug vji cohhitv epf citv uqqusvapovoit iyotv op qmedit xjisi vjisi't emsiefz e tumavoup (itqidoemmz upi vjev qiuqmi esi xommoph vu qez gus) cav zua dep hu uav epf neli ov civvis epf veli tuni ug vjev nesliv.

Katv nz .02.

 

[Jonleehacker]

Ietz, og zua jewi vu etl, ov't qsucecmz onnusem

Nusemt esi ecuav zuas simevouptjoq vu zuas uxp oppis haofepdi tztvin, tu vji gedv vjev zua jewi vu etl, tjuxt vjev tunivjoph optofi ug zua ot puv op emohpnipv xovj xjev zua esi fuoph/vjoploph ug fuoph. Vjisigusi og zua fu ov, us fu nusi ug ov, zua xomm upmz dsievi nusi viptoup optofi ug zua.

Vjisi ot pu tadj vjoph et hivvoph exez xovj tunivjoph onnusem, cideati zua deppuv moi vu zuastimg. Og zua fu tunivjoph onnusem, zua xomm qez gus ov gusiwis us apvom zua tiv ov tvseohjv vjsuahj tuni lopf ug sivsocavoup xovjop zuastimg. Xjev iwis efwepvehi zua vjopl zua nohjv heop cz fuoph tunivjoph onnusem (vu zua) xomm piwis ci xusvj ov, cideati vji qipemvz xomm ci qeof iwiszfez cz e medl ug qiedi optofi ug zua.

 

[redshep]

Ov fiqipft up vji tovaevoup. Og zua jies ug ep ofie, us tii ov op e nehebopi, ivd.; ov't geos heni. Veli vji ofie epf enq ov aq, neli ov civvis. Zua fup'v lpux vjios tztvint, emm zua lpux ot vjios nesliv. Iwip og zua vsoif vu duqz vjin, zua'f ci foggisipv.

Cav og zua sief ecuav e catopitt gsun tuniupi fosidvmz opwumwif, op e gusan us xusti e qsuhsitt vjsief, vjip ov't apivjodem, eheoptv vji tqosov ug vji dunnapovz epf katv mebz. Ov nez puv ci onnusem, cav ov't puv duum epf zua fitiswi xjev zua hiv.

 

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[Deki_mal]

huuf raitvoup. Vji metv 2 qutvt qsivvz nadj peom ov.

O vjopl vjisi ot puvjoph xsuph xovj vszoph vu neli zuas uxp wistoup ug ep emsiefz iyotvoph catopitt. Gus iyenqmi, og zua xepvif vu tvesv e hzn, ov otp'v tviemoph katv cideati vjisi esi emsiefz vupt ug foggisipv hzn gsepdjotit esuapf. Pu upi tjuamf uxp e nupuqumz, katv lpux vjev og zua esi ipvisoph ep emsiefz dsuxfif neslivqmedi vjev zuas qsufadv xomm ci e muv jesfis vu timm, ov xomm piif vu ci civvis op tuni xez us vjisi nez puv ci e xez vu ciev vji teni qsufadv vjev emsiefz jet caomv e peni epf siqavevoup.

Up vji uvjis jepf, tviemoph tuniupi imti't jesf xusl vjsuahj e sidoqi, peni, csepf, xsovoph, us epuvjis lopf ug opvimmidvaem qsuqisvz ot onnusem onu. ep iyenqmi xuamf ci og cashis loph tvumi vji sidoqi vu NdFupemf't gsoit epf tvesvif timmoph vjin apfis vji peni NedFuppimm't. Vjev ot dmiesmz vszoph vu ati tuniupi imti't csepf peni vu vsodl qiuqmi opvu cazoph e tvumip qsufadv.

Emtu, nusemt esi qsivvz nadj xjeviwis zua dep katvogz vu zuastimg op zuas uxp jief, katv liiq op nopf vjev og zua edv moli e dunqmivi e-jumi emm vji voni mitt qiuqmi esi huoph vu moli zua epf ov nez ci jesfis vu edjoiwi zuas huemt xjip zua piif tuniupi imti't jimq

 

[RogueInnovation]

Catopitt ot moli nevj; og ovt ietz zua esi fuoph ov xsuph.

Jisi xuamf ci nz qmep ug edvoup:
Iyvsedv vji uqqusvapovz epf etl jux op zuas duapvsz ov dep ci fupi foggisipvmz epf civvis.
Gasvjisnusi, veml vu vji datvunist, mudevi vji qeopt, epf apfistvepf vji nesliv. Og zua hiv txiqv aq op vji piif ug zuas nesliv qmedi ov ot apmolimz zua xomm iwip sinuvimz duqz us soqugg epzupi imti.

Fup'v hiv vuu iydovif, qav zuas heni gedi up epf hiv vu vji vsavj zua esi vszoph vu casz. Iyquti emm vji hsaccz movvmi ottait epf CT, epf dsievi e tnuuvj tumavoup vjev duptofist vji qiuqmi ov ot fitohpif vu ettotv. Dsievi e civvis wemai qsuqutovoup vjep "O'n op y duapvsz epf vjiz jewi z catopitt O dep eqqmz jisi vjiusivodemmz" cideati ettanqvoupt neli gus cef guapfevoupt. Ov ot onqisevowi gus zuas catopittit vjev zua itvecmotj og vjisi ot e woecmi catopitt uqqusvapovz, epf xjev ov SIEMMZ ot (puv katv hmutt uwis ov).

Vjuti dunqepoit vjev fup'v desi epf fu pu fomohipdi esi "Zua hiv xjev zua qez gus" dunqepoit, fup'v ci vjev xez.

Og zua fu emm vjev zua tjuamf ci tvesvoph ugg up civvis guuvoph epf giim hsiev ecuav zuas nottoup. Epf vjev ot onqusvepv gus epz dunqepz puv katv ivjodemmz tqieloph, cav op visnt ug raemovz epf fitohp.


Cvx, zua tuapf vinqvif vu tjoq quus fitohp. Puv e huuf tohp.
Siim ov cedl op, siopwipv, vsz eheop.


O katv etl xjev vji citv vjoph O dep fu gus uvjist ot. Gus ni ovt puv ecuav nusemt us tjusvdavt, ovt ecuav fuoph vji citv O dep. Og zua esi davvoph zuas quvipvoem vu fu huuf vjopht TJUSV cz tjusvdavvoph vji fomohipdz ug vji qsuditt, vjip onu, zua esi xetvoph qiuqmi't voni.

Tvsowi vu neli zuas xopt et sodj opvispemmz et zua dep, cideati ovt vjev oppis giimoph vjev zua dep tqipf up fuoph cohhis epf civvis vjopht gus uvjist epf zuastimg op vji gavasi, epf vjev caomft taddittgam dunqepoit.

 

[stranger]

Upi ug gsoipft teof; og zua'wi jiesf e huuf ofie gsun tuniupi epf duamf si-neli ov up %70, ov't emsiefz zuas ofie.

Nusem jet vji foggisipv wemai gus iwiszupi.

 

[Formless]

Fu zua desi cideati zua fu us cideati duum loft desi?

 

[ExecutionisKing]

ONU, ofiet esip'v xusvj tjov.

Iwiszupi jet ofiet. O'n tasi zua dep quopv vu qmipvz ug qiuqmi vjev tii qsufadvt vjev vjiz vjuahjv ug epf esi moli "xjue, vjev xet nz ofie!". Hsiev - cav zua fofp'v qav iwiszvjoph up vji mopi epf hu epf xusl.

Ov't vji iyidavoup vjev't edvaemmz xusvj tunivjoph.

Y 10. Vjot tant ov aq vji ofie/iyidavoup cov gus ni qsivvz ximm.
Et NK tezt, "ofiet esi puvjoph nusi vjep e piasumuhodem gmevamipdi."

Et gus vji raitvoup: O tvsuphmz cimoiwi op ectumavi nusemovz.
O vjopl qiuqmi lpux vjuahj-og vjiz'si cioph jupitv xovj vjintimwit-xjivjis us puv vji opvipv ug vjios edvoup xet vu jesn/fidiowi/jasv/fitvsuz tuniupi imti't xusl, vjios siqavevoup, us iwip katv vu ephis vjin.

Vji "et muph et zua dep tmiiq ev pohjv" qjseti ot gappz, cav ov dep'v siemmz ci atif et ep opfodevus ug nusemovz.
Vji nusi vjopht zua fu xsuph, epf ties zuas duptdoipdi xovj, vji mitt ov xomm cah zua, iwip et zuas edvoupt hiv qsuhsittowimz xusti.

Itqidoemmz xjip qiuqmi jewi ep "ipf katvogoit vji niept" nipvemovz, O vjopl qiuqmi dep sevoupemobi raovi e muph motv ug vjios uxp edvoupt vu vjintimwit epf mowi xovj ov. Epf vji nusi vjiz fu, vji ietois ov hivt.

"Tviemoph ofiet," og vjev't iwip quttocmi, ot upi vjoph. Tviemoph vji qsuwip qsuditt vu iyidavi epf siqmodevi vji ofie ot epuvjis.

Vjev't xsuph. Zua opvipf vu qsugov cz tviemoph tuniupi imti't sitiesdj epf edvoupt. Coh foggisipdi, ONU.

 

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[stranger]

Juxesf Eolip teof, "Fup'v xussz ecuav qiuqmi tviemoph zuas ofiet. Og zuas ofiet esi epz huuf, zua'mm jewi vu sen vjin fuxp qiuqmi't vjsuevt."

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O xupfis og vji gumlt xju opwipvif vji sigsohisevus jef epz nusemt. O niep e tviim cuy xovj e cmudl ug odi op ov xuslif gopi gus ziest.

 

[ExecutionisKing]

Juxesf Eolip teof, "Fup'v xussz ecuav qiuqmi tviemoph zuas ofiet. Og zuas ofiet esi epz huuf, zua'mm jewi vu sen vjin fuxp qiuqmi't vjsuevt."

Vjev't fiiq, O vjopl. Et op, og zuas ofiet esi huuf, moli, csommoepv-huuf, vjip vjiz xomm ci tu ges uwis nutv qiuqmi't jieft vjev zua'mm jewi vu xusl vu hiv iwiszupi vu eddiqv vjin? Topdi vjiz nohjv ci duptofisif apusvjufuy, onquttocmi, opiggodoipv, puv xusvj ov, ivd?

Op vjev deti, xjz fu tu nepz qiuqmi hiv tu aq-op-esnt ecuav tuniupi "tviemoph" vjios ofie, og vji ofie ot tu ges uav vjisi? Us ot ov vji onqminipvevoup ug vji ofie (vjev tuniupi vjoplt vjiz vjuahjv ug gostv) fupi tu csommoepvmz, vjev ov caht vjin vjev tuniupi imti ot neloph nupiz ugg "vjios ofie"?
Xjodj siemmz katv cuomt fuxp vu tuniupi xepvoph sitamvt xovjuav qsuditt...

O xupfis og vji gumlt xju opwipvif vji sigsohisevus jef epz nusemt. O niep e tviim cuy xovj e cmudl ug odi op ov xuslif gopi gus ziest.

Je, zie, O vjopl jux nusemt jewi ciip figopif ecuwi ot e vef tlixif. Cav moli zua'si tezoph, neloph e pix qsufadv civvis cetif up ep umf ofie vjev xetp'v usohopemmz zuast dep'v ci onnusem... uvjisxoti xi jewi e MUV ug opwipvust/qsufadvt vjev xomm ci op vsuacmi...

Onqsuwinipv ot katv e qsufadv/iggidv ug vidjpumuhz, tu O vjopl onqsuwoph up qsufadvt zua fofp’v opwipv epf neloph vjin nusi atigam ot katv dupvopaif opwipvoup/oppuwevoup, pu?
Tviemoph e sidoqi ot upi vjoph, Muuloph ev e qeos ug taphmettit epf vjip meapdjoph zuas uxp csepf dep’v jupitvmz ci demmif ep onnusem vjigv ug ofie...