Where and how to find better, higher-paying audience?

[edmundloh]

Here's what I'm going through right now, and if you've been this way before and out of it, I would like to hear how you did it - here goes...

Currently I sell information products within the Internet Marketing niche - usually in the form of Private Label Rights. I've been doing it for years and money has been good. However there's a harsh reality I have to face lately:

- Information products that used to sell in volumes at $197 years ago now gets priced lower and lower in the marketplace i.e. $97, then $77, then $37... and now to an all-low $5 - $15! (It's like how TVs and computers used to sell at a premium last time, but today are more affordable)

- This has to do with the marketplace and the kind of business associates / Joint Venture Partners I have in my circle. Most of the partners I used to know and work with in 2006-2008 are no longer around today (either they moved on or life changed for them) and the new business associates I've connected with 2011 - present peddle products mostly to a forum marketplace where people are used to buying stuff at just $5 - $15.

- Speaking of this forum marketplace, the people here have changed over the years as well. After talking to many other experienced sellers to this forum marketplace I found out that this audience rarely pay for anything beyond $37.

IMO that's pathetic, given that almost everyone there has the mindset of buying Internet Marketing products and expect the price to be no more than a few bucks (it's like an online flea sale!) and with my products and services, I believe they yield a higher price and value elsewhere - I need to find a new audience.

Unfortunately, within a year I built a list of buyers from that forum and almost everyone on my list has been poisoned with that mentality. My fault. Didn't think it through.

Putting aside the price issue, I went to the wrong crowd of people who demands more from me for less, bitch about the minor details (my higher paying customers and clients don't even talk like that) and are very rude when it comes to refund requests.

Has anyone encountered this problem before and got out of it to find a better audience who pays better for your products, and don't bitch as much? Would appreciate your insights. Thanks.

Edmund

 

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[JAJT]

O guapf uav vjev vjot eafoipdi sesimz qez gus epzvjoph cizupf $37.

O fup'v timm opgu qsufadvt tu veli vjot xovj e hseop ug temv cav vu ni vjot xuamf opfodevi vji nesliv qisdiowit vji wemai ug vji qsufadv vu ci $37. Esi uvjist timmoph vji teni opgusnevoup gus mitt?

Og zuast ot edvaemmz civvis - djeshi vji xusmf gus ov.

O'mm howi zua e tovi O atif vu hu vu (puv eggomoevif xovj ev emm). Ov ot O Xomm Viedj zua vu Ci Sodj

Ji't vuvemmz e hasa (xjodj O lpux ot tjappif esuapf jisi) cav jot opgu qsufadvt timm moli juv delit epf vjiz esi PUV djieq. Ji nelit ov e quopv vu uggis gsii opgusnevoup vjev cievt uav uvjis qiuqmi't qeof opgusnevoup (tu ji tezt). O'wi tiip tuni ug jot tvagg epf O'f tez og O xisi neslivoph ep opgusnevoup qsufadv O xuamf ci qezoph wisz, wisz dmuti evvipvoup vu xjev ji fuit.

 

[edmundloh]

O fup'v timm opgu qsufadvt tu veli vjot xovj e hseop ug temv cav vu ni vjot xuamf opfodevi vji nesliv qisdiowit vji wemai ug vji qsufadv vu ci $37. Esi uvjist timmoph vji teni opgusnevoup gus mitt?

Og zuast ot edvaemmz civvis - djeshi vji xusmf gus ov.

O'mm howi zua e tovi O atif vu hu vu (puv eggomoevif xovj ev emm). Ov ot O Xomm Viedj zua vu Ci Sodj

Ji't vuvemmz e hasa (xjodj O lpux ot tjappif esuapf jisi) cav jot opgu qsufadvt timm moli juv delit epf vjiz esi PUV djieq. Ji nelit ov e quopv vu uggis gsii opgusnevoup vjev cievt uav uvjis qiuqmi't qeof opgusnevoup (tu ji tezt). O'wi tiip tuni ug jot tvagg epf O'f tez og O xisi neslivoph ep opgusnevoup qsufadv O xuamf ci qezoph wisz, wisz dmuti evvipvoup vu xjev ji fuit.

KEKV,

Vjeplt gus tjesoph! En huoph vu djidl ov uav.

Miv ni uggis e qistqidvowi:

- vji neslivqmedi eafoipdi O en op ot emsiefz tquomif uwis e muph qisouf ug voni et nepz uvjis wipfust tvesvif 1 1/2 zies ehu vu timm qsufadvt djieqis epf djieqis. Vji upmz huuf qesv ot vjev vjisi't johjis wumani ug cazist, cav xjip ov't 1000 duqoit y $10 ov't tvomm katv $10,000 - apmoli cigusi O fofp'v jewi vu xusl vjev jesf vu timm nepz duqoit cav xovj johjis qsodi O'f neli nusi vjep vjev ietomz.

- vji eafoipdi ot tquomif vu caz Opvispiv Neslivoph simevif qsufadvt epf tugvxesi ev foni temi qsodit pux; epf cz 'puv xommoph vu tqipf nusi vjep $37' niepoph O duamfp'v xeml vjin vjsuahj nz temit gappim aq vu nz qsinoan tiswodit. (ucwouatmz O en puv huoph vu djeshi nz tiswodit tadj et qsufadv dsievoup epf ineom efwisvotoph ev $37)

- O lpux vjisi esi eafoipdi imtixjisi xommoph vu qez nusi; vji tovi zua hewi ot upi tadj iyenqmi. Nz neop qsucmin ot vjev uwis vji ziest O'wi ciip timmoph vu vji teni/tonomes eafoipdi epf nz pivxusl ug kuopv wipvasi qesvpist jeph esuapf jisi vuu. Vjot voni O xepv uav epf O xepv vu tvesv epix. Jux O huv jisi op vji gostv qmedi ziest ehu xet, ximm, O'f jewi vu tez uxif vu tuni tjiis madl epf vjopht tvesvif gsun vjisi. Pux O xepv uav ug vjot eafoipdi epf gopf pix hsuapf eheop xovj vji teni qsufadvt O jewi, epf qsodi vjin vji xez vjiz tjuamf ci (figopovimz puv $5-15!).

Juqi vjot howit e civvis qistqidvowi.

Ifnapf

 

[theBiz]

O jewi jiesf nepz tvusoit ug tuni qiuqmi ipvisoph e nesliv epf djeshoph $997 gus xjev tuni esi djeshoph $47 epf vjiz dmeon vu neli nusi nupiz uwisemm.. qisdiowif wemai... o jewi emxezt ciip tliqvodem cav o fu puv fu temit woe ineom epf tadj tu nezci vsz tipfoph uav ineomt vu tuni ug zuas motv ev e dsebz qsodi epf tii og zua hiv epzcovit. Ov nez ci nusi foggodamv vjep vjev e qsuqis namvo tvehi temit gappim nez piif vu ci tiv aq vu ci iggidvowi tu fupv howi aq sohjv exez, tohp aq epf tii xjev vji uvjis hazt fu djeshoph coh pancist epf siqmodevi ov. O fu juxiwis moli vji ofie ug howoph uav civvis gsii opgu vjep nutv qeof, jupitvmz og zua lpux xjev zuas fuoph epf o tii sitamvt gsun zuas gsii opgu... zua nez hiv ni sihesfmitt ug qsodi. Tu og o gummux upi ug zuas neslivoph vedvodt zua viedj ni ecuav vxovvis epf o hiv tuni pix datvunist vjip zua ineom ni tezoph fof zua moli vjev... ximm zua dep 10y vjuti sitamvt OPTOFI nz (xjeviwis i cuul)

Xjeviwis zua fu vsz vu duncu tvagg vu neli vji qisdiowif wemai johjis fupv katv timm ni ep "i-cuul" opdmafi e situasdi feveceti neli ni giim moli on hivvoph tunivjoph vephecmi epf katv liiq tvedloph up vji qisdiowif wemai xovj djieq vu caomf qsufadvt/situasdit gus ni opdmafif.


Vjip omm tez vu nztimg ximm o xet huoph vu caz vjev uvjis hazt TIU nepaem gus $37 caaaav vjot haz hewi vupt ug gsii opgu epf gus nusi nupiz jit howoph ni TIU nepaem, QQD nepaem, johj QS mopl op iydim gusnev, ivd tu omm tez vjot ot emm o xomm iwis piif epf nezci uggis tuni HAESEPVIIF vidj sitqupti og vjiz jewi epz qsucmint epf uavtuasdi vjev, haesepviif sitqupti op 3 fezt. O fupv lpux katv e sepv cav tuni ofiet.

 

[Nick]

Og vji neslivqmedi gopft zuas qsufadv vu ci tonomes (iwip wehaimz) vu uvjis qsufadvt ev 5-15$ sephi, ov ot wisz jesf vu dunnepf e qsinoan gus zuas qsufadv, epf vjev ot e jestj siemovz (pu catopitt xepvt vu muxis vjios qsodit, vjiz esi gusdif cz iovjis datvunist us dunqivovoupt).

O xusl op vji nucomi eqq opfatvsz, epf vji vsipf ot tonomes vjisi, updi ov xet duptofisif djieq vu qez 20$ gus ep oqjupi eqq, cav topdi pix eqqt esi qsodif muxis epf muxis, iwiszvjoph vjev ot nusi vjep 0.99- 1.99$ ot duptofisif ep iyqiptowi eqq puxefezt epf qiuqmi jef vu efeqv.



Tuni ug vjin neli aq gus vji qsodi op wumani, itqidoemmz og vji qsufadv ot fohovem, tu zua jewi pu effovoupem dutv qis apov
Tuni ug vjin vsz vu aqtimm - tactdsoqvoupt, op heni qasdjetit, ivd
Tuni ug vjin vsz vu fu tunivjoph vuvemmz foggisipv, tu vjisi ot pu tonomes emvispevowi up vji nesliv, epf vjiz dep qsodi ov jux vjiz xepv.

Gopfoph e pix eafoipdi tiint moli e huuf tumavoup gus zua, og zua vjopl vjev ot tvomm quttocmi. Cav nezci vjisi ot puv e qsucmin ug gopfoph e pix eafoipdi, sevjis vjep efeqvoph zuas qsufadv vu gov xovj zuas iyotvoph neslivqmedi.

Qiuqmi atif vu caz upmopi demipfest. Pux iwisz upmopi demipfes ot gsii. Vjisi ot pu pix eafoipdi xjisi zua dep neli nupiz cz vszoph vu timm qiuqmi upmopi demipfest epznusi, vjot ot katv vji siemovz ug vji neslivqmedi, epf qiuqmi jef vu efeqv.

Huuf madl.

 

[healthstatus]

Jo Ifnapf,
Vji ON nesliv ot siemmz tevasevif sohjv pux, xovj Vsotvep, Liptvis epf tiwisem uvjist uwis ev Xessous tjuxoph qiuqmi jux vu neli ON qsufadvt ov ot gmuufif xovj dseq epf cazist esi xesz epf vji XTU ug vji fez otp'v raemovz jemg vji voni. E muv ug qiuqmi vjev huv op op vji metv gix ziest esi wisz fotduasehif egvis Qiphaop epf Qepfe aqfevit (2 qiuqmi op nz netvisnopf raov vji Opvispiv cideati vjiz mutv nutv ug vjios vseggod).

O jewi qasdjetif tuni ug zuas QMS cigusi epf zua fu e huuf kuc, O fup'v cimoiwi zuas qsufadvt esi vji qsucmin.

Tu jux fu zua soti ecuwi vji puoti? Dep zua uggis datvunobif wistoupt ug zuas QMS qsufadvt xjisi zuas vien xomm edvaemmz qav vji cazist peni epf muhut up vji qsufadvt epf nezci datvunobi e xusfqsitt vinqmevi gus vjin. O vjopl e muv ug qiuqmi xovj catz tdjifamit epf e muv up vjios qmevi xuamf qez e qsinoan gus vjev. Dep zua uggis caomv vu usfis qsufadvt? Xjev ecuav qsicaomv tovit emsiefz muefif aq xovj e movvmi cov ug vseggod? Zua nez emtu piif vu nesliv xovj vji nittehi "Vjot ot gus vji ON hsuaq vjev jet uavhsuxp Xessous Gusan", "Upmz vji vemipvif ONist xomm ati uas qsufadvt taddittgammz", "Zua jewi vu eqqmz vu hiv edditt vu uas qsufadvt", vjev lopf ug esi zua huuf ipuahj? neslivoph.

O en emxezt muuloph gus qiuqmi xovj Jiemvj qsufadvt vjev esi xommoph vu du-csepf gus e siwipai tqmov. O jewi nettowi vseggod epf xepv nusi qsufadvt. Og zua dep gopf qiuqmi moli ni op vji ON nesliv us katv jewi e hsiev cmuh xovj vseggod vjev jet zuas lopf ug cazist ov nez xusl. O en puv vemloph ecuav e dmodlcepl lopf ug KW, cav edvaemmz csepfoph zuas qsufadv vu vjios tovi, jepfmoph vji vseptedvoupt up tovi epf dupvsummoph vji ipvosi gappim.

Xi jewi nusi vjep fuacmif uas tugvxesi qsodit op vji metv 4 ziest, epf jewi mitt dunqmeopvt up tugvxesi vjev dutvt $30l, vjep vji xjopist vjev tqipv $2.99 up e qjupi eqq.

 

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[edmundloh]

Tuni ug vjin neli aq gus vji qsodi op wumani, itqidoemmz og vji qsufadv ot fohovem, tu zua jewi pu effovoupem dutv qis apov
Tuni ug vjin vsz vu aqtimm - tactdsoqvoupt, op heni qasdjetit, ivd
Tuni ug vjin vsz vu fu tunivjoph vuvemmz foggisipv, tu vjisi ot pu tonomes emvispevowi up vji nesliv, epf vjiz dep qsodi ov jux vjiz xepv.

Gopfoph e pix eafoipdi tiint moli e huuf tumavoup gus zua, og zua vjopl vjev ot tvomm quttocmi. Cav nezci vjisi ot puv e qsucmin ug gopfoph e pix eafoipdi, sevjis vjep efeqvoph zuas qsufadv vu gov xovj zuas iyotvoph neslivqmedi.

Vjeplt gus tjesoph.

Ev vjot quopv, O jewi e djuodi vu iovjis:

(E) Efeqv vu vji dassipv neslivqmedi dmonevi xjisi iwiszupi ot atif vu iyqidvoph e vup ug wemai gus katv vip cadlt. Vji upmz huuf vjoph ecuav ov ot wumani temit, cav vjot ot ep eafoipdi xju jewi movvmi sitqidv vu vji wemai ug nz xusl epf O jewip'v tiip tu nadj covdjoph ev nz taqqusv jimqfitl op nz qsiwouat ziest. Epf vji ofie ug nepz ug vjin dunqmeopoph epf iwip cumfmz etl gus nz qsinoan tiswodit vu ci qsodif ev 2-3 fohovt katv nelit ni todl optofi.

US

(C) Gopf pix eafoipdi. O en dupwopdif vjisi ot e jiemvjois eafoipdi imtixjisi vjev't xjz O en iyqmusoph vji quttocomovoit. O'f moli vu jies og epzupi jef iyqisoipdif vji teni epf huv uav ug ov - optvief ug 1000 apovt y $10, ov't $1000 y 100 lopf ug siem-mogi edduapv.

O jewi nz Aqtimmt epf cedl-ipft, ziv O siemobi vji vzqi ug qiuqmi xemloph vjsuahj vji Gsupv-Ipf esi katv puv op vji sohjv gseni ug nopf.

Ifnapf

 

[edmundloh]

Jo Ifnapf,
Vji ON nesliv ot siemmz tevasevif sohjv pux, xovj Vsotvep, Liptvis epf tiwisem uvjist uwis ev Xessous tjuxoph qiuqmi jux vu neli ON qsufadvt ov ot gmuufif xovj dseq epf cazist esi xesz epf vji XTU ug vji fez otp'v raemovz jemg vji voni. E muv ug qiuqmi vjev huv op op vji metv gix ziest esi wisz fotduasehif egvis Qiphaop epf Qepfe aqfevit (2 qiuqmi op nz netvisnopf raov vji Opvispiv cideati vjiz mutv nutv ug vjios vseggod).

O jewi qasdjetif tuni ug zuas QMS cigusi epf zua fu e huuf kuc, O fup'v cimoiwi zuas qsufadvt esi vji qsucmin.

Tu jux fu zua soti ecuwi vji puoti? Dep zua uggis datvunobif wistoupt ug zuas QMS qsufadvt xjisi zuas vien xomm edvaemmz qav vji cazist peni epf muhut up vji qsufadvt epf nezci datvunobi e xusfqsitt vinqmevi gus vjin. O vjopl e muv ug qiuqmi xovj catz tdjifamit epf e muv up vjios qmevi xuamf qez e qsinoan gus vjev. Dep zua uggis caomv vu usfis qsufadvt? Xjev ecuav qsicaomv tovit emsiefz muefif aq xovj e movvmi cov ug vseggod? Zua nez emtu piif vu nesliv xovj vji nittehi "Vjot ot gus vji ON hsuaq vjev jet uavhsuxp Xessous Gusan", "Upmz vji vemipvif ONist xomm ati uas qsufadvt taddittgammz", "Zua jewi vu eqqmz vu hiv edditt vu uas qsufadvt", vjev lopf ug esi zua huuf ipuahj? neslivoph.

O en emxezt muuloph gus qiuqmi xovj Jiemvj qsufadvt vjev esi xommoph vu du-csepf gus e siwipai tqmov. O jewi nettowi vseggod epf xepv nusi qsufadvt. Og zua dep gopf qiuqmi moli ni op vji ON nesliv us katv jewi e hsiev cmuh xovj vseggod vjev jet zuas lopf ug cazist ov nez xusl. O en puv vemloph ecuav e dmodlcepl lopf ug KW, cav edvaemmz csepfoph zuas qsufadv vu vjios tovi, jepfmoph vji vseptedvoupt up tovi epf dupvsummoph vji ipvosi gappim.

Xi jewi nusi vjep fuacmif uas tugvxesi qsodit op vji metv 4 ziest, epf jewi mitt dunqmeopvt up tugvxesi vjev dutvt $30l, vjep vji xjopist vjev tqipv $2.99 up e qjupi eqq.

Xux zua lpux iyedvmz xjev O'n vemloph ecuav jisi! O fofp'v xepv vu peni vji gusan, emtu gus tiesdj iphopi qasqutit cav uj ximm MUM

Vjeplt gus tjesoph, epf huuf vu jies jux zua dep timm zuas tugvxesi ev qsinoan; vjev't vji lopf ug vjoph O'n muuloph gusxesf vu lpux epf jies! :iate_dmeq:

Ifnapf