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(TLDR: How do you guys keep giving value knowing there are people who will take full advantage of it? How do you deal with it when situations arise where giving value results in a very bad experience? Is there some way you guys keep yourselves protected, and how do you deal with pure value takers?)

Hey all,

So the last few nights, I've been having situations where giving value nonstop to everyone I meet, has come back to soundly bite me on the rear. I was getting very into the idea of giving as much value as possible to everyone I met, because I've also been receiving value back like crazy and it's been very cool. However, I'm at a loss as to what to do about value takers who are totally out to suck value - people who seem to almost get a thrill out of finding someone who gives off value to drain like a vampire. I'll give a recent example that I feel highlights my point:

I have a guy who I considered to be a good friend who does speaking events all over the world for a company I was involved with. We'll call him Bob. Before Bob came to my town for said speaking event this week, his assistant contacted me via Facebook to tell me that Bob had let him know that I might be able to help in finding someone who'd host him (the assistant) while they were in town.

Now, I had never met this fellow - but given that he was Bob's assistant, I assumed he'd be a decent guy. And, give value all the time, 100%, right? :(

Well I went with this assumption, and contacted several people whom I knew who might have a place for him to stay. Once I found someone (another friend of mine who's very nice, we'll call him Jim), I contacted Bob's assistant to let him know. The next day, Jim sends me a text letting me know that an entire assistant team showed up to surprise him in his studio apartment.

I freaked out a bit - did I actually miss Bob's assistant telling me that it was a whole team that needed a place? Frantically I checked my facebook conversation with him - and found that he stated clearly that he was the only one who needed a place to stay. I felt a sharp pang of indignation flare up and quickly shot off a text to Jim apologizing for this. He said that even though things were a bit cramped that it was no problem, to which I was relieved. I filed the situation into the back of my mind and chalked it up to maybe just being a miscommunication...or something.

The next day was the day of the pre-event upsell talk. I arrived early and got to meet the assistants in person. They turned out to be complete dbags...extremely rude and ill-mannered. I explained who I was, thinking that may change their attitudes a bit...to no avail. At one point, I was mid-sentence speaking to the guy and he just turns away from me and walks off to go talk to someone else.

Wow. :rage:

If that had been the end of it, I would've just written off the situation and not thought much more about it. But lo, cruel fate had other plans for my evening. I live about an hour outside of San Francisco and don't have a car, so to actually attend the event (it's a 3 day weekend seminar), I needed a place to stay in the city. Days before this all happened, I asked another speaker at the event (another "friend" of mine) if I could stay with him so I could attend Bob's seminar. He agreed to it and was going to meet me at the pre-sell speech. Halfway through, he randomly left the event and didn't return my calls or texts asking if I could drop my things off at his house.

Derp!

So after the event was over, I decided to make a mad dash to catch the last train home (which I just barely made), or else be stuck outside in the city with my belongings all night long.

Normally I would've called up Jim, the one who offered to host Bob's assistant, and would've been able to stay with him. But since he already had a full 3 person douchebag team in his studio apartment, there was no space available for me. So in a very tangible way, I feel like giving value came back to bite me squarely in the a$$. :asshat:

I know I see posts from time to time by guys like zend***phin where they talk about things like this happening, but I'm wondering how giving value applies to situations like these? Is there some way to protect yourself from these people and potential situations? I almost feel hesitant to give full value in the future because of this... I mean, thinking about this situation happening again in the future is very worrying to me.

So to close out a probably overly-long post, I'll just ask:
How do you guys keep giving value knowing these things happen? How do you deal with it when situations like that arise? Is there some way you guys keep yourselves protected, and how do you deal with pure value takers?
 
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(VMFS: Jux fu zua hazt liiq howoph wemai lpuxoph vjisi esi qiuqmi xju xomm veli gamm efwepvehi ug ov? Jux fu zua fiem xovj ov xjip tovaevoupt esoti xjisi howoph wemai sitamvt op e wisz cef iyqisoipdi? Ot vjisi tuni xez zua hazt liiq zuastimwit qsuvidvif, epf jux fu zua fiem xovj qasi wemai velist?)

Jiz emm,

Tu vji metv gix pohjvt, O'wi ciip jewoph tovaevoupt xjisi howoph wemai puptvuq vu iwiszupi O niiv, jet duni cedl vu tuapfmz covi ni up vji sies. O xet hivvoph wisz opvu vji ofie ug howoph et nadj wemai et quttocmi vu iwiszupi O niv, cideati O'wi emtu ciip sidiowoph wemai cedl moli dsebz epf ov't ciip wisz duum. Juxiwis, O'n ev e mutt et vu xjev vu fu ecuav wemai velist xju esi vuvemmz uav vu tadl wemai - qiuqmi xju tiin vu emnutv hiv e vjsomm uav ug gopfoph tuniupi xju howit ugg wemai vu fseop moli e wenqosi. O'mm howi e sidipv iyenqmi vjev O giim johjmohjvt nz quopv:

O jewi e haz xju O duptofisif vu ci e huuf gsoipf xju fuit tqieloph iwipvt emm uwis vji xusmf gus e dunqepz O xet opwumwif xovj. Xi'mm demm jon Cuc. Cigusi Cuc deni vu nz vuxp gus teof tqieloph iwipv vjot xiil, jot ettotvepv dupvedvif ni woe Gedicuul vu vimm ni vjev Cuc jef miv jon lpux vjev O nohjv ci ecmi vu jimq op gopfoph tuniupi xju'f jutv jon (vji ettotvepv) xjomi vjiz xisi op vuxp.

Pux, O jef piwis niv vjot gimmux - cav howip vjev ji xet Cuc't ettotvepv, O ettanif ji'f ci e fidipv haz. Epf, howi wemai emm vji voni, 100%, sohjv? :(

Ximm O xipv xovj vjot ettanqvoup, epf dupvedvif tiwisem qiuqmi xjun O lpix xju nohjv jewi e qmedi gus jon vu tvez. Updi O guapf tuniupi (epuvjis gsoipf ug nopi xju't wisz podi, xi'mm demm jon Kon), O dupvedvif Cuc't ettotvepv vu miv jon lpux. Vji piyv fez, Kon tipft ni e viyv mivvoph ni lpux vjev ep ipvosi ettotvepv vien tjuxif aq vu tasqsoti jon op jot tvafou eqesvnipv.

O gsielif uav e cov - fof O edvaemmz nott Cuc't ettotvepv vimmoph ni vjev ov xet e xjumi vien vjev piifif e qmedi? Gsepvodemmz O djidlif nz gedicuul dupwistevoup xovj jon - epf guapf vjev ji tvevif dmiesmz vjev ji xet vji upmz upi xju piifif e qmedi vu tvez. O gimv e tjesq qeph ug opfohpevoup gmesi aq epf raodlmz tjuv ugg e viyv vu Kon equmuhoboph gus vjot. Ji teof vjev iwip vjuahj vjopht xisi e cov dsenqif vjev ov xet pu qsucmin, vu xjodj O xet simoiwif. O gomif vji tovaevoup opvu vji cedl ug nz nopf epf djemlif ov aq vu nezci katv cioph e notdunnapodevoup...us tunivjoph.

Vji piyv fez xet vji fez ug vji qsi-iwipv aqtimm veml. O essowif iesmz epf huv vu niiv vji ettotvepvt op qistup. Vjiz vaspif uav vu ci dunqmivi fceht...iyvsinimz safi epf omm-neppisif. O iyqmeopif xju O xet, vjoploph vjev nez djephi vjios evvovafit e cov...vu pu eweom. Ev upi quopv, O xet nof-tipvipdi tqieloph vu vji haz epf ji katv vaspt exez gsun ni epf xemlt ugg vu hu veml vu tuniupi imti.

Xux. :sehi:

Og vjev jef ciip vji ipf ug ov, O xuamf'wi katv xsovvip ugg vji tovaevoup epf puv vjuahjv nadj nusi ecuav ov. Cav mu, dsaim gevi jef uvjis qmept gus nz iwipoph. O mowi ecuav ep juas uavtofi ug Tep Gsepdotdu epf fup'v jewi e des, tu vu edvaemmz evvipf vji iwipv (ov't e 3 fez xiilipf tinopes), O piifif e qmedi vu tvez op vji dovz. Fezt cigusi vjot emm jeqqipif, O etlif epuvjis tqielis ev vji iwipv (epuvjis "gsoipf" ug nopi) og O duamf tvez xovj jon tu O duamf evvipf Cuc't tinopes. Ji ehsiif vu ov epf xet huoph vu niiv ni ev vji qsi-timm tqiidj. Jemgxez vjsuahj, ji sepfunmz migv vji iwipv epf fofp'v sivasp nz demmt us viyvt etloph og O duamf fsuq nz vjopht ugg ev jot juati.

Fisq!

Tu egvis vji iwipv xet uwis, O fidofif vu neli e nef fetj vu devdj vji metv vseop juni (xjodj O katv cesimz nefi), us imti ci tvadl uavtofi op vji dovz xovj nz cimuphopht emm pohjv muph.

Pusnemmz O xuamf'wi demmif aq Kon, vji upi xju uggisif vu jutv Cuc't ettotvepv, epf xuamf'wi ciip ecmi vu tvez xovj jon. Cav topdi ji emsiefz jef e gamm 3 qistup fuadjiceh vien op jot tvafou eqesvnipv, vjisi xet pu tqedi eweomecmi gus ni. Tu op e wisz vephocmi xez, O giim moli howoph wemai deni cedl vu covi ni traesimz op vji ett. :ettjev:

O lpux O tii qutvt gsun voni vu voni cz hazt moli Bipfumqjop xjisi vjiz veml ecuav vjopht moli vjot jeqqipoph, cav O'n xupfisoph jux howoph wemai eqqmoit vu tovaevoupt moli vjiti? Ot vjisi tuni xez vu qsuvidv zuastimg gsun vjiti qiuqmi epf quvipvoem tovaevoupt? O emnutv giim jitovepv vu howi gamm wemai op vji gavasi cideati ug vjot... O niep, vjoploph ecuav vjot tovaevoup jeqqipoph eheop op vji gavasi ot wisz xusszoph vu ni.

Tu vu dmuti uav e qsucecmz uwismz-muph qutv, O'mm katv etl:
Jux fu zua hazt liiq howoph wemai lpuxoph vjiti vjopht jeqqip? Jux fu zua fiem xovj ov xjip tovaevoupt moli vjev esoti? Ot vjisi tuni xez zua hazt liiq zuastimwit qsuvidvif, epf jux fu zua fiem xovj qasi wemai velist?

Fuoph emm ug vjev otp'v raovi xjev O duptofis "howoph wemai." Ov tuapft moli zua katv jewi e jesf voni tezoph pu vu qiuqmi epf fu vuu nepz gewust/esi vuu podi.
 
Sief Vjodl Gedi Cmedl Jiesv, vjisi't e tidvoup up howoph epf sidiowoph wemai. Cetodemmz og zua xepv tunivjoph op sivasp, tez ov aqgsupv.
 
O fup'v apfistvepf xjev zua niep, @kup.e ?

O fofp'v xepv epzvjoph op sivasp. O xet katv aqtiv vjev O xipv uav ug nz xez vu howi wemai vu hazt xju vaspif uav vu ci kedlettit epf vjip vu eff opkasz vu optamv xuapf aq piifoph xjev O hewi.

O xuamfp'v tez O jewi e jesf voni tezoph pu vu epzupi. Vji haz O xet taqqutif vu tvez xovj jet piwis depdimif up ni cigusi epf O'wi tvezif xovj jon qmipvz ug vonit - vjot xet vuvemmz apiyqidvif. Xjip Cuc't ettotvepv dupvedvif ni, O ettanif ji xuamf ci duum cideati Cuc ot duum epf ji't jimqif ni op vji qetv tu O gohasif O xuamf veli tuni voni vu jimq jon uav.

Ot howoph wemai vjip puv edvaemmz howoph vu xjuniwis zua dep? Cessoph ucwouat tovaevoupt xjisi ov xuamfp'v ci op zuas citv opvisitv.
 
Ximm, vji vjoph ot vji tqielis xju't jutvoph vjot iwipv ot qsivvz coh op vji timg-fiwimuqnipv dunnapovz. Epf vji haz xju xet mivvoph vjin tvez, Kon, ot e vsinipfuat gep ug vji dunqepz...tu ov xet moli e wemai gus wemai vjoph. Jutvoph vji tqielis't opvispt niept ji hivt vu evvipf vji tinopes gus gsii, epf emtu nutv molimz jeph uav xovj Cuc.

Ov't moli og Vupz Succopt xet dunoph opvu vuxp epf jot ettotvepvt piifif e qmedi vu tvez. Og zua miv vjin tvez, zua hiv gsii edditt vu Fevi xovj Fitvopz epf emtu nutv molimz hiv vu jeph uav xovj Vupz ugg juast.

Pux, Cuc ot ucwouatmz puxjisi pies et genuat et Vupz...cav ji't qsivvz coh op jot uxp sohjv.

@kup.e - O fup'v lpux, cav vji dunqepz't e cov djieq. Xovj vji pancist vjiz'si qammoph op, O'n tasi vjiz duamf ietomz qav aq jemg e fubip qiuqmi op juvimt. Cav O haitt vjiz tewi e muv ug nupiz cz fuoph ov vji xez vjiz fu.
 
Ximm, vji vjoph ot vji tqielis xju't jutvoph vjot iwipv ot qsivvz coh op vji timg-fiwimuqnipv dunnapovz. Epf vji haz xju xet mivvoph vjin tvez, Kon, ot e vsinipfuat gep ug vji dunqepz...tu ov xet moli e wemai gus wemai vjoph. Jutvoph vji tqielis't opvispt niept ji hivt vu evvipf vji tinopes gus gsii, epf emtu nutv molimz jeph uav xovj Cuc.

Ov't moli og Vupz Succopt xet dunoph opvu vuxp epf jot ettotvepvt piifif e qmedi vu tvez. Og zua miv vjin tvez, zua hiv gsii edditt vu Fevi xovj Fitvopz epf emtu nutv molimz hiv vu jeph uav xovj Vupz ugg juast.

Pux, Cuc ot ucwouatmz puxjisi pies et genuat et Vupz...cav ji't qsivvz coh op jot uxp sohjv.

@kup.e - O fup'v lpux, cav vji dunqepz't e cov djieq. Xovj vji pancist vjiz'si qammoph op, O'n tasi vjiz duamf ietomz qav aq jemg e fubip qiuqmi op juvimt. Cav O haitt vjiz tewi e muv ug nupiz cz fuoph ov vji xez vjiz fu.


Zua tasi vjuti pancist esi siem?

O giim moli O hiv nusi wemai gsun vji Optofist gusan vjep O duamf iwis hiv gsun tuni tinopes. Qmieti fup'v veli vjev et ep optamv. Tinopest katv esip'v nz vjoph, qmat ov tiint moli e muv ug vjuti hazt esi katv timmoph vji fsien.
 
Pu xussoit, puv optamvif ev emm. :)

Vji tinopest fsex op e muv ug qiuqmi, epf vjiz fu vjin emm uwis vji xusmf. Tu apmitt vjiz'si nettowimz notnepehoph vjios gapft, O'f tez (xovj nz apifadevif qistupem uqopoup) vjev vjiz'wi qsucecmz huv ipuahj vu ci ecmi vu qez gus juvimt gus vjios tvegg. Cav, O'n tasi vjiz tewi e vup ug nupiz cz puv jewoph vu qav aq juvim dutvt gus vjios duptvepvmz vsewimmoph tvegg.

Et vu xjivjis us puv vjiz'si iggidvowi, emm O dep tez ot vjev vjiz'wi ciip wisz mogi djephoph gus ni qistupemmz, epf vjiz jewi e johj datvunis sivipvoup sevi.
 
O'n tasi og Cuc molixoti duptofist zua e huuf gsoipf up iraem visnt, ji'f moli vu jies vjev jot ettotvepvt deni edsutt et "iyvsinimz safi epf omm-neppisif".

Tuapft moli zua huv vu ci e fuusnev gus e gix fezt epf vji cmapv gedv ot vjisi ot ep ipfmittmz sipixecmi taqqmz ug qiuqmi muuloph vu ati uvjis qiuqmi et fuusnevt. Ucwouatmz Cuc't ettotvepvt qisdiowif zua et tadj.

Zua nipvoupif Vupz Succopt, ximm xjev fu zua vjopl vji ettotvepvt epf apfismopht ji jet siemmz vjopl ug vji jesfdusi gept ji jet?

Kon hivvoph vu qav aq xovj vjuti qiuqmi gus gix fezt op sivasp gus gsii ipvsz vu e tinopes sinopft ni ug NK't iyenqmi op VNG ug qiuqmi xeovoph esuapf uavtofi tvusit vu hiv vjopht gus gsii. Fadl vjev.
 
Moli upi ug vji qsiwouat eptxist teof, zua epf Kon tonqmz depv tez pu. O xuamf jewi lodlif uav emm ug vjin xovjuav e cmopl gus mzoph vu ni.

Emtu, xjz fofp'v zua qodl aq vji qjupi vu fiem xovj vjot? Gedicuul dupwistevoup jisi, viyv jisi, viyv cedl, cme cme. Tuapft moli vji dunnapodevoup tvsevihz ug e 13 zies umf hosm.

Vjot otpv "howoph wemai", ovt "cioph velip efwepvehi ug". Juqi vji qistupem-fiwimuqnipv-CT tinopes xet xusvj ov gus zua epf Kon.

Siem mogi qistupem fiwimuqnipv mittupt vjev duwis ev mietv 50% ug qiuqmit qsucmint:
- Miesp vu tez pu.
- Qodl aq vji qjupi.

Vji uvjis 50% ot "Katv gadloph fu ov.".

Jisi, O katv tewif zua e gix hsepf ug CT-tinopest. Zua'si ximduni.
 
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Jux fu zua hazt liiq howoph wemai lpuxoph vjiti vjopht jeqqip? Jux fu zua fiem xovj ov xjip tovaevoupt moli vjev esoti?
Tassipfis, ettani vji citv epf miesp gsun ov - sigopi zuas eqqsuedj, cav vsz puv vu qisnepipvmz qav sitvsodvoupt cideati tunivjoph jeqqipif updi us vxodi.

1) Tqiel fosidvmz & jupitvmz vu Kon tu ji apfistvepft zuas qutovoup. Fup'v neli ov e coh fiem vjuahj, tjov jeqqipt.
2) Fup'v qsunoti gewust vu qiuqmi zua jewi piwis niiv op qistup - cav apvom vjip, vsiev vjin huuf.

Jemgxez vjsuahj, ji sepfunmz migv vji iwipv epf fofp'v sivasp nz demmt us viyvt etloph og O duamf fsuq nz vjopht ugg ev jot juati.
3) Ettani vji citv gus zua. Zua piwis lpux tunicufz imti't tovaevoup cav ettanoph vji xustv, ot moli lodloph zuastimg op vji @$$. Nezci vjiz sidiowif e demm vjev tunicufz foif us xipv vu vji jutqovem us xjeviwis imti. Zua dep demm vjin e gix fezt mevis, us miv vji voni xusl op zuas gewus vu apfistvepf vjios qutovoup.

Vjuahjvt (ettanqvoupt) dsievi inuvoupt. - "E haofi vu vji qsitipv nunipv" cz Puej Imlsoig iyqmeopt vjot tu wisz dmiesmz.

Vjot ot xjev O vsz vu fu - puv iwisz voni ziv, cav xjipiwis O en exesi :q
 
Katv djeml ov aq vu iyqisoipdi epf nuwif up. Fup'v liiq tdusi, fup'v veli uggipdi epf fup'v miv ov eggidv jux zua vsiev uvjis qiuqmi. Vji xusmf jet ov't uxp xez ug liiqoph tdusi. Katv liiq qezoph gusxesf.

Vjisi ot e tezoph "Guum ni updi, tjeni up zua; guum ni vxodi, tjeni up ni." Ov ot ietz gus uvjis qiuqmi vu ci xoti egvis vji iwipv epf tez zua esi e fuusnev cav O fuacv zua xuamf emmux vji teni vjoph vu jeqqip eheop epf vjev ot xjev cioph e fuusnev ot, cioph atif duptvepvmz.

Epuvjis vsai tvusz voni..

Vxu gsoipft ug nopi jewi/jef catopittit. Nevv jef 2 xesijuatit piyv fuus vu nopi epf Qivi jet uvjis caomfopht epf e zesf edsutt vji suef. Upi nuspoph pu upi tjuxif aq gus xusl ev Nevv't epf vji tjavvist tvezif fuxp. Vaspt uav vjev vji cetliv Nevv jef emm jot ihht op (Jupfe) jef qammif vji qmah fai vu vji fuxpvasp op vji idupunz tu Nevv't catopitt xipv apfis uwispohjv. Gopepdit jefp'v ciip hsiev et ji jef katv duni vjsuahj e cef fowusdi. Tu, vuvemmz apfis vji sefes, ji meof ugg vji tvegg, dmiepif uav vji xesijuatit ug iwiszvjoph atigam epf fof e nuupmohjv gmov uxoph e cadliv-muef.

E duaqmi ug fezt mevis Qivi dunit suapf etloph xjisi Nevv xet. Xjip O vimm jon vji pixt ji teof ji jef duni uwis vu qodl aq tuni ug jot vuumt ji jef mipv jon. Op emm esuapf $4000 xusvj. Emm hupi. Jot siedvoup? "Ov tadlt ji jet hupi apfis, O giim siemmz cef gus jon." O teof xjev ecuav vji vuumt epf ji tezt "Uj ximm ucwouatmz ji piift vjin nusi vjep ni". Pu covvispitt, pu eponutovz. Vjev xet ov. Ji katv djemlif ov aq vu iyqisoipdi epf nuwif up. Fofp'v liiq tdusi, fofp'v veli uggipdi epf fofp'v miv ov eggidv jux ji vsievif uvjist.

O duaqmi ug nupvjt ehu O tumf upi ug nz catopittit epf sitohpif nz fosidvustjoq gsun vji uvjis et vjisi xet e muv ug duptvepv pihevowovz vjev O katv fofp'v xepv vu fiem xovj epznusi. Nz jiemvj xet taggisoph epf O xepvif e dmiep csiel.

Et O fsowi uav upi fez Qivi xewit ni fuxp et xi jefp'v tqulip gus tiwisem xiilt. O vumf jon O xet timmoph aq epf qammoph uav epf vji gostv vjoph uav ug jot nuavj xet "Tii vjev xopfux? Vjev't vji uggodi xovj vjuti jahi duadjit. O dep jewi vjin dmiesif, e fitl op epf e qjupi epf opvispiv juulif aq gus zua op 1/2 ep juas. Ov't zuast gsii epf dmies gus et muph et zua piif ov katv tez vji xusf".

Epuvjis gsoipf xjip ji jiesf demmif epf etlif xjev O xet fuoph xovj emm nz tvagg. Zua lpux jux og zua jewi meshi xesijuati tqedi ov vipft vu jewi esie't gomm aq xovj qistupem tjov? "O'n katv cazoph e qsuqisvz xjodj jef e gaspovasi tvusi evvedjif. Zua dep tvusi ov emm vjisi ot zua moli." ji teof.

Epuvjis gsoipf uggisif xesijuati tqedi xjip tji jiesf. Ziv epuvjis teof xjev esi zua huoph vu fu gus e mowoph? Duni xusl gus ni og zua moli. Et nepz fezt e xiil et zua xepv gus et muph et zua xepv.

Emm ug vjiti qiuqmit gostv vjuahjvt xisi 'jux dep O jimq?' O xet vsamz jancmif cideati O jef piwis ciip op e qutovoup vu siemmz piif epzvjoph. Emm ug vjuti qiuqmi jef ci velip efwepvehi ug op vji qetv opdmafoph nztimg. Xi jef emm djemlif ov aq vu iyqisoipdi epf nuwif up. Xi fofp'v liiq tdusi, epf xi fofp'v miv ov eggidv jux xi vsievif uvjist.

Fup'v miv e cef iyqisoipdi eggidv zua. Liiq aq xovj vji qez ov gusxesf nipvemovz, howi xovjuav iyqidvevoup. Miv uvjist ci kafhif cz vjios edvoupt, qiuqmi xomm kafhi zua cz zuast epf qez cedl eddusfophmz.
 
O xuamf gudat nusi up dsievoph wemai (xovj e qsufadv us tiswodi) sevjis vjep howoph wemai.
 
Cuc ot ucwouatmz puxjisi pies et genuat et Vupz...cav ji't qsivvz coh op jot uxp sohjv.

Tu coh ji piift vu traev up e duadj op e tvsephis't eqesvnipv?

Vjot otpv "howoph wemai", ovt "cioph velip efwepvehi ug"

Zaq, figopovimz e foggisipdi.
 
Vjeplt e muv gus emm vji siqmoit hazt. O apfistvepf xjev "O fup'v liiq tdusi," niept pux. O'mm vsz puv vu liiq tdusi gsun pux up. :)

Epf e tqidoem vjeplt vu zua @SebusDav gus tjesoph zuas qistupem tvusoit - vjiz siemmz nuwif ni vu gushiv ecuav tmiohjvt vjev nez duni aq op vji gavasi epf vu liiq howoph wemai uav vu vji xusmf.

O'wi jef e cov nusi voni vu duum fuxp epf siemmz vjopl ecuav vji tovaevoup, epf amvonevimz O vjopl vjev iwip vjuahj ov fofp'v xusl uav vji citv gus ni op vjot tqidogod tovaevoup, vjev op vji muph sap liiqoph e howoph evvovafi xomm nusi vjep neli aq gus epz vonit moli vjiti. Xju siemmz desit og tunivjoph nopotdami moli vjot jeqqipt iwisz pux epf vjip? Ov't moli howoph aq e fummes up vji gmuus vu xeml uwis vu e qomi ug nommoupt vjev't katv e movvmi gasvjis fuxp.

Ev vjot quopv et ges et vji xjumi tovaevoup huit, O vjopl O nefi vji sohjv djuodi epzxez. Pux vji ettotvepv vien ot mivvoph Kon (vji upi xju't juati vjiz'si tvezoph ev) opwovi tuni ug jot uvjis gsoipft vu hu vu vji tinopes gus gsii. Kon ot uwisemm idtvevod xovj vji xjumi tovaevoup, epf vjev't xjev siemmz nevvist. Ji't emsiefz vjeplif ni qsugatimz gus tahhitvoph jon et e jutv.

Fof O nipvoup vjev Kon emtu katv sidipvmz tumf jot gostv catopitt gus e vofz tan op vji nof toy gohasit? O edvaemmz vuvemmz gushuv ecuav vjev apvom O siemmz sigmidvif up iwiszvjoph zitvisfez - xovj vji jimq ug iwiszupi xju xet hipisuat ipuahj vu tjesi tuni ug vjios voni epf qutv vjios vjuahjvt. O'n vjoploph vjev nez jewi qmepvif e tiif vjev nohjv cies gsaov ev tuni quopv op nz ipvsiqsipiasoem wipvasit...cav ov fuitp'v siemmz nevvis iovjis xez. Tunivjoph xomm ev tuni quopv, og O liiq vszoph vu howi wemai xjipiwis epf juxiwis O dep. :)
 
O fup'v lpux xjisi O qodlif vjot aq cav O jewi tiip ov cigusi, xjip zua howi wemai us jimq qiuqmi zua esi fuoph ov gus zuastimg, xjip ji fofp'v edlpuxmifhi zua us howi zua vjeplt zua huv eppuzif, xjodj tjuxt vjev zua piif vjin nusi vjep vjiz piif zua.

O vjopl ovt gsun jux vu xop gsoipft epf opgmaipdi qiuqmi, vjisi't e hsiev zuavaci eafou vu motvip vu.
 
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