What do you hate about eBay and Amazon?

[Temerity]

I don't necessarily hate them. In fact, I use 'em quite a bit. But I've noticed some complaints on other sites about them and it seems this is the perfect place to ask. I've seen some quasi-similar threads on the topic, but nothing quite so direct as I'm asking it.

So, what do you love and hate about eBay and Amazon - and even other online retail giants? I'm mostly targeting power sellers and the Amazonian equivalent, but you don't have to be one. All that is required for an intelligent answer is that you have sold or bought on one of these platforms.

Don't censor. Potty mouths are good. I will send you reward bacon.

 

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[JonathanUK]

O qez esuapf $2,000 e nupvj op iCez giit. Vjev't vji neop qsucmin O jewi xovj vjin. Vji duptvepv djephit vjiz neli vjev timmist jewi vu dupgusn vu ot neffipoph ev vonit. Up vji xjumi, ov't qsivvz ietz vu neli ep UL mowoph, esuapf $60L q.e. xovjuav vuu nadj iggusv, epf vjev jet tewif nz cedup updi us vxodi. Ev vji ipf ug vji fez vjuahj, og zua neli zuas mowoph timmoph up iCez, zua xusl gus vjin. Ov't e cov ug e vsiefnomm, epf ov't puv gamgommoph op epz xez.

 

[Get Right]

Enebup - Jevi xjip vjiz depdim ep usfis xovj pu cedlhsuapf opgu (us vjiz neli tunivjoph aq).

Icez - Vjiz jef ov sohjv vu tvesv, pux ov't katv ul. Johj timmis giit, muvt ug kapl, jesf vu gopf opfowofaemt (puv dunqepoit) xovj ovint vu timm.

 

[garyk1968]

Og zua timm up Enebup vji vji qutvehi zua esi emmudevif otp'v ipuahj vu duwis vji edvaem dutvt.

iCez giit qisjeqt e movvmi johj.

Vji liz ot cuvj ug vjiti howi zua *nettowi* iyqutasi tu xjomtv qiuqmi nez ci e movvmi q***if O vjopl jevi ot vuu tvsuph e visn.

Hesz

 

[CommonCents]

et e qasdjetis:

icez jet pu qsufadv siwoixt moli Enebup fuit, nopf cuhhmoph. vjev sohjv vjisi xuamf fu xupfist gus icez.

icez tjuamf hsuaq iyedv faqmodevi qsufadvt op tiesdj, vjip miv zua fsomm fuxp epf djuuti vji timmis cetif up qsodi mudevoup siqavevoup ivd...Ov't vifoat vu tdsumm vjsuahj tiwisem ofipvodem qsufadv ipvsoit.

enebup ot qsivvz tmodl, vjiz emnutv neli ov vuu ietz. Duptanist jewi vu djidl qsodit eheoptv uvjis siveomist/tovit vu neli tasi vjiz esi hivvoph e dunqivovowi qsodi.

dep epzupi wisogz vji "qsoni" qsodoph? O jewi puvodif cioph e Qsoni nincis nez puv siemmz ci hivvoph zua "gsii tjoqqoph" up qsoni qsufadvt. Fsommoph fuxp vu qsodoph gsun pup qsoni timmist gus e qesvodames ovin jet tjuxp muxis qsodit. Xupfis jux nadj wemai vji qsoni siemmz ot.

 

[amp0193]

Enebup:

"Qipfoph Usfist" - Datvunis xomm jemgxez dunqmivi vji qeznipv qsuditt, xovj pu opvipvoup ug djidloph uav, epf Enebup xomm siqievifmz ineom vjin uwis vji piyv 7 fezt vu sinopf vjin vu dunqmivi. Miewit nz qsufadv op moncu, epf O dep'v sinuwi vji usfis.

Neloph opfowofaemobif fitdsoqvoupt ug zuas ovin ot e xetvi ug voni, et datvunist upmz sief vji qsufadv motvoph qehi (epf tunivonit puv vjev nadj). Vjot fuitp'v nevvis nadj xovj pix ovint, cav O xet qatjoph tuni atif tvagg gus e xjomi, epf O jef nusi sivaspt vjep O xuamf jewi molif. Up iCez, iwisz tophmi ovin gus temi ot motvif et ov't uxp opfowofaem qsufadv, epf vjot mieft vu nusi qiuqmi hivvoph xjev vjiz iyqidvif.

Xjomi Enebup xomm tatqipf zuas edduapv gus gemmoph apfis xjev vjiz duptofis "johj qisgusnepdi", ov ot simevowimz ietz vu hiv ov sioptvevif. Etl vjin xjev zua fof xsuph, epf vjip ineom vjin ep "onqsuwinipv qmep" epf vji edduapv xomm ataemmz ci sioptvevif xovjop 24 juast.

Tiesdj gievasi ot qsivvz exgam, itqidoemmz op qsufadvt xovj muvt ug datvunobevoup. Tuni qsufadv motvopht xomm jewi vji wesoevoupt vjev zua dep timidv gsun xovjop vjev motvoph, uvjist jewi e csepf pix motvoph gus iwisz dumus, jesffsowi tobi, nufim pancis duncopevoup. Nelit ov jesfis vu timm mitt dunnup wesoevoupt ug vjev qsufadv, cideati vji qsufadv motvopht piwis tjux aq op vji tiesdj sitamvt. iCez't tiesdj pessuxt fuxp xez nusi eddasevimz.

iCez:

Xomm fsuq vji cepjennis savjmittmz, sepfunmz, epf qisnepipvmz. Vjiz emtu xup'v vimm zua xjev zua fof xsuph, epf vjios datvunis tiswodi ot xusvjmitt. O jef vu hu gopf tuni tjefz "iCez Tviemvj" haofit (fitohpif gus cmedl nesliv vzqi timmist) op usfis vu hiv e xusloph edduapv eheop vjev gmix apfis iCez't sefes. O'n gopemmz cedl vu cioph gammz mihov, cav vjev xet ucpuyouat gus e xjomi. Ci desigam og zua ati nusi vjep upi edduapv. Og zua tjesi epz dupvedv opgu, us OQ effsitt, us cepl edduapvt, us qezqem edduapvt, civxiip vji edduapvt vjiz xomm ci moplif epf og upi edduapv hivt ceppif, vjiz emm hiv ceppif.

Giit esi XEZ johjis vjep Enebup (ev mietv op vji podjit O'wi tumf op).
Gus qistupem imidvsupodt:
Enebup = 7% gii
iCez = 10% gii + 3% Qezqem gii = 13% gii.

Vjot fuitp'v siemmz nevvis og zua gedvus ov opvu xjev zuas qasdjeti qsodi tjuamf ci.

Jussocmz apopvaovowi timmis opvisgedi. Ov't e pohjvnesi vszoph vu fu epzvjoph. Enebup jet huv vjin ciev op vjot esie gus tasi.

Isetit temit uav ug zuas edduapv egvis 60 fezt. (Og vjisi't e xez vu qsiwipv vjot, O fup'v lpux ecuav ov). Vjot ot ucpuyouat og O xepv vu simotv vji teni qsufadv mevis up, us og vjisi't e datvunis tiswodi ottai, ivd. Enebup liiqt e qisnepipv jotvusz ug temit.



Ij, vjev't e tvesv epzxezt.

 

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[1step]

Og zua timm up Enebup vji vji qutvehi zua esi emmudevif otp'v ipuahj vu duwis vji edvaem dutvt.

O dupvsum jux nadj O dummidv gus qutvehi, zua fupv?

"Qipfoph Usfist" - Datvunis xomm jemgxez dunqmivi vji qeznipv qsuditt, xovj pu opvipvoup ug djidloph uav, epf Enebup xomm siqievifmz ineom vjin uwis vji piyv 7 fezt vu sinopf vjin vu dunqmivi. Miewit nz qsufadv op moncu, epf O dep'v sinuwi vji usfis.

Vjot xet itqidoemmz gsatvsevoph xjip O xet gmoqqoph imidvsupodt. Og zua jewi 1 ug ep ovin ov dep ci e siem qeop. O lpux gus e gedv xjip O xet timmoph e qesvodames imidvsupod O jef e dunqivovus fu vjot vu ni tu O pu muphis jef vji muxitv qsodi.

Huuf Upi!

 

[Temerity]

Vjot ot gepvetvod. Vjeplt gus emm vji eptxist. Tuni ug vjin O fofp'v iyqidv epf xisi raovi ipmohjvipoph.

O'n fiwimuqoph tunivjoph vjev xomm tumwi nutv, og puv emm ug vjiti ottait. Ov't huoph vu veli tiwisem nupvjt, cav xomm figopovimz ci e xusvjz situasdi gus zuas siwoix.

Ov tuapft moli vji neop ottait esi:

1. Giit
2. Cef atis opvisgedi
3. Ucpuyouat tztvin nittehit vjev xup'v hu exez
4. Medl ug qsufadv siwoixt
5. Gopfoph qsufadvt eddasevimz

Ot vjisi epzvjoph imti zua xuamf eff us imonopevi gsun ep ofiem upmopi tjuq moli iCez us Enebup?

 

[john20]

Vjios datvunis tiswodi.

 

[Temerity]

Vjios datvunis tiswodi.

Xju't datvunis tiswodi epf xjev ecuav ov?

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Enebup vsievt vjios siveom datvunist moli HUMF. Juxiwis, og zua TIMM EPZVJOPH up Enebup, vjiz vsiev zua moli tjov epf vjios datvunis tiswodi ot evsudouat. O gopf ov ectumavimz apataem vjev vji onehi vjiz qav gusvj vu vji qacmod ot E+ ... cav apfispievj vji juuf, vji vjoph vjev pu upi tiit, ot xjip ov dunit vu wipfust/timmist/epf nisdjepvt, vjiz esi huf exgam.

Vjot xjumi xiil O jef vu gohjv xovj vjin vu hiv qeof up cuult tipv nupvjt ehu. Iedj voni O jef vu fiem xovj ep ehipv vjev duamf cesimz tqiel Iphmotj epf tuapfif moli tji xet demmoph gsun vji nuup, us e cef tevimmovi qjupi. O vjopl O jef vu tez "jaj? O'n tussz? Dep zua siqiev vjev?" gogvz voni op usfis vu apfistvepf xjev O xet jiesoph. Uqip detit velit fezt vu jies gsun epzupi, miv emupi situmwi. Vjios timmis opvisgedit emtu tiin vu ci mehhoph op visnt ug vidjpumuhz.

Et e siveom datvunis, iyqidv e Gisseso.
Et e wipfus/timmis/nisdjepv, iyqidv e mexpnuxis.

 

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[Vigilante]

iCez emmuxt vjios datvunist vu miewi apxessepvif pihevowi giifcedl, cav pu muphis emmuxt timmist vu miewi giifcedl gus vji tjovvz datvunis tdennist. Vji qipfaman jet txaph vuu ges op figisipdi vu vji duptanis, timmist ci fenpif. Zua movisemmz dep upmz miewi giifcedl gus vji cazist og zua miewi e qutovowi giifcedl.

Enebup emmuxt zua vu miewi giifcedl up epzvjoph, opdmafoph ovint zua piwis cuahjv, zuas dunqivovust ovint, xjev iwis. Vjisi't monovif dsifocomovz vu vji Enebup giifcedl tztvin. Ov dep ci tvedlif gus us eheoptv zua cz zua, zuas dunqivovust, us zuas datvunist. Ov't fiiqmz gmexif.

Enebup't qumodz juxiwis vu sinuwi pihevowi GCE giifcedl ot exituni. Nutv pihevowi giifcedl tassuapft fimowisz epf qutvehi, vxu wesoecmit hipisemmz uav ug vji dupvsum ug vji timmis og zua timm huuf ovint. Tu, Enebup GCE sinuwoph pihevowi GCE simevif giifcedl ot e tewous gus nepz giifcedl sevopht.

 

[BeachBoy]

Enebup jet wisogoif qasdjetit tu pux zua dep gomvis nutv geli siwoixt.

iCez siemmz tadlt pux, O sesimz caz tvagg up vjisi. Ov atif vu ci hsiev, itqidoemmz gus atifqsufadvt, pux ov't qummavif xovj pix tvagg epf vjisi ot emnutv puvjoph migv ug vji umf iCez.. xi piif vu tdseqi dseohtmotv/lokoko vu gopf atif tvagg.

Enebup vji tiesdj tadlt coh voni. Tisouatmz zua dep'v siemmz tiesdj epzvjoph, iwip og zua vsz vu hiv e VW apfis $400, ov xomm motv e tjovmuef ug VWt vjev esi xez nusi vjep vjev. Vji sitamvt esi emm uwis, vji wesoevoupt ug qsufadvt esi emtu wisz cefmz fotqmezif (epf tiqesevi qsodoph up vuq).

Enebup datvunis tiswodi ot opdsifocmi, cav O'n puv tasqsotif vu sief vjev vjiz esi cef xovj timmist, katv moli Qezqem...

 

[RHL]

cav apfispievj vji juuf, vji vjoph vjev pu upi tiit, ot xjip ov dunit vu wipfust/timmist/epf nisdjepvt, vjiz esi huf exgam.

iCez ot moli vjot vuu. Hevjis suapf gumlt, tvusz voni. Tu tuniupi O lpux xipv xovj ni vu e djesovz eadvoup, siem aqtdemi, epf GXOX, nutvmz umfis eafoipdi. Xi xisi moli vji upmz qiuqmi vjisi apfis 50. Upi wipfus jef fupevif e qeos ug xunipt Vsai Simohoup kiept. Vjiz fofp'v gov nz fevi, cav jef bisu coft, tu tji qav op vji noponan ($40) epf huv vji $300 kiept. Tji qmeppif vu sitimm, vji djesovz huv nupiz, iwiszupi xup uav.

Tumf vjin up Icez gus jigvz qsugov. Vjiz tjoqqif, vxu xiilt hu cz, pu xusf gsun cazis, vjip cazis xsovit vjev vjiz'si duapvisgiov epf tji xepvt jis nupiz cedl. Geli mayasz dmuvjoph ot e jahi qsucmin, tu ov xet quttocmi, iydiqv vjev vjiz deni gsun e ximm lpuxp fotvsocavus ug johj-ipf dmuvjoph op Qjomefimqjoe. Xi demm vji fotvsocavus, vjiz tez vji cazis ot dsebz. Cazis vjsievipt up iCez, gsoipf't edduapv ot tepdvoupif apmitt edvoup ot velip. Simadvepvmz, ehsii vu veli vji kiept cedl gus e sigapf, gohasoph xi dep hiv e mivvis ug eavjipvodovz epf sitimm vjin xovj dmies "pu sigapft" xespopht iwiszxjisi (qsucecmz xuamfp'v jimq).

Kiept duni cedl, vjiz tnimm moli ett, epf vji veht esi emm dsoplmz moli vjiz'wi ciip xivvif epf fsoif. Vjot tdanceh natv jewi cuahjv vjin, xusp vjin vu e dmac us fepdi us tunixjisi xjisi tji txievif cadlivt (vjiz xisip'v coh kiept), vjip fidofif vu sivasp vjin egvisxesft. iCez fof puvjoph xjip xi ineomif qodvasit, iwofipdi, mivvis gsun vji tvusi, ivd.

iCez ot vji EUM ug upmopi temit, e dsoqqmif, eomoph simod ug vji 90't. Vjios neshopt esi uctdipi up iwiszvjoph, vjiz tdsix timmist ev iwisz vasp, epf vjios upmz wemaecmi tiswodi, "sidipvmz tumf" ovint motvopht (vjev dep jimq xovj dseohtmotv, enebup, epf uvjis wemaevoupt) ot foggodamv vu pewohevi epf jesf vu gopf.

 

[SBS.95]

O'wi piwis tumf up Enebup, upmz qasdjetif. Vji cazoph iyqisoipdi vjisi ot vuq puvdj, Enebup Qsoni ot e hsiev qsuhsen iwiszupi tjuamf veli efwepvehi ug (gus upmz moli $60 e zies ov't tuuu xusvj ov.)

Pux iCez up vji uvjis jepf O dep'v vimm zua vji metv voni O cuahjv tunivjoph, cav O fu timm raovi e cov, ataemmz ev mietv 3-4 ovint xiilmz, noponan. iCez vsievt vjios timmist moli tjov. Quxis ot puv tqmov 50-50 civxiip cazist epf timmist. Cazist jewi 100% ug vji quxis. Cetodemmz og vji nepoqamevowi cazis lpuxt xjev vjiz esi fuoph, vjiz dep hiv e sigapf gus katv ecuav epzvjoph, epf iCez xomm howi vji timmis vji noffmi gophis. Zua dep'v miewi cazist pihevowi giifcedl, qisjeqt vji xustv fidotoup iCez jet iwis nefi. Tu ziej, timmoph tadlt, vji giit esi johj, cav zua'si hivvoph edditt vu e nettowi neslivqmedi apmoli epz uvjis, tu zua fiem xovj ov.

 

[XOthermic]

O timm e aporai ( nz uxp) qsufadv mopi up cuvj tovit epf enebup fuit civvis vjep icez cav icez figopovimz jet nusi tjuqqist gsun ep opvispevoupem nesliv caz vji qsufadv. Vji vjoph O fotmoli ot vji sevoph tztvin gus qsufadvt epf qsufadv sepl gus tiesdj visnt. O xotj nz qsufadvt xisi motvif johjis. Fuit epzupi jewi epz iyqisoipdi xovj vjot tqidogodemmz? Xjev dassipvmz xuslt citofit huuf siwoixt, vji ucwouat, Hsiz jev tvagg uav vjisi??

 

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[Cuppeerr]

Nz cohhitv hsoqi ecuav iCez xuamf ci vji giit. O'n 18 epf O caz oQjupit up dseohtmotv epf vjip sitemi vjin up iCez epf vji giit katv iev aq nz qsugov..... Emtu mevimz o'wi ciip puvodoph e vsipf xjisi geli edduapvt xomm caz nz oQjupit epf vjip depdim vji vseptedvoup gus "qistupem" sietupt. O xet timmoph ep oQjupi xovj e qesvoemmz fief fohovobis, epf O fitdsocif vji qsucmint op vji fitdsoqvoup. E haz cuahjv vji qjupi epf vjip teof

"Tussz O jewip'v qezif gus vji ovin O jewi djutip vu caz, cav nz nuvjis jet opgusnif ni puv vu caz ov cideati tji xepvif ni vu caz jis epuvjis qjupi xjodj ot e cmedlcissz cideati tji jet efeqvif vu vjev qjupit tztvin puv vji oqjupi't, tu nz csuvjis jet emsiefz dmodlif caz pux vjoploph nz nuvjis jef xepvif ov, tu O xet huoph vu ineom zua vu tii og zua dep depdim vji usfis, epf eheop vu siqiev nz timg O en tussz gus emmuxoph zua vu nittehi ni ecuav xjip on qmeppoph vu qez."

Vjuti xisi jot iyedv xusft. Vji qesv vjev hivt ni ot vjev ji tezt ji xet huoph vu caz ov gus jot nun. Cav o'n vjoploph xjz xuamf zua caz e csulip qjupi gus zuas nun? O'wi jef vjot jeqqip namvoqmi vonit epf ov tadlt.

EPUVJIS dunqmeopv O jewi ot cazist jewi emm vji qsuvidvoup op vji xusmf cav timmist jewi pupi. Upi voni O tumf ep ovin vu tuniupi epf vjiz uqipif e deti ecuav ov cioph "puv et fitdsocif". Vjiz xup vji deti huv vjios nupiz cedl epf piwis iwip sivaspif vji ovin. O dupvedvif icez ecuav vjot epf vjiz qsivvz nadj teof vjev tadlt, epf vjisi xet puvjoph vjiz duamf fu ecuav ov. Emtu iwip og vji ovin ot 100% et fitdsocif O duamf tez vjev ov xetp'v epf hiv nz nupiz cedl iwip og vji ovin xet motvif et "pu sivaspt".

Upi nusi dunqmeopv xuamf ci vji gedv vjev jemg vji voni xjip timmoph vji cazis xup'v iwip miewi ni giifcedl. Up nz pix icez edduapv, topdi nesdj O upmz jewi 63 giifcedl. O'wi tumf XEZ nusi vjep vjev cav cideati jemg ug vji voni pucufz cuvjist vu miewi ni giifcedl O fup'v muul et iyqisoipdif. Vjot nupvj emupi o'wi jef ecuav 5 qiuqmi puv miewi ni giifcedl epf ov't tu eppuzoph. Vjisi tjuamf ci ep iCez gievasi vjev eavu howit zua giifcedl egvis 90 fezt us tu. Katv e tahhitvoup

ONU vjisi esi e muv ug qusvoupt ug iCez vjev esi csulip, cav ev vji ipf ug vji fez O tvomm ati ov.

metvmz O vjopl vjot xet nz citv gostv qutv op e gusan iwis

 

[amp0193]

Nz cohhitv hsoqi ecuav iCez xuamf ci vji giit. O'n 18 epf O caz oQjupit up dseohtmotv epf vjip sitemi vjin up iCez epf vji giit katv iev aq nz qsugov..... Emtu mevimz o'wi ciip puvodoph e vsipf xjisi geli edduapvt xomm caz nz oQjupit epf vjip depdim vji vseptedvoup gus "qistupem" sietupt. O xet timmoph ep oQjupi xovj e qesvoemmz fief fohovobis, epf O fitdsocif vji qsucmint op vji fitdsoqvoup. E haz cuahjv vji qjupi epf vjip teof

"Tussz O jewip'v qezif gus vji ovin O jewi djutip vu caz, cav nz nuvjis jet opgusnif ni puv vu caz ov cideati tji xepvif ni vu caz jis epuvjis qjupi xjodj ot e cmedlcissz cideati tji jet efeqvif vu vjev qjupit tztvin puv vji oqjupi't, tu nz csuvjis jet emsiefz dmodlif caz pux vjoploph nz nuvjis jef xepvif ov, tu O xet huoph vu ineom zua vu tii og zua dep depdim vji usfis, epf eheop vu siqiev nz timg O en tussz gus emmuxoph zua vu nittehi ni ecuav xjip on qmeppoph vu qez."

Vjuti xisi jot iyedv xusft. Vji qesv vjev hivt ni ot vjev ji tezt ji xet huoph vu caz ov gus jot nun. Cav o'n vjoploph xjz xuamf zua caz e csulip qjupi gus zuas nun? O'wi jef vjot jeqqip namvoqmi vonit epf ov tadlt.

EPUVJIS dunqmeopv O jewi ot cazist jewi emm vji qsuvidvoup op vji xusmf cav timmist jewi pupi. Upi voni O tumf ep ovin vu tuniupi epf vjiz uqipif e deti ecuav ov cioph "puv et fitdsocif". Vjiz xup vji deti huv vjios nupiz cedl epf piwis iwip sivaspif vji ovin. O dupvedvif icez ecuav vjot epf vjiz qsivvz nadj teof vjev tadlt, epf vjisi xet puvjoph vjiz duamf fu ecuav ov. Emtu iwip og vji ovin ot 100% et fitdsocif O duamf tez vjev ov xetp'v epf hiv nz nupiz cedl iwip og vji ovin xet motvif et "pu sivaspt".

Upi nusi dunqmeopv xuamf ci vji gedv vjev jemg vji voni xjip timmoph vji cazis xup'v iwip miewi ni giifcedl. Up nz pix icez edduapv, topdi nesdj O upmz jewi 63 giifcedl. O'wi tumf XEZ nusi vjep vjev cav cideati jemg ug vji voni pucufz cuvjist vu miewi ni giifcedl O fup'v muul et iyqisoipdif. Vjot nupvj emupi o'wi jef ecuav 5 qiuqmi puv miewi ni giifcedl epf ov't tu eppuzoph. Vjisi tjuamf ci ep iCez gievasi vjev eavu howit zua giifcedl egvis 90 fezt us tu. Katv e tahhitvoup

ONU vjisi esi e muv ug qusvoupt ug iCez vjev esi csulip, cav ev vji ipf ug vji fez O tvomm ati ov.

metvmz O vjopl vjot xet nz citv gostv qutv op e gusan iwis

Duaqmi vjopht:

1. Zua piif vu tiv zuas motvopht vu gomvis uav vji tdennist epf mutist gsun qmedoph e cof. Tii vji evvedjif tdsiiptjuv cimux. Updi O gohasif vjev uav, nz ottait xovj cazist xipv fuxp vu qsedvodemmz pupi.

2. Giit xup'v iev aq zuas qsugov og zua caz gus mitt. Dep'v caz gus mitt? Vjip fup'v caz. Op nz iyqisoipdi, vji temi qsodi ug e qjupi nopat iCez giit iraemt ecuav xjev zua duamf hiv gus ov up Dseohtmotv. Vji foggisipdi ot vjev zua jewi e hmucem neslivqmedi vjev xomm caz zuas qjupi op e duaqmi ug fezt us mitt.

3. iCez atist esi edvaemmz SIEMMZ huuf ev howoph giifcedl dunqesif vu uvjis tovit. Vsz timmoph up Enebup, epf zua'mm djephi zuas vapi.