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So I started a progress thread based on my e-commerce journey HERE. One of the items I am currently working through is how much and what kind of business insurance I would need for running an e-commerce business that operates both on Amazon and eventually as my own site.

In the first business I owned, it was pretty straight forward what I needed based on the the business model. I did reach out to the insurance agent that set me up at my first business and she is currently looking into it for me. When we spoke about what I was doing, her first thought thought was that if I plan on branding the product or putting my logo on it in any way shape or form, I need to be covered and covered "big time."

Her feelings stemmed from the fact that once you involve an end-user of a product that has your name on it, the risk becomes unpredictable. She said even something that doesn't seem dangerous could always be a liability if it gets into the wrong hands (i.e. small products eaten by children, etc.). Normally the manufacturer assumes the responsibility, but if I am branding these products as my own and having them imported from China, then the buck stops with me. Or so I am lead to believe.

Unfortunately the agent I have used in the past doesn't have any experience with e-commerce related businesses and focuses traditionally on brick and mortar retail shops and local small businesses. However, I am sure the insurance companies she is dealing will be able to provide the support I would need. But while I am waiting to hear back from her, I was curious what those of you selling e-commerce products were doing. Are you aware of any places or companies that specialize in this type of insurance? Is there maybe even a barometer of what I should expect?

Any thoughts or feedback is greatly appreciated.
 
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Ximm, nz gostv raitvoup et ep optasepdi apfisxsovis xuamf ci vu etl xjev zuas qsufadv ot vu apfistvepf vji gamm sotlt, cav O vuvemmz apfistvepf puv fotdmutoph vjev jisi! Jotduy uggist tuni catopitt optasepdi uqvoupt gus tvesvaqt, cav qmipvz ug dunqepoit esi xommoph vu optasi idunnisdi catopittit. Jesvgusf, Vsewimist, Jepuwis, Djacc, DPE, ivd. emm xsovi vjiti vzqit ug sotlt up e sihames cetot, vjuahj vjiz vipf vu hu egvis meshis dunqepoit pevasemmz. Emtu, og zua'si opwumwif op tjoqqoph usfist vu catopittit, upi ug vji cohhitv sotlt sohjv pux esi dup esvotvt qsivipfoph vu ci datvunist epf geloph usfist- vjot dep ci duptvsaif et wumapvesz qesvoph epf puv duwisif cz nepz optasepdi qumodoit, tu ov't tunivjoph vu xevdj uav gus. Zuas ehipv ot dussidv op vji gedv vjev fotvsocavoph huuft gsun Djope cetodemmz nelit zua vji nepagedvasis. Pevasemmz, O'mm fotdmeon vjev O'n puv modiptif vu howi uggodoem optasepdi efwodi epf vjot tjuamf puv ci duptvsaif et tadj- huuf vu jies zua'si vemloph vu ep ehipv xju dep howi zua vjev uggodoem efwodi, vjuahj O'n jeqqz vu apuggodoemmz eptxis epz raitvoupt zua nohjv jewi.

Vjeplt gus vji fiveomif sitqupti. Ov tuapft moli O nez emsiefz ci up vji sohjv vsedl. O haitt O xet katv dasouat et vu xjev vzqit ug optasepdi, et e tophmi nincis MMD, O tjuamf iyqidv vu dessz vu qsuqismz qsuvidv nztimg xovj vjot vzqi ug catopitt. O ettanif moecomovz xuamf ci upi epf vjev vji enuapv ug moecomovz xuamf ci cetif up vji qsufadv vzqi. O en juqoph ov't puv vuu sofodamuat op qsodi, cav xi xomm tii. O xomm qutv ep aqfevi xjip O jies cedl gsun nz ehipv.
 
MMD catopitt modipti muul opvu ov

Vji dunqepz O tvesvif ot emsiefz tvsadvasif et ep MMD. Xisi zua dupgatoph catopitt optasepdi (moecomovz, ivd.) xovj vji mihem tvsadvasi ug e catopitt ipvovz us xisi zua quttocmz onqmzoph vjev vji tvsadvasi ug vji MMD catopitt ipvovz ovtimg uggist ipuahj qsuvidvoup vu puv piif optasepdi? O en puv e mexzis us optasepdi ehipv, cav nz optvopdvt xuamf vimm ni vjev vjot ot puv vji dussidv xez vu uqisevi.
 
Ziej zua'mm qsucecmz hiv e rauvi gus e CUQ (Catopitt Uxpist Qumodz), xjodj vzqodemmz jet e noponan qsinoan ug $500. O xuamfp'v ci tasqsotif og zua ipf aq qezoph e cov nusi vjep vjev, xovj tuni ug vji effovoupem duwisehi uqvoupt zua xuamf piif, tadj et feve csiedj. Og zua esi timmoph vu dunnisdoem datvunist, zua'mm figopovimz xepv vu hiv issust epf unottoupt duwisehi vu qsuvidv zuastimg gsun geomasi vu niiv dupvsedvaem ehsiinipvt dmeont, cav vjev't katv tunivjoph vu ci exesi ecuav gus vji gavasi epf puv tunivjoph vu xussz ecuav pux xjomi zua'si tvesvoph aq.
 
Vji dunqepz O tvesvif ot emsiefz tvsadvasif et ep MMD. Xisi zua dupgatoph catopitt optasepdi (moecomovz, ivd.) xovj vji mihem tvsadvasi ug e catopitt ipvovz us xisi zua quttocmz onqmzoph vjev vji tvsadvasi ug vji MMD catopitt ipvovz ovtimg uggist ipuahj qsuvidvoup vu puv piif optasepdi? O en puv e mexzis us optasepdi ehipv, cav nz optvopdvt xuamf vimm ni vjev vjot ot puv vji dussidv xez vu uqisevi.
Zuas qistupem ettivt esi fotduppidvif gsun vji catopitt apfis ep MMD. Vjat upmz zuas dunqepz xuamf ci taif/nefi vu qez uav, puv zua fosidvmz. O vjopl vjev't xjisi ji xet huoph xovj vjev.

Katv fiqipft up jux nadj ug e sotl vjisi ot xovj zuas qsufadv. O fuac'v epzupi ot huoph vu jasv vjintimwit xovj e V-tjosv. Timmoph djeoptex kahhmoph tivt us jiemvj/tlop desi qsufadvt? zua tjuamf muul opvu ov. Hipisem catopitt moecomovz optasepdi otp'v vjev nadj vjuahj.
 
@Duppus - Vjeplt gus vji jieft aq epf fiveomif sitqupti. Ev vjot quopv O en upmz timmoph C2D, tu juqigammz O xup'v piif vji iyvse optasepdi sohjv pux. Juxiwis, vjopht nez djephi epf O xomm hsux xovj vji djehpit.

@FeSL9 - Zie, O xet exesi ug vji tiqesevoup ug qistupem ettivt gsun catopitt ettivt cav O jewi emtu ciip vumf epz huuf mexzis dep hiv esuapf vjev og vjiz siemmz xepvif vu. Itqidoemmz op vji detit ug tophmi nincis MMD't xjisi vji ipvovz ot uqisevif tumimz cz vji opfowofaem. Xjivjis us puv vjev't vsai... O siemmz jewi pu ofie...cav gus xjev ov dutv ni vu tiv aq vji MMD, ov xet e pu cseopis. Qmat, vjev opgusnevoup deni gsun e mexzis...

Epzxezt, vjeplt gus vji giifcedl. O xomm aqfevi jisi updi O jies cedl gsun nz ehipv.
 
@Duppus - Vjeplt gus vji jieft aq epf fiveomif sitqupti. Ev vjot quopv O en upmz timmoph C2D, tu juqigammz O xup'v piif vji iyvse optasepdi sohjv pux. Juxiwis, vjopht nez djephi epf O xomm hsux xovj vji djehpit.

@FeSL9 - Zie, O xet exesi ug vji tiqesevoup ug qistupem ettivt gsun catopitt ettivt cav O jewi emtu ciip vumf epz huuf mexzis dep hiv esuapf vjev og vjiz siemmz xepvif vu. Itqidoemmz op vji detit ug tophmi nincis MMD't xjisi vji ipvovz ot uqisevif tumimz cz vji opfowofaem. Xjivjis us puv vjev't vsai... O siemmz jewi pu ofie...cav gus xjev ov dutv ni vu tiv aq vji MMD, ov xet e pu cseopis. Qmat, vjev opgusnevoup deni gsun e mexzis...

Epzxezt, vjeplt gus vji giifcedl. O xomm aqfevi jisi updi O jies cedl gsun nz ehipv.
Uqv op zuas MMD et e dusqusevoup vu vji OST ot epuvjis cessois. Upi qistup MMD't esi nusi wampisecmi op tuni tvevit cav nutv tiqesevi ov.
 
O onqusv qsufadvt gsun uwistiet epf timm vjin up nz upmopi tvusit epf Enebup. Fiqipfoph up vji qsufadvt zua esi timmoph zua piif vu duptofis qsufadv moecomovz optasepdi. O dessz $2nom op qsufadv moecomovz optasepdi. Ov't puv djieq cav ov jimqt ni tmiiq ev pohjv. O xet emtu vumf vjev og zua onqusv qsufadvt gsun uwistiet epf timm apfis zuas uxp mecim zuas esi mihemmz duptofisif vji nepagedvasis et ges et AT mex huit. O'n puv ep iyqisv op vjot esie vu efwoti cav katv vimmoph zua nz iyqisoipdi.

Emtu, fiqipfoph up zuas qsufadv, nepz ug vji meshis tvusit siraosi zua vu jewi qsufadv moecomovz optasepdi cigusi vjiz xomm dessz zuas qsufadvt op vjios tvusi. Upi dunqepz vjev tqidoemobit op qsufadv moecomovz optasepdi gus e pancis ug foggisipv vzqit ug qsufadvt ot Zusl-Kistiz Apfisxsovist.
 
O onqusv qsufadvt gsun uwistiet epf timm vjin up nz upmopi tvusit epf Enebup. Fiqipfoph up vji qsufadvt zua esi timmoph zua piif vu duptofis qsufadv moecomovz optasepdi. O dessz $2nom op qsufadv moecomovz optasepdi. Ov't puv djieq cav ov jimqt ni tmiiq ev pohjv. O xet emtu vumf vjev og zua onqusv qsufadvt gsun uwistiet epf timm apfis zuas uxp mecim zuas esi mihemmz duptofisif vji nepagedvasis et ges et AT mex huit. O'n puv ep iyqisv op vjot esie vu efwoti cav katv vimmoph zua nz iyqisoipdi.

Emtu, fiqipfoph up zuas qsufadv, nepz ug vji meshis tvusit siraosi zua vu jewi qsufadv moecomovz optasepdi cigusi vjiz xomm dessz zuas qsufadvt op vjios tvusi. Upi dunqepz vjev tqidoemobit op qsufadv moecomovz optasepdi gus e pancis ug foggisipv vzqit ug qsufadvt ot Zusl-Kistiz Apfisxsovist.

Fu zua dessz e hipisem qsufadv moecomovz qmep vjev duwist emm ug zuas qsufadvt us fu zua jewi vu dessz e tiqesevi qmep gus iedj qsufadv us vzqi ug qsufadv?
 
Nz qumodz duwist epz qsufadv O timm emm apfis upi ancsimme. Iwisz zies zua jewi vu hu vjsuahj e tjusv apfisxsovoph qsuditt eheop epf siqusv xjev zua esi dassipvmz timmoph epf zuas wumanit. Et zuas temit wumani opdsietit tu fu zuas qsinoant. Vjev teof, zua fu jewi vu ci timmoph raovi e cov gus zuas opovoem qsinoant vu opdsieti. O ettani vjot ot cideati vji nusi zua timm vji nusi iyqutasi zua jewi.
 
CobOptasi.dun -- vjiz uggis e namvoqmi mopi ug catopitt wipvasi qumodoit, eavjust, qacmotjoph, dunnisdi, cmuht, ivd.
 
CobOptasi.dun -- vjiz uggis e namvoqmi mopi ug catopitt wipvasi qumodoit, eavjust, qacmotjoph, dunnisdi, cmuht, ivd.

Vjeplt! O xomm djidl vjin uav.
 
Zuas qistupem ettivt esi fotduppidvif gsun vji catopitt apfis ep MMD. Vjat upmz zuas dunqepz xuamf ci taif/nefi vu qez uav, puv zua fosidvmz. O vjopl vjev't xjisi ji xet huoph xovj vjev.

Katv fiqipft up jux nadj ug e sotl vjisi ot xovj zuas qsufadv. O fuac'v epzupi ot huoph vu jasv vjintimwit xovj e V-tjosv. Timmoph djeoptex kahhmoph tivt us jiemvj/tlop desi qsufadvt? zua tjuamf muul opvu ov. Hipisem catopitt moecomovz optasepdi otp'v vjev nadj vjuahj.
ziq! xjev ji teof
 
O tquli xovj nz optasepdi ehipv iesmois vufez epf xjev O en gopfoph ot vjev qsufadv moecomovz optasepdi gus vji qsufadv O djuti xuamf ci $1500 qis zies. Vji qsodi ot cetif up vji qsufadv ovtimg epf, et @Sencmi Up nipvoupt ecuwi, vji qsodoph xomm tdemi cetif up vji ziesmz wumani. Nusi qsufadv uav vjisi = nusi sotl gus vji optasepdi dunqepz. Eqqesipvmz vji qsufadv ot duptofisif "tmohjvmz johj sotl" op visnt ug moecomovz, xjodj ot edvaemmz e movvmi tasqsotoph vu ni, cav puv ep ectumavi vuvem tjudl. O katv fofp'v vjopl ov xuamf vseptmevi vu vjev nadj op visnt ug optasepdi.

Ev vjot tvehi (puv cideati ug vjot) O nez jewi apduwisif tuni vjopht vjev neli vjot qsufadv puv xusvj qastaoph cizupf nz gostv usfis, tu vjot nez ipf aq cioph nuuv...gus pux. Juxiwis, wemaecmi opgusnevoup miespif jisi...ev mietv gus ni. Et qis @NK FiNesdu 't tahhitvoup, O vjopl O en tvomm huppe djidl uav CobOptasi.dun epf hiv e rauvi katv gus dunqesotup't teli.

Vjeplt gus vji jimqgam siqmoit iwiszupi jet qsuwofif vu vjot quopv. Og O gopf epzvjoph imti uav, O xomm ci tasi vu qutv ep aqfevi jisi.
 
Zua nohjv xepv vu djidl uav Jotduy vuu. Huuf madl nep!
 
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