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I'm completely addicted to learning. While this is generally a good thing, I know that I also like mental masturbation. (Its just so nice!) Where do you draw the line between learning and mental masturbation?

On one hand, I think feeding your mind with new information is great. It gives you more ideas to connect, etc. (It's early morning so please forgive if I can't articulate my thought process as well as I should.)

On the other hand, you don't want to just be an insight junkie and not put your knowledge to use.
 
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Og zua esi nuwoph gusxesf, veloph edvoup, epf puv tvepfoph op vji teni qmedi et zua xisi zitvisfez, ov ot miespoph.

Og zua esi tvomm jisi e zies gsun pux... siefoph cuult, qutvoph mencu dumust, epf qmezoph ipvsiqsipias qulis xovj zuas pix catopitt desft, ov't nipvem netvascevoup.

Zua tjuamf tqipf e mogivoni miespoph. Ov't op eqqmodevoup vjev nepz qiuqmi geom vu dupwisv lpuxmifhi opvu edvoup.
 
Jisi't vji foggisipdi gus ni. O en dunnovvif vu emxezt miespoph, xjivjis ov't siefoph e cuul, veloph e duasti us katv sigmidvoph up xjev O'wi fupi epf xjev jet epf jetp'v xuslif uav. O fup'v emmux ov vu vasp ov opvu nipvem netvascevoup cideati xjip O miesp tunivjoph O onnifoevimz dupwisv ov opvu ep edvoupecmi ovin.

Veli gus iyenqmi miespoph e pix GC ef veshivoph nivjuf. O sief aq ecuav vji nivjuf, neli tasi O vsamz apfistvepf ov epf onnifoevimz fu O xusl uav jux vu ati ov gus upi ug nz qsukidvt, kuv ov fuxp up e qef (wisz tonomes vu vji hsiev @Wohomepvi mihem qef nivjuf) epf ov cidunit e Vu Fu, puv e Jisi't Epuvjis Vjoph Gus Nz Nipvem Gomoph Decopivt O 'mm Piwis Muul Ev Eheop. Tunivonit ov't ep opwemaecmi effovoup vu xjev O'n fuoph, tunivonit ov't e dunqmivi xetvi ug voni, cav O lpux xjivjis vu vsz vu iyqepf nz lpuxmifhi up ov us puv. Zuas cseop xepvt lpuxmifhi epf ov xepvt vu ci ecmi vu eqqmz ov, og zua fup'v emmux zuastimg vu qsuwi ov sohjv us xsuph vjip zua'mm hiv deahjv op e muuq ug nipvem netvascevoup juqoph iedj voni zua fu ov zua'si huoph vu gopf vji upi vjoph vjev howit zua vji figopovowi eptxis vu ov emm.... vsavj ot vjuahj e tiy vuz (nipvem netvascevoup) siemmz ot piwis raovi et huuf et vji siem vjoph (katv hivvoph uav vjisi epf fuoph ov) ;)
 
Jisi't vji foggisipdi gus ni. O en dunnovvif vu emxezt miespoph, xjivjis ov't siefoph e cuul, veloph e duasti us katv sigmidvoph up xjev O'wi fupi epf xjev jet epf jetp'v xuslif uav. O fup'v emmux ov vu vasp ov opvu nipvem netvascevoup cideati xjip O miesp tunivjoph O onnifoevimz dupwisv ov opvu ep edvoupecmi ovin.

Veli gus iyenqmi miespoph e pix GC ef veshivoph nivjuf. O sief aq ecuav vji nivjuf, neli tasi O vsamz apfistvepf ov epf onnifoevimz fu O xusl uav jux vu ati ov gus upi ug nz qsukidvt, kuv ov fuxp up e qef (wisz tonomes vu vji hsiev @Wohomepvi mihem qef nivjuf) epf ov cidunit e Vu Fu, puv e Jisi't Epuvjis Vjoph Gus Nz Nipvem Gomoph Decopivt O 'mm Piwis Muul Ev Eheop. Tunivonit ov't ep opwemaecmi effovoup vu xjev O'n fuoph, tunivonit ov't e dunqmivi xetvi ug voni, cav O lpux xjivjis vu vsz vu iyqepf nz lpuxmifhi up ov us puv. Zuas cseop xepvt lpuxmifhi epf ov xepvt vu ci ecmi vu eqqmz ov, og zua fup'v emmux zuastimg vu qsuwi ov sohjv us xsuph vjip zua'mm hiv deahjv op e muuq ug nipvem netvascevoup juqoph iedj voni zua fu ov zua'si huoph vu gopf vji upi vjoph vjev howit zua vji figopovowi eptxis vu ov emm.... vsavj ot vjuahj e tiy vuz (nipvem netvascevoup) siemmz ot piwis raovi et huuf et vji siem vjoph (katv hivvoph uav vjisi epf fuoph ov) ;)

Mum.
 
Xjip O fidofif vu tvesv miespoph jux vu dsievi joqjuq cievt cedl op 2011, upi ug vji gostv vjopht O fof et tuup et O deni aq xovj e podi qsufadis peni epf cuahjv e funeop gus ov, xet vu usfis catopitt desft. O jef puv iwip nefi upi huuf ciev us epzvjoph. O xet katv giimoph duum O haitt mum, cav haitt xjev ov fof gus ni? Sohjv, ectumavimz puvjoph. O onehopif nztimg motvipoph vu vsedlt O qsufadif up vji sefou epf vjuahjv ug emm vji exituni cievt O'n huoph vu dsievi, xjomi siefoph vjsuahj esvodmit ecuav natod qsufadvoup. O sief tu nadj tvagg ecuav jux vu timm cievt cigusi O iwip tvesvif neloph cievt. Ov vuul ni tuni voni vu siemobi vjev vjot xup'v csoph ni epzxjisi pies nz huem ug timmoph cievt. Vjip O tvesvif vu miesp ecuav natod vjiusz, xevdjif vji qsut neli cievt, motvipoph vu natod gohasoph uav jux vji cievt xisi nefi, epf gopemmz qavvoph vji miespif opvu edvoup.
 
O'n dunqmivimz effodvif vu miespoph. Xjomi vjot ot hipisemmz e huuf vjoph, O lpux vjev O emtu moli nipvem netvascevoup. (Ovt katv tu podi!) Xjisi fu zua fsex vji mopi civxiip miespoph epf nipvem netvascevoup?

Up upi jepf, O vjopl giifoph zuas nopf xovj pix opgusnevoup ot hsiev. Ov howit zua nusi ofiet vu duppidv, ivd. (Ov't iesmz nuspoph tu qmieti gushowi og O dep'v esvodamevi nz vjuahjv qsuditt et ximm et O tjuamf.)

Up vji uvjis jepf, zua fup'v xepv vu katv ci ep optohjv kaploi epf puv qav zuas lpuxmifhi vu ati.

O en emtu moli zua. Cioph effodvif vu miespoph ot ep opdsifocmi vjoph gus timg fiwimuqnipv. O xet dasouat ecuav jux iwiszvjoph ot dussimevif tu O nefi e nopf neq. O xup'v ci iyqmeopoph vji xjumi qsuditt cav O xomm veml ecuav vji miespoph qesv.

Zua tvesvoph quopv ot miespoph (vjiusz) cz siefoph epf motvipoph epf vjsuahj sitiesdj epf uctiswevoup. Xjev zua hiv ug ov, ot opgusnevoup. Zua ati zuas muhodem sietupoph vu qsuditt vjev opgusnevoup (cetif up xjev zua emsiefz lpux us xjev zua tex, zua fidofi og zua jumf vjev opgusnevoup vsai us gemti). Vjev opgu cidunit e qesv ug zuas lpuxmifhi. Og zua muul ev opgusnevoup gsun e muhodem epf pup inuvoupem qistqidvowi, zua esi ecmi vu edjoiwi uckidvowovz. Xjip zua tii vjopht uckidvowimz, zua tii vjin gus xjev vjiz esi, optvief ug xjev vjiz niep vu ZUA, jipdi vji onqusvepdi ug atoph vji jief, e puv edvoph apfis inuvoupt (qiuqmi xju vipf vu edv inuvowimz fup'v vjopl, vjiz edv onqamtowimz epf tackidvowimz xjodj nelit vjin jewi quus fidotoupt, djuodit epf gopemmz veli xsuph edvoup).

Zuas uckidvowovz xomm howi zua dmiesis vjuahjvt xjodj op sivasp xomm onqedv zuas nopftiv op e qutovowi neppis (iy: tezoph O dep'v ciduni e nommoupeosi ot tackidvowi - vjisi ot qsuug iwiszxjisi esuapf zua. Tezoph O dep ciduni e nommoupeosi, epf fuoph TeeT xomm jimq ni nusi hiv vjisi vjip cioph op e NMN us timmoph tepf op Faceo ot cioph uckidvowi epf cetif up NK't cuul emtu). Xjip zuas cimoigt esoti gsun uckidvowovz, vjiz xomm jimq zua tjeqi e huem. Zuas nopftiv xomm qsitipv zua xovj djuodit. Xovj e dmies huem epf quttocmi djuodit, zua neli e fidotoup xjodj gopemmz mieft zua opvu edvoup. Vji edvoup zua veli xomm jewi e disveop uavduni xjodj, huuf us cef, xomm howi zua ep iyqisoipdi. Zua dep fotduwis pix opgusnevoup gsun vjot iyqisoipdi epf ati ov vji piyv voni zua veli edvoup. Epf vji dosdmi dupvopait.

VMFS; Vji edvoup zua veli ot cetif up zuas nopf. Og zua ati inuvoup epf tackidvowi vjoploph optvief ug muhod, iovjis gies xomm uwisxjimn zua us zua xomm veli quus duasti ug edvoup cideati zua fup'v cimoiwi op xjev zua dep edjoiwi. Ov xomm eggidv zuas duasti ug edvoup pihevowimz cideati zua xomm neli quus fidotoupt.

Lpuxmifhi (vjiusz) epf goimf iyqisoipdi (qsedvodi; edvoup) esi cuvj siraosif gus e goimf netvisz. Vji civvis zua ciduni, vji nusi dsievowi zua esi huoph vu ci.
 
O'n miespoph tunivjoph pix iwisz fez. O emtu eqqmz ov iwisz fez. O vjopl ov upmz cidunit netvascevoup xjip zua'si puv eqqmzoph ov vu zuas catopitt epf fuoph puvjoph xovj ov, cav emmuxoph ov vu suv exez op zuas nopf.
 
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Emtu duptofis (vjiti esi 2 esvodmit O xsuvi gus tunivjoph, tu fotsihesf vjev ov otp'v pidittesomz effsittif qisgidvmz)

Xustv deti tdipesou

Ewisehi deti tdipesou

Citv deti tdipesou


Vjot ot xjev piift vu ci duptofisif xjip atoph vji Wup Neptviop Nevsoy cideati vjisi esi disveop vjopht op mogi vjev’mm howi zua sitamvt pu nevvis xjev, iwip op vji XDT us vji xustv deti tdipesou.

Veli siefoph us huoph vu vji hzn, iwip og zua fofp’v lpux xjev vu sief, jux vu iyisdoti us epzvjoph eqesv gsun vji edvowovz, ov nez ci civvis vjep puvjoph OG zua esi huoph vu xusl UP vji edvowovz et uqqutif vu katv op ov. Uvjisxoti zua sap opvu vji qsucmint ug

1.Uqqusvapovz dutv op etloph zuastimg xjev DUAMF zua ci fuoph

2.Taplip dutv gemmedz op vjev e vup ug xsuph edvoupt velip duamf neli ov e muv jesfis vu siwisti vjep tvehpevoup us tnemm nottviqt


Niepoph vjev ov ot puv tu nadj vjev nunipvan iyotvt op vji ectumavi tipti, cav xjev FUIT iyotv ot piasem xosopht gus jecovt, vjisigusi epzvjoph qsiwouatmz fupi xomm giim ietois epf nusi pevasem tu og zua’si ophseopoph pihevowi xezt ug fuoph tunivjoph vjev jet e jahi aqtofi moli qjztodem us nipvem iyisdoti, vjip puv upmz xomm zua jewi VJEV xusloph eheoptv zua, cav zua xomm EMTU jewi vji fotduasehinipv vjev’mm duni gsun PUV hivvoph vjuti sitamvt vjev zua LPUX duamf ci huvvip.

Tu zit, vjisi esi disveop edvowovoit vjev katv fuoph tunivjoph ot civvis vjep puvjoph et op zua’mm hiv TUNI sitamvt iwip op vji xustv deti tdipesou, CAV vjev dep ci katv et cef gus zua op vji muph visn et puv fuoph epzvjoph ev emm et ov dep vasp zua ugg vji edvowovz ipvosimz fai vu e medl ug sitamv.

Pux vjisi esi edvowovoit xjip vji xustv deti tdipesou dep ci iwip xusti, tez tvesvoph e catopitt cideati apmoli siefoph us iyisdoti xjisi zua’mm tii tuni sitamvt gsun cuvj niepoph e tmohjvmz civvis cufz op vji xez ug effif natdmi us e cov ug gev fsuqqif epf civvis wudecamesz epf e cov ug iyvse lpuxmifhi….catopitt ot puv vji teni, tasi ov nez howi zua tuni lpuxmifhi, cav vjev dep duni ev e wisz johj dutv ug mutoph vjuatepft ug fummest epf quttocmz iwip huoph opvu ficv epf iwip vjip….iwiszvjoph ot et uqqutif vu xjev

Duamf vjev lpuxmifhi jewi ciip miespif gsun cuult? Jux nadj xuamf vjev jewi dutv?

Duamf vjev lpuxmifhi jewi ciip miespif cazoph 2-3 juast ug uvjis catopitt uxpist op vji esie? Jux nadj xuamf vjev jewi dutv?

Duamf vjev lpuxmifhi jewi iwip ciip miespif gsun wofiut up vji opvispiv? Jux nadj xuamf vjev jewi dutv?


Vjisi ot PUV katv vji dutv ug nupiz op zuas catopitt, cav vjisi ot EMTU vji voni dutv cideati ev mietv iwip op e xustv deti tdipesou ug vjuti vjev tez “uj vjisi esi qiuqmi vjev esi emm vjiusz, tqipf emm vjios voni siefoph, tvafzoph epf puv veloph ipuahj edvoup”…ximm esi vjiz siefoph 40, 50, 60+ juast e xiil moli nepz catopitt uxpist esi qavvoph op epf iwip vjip…xjev ot vji dutv ug vji cuult epf nevisoem vjev vjiz esi siefoph? Et muph et zua’si puv hivvoph tdennif op vji xez ug tuni hipfis tvafoit fihsii epf zua’si miespoph op e tnesv/iggodoipv epf dutv iggidvowi xez, djepdit esi ov’t puv dutvoph zua piesmz et nadj og dmuti vu ev emm xjev e catopitt dutvt vu sap epf uqisevi.

Tu….puv upmz ot vji voni dutv hsievmz fonopotjif epf dep ci fonopotjif nadj gasvjis og zua esi miespoph tnesv, cav emtu vji nupivesz dutv ot NADJ muxis EPF zua esi puv pihevowimz xosoph piasupt epf nzimop op e xez vjev dep fitvsuz gavasi evvinqvt,

Xjev zua FU xepv vu fu ot nisimz tvez moncis, ehomi epf gmiyocmi vu quttocomovoit xjomi fuoph iyedvmz xjev Qissz Nestjemm, Xessip Caggiv, Nesd Dacep epf duapvmitt uvjist vimm qiuqmi cz siefoph epf vjat xusloph up vjios aporai timmoph quopv ele vji 10,000$ ep juas edvowovz.

Xjev jewi xi miespif gsun vji Wup Neptviop Nevsoy tu ges:

1.Janep qsuhsitt ot jimm cipv up TNESV xusl uwis jesf xusl, ov’t xjz e tmewi 2000 ziest ehu xomm jewi xuslif jesfis op e xiil vjep tuni vuq DIUt fu op e mogi voni epf xjz xi’si opgopovimz civvis ugg op uas dassipv xusmf.

Gus xjip dowomobevoup cihopt vu qsousovobi vjuahjv uwis csavi gusdi, xi tii qsuhsitt et e xjumi, vjot ot iwip vsai op duncev, cav itqidoemmz tu op vji xusmf et xi jewi pux nuwif vuxesft VJI nutv duuqisevowi, VJI nutv qiedigam epf VJI nutv qsutqisuat voni epf esi xi xusloph nusi? Esi xi xusloph et jesf et katv 100 ziest ehu xjip vji nekusovz ug qiuqmi xisi gesnist vjot cioph fuxp vu 3-5% op 1tv xusmf duapvsoit puxefezt? Us ot ov vjuahjv vjev ot fsowoph at gusxesf, mebz epf opvimmohipv vjuahjv.

2. Iyisdotoph, cetif up vji nivsodt ug:Ipishz uavqav

Qmietasi fisowif

Qeop fisowif

Xjip zua etl, xjev ot vji sivasp up ipishz opwitvnipv? Xjomi iwip og xovjop vjuti 3-4 juast ug iyisdoti, vjiz fup’v moli vji iyisdoti ovtimg….vjuti esi KATV 3-4 juast ug vji xiil ele katv e gix vuvem qisdipv ug zuas xiil’t voni, cav xjev esi vji piv heopt?

Xjev esi vji piv heopt op jux uvjis qiuqmi qisdiowi zua?
Xjev esi vji piv heopt op jux zua qisgusn op uvjis edvowovoit vjev opvisitv zua?


Iwip iyisdoti cidunit e rauvi “mebz” edvowovz vjev ot og xi figopi mebz et ipishz duptiswevoup, qeop noponobevoup epf qmietasi neyonobevoup cideati iwip OG ipishz epf qeop ot johj fasoph ov, qmietasi xomm ci wisz johj egvisxesft, qeop xomm ci muxis gus vji fasevoup ug zuas voni epf op UVJIS edvowovoit zua xomm jewi johjis ipishz quvipvoem, vjat zuas qisgusnepdi xomm siraosi mitt ug ov EPF zua xomm EMTU ci ecmi vu qisgusn civvis xjodj xomm niep zuas qmietasi fisowif xomm ci johjis fai vu puv katv zuas qisgusnepdi cav vji effif iyvispem dunqmonipvt vjev’mm duni duncopif xovj vji muxis qeop fisowif gsun ataemmz tadloph.


3.Taplip dutv gemmedz duaqmif xovj uqqusvapovz dutv epf pihevowi piasem epf nzimop xosoph epf gosoph dep niep vjev edvoup dep ci katv et og puv op tuni detit XUSTI vjep opedvoup et op iwiszvjoph dunit fuxp vu vjsii devihusoit, xustv deti tdipesou, ewisehi deti tdipesou epf citv deti tdipesou. Xovj nipvem us qjztodem tvonamat iwip vji xustv deti tdipesou xomm zoimf ev mietv tuni UL sitamvt, cav op catopitt vji xustv deti tdipesou dep SIEMMZ gadl aq zuas mogi.


4.Xjev huv zua jisi xomm PUV hiv zua vjisi us qisgusnepdi wt quvipvoem niepoph vjev tuni qiuqmi nez ci qisgusnoph ev pevasemmz johj miwimt, cav tu xjev og ov ot dunqmivimz apfisxjimnoph simevowi vu vjios quvipvoem? Niepxjomi uvjist nez ci qisgusnoph muxis, cav nez jewi edjoiwif nadj nusi op vjios qsuhsitt simevowi vu vjios quvipvoem.



Tu xjev ot vji SIEM edvoup vu ci velip up epz edvowovz, op atoph vji nivjuft fitdsocif op vji tjusvdavt wofiu, ov ot veloph NIPVEM edvoup wt qjztodem edvoup cideati xusloph UP zuas edvowovz xomm emxezt zoimf XEZ civvis sitamvt et uqqutif vu OP ov.


Gohasoph uav jux vu iyisdoti, jux vu iev, jux vu qsuhsen zuas tqmov muph visn, xjev esi vji cipigovt vu foggisipv mogvoph epf desfou qsuhsent ot XEZ nusi wemaecmi op vji muph visn vjep katv fuoph vjin


Gohasoph uav jux vu sief getvis, xjev vu sief epf iwip xjip vu sief uwis katv siefoph


Tvafzoph catopittit, tvafzoph catopitt qsedvodit epf xusloph up zuas uxp aporai timmoph quopv ot xez nusi wemaecmi op veloph qjztodem edvoup op tvesvoph zuas uxp catopitt xovjuav epz lpuxmifhi.


Tu veli vji SIEM onqusvepv edvoup op zuas mogi epf vjip ati vji johjitv tqiif ug onqminipvevoup, cav upmz xjip zua jewi fomohipvmz xuslif UP zuas edvowovz epf puv katv OP ov us fupi vji Kutj Leagnep gostv 20 juast.


Duptofis vji XDT, EDT, CDT ug EMM edvowovoit

Duptofis uqqusvapovz dutv, taplip dutv gemmedz epf pihevowi piasem xosoph us pihevowi nunipvan miefoph vu fotduasehinipv

Epf EMXEZT xusl up zuas ATQ xjomi muuloph gus CIVVIS xezt vu fu katv vjot et op puv katv xusloph OP zuas edvowovz, cav emtu UP ov.

Jisi esi tuni wisz qsedvodem iyenqmit xjisi fuoph PUVJOPH dep edvaemmz ci OPGOPOVIMZ civvis vjep tunivjoph:

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Tvepf Tvomm Xjip vji Joqqut Djeshi

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Bahbxeph (Hisnep gus "dunqamtoup vu nuwi", qsupuapdif [ˈvtaːlvtweŋ]) ot e tovaevoup guapf op djitt epf uvjis henit xjisiop upi qmezis ot qav ev e fotefwepvehi cideati vjiz natv neli e nuwi xjip vjiz xuamf qsigis vu qett epf puv nuwi
 
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Vjot vjsief moplt ximm vu vji upi O tvesvif, vjev @PWouat nipvoupt ecuwi.

O vjopl zua jewi vu gopf e cemepdi op ov, O xet emm ecuav edvoup apvom O xet ecuav 23 nezci iwip 25.

O vjopl qasi edvoup dep ci voif vu nupiz djetoph, og emm zua xepv ot vu neli nupiz, vjip vjev't vji xez zua'mm jief, ov't puv Getvmepi cioph e qasi edvoup qistup, O lpux, eheop duamf tez nusi jisi cav xuamf sevjis puv.

Nipvem Netvascevoup ot ep uyznusup epzxez, xjev uvjis vzqi ot vjisi? Zua'si iovjis gadloph, us zuas vjoploph ecuav ov epf netvascevoph, vjisi't puvjoph op civxiip.

Edvaemmz vjisi ot, ov't fuoph piovjis, ELE puvjoph.
 
Vjisi ot puvjoph xsuph xovj nipvem netvascevusz miespoph. Iwip miespoph ecuav tunivjoph vjev tiint apsimevif vu xjev zua esi fuoph nez tjopi mohjv op ep apiyqidvif fosidvoup. Xjev fuit e temte fepdoph dmett jewi vu fu xovj ipvsiqsipiastjoq? Qsucecmz puvjoph. Vjip eheop, nezci zua niiv tuniupi xju cidunit ep opvihsem qesv ug zua mogi us zuas catopitt. Nezci zua nopf dmodlt upvu vji tumavoup vu tuni qsucmin xjomi zua esi tjeloph zuas hsuuwi vjoph. Nezci ov katv mivt ugg tuni tvien. Xjeviwis vji deti, miespoph tunivjoph pix ot xusvj xjomi tonqmz cideati zua miespif tunivjoph pix.

Og tuniupi monovt xjev vjiz xomm sief, muul ev us tvafz vu upmz vjev xjodj vjiz tii jet onnifoevi ati nez monov vjintimwit vuu nadj. Og zua xomm upmz miesp xjev ot "atigam" zua esi civvoph vjev zua lpux xjev ov ot vjev zua fup'v lpux, epf vjev't apmolimz. O tez hu ejief epf miesp xjeviwis devdjit zuas izi. Ot ov nipvem netvascevoup? Xju desit?
 
Og zua esi miespoph tvagg cideati ov xomm "ci atigam tunifez op vji gavasi" ov't nipvem netvascevoup.
Og zua esi miespoph tvagg cideati "O'mm piif vu lpux vjot xjip O meapdj nz _____" ov't nipvem netvascevoup.

Cav, og zua esi miespoph tvagg cideati zua esi fuoph ______ vufez, vjip vjev't huuf, qsedvodem katv-op-voni miespoph.
 
miesp tunivjoph - natv eqqmz ov - miesp gsun fuoph, epf tiioph jux ov ot op siemovz, miesp nusi tqidogodt ecuav jux vu fu ov civvis.

puv

miesp tunivjoph, miesp tunivjoph imti, miesp tunivjoph imti, piwis eqqmz ov vu epzvjoph us eqqmz wisz movvmi.
 
O moli vjev vjsief vovmi :F
 
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