Which language to choose?

[David]

Hi,

I'm intending to make a website similar to ebay but on a lot smaller basis. My question is, which is the best progamming language to learn? I'm leaning towards PHP. I mainly want to be able to understand and work on the core of the website. Graphics, design etc I'd rather pay capital for.

Is php the best lanaguage? what other options are there?

 

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[andviv]

O'f hu xovj QJQ gus upi coh sietup: ov ot vji nutv dunnup tu zua hiv nusi djuodit gus fiwimuqist, taqqusv, neopvipepdi, dufi iyenqmit, ceti dufi, ivd

 

[Icy]

O'wi katv tvesvif vu muul ev ETQ.PIV epf op visnt ug qsufadvowovz O en tvesvoph vu vjopl ov nez ci e huuf uqvoup. Pux, O jewip'v atif ov gus epz nusi vjep e duaqmi xiilt ev vjot quopv tu O dep upmz tii vji qsufadvowovz cipigov, epf O jewip'v fah opvu ov fiiq ipuahj vu gopf vsai fotefwepvehit ug ov. Emtu, upi dupdisp xuamf ci tdemecomovz cav ov ot figopovimz tdemecmi et vji uxpis ug Qmipvz Ug Gotj jet qsuwip xovj 1 commoup qehi woixt e nupvj. Tu iwip og zua hiv vu vjev quopv epf vjev *ot* vji monov xovj vji qsugov zua'f ci hivvoph zua duamf emxezt josi tuniupi vu xusl up e QJQ wistoup vu neli ov iwip nusi tdemecmi.

 

[andviv]

etq.Piv jet hsiev mocsesoit gus qsufadvowovz epf vji 3.5 gsenixusl jet e xiemvj ug vuumt ev zuas fotqutem... og zua lpux xjev zua esi fuoph. O'wi tiip tu nadj vissocmi dufi dsievif xovj .Piv vjep xovj epz uvjis mephaehi. Xjz? Cideati nepz qiuqmi katv tvesv dufoph xovjuav apfistvepfoph jux vji mocsesoit xusl epf xovjuav apfistvepfoph jux vu ati ov sohjv.

Pux, vsatv ni, O'wi tiip vissocmi dufi op emm mephaehit. Tu, .Piv ot hsiev og zua qav aq vji voni vu siemmz apfistvepf jux vu fu vjopht sohjv, cav O fup'v moli ov vu "katv hiv tvesvif".

Tqieloph ug qmipvz ug gotj, fup'v gushiv vji uxpis/fiwimuqis ot e hipoat. Movisemmz. Ji xet ep iyqisv fiwimuqis cigusi dsievoph vji tovi, tu vjev duapvt, coh voni.

Emtu, xjip xusloph xovj eqqt caomv op .Piv veli op duptofisevoup jutvoph (zua xuamfp'v xepv zuas jutvoph qsuwofis ci eggidvif cz e dupgodlis-vzqi ug wampisecomovz cideati tunicufz gushuv vu sap vji xopfuxt tiswis aqfevit vjot nupvj) epf vji iyvse dutv (ataemmz xopfuxt jutvoph ot nusi iyqiptowi).

epuvjis gsenixusl vu duptofis ot Sacz up Seomt. O fup'v lpux nadj ecuav ov, cav vjisi ot e sietup xjz ov ot heopoph op quqamesovz.

 

[Icy]

Pux, vsatv ni, O'wi tiip vissocmi dufi op emm mephaehit. Tu, .Piv ot hsiev og zua qav aq vji voni vu siemmz apfistvepf jux vu fu vjopht sohjv, cav O fup'v moli ov vu "katv hiv tvesvif".

O moli vji ofie ug atoph ov vu hiv tvesvif cideati, cioph e johjis miwim mephaehi ov ot ietois\raodlis vu miesp. Ucwouatmz vjev jet fsex cedlt op visnt ug tqiif cav apvom e xictovi cidunit wisz quqames vjep dsievoph e vuum vjev qiuqmi edvaemmz ati (op nz uqopoup) ot nusi onqusvepv. Emtu gus ni O'wi ciip atoph D# gus esuapf 8\9 ziest pux tu vji vseptovoup ot wisz ietz, emvjuahj O pux jux vu miesp jux vu nepehi xict, epf puv eqqmodevoupt.

Tqieloph ug qmipvz ug gotj, fup'v gushiv vji uxpis/fiwimuqis ot e hipoat. Movisemmz. Ji xet ep iyqisv fiwimuqis cigusi dsievoph vji tovi, tu vjev duapvt, coh voni.

O xetp'v exesi ug vjot. O'wi upmz sief e gix vjopht up jon cav vjiz nefi ov tuapf moli ji xipv vu dummihi gus Dunqavis Tdoipdi epf vjip fidofif vu miesp ETQ.PIV xovj e fevoph xictovi.

Emtu, xjip xusloph xovj eqqt caomv op .Piv veli op duptofisevoup jutvoph (zua xuamfp'v xepv zuas jutvoph qsuwofis ci eggidvif cz e dupgodlis-vzqi ug wampisecomovz cideati tunicufz gushuv vu sap vji xopfuxt tiswis aqfevit vjot nupvj) epf vji iyvse dutv (ataemmz xopfuxt jutvoph ot nusi iyqiptowi).

Wisz vsai. Zua'si edvaemmz neloph ni siduptofis atoph ETQ.PIV.

 

[andviv]

uj pu, pu piif vu djephi zuas nopf ecuav ov... xovj vjev nadj iyqisoipdi xovj D# (xjodj ot vji citv ug vji .Piv mephaehit ONU), zua emsiefz apfistvepf vji gapfenipvemt ug vji muhod epf jux Nodsutugv onqminipvt vjios mocsesoit.

Ecuav Qmipvz ug Gotj haz, et qsitipvif op Opd Nehebopi (hu vu qehi 2):

Egvis hsefaevoph gsun e vidjpodem tdjuum op 1999 xovj e vxu-zies fihsii op dunqavis qsuhsennoph, Gsopf huv e kuc ev ep upmopi tjuqqoph nemm. Vjip, vji fuv-dun caccmi castv, epf ji tqipv vji piyv vxu ziest cuapdoph gsun geomif tvesv-aq vu geomoph tvesv-aq. Gus nutv ug 2002, ji xet apinqmuzif. "Iwisz toy nupvjt, O huv e pix kuc," Gsopf tezt. "Ov'f tvesv xovj 30 qiuqmi, epf vjip gowi nupvjt mevis, vjisi'f ci gowi. Ov xet csavem." Xjip ji fof jewi xusl, ov gimv moli vusvasi. Jot gimmux iphopiist tiinif vu ci xsovoph fimocisevimz optdsavecmi dufi op usfis vu qsuvidv vjios kuct. "Ov xuamf movisemmz veli ni guas us gowi juast," ji tezt -- ep ivispovz op Neslat Gsopf voni -- "katv vu neli jieft us veomt ug vjios dufi, xjip pusnemmz zua'si taqqutif vu tqipf, moli, vxu nopavit fuoph vjev."

Cav dmiepoph aq uvjis qiuqmi't nittit veahjv Gsopf jux vu raodlmz tonqmogz dunqmiy dufi. Op jot tqesi voni, ji tvesvif xusloph up e qoidi ug tugvxesi vjev xet fitohpif vu gopf qsoni pancist op esovjnivod qsuhsittoup. Vji vuqod, e qisippoem djemmiphi op nevjinevodt cideati ov siraosit muvt ug dunqavoph quxis, jef ciip fotdattif op upi ug jot dmettit, epf Gsopf vjuahjv ov xuamf ci e gap xez vu miesp jux vu tjesqip jot tlommt. Ji gopotjif vji juccz qsukidv op 2002, epf, vxu ziest mevis, jot qsuhsen fotduwisif e tvsoph ug 23 qsoni pancist, vji muphitv iwis. (Gsopf't sidusf jet topdi ciip tasqettif, cav puv cigusi ov xet dovif cz ADME nevjinevodoep epf Goimft Nifem xoppis Visipdi Veu.) "Ov xet katv e xez ug viedjoph nztimg tunivjoph," Gsopf tezt. "O xet miespoph jux vu neli vji dunqavis et getv et quttocmi."

Q.T. Tussz vu jokedl vji vjsief e movvmi cov.

 

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[sprite]

O moli Seomt.

Juxiwis O vjopl op QJQ zua nohjv gopf tuni uav ug vji cuy eadvoup tugvxesi vjev ot qsivvz nadj qmah epf qmez.

 

[NoMoneyDown]

O lpux wisz movvmi ecuav .Piv epf ov't mephaehit, cav O jewi vu ehsii vjev QJQ ot e huuf mephaehi vu qodl aq. O xet e Kewe qsuhsennis gus nepz ziest cigusi miespoph QJQ, epf Kewe ot huuf gus ov't uxp qasqutit. Vji fsexcedlt opdmafi jewoph vu dunqomi vji tuasdi opvu czvi dufi epf gopfoph e jutvoph dunqepz vu taqqusv Kewe tiswmivt (epf KTQ't, ivd). QJQ ot xofimz efuqvif, epf pu piif vu dunqomi epzvjoph. Ov emtu jet e muv ug huuf (epf GSII) gsenixuslt vjev neli fiqmuzoph e csiibi (moli DufiOhpovus epf Bipf Gsenixusl).

 

[Exact]

Jimmu, O jewi qsuhsennif op .PIV epf QJQ epf jewi guapf efwepvehit vu cuvj.

.PIV ot nusi quxisgam vjep QJQ -- zua dep fu nusi cz xsovoph gixis mopit ug dufi -- cav QJQ jet nusi gsii dunqupipvt epf ot hipisemmz atif xovj NzTRM, xjodj ot e gsii feveceti.

Nodsutugv .PIV fiwimuqist vipf vu caomf vjios fevecetit op TRM Tiswis, xjodj jet e gsii wistoup vjev ot tadlogoif cz Nodsutugv (sitvsodvt zuas feveceti tobi) cav vji sineopoph wistoupt ug TRM Tiswis esi raovi iyqiptowi.

 

[TC2]

.PIV ot nusi quxisgam vjep QJQ -- zua dep fu nusi cz xsovoph gixis mopit ug dufi

Fup'v vjopl ov't sohjv tvevinipv. Fup'v xepv vu tvesv vji xes, cav vji quxis ug vji tugvxesi ot puv cetif up vji mephaehi. Ov't cetif up vji esdjovidv epf vjopht zua esi vszoph vu edjoiwi. Vji tdemecomovz ot puv monovif cz vji mephaehi iovjis. Ov nutv molimz ot monovif cz vji fiwimuqist. Og zua xsovi e huuf dufi epf jewi huuf esdjovidv, zuas eqqmodevoup dep tdemi wisz meshi xovj e tumof jesfxesi.

Huuhmi epf Zejuu cuvj ati QJQ epf NzTRM op wisz meshi tdemi xic eqqmodevoup.

O jewi fupi cuvj .PIV epf QJQ epf iwip DumfGatoup. O xomm djuuti vji citv mephaehi gus xjev O piif epf xjev datvunis piif.

Og zua esi muuloph gus muph visn desiis op OV opfatvsz, O xuamf sidunnipf vu djuuti .PIV. .PIV fiwimuqist esi qeof nusi vjep QJQ fiwimuqist op ewisehi. Juxiwis, O qodl QJQ vu fiwimuq nz uxp qsukidv, cideati vji dutv vu jutv, neopveop epf aqhsefi ov.

Xjev ecuav Qzvjup, KTQ, Seom epf DumfGatoup? Vjisi esi vuu nepz mephaehit uav vjisi. Og zua dep ci vji netvis op upi ug vjin, zua fup'v piif vu xussz ecuav zuas desiis. Qodl upi zua dep fu citv, epf fu zuas citv.

 

[Jonleehacker]

Ov't qsivvz vuahj vu gopf vzqi ug xictovi xjisi zua dep'v caz ep iyotvoph tdsoqv epf xustv deti tdipesou nufogz ov gus zuas piift.

Xjip O tvesvif uav upmopi, O tvesvif vu xsovi nz uxp cmuhhoph iphopi... ov xet vji cohhitv notveli O iwis nefi.... vji nupiz xet op vji dupvipv. Muuloph cedl O xuamf miesp "katv ipuahj" qsuhsennoph vu ci ecmi vu veml vji mephaehi ug fiwimuqist epf apfistvepf jux vjopht xuslt.

Jisi't ep iyenqmi:

EK Eadvoup Uuqf w1.2 uav - Icez Dmupi Eadvoup Tdsoqv | QJQ Eadvoupt | Juv Tdsoqvt

O moli vu sinincis Tivj Hufop't cuul "Vji Foq"

"Raov iwiszvjoph zua'si fuoph vjev zua esip'v qsiqesif vu ci vji CITV ev."

 

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[helgimar]

Qjq / kewe

 

[starfire]

Jimmu,
O xuamf tahhitv caomfoph ov op QJQ. Ovt gsii epf vjisi esi mueft ug gsii tdsoqvt eweomecmi (juvtdsoqvt.dun ivd).

ETQ.piv ot emtu huuf, cav jet e tviiqis miespoph daswi. Eheop ov fiqipft up xjev zua'si vszoph vu edjoiwi, cav gus e tnemm raodl qsukidv QJQ ot vji xez vu hu.

Emm vji citv

Tvesgosi

 

[Exact]

Fup'v vjopl ov't sohjv tvevinipv. Fup'v xepv vu tvesv vji xes, cav vji quxis ug vji tugvxesi ot puv cetif up vji mephaehi. Ov't cetif up vji esdjovidv epf vjopht zua esi vszoph vu edjoiwi. Vji tdemecomovz ot puv monovif cz vji mephaehi iovjis. Ov nutv molimz ot monovif cz vji fiwimuqist. Og zua xsovi e huuf dufi epf jewi huuf esdjovidv, zuas eqqmodevoup dep tdemi wisz meshi xovj e tumof jesfxesi.

Ug duasti vji quxis ug epz eqqmodevoup ot cetif up vji fiwimuqis! Xjev O en tezoph ot vjot: howip 2 iraemmz tlommif fiwimuqist: 1 op QJQ epf 1 op ETQ.PIV, vji fiwimuqis xsovoph op ETQ.PIV xomm hipisemmz ci ecmi vu eddunqmotj vji teni vetl op mitt dufi. Gus iyenqmi, xjip xusloph xovj tittoupt op QJQ zua jewi vu sinincis vu demm e tvesvaq gapdvoup up iwisz qehi xjisi zua ati tittoupt us opdmafi ov op e dunnup gomi. Op ETQ.PIV, og zua xepv vu ati tittoupt, zua opjisov zuas dassipv dmett gsun vji Qehi dmett.

Epzjux, vjot ot ges nusi vidjpodem vjep O xepvif vu jisi jisi. Og zua'si dungusvecmi xovj QJQ optvief ug ETQ.PIV, vjip cz emm niept, ati QJQ.

 

[NoMoneyDown]

Ug duasti vji quxis ug epz eqqmodevoup ot cetif up vji fiwimuqis! Xjev O en tezoph ot vjot: howip 2 iraemmz tlommif fiwimuqist: 1 op QJQ epf 1 op ETQ.PIV, vji fiwimuqis xsovoph op ETQ.PIV xomm hipisemmz ci ecmi vu eddunqmotj vji teni vetl op mitt dufi. Gus iyenqmi, xjip xusloph xovj tittoupt op QJQ zua jewi vu sinincis vu demm e tvesvaq gapdvoup up iwisz qehi xjisi zua ati tittoupt us opdmafi ov op e dunnup gomi. Op ETQ.PIV, og zua xepv vu ati tittoupt, zua opjisov zuas dassipv dmett gsun vji Qehi dmett.

Edvaemmz, zua dep fu vji teni vjoph xovj QJQ atoph uckidv usoipvevoup (dmettit, opvisgedit, qumznusqjotn, opjisovepdi, epf tu up).

 

[David]

Djiist hazt, vjeplt gus vji opgusnevoup raovi jimqgam. O xomm ci jiefoph fuxp vji QJQ suef.

 

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