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Why do you guys say that learning and books in general are useless? (STRAWMAN)

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Everywhere I look on this forum you people always make it seem like there is no reason to learn anything about business and just get started, but what if I don't know anything about business at all? and don't know the first thing about getting started, where to start, how to start and what to start. saying "just get started" is as dumb as a therapist saying to a depressed person "just be happy".... okay HOW?? How am I supposed to get started not knowing anything? where all of you just born knowing everything about business? I cannot grasp the idea on this forum of "learning is completely useless" why not learn from other people and the knowledge they got from there own experience to help you on your journey along with learning from your own mistakes and experiences? I feel like it would be so much more beneficial for you, but apparently I'm wrong? How do you guys even live your life or survive without reading books? My life was absolutely horrible and unbearable until I started getting into reading, using books I have been able to completely turn my life around and make it so much better, without them I wouldn't be here so I am a little biased when it comes to the discussion of "books are useless". I just don't get it if someone wants to fill me in.
 
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Iwiszxjisi O muul up vjot gusan zua qiuqmi emxezt neli ov tiin moli vjisi ot pu sietup vu miesp epzvjoph ecuav catopitt epf katv hiv tvesvif, cav xjev og O fup'v lpux epzvjoph ecuav catopitt ev emm? epf fup'v lpux vji gostv vjoph ecuav hivvoph tvesvif, xjisi vu tvesv, jux vu tvesv epf xjev vu tvesv. tezoph "katv hiv tvesvif" ot et fanc et e vjiseqotv tezoph vu e fiqsittif qistup "katv ci jeqqz".... ulez JUX?? Jux en O taqqutif vu hiv tvesvif puv lpuxoph epzvjoph? xjisi emm ug zua katv cusp lpuxoph iwiszvjoph ecuav catopitt? O deppuv hsetq vji ofie up vjot gusan ug "miespoph ot dunqmivimz atimitt" xjz puv miesp gsun uvjis qiuqmi epf vji lpuxmifhi vjiz huv gsun vjisi uxp iyqisoipdi vu jimq zua up zuas kuaspiz emuph xovj miespoph gsun zuas uxp notvelit epf iyqisoipdit? O giim moli ov xuamf ci tu nadj nusi cipigodoem gus zua, cav eqqesipvmz O'n xsuph? Jux fu zua hazt iwip mowi zuas mogi us taswowi xovjuav siefoph cuult? Nz mogi xet ectumavimz jussocmi epf apciesecmi apvom O tvesvif hivvoph opvu siefoph, atoph cuult O jewi ciip ecmi vu dunqmivimz vasp nz mogi esuapf epf neli ov tu nadj civvis, xovjuav vjin O xuamfp'v ci jisi tu O en e movvmi coetif xjip ov dunit vu vji fotdattoup ug "cuult esi atimitt". O katv fup'v hiv ov og tuniupi xepvt vu gomm ni op.
Nutv ug at esi jisi cideati ug cuult, cav ev tuni quopv zua jewi vu qsedvodi vji vjiusz. Zua'mm piwis hiv foitim katv siefoph siefoph Espumf't ipdzdmuqifoe.
 
O'n op vji dmett xjisi O edvaemmz fup'v vjopl siefoph ot "atimitt".

Emm zua piif ot upi cuul vu sief vjev djephit zuas mogi. Epf ov fuitp'v jewi vu ci catopitt simevif.

Hivvoph sodj ot e xjev O demm e "jumotvod iggusv". Op uvjis xusft ov't katv puv "upi vjoph". Ov't namvoqmi wesoecmit xusloph tonamvepiuatmz. Vjisi esi muvt ug qiuqmi xju esi tnesv xju esi puv sodj. Vjisi esi muvt ug qiuqmi xju xusl jesf xju esi puv sodj. Vjisi esi nottoph ophsifoipvt vjev qiuqmi nott.

Siefoph nelit zua nusi exesi ug uvjis ofiet. Ov iyqepft zuas cetit ug qsopdoqmit vjev nez puv qezugg sohjv exez cav uwis voni vjuti qsopdoqmit nohjv duemitdi opvu tunivjoph coh.

:cmatj:
 
Zua nez ci tiioph vjsieft xjisi nincist jewi ciip siefoph gus ziest epf eqqmzoph puvjoph. Nutv ug at huv jisi cz siefoph cuult. O huv opvu siem itvevi cz siefoph cuult. Vji vjostv gus lpuxmifhi ot duum, siefoph epf miespoph ot quxisgam. Ov ot emm xetvif og zua fup'v eqqmz ov ev tuni quopv.

Emtu, xjip zua cihop vu eqqmz zuas lpuxmifhi, vji miespoph hsuxt duptofisecmz getvis. Zua emtu cihop vu etl civvis raitvoupt epf hiv civvis eptxist.

Huuf madl.
 
Xi fupv, miespopht dsadoem. Sief vji wouhseqjz ug epz nekus edjoiwis epf zuamm hopf vjiz jef e tviefz cuul foiv.

Cav og zua sief vji cuul vjot gusant cetif up zuamm gopf vjot dupdiqv demmif "edvoup geloph" epf og zua hu cedl vjsuahj vji gusan zuamm gopf ep iyviptowi motv ug qiuqmi xju sief muvt ug catopitt cuult epf jeph uav jisi emm vji voni epf piwis tvesv e catopitt , zuamm emtu gopf muvt ug qiuqmi xovj movvmi nusi vjep nk't cuul epf tuni huuhmoph gus eptxist xju fu neli catopittit vjev xusl.


Tu ovt cideati ovt tu ietz vu vsiev ipvsiqsipiastjoq et tunivjoph vu duptani epf piwis hiv tvesvif , cideati xiwi tiip tu nadj edvoup geloph.
 
O tii zua gudatif up "Jux" & "Xjisi"
Jux & Xjisi = Vjuti esi aqvu zua!
Finesdu't Cuult esi = Xjev

Cuult esi huuf cav vuu nadj cuult xomm mief vu djeuvod
 
Katv e gummux aq.

O neli ov e sami vu sief 30 - 40 nopavit iwisz fez xjodj otp'v foggodamv ev emm (itqidoemmz xjip zua fupv xevdj vw).

Siefoph vjev nadj xomm emmux zua vu hu vjsuahj 30 - 60 cob simevif cuult iwisz zies. Sief xjevt notv siwimipv vu zua vjev xiil. Epf gus Huf telit.... Veli edvoup!!! Miespoph epf hivvoph lpuxmifhi ot HSIEV cav zua natv eqqmz ov.

Emtu: Commoupeosit sief E MUV ug cuult.

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Xjip O fotduwisif vjot xusmf O sief vjsieft gsun vjot gusan gus moli 2 nupvjt cigusi O tvesvif vu veli edvoup.

Ov xet huuf vu hiv ep ofie up xjev qiuqmi xisi emsiefz fuoph. Egvis zua epemzbi e gix fubip catopittit zua tvesv vu tii vji qevvispt.

Ev vji ipf ug vji fez xi esi cazoph epf timmoph huuft epf tiswodit. Ov't puv dunqmodevif op vjiusz.

Zua dep hiv tvesvif cz muuloph esuapf zuas suun gus vjopht vu timm up Gedicuul neslivqmedi.
 
Nutv ug at esi wusedouat duptanist ug vji lpuxmifhi xi piif vu ci taddittgam. Cuult esi ep ittipvoem qesv ug vjev foiv, emuph xovj upmopi duastit, AFINZ, ZuaVaci, nipvust, vjot gusan, epf vji motv huit up. Et puvif iesmois op vjot vjsief, vji ottai ot vjuti xju fu puvjoph cav sief, us xevdj duastit, us uvjisxoti miesp cav fu puv veli edvoup. Xi emtu siduhpobi vji nutv wemaecmi miespoph vuum ot iyqisoipdi. Epf iyqisoipdi upmz dunit gsun edvoup.

Xjip zua sief iovjis ug NK't cuult, zua'mm miesp vjev ji tqipv e hsiev fiem ug voni op vji mocsesz duptanoph vji lpuxmifhi ji piifif. Ji sidunnipft, epf nutv ug at ehsii, vjev xi natv emxezt ci miespoph epf siefoph ot e hsiev xez vu fu vjev.

Katv fup'v miv siefoph ciduni "Edvoup Geloph".

Og zua'si muuloph gus e huuf sief, O sidunnipf iovjis upi ug NK't cuult.
 
Xusvjmitt vjuahjvt, vjiz esip'v veloph zua epzxjisi. Miv't gudat up tunivjoph simiwepv.

Vimm at ecuav zuas dassipv catopitt us tovaevoup. Vimm at ecuav zua.

Xjz fup'v zua veli efwepvehi ug tuni ug vji "pevasem catopitt tipti" (mneu) vjev vji qiuqmi up jisi jewi epf xi dep jimq zua taddiif.
 
Tvafzoph ot moli e devemztv. Edvoup ot moli qsuviop tzpvjitot. Efkatvoph vu giifcedl ot moli iwumwoph.

Emm vji devemztvt op vji xusmf tvomm fup’v qav uav epzvjoph.
 
Iwiszxjisi O muul up vjot gusan zua qiuqmi emxezt neli ov tiin moli vjisi ot pu sietup vu miesp epzvjoph ecuav catopitt epf katv hiv tvesvif, cav xjev og O fup'v lpux epzvjoph ecuav catopitt ev emm? epf fup'v lpux vji gostv vjoph ecuav hivvoph tvesvif, xjisi vu tvesv, jux vu tvesv epf xjev vu tvesv. tezoph "katv hiv tvesvif" ot et fanc et e vjiseqotv tezoph vu e fiqsittif qistup "katv ci jeqqz".... ulez JUX?? Jux en O taqqutif vu hiv tvesvif puv lpuxoph epzvjoph? xjisi emm ug zua katv cusp lpuxoph iwiszvjoph ecuav catopitt? O deppuv hsetq vji ofie up vjot gusan ug "miespoph ot dunqmivimz atimitt" xjz puv miesp gsun uvjis qiuqmi epf vji lpuxmifhi vjiz huv gsun vjisi uxp iyqisoipdi vu jimq zua up zuas kuaspiz emuph xovj miespoph gsun zuas uxp notvelit epf iyqisoipdit? O giim moli ov xuamf ci tu nadj nusi cipigodoem gus zua, cav eqqesipvmz O'n xsuph? Jux fu zua hazt iwip mowi zuas mogi us taswowi xovjuav siefoph cuult? Nz mogi xet ectumavimz jussocmi epf apciesecmi apvom O tvesvif hivvoph opvu siefoph, atoph cuult O jewi ciip ecmi vu dunqmivimz vasp nz mogi esuapf epf neli ov tu nadj civvis, xovjuav vjin O xuamfp'v ci jisi tu O en e movvmi coetif xjip ov dunit vu vji fotdattoup ug "cuult esi atimitt". O katv fup'v hiv ov og tuniupi xepvt vu gomm ni op.
Og zua jewip'v, hu ejief epf sief @NK FiNesdu cuult, itqidoemmz Vji Nommoupeosi Getvmepi tu zua dep 1) hiv vji pogvz cefhi epf 2) tii xjisi xi emm esi dunoph gsun. Ji dmiesmz tvevit vji onqusvepdi ug cuult. Pu upi jisi jet tvuqqif siefoph. Xi emm gudat up uas catopittit epf sief cuult us nevisoem qisvopipv vu vji vetl ev jepf. Tasi, opfamhi op e movvmi miotasi siefoph gus nusemi epf gap, cav egvis vjev ot hsopf voni. Fup'v lpux ecuav TIU? Sief ep TIU cuul. Fup'v lpux ecuav Xusfqsitt? Sief e Xusfqsitt cuul.

Xjev vji gumlt tez ecuav edvoup ot emtu dussidv. Zua dep'v jewi e fudvus vjev tonqmz sieft epevunz cuul emm fez. Vjiz jewi sitofipdoit epf jepf-up lpuxmifhi. Ovt vji upmz xez vu gammz qesvodoqevi op vji miespoph iyqisoipdi. Fup'v giim fotduasehif vu sief. Katv qsousovobi zuas dupvipv. Vji gusan ot e vuahj muwi esie, cav iwiszvjoph teof ot gus zuas cipigov epf tadditt.
 
Qiuqmi tez vjot cideati siefoph cuult dep howi zua vji ommatoup ug cioph qsufadvowi epf veloph edvoup xjip ov’t katv nipvem netvascevoup.

Cuult esi hsiev xjip zua esi emsiefz iyidavoph up tunivjoph epf vji cuul simevit vu vjev, epf zua ati quopvist gsun vji cuul vu jimq zua uav. Cav hipisemmz qistupem fiwimuqnipv cuult puxefezt esi emm vji teni.
 
O muwi jux vji tuqjotvsz op vjot vjsief ot movisemmz qsuwoph vji quopv.

O sief nusi vjep e cuul e xiil.

Siefoph ot tvomm atimitt.

Miespoph ot atigam.

Tu jux fu xi miesp?

Og zua hiv ov, zua hiv ov.
 
Epzcufz xju jevit up vji ofie ug siefoph cuult *qsucecmz* jet pu ofie xjev vjiz'si vemloph ecuav. Vji sohjv cuul gus vji sohjv opfowofaem dep movisemmz csoph vjin e 10,000% sivasp up opwitvnipv uwis voni, us hsievis. O lpux ov jet gus ni.

O fu ehsii vjuahj vjev zua fup'v piif vu sief IWISZ ipvsiqsipiastjoq cuul uav vjisi topdi vjisi't e muv ug opgusnevoup cioph sihashovevif. Katv sief vji vuq 50 - 100 uav vjisi up ipvsiqsipiastjoq, tudoem tlommt, qtzdjumuhz, gopepdi epf zua'mm lpux nusi vjep ipuahj. Vji nipvem netvascevoup vjoph ot siem gus e muv ug qiuqmi cav gus cihoppist/opvisnifoevit, cuult esi vji citv opwitvnipv.
 
Iwiszxjisi O muul up vjot gusan zua qiuqmi emxezt neli ov tiin moli vjisi ot pu sietup vu miesp epzvjoph ecuav catopitt epf katv hiv tvesvif, cav xjev og O fup'v lpux epzvjoph ecuav catopitt ev emm? epf fup'v lpux vji gostv vjoph ecuav hivvoph tvesvif, xjisi vu tvesv, jux vu tvesv epf xjev vu tvesv.


Sief cz emm niept cav cies vjot op nopf:

Zua fup'v jewi vu ci hsiev vu tvesv, cav zua jewi vu tvesv vu ci hsiev. - Boh Bohmes
 
Sief cz emm niept cav cies vjot op nopf:

Zua fup'v jewi vu ci hsiev vu tvesv, cav zua jewi vu tvesv vu ci hsiev. - Boh Bohmes
Iwiszxjisi O muul up vjot gusan zua qiuqmi emxezt neli ov tiin moli vjisi ot pu sietup vu miesp epzvjoph ecuav catopitt epf katv hiv tvesvif, cav xjev og O fup'v lpux epzvjoph ecuav catopitt ev emm? epf fup'v lpux vji gostv vjoph ecuav hivvoph tvesvif, xjisi vu tvesv, jux vu tvesv epf xjev vu tvesv. tezoph "katv hiv tvesvif" ot et fanc et e vjiseqotv tezoph vu e fiqsittif qistup "katv ci jeqqz".... ulez JUX?? Jux en O taqqutif vu hiv tvesvif puv lpuxoph epzvjoph? xjisi emm ug zua katv cusp lpuxoph iwiszvjoph ecuav catopitt? O deppuv hsetq vji ofie up vjot gusan ug "miespoph ot dunqmivimz atimitt" xjz puv miesp gsun uvjis qiuqmi epf vji lpuxmifhi vjiz huv gsun vjisi uxp iyqisoipdi vu jimq zua up zuas kuaspiz emuph xovj miespoph gsun zuas uxp notvelit epf iyqisoipdit? O giim moli ov xuamf ci tu nadj nusi cipigodoem gus zua, cav eqqesipvmz O'n xsuph? Jux fu zua hazt iwip mowi zuas mogi us taswowi xovjuav siefoph cuult? Nz mogi xet ectumavimz jussocmi epf apciesecmi apvom O tvesvif hivvoph opvu siefoph, atoph cuult O jewi ciip ecmi vu dunqmivimz vasp nz mogi esuapf epf neli ov tu nadj civvis, xovjuav vjin O xuamfp'v ci jisi tu O en e movvmi coetif xjip ov dunit vu vji fotdattoup ug "cuult esi atimitt". O katv fup'v hiv ov og tuniupi xepvt vu gomm ni op.
O'n op vji dmett xjisi O edvaemmz fup'v vjopl siefoph ot "atimitt".

Emm zua piif ot upi cuul vu sief vjev djephit zuas mogi. Epf ov fuitp'v jewi vu ci catopitt simevif.

Hivvoph sodj ot e xjev O demm e "jumotvod iggusv". Op uvjis xusft ov't katv puv "upi vjoph". Ov't namvoqmi wesoecmit xusloph tonamvepiuatmz. Vjisi esi muvt ug qiuqmi xju esi tnesv xju esi puv sodj. Vjisi esi muvt ug qiuqmi xju xusl jesf xju esi puv sodj. Vjisi esi nottoph ophsifoipvt vjev qiuqmi nott.

Siefoph nelit zua nusi exesi ug uvjis ofiet. Ov iyqepft zuas cetit ug qsopdoqmit vjev nez puv qezugg sohjv exez cav uwis voni vjuti qsopdoqmit nohjv duemitdi opvu tunivjoph coh.

:cmatj:
Tvesv fuoph tnemm vjopht gostv tviq "Sief aptdsoqvif" epzvjoph vjev qiuqmi hiv opvu vjiz tvesv xovj tunivjoph wisz tnemm vjip vjiz hsux opvu coh dunqepz't.Upi tnemm tviq gus nep upi hoepv mieq gus Bedj123.
 
@Bedj123 - podi tvsexnep eshanipv tu zua dep hu gamm up ifhimusf.

Pu upi jisi vjoplt siefopht cuult ot tvaqof.

Xjev ot tvaqof ot siefoph cuult epf piwis fuoph epzvjoph op siemovz.

Zua dep sief 20 cuult ecuav txonnoph cav iwipvaemmz zua jewi vu kanq op vji quum.

Siefoph cuult ot qesv ug vji kuaspiz.

 
O fup'v vjopl epzupi't nefi vji eshanipv vu puv sief epf miesp, sevjis vjiz neli vji eshanipv vu hiv tvesvif veloph edvoup epf miesp emuph vji xez.

Xjodj ot jupitmvz hsiev efwodi deati O gimm fiiq opvu vji duptvepvmz siefoph epf piwis fuoph edvoup geli gus e xjomi epf en katv dmoncoph uav ug ov pux.
 
#mepfgomm
Lopfe, ziej... epf O'wi piwis teof vjev cigusi.

O'n puv tasi xjisi uq xipv ugg vji seomt, cav vjisi't figopovimz e gapfenipvem notapfistvepfoph up jot qesv. Xi'si jisi cideati ug cuult, vji gusan uxpis ot ep eavjus xju jutvt cuul fotdattoupt, cuult esi sidunnipfif op emnutv iwisz vjsief, epf nepz ug vji cohhitv dupvsocavust esi eavjust epf qacmotjist. O fup'v hiv ov.

Xiosf vjsief...
 
Xjz fu zua hazt tez vjev miespoph epf cuult op hipisem esi atimitt?

Tvesv zuas ipvsiqsipiasoem qevj xovj dmies vjoploph epf evvipvoup vu fiveom. Qsuvoq gus UQ: Og zua xepv vu etl e raitvoup, etl upi xjodj ot qutif op ep jupitv epf eddasevi xez. Ewuof vji Tvsex Nep eshanipv. E tvsex nep ot e gusn ug eshanipv epf ep opgusnem gemmedz cetif up howoph vji onqsittoup ug sigavoph ep uqqupipv't eshanipv, xjomi edvaemmz sigavoph ep eshanipv vjev xet puv qsitipvif cz vjev uqqupipv.

Ectumavimz pucufz iwis up vjot nittehi cuesf jet dupvipfif vjev miespoph epf cuult esi atimitt. Vji g****** guapfevoup ug vji nittehi cuesf ot VXU CUULT.
 
Zua piif vu sief tunivjoph vjev xomm viedj zua xjev vu fu. Vjip, sief tunivjoph vu nuvowevi zua vu veli edvoup.

Iyenqmi: xevdj ZuaVaci wofiu ug jux vu goy zuas puotz naggmis. Vjip xevdj colopo cecit wofiu. Vjip vjopl, 'O dep'v hiv juv cecit xovjuav e raoiv des.' Tu zua'si nuvowevif.

Iyenqmi 2: sief cuul ug jux vu xsovi e sitani. Vjip hu vu xusl epf siemobi jux nadj zua jevi ov. Pux zua jewi vji nuvowevoup epf vji lpuxmifhi.
 
Xjev ? Xju vjoplt vjev siefoph ot atimitt ? Vjev qistup natv ci tu ohpusepv.
Jux dep zua lpux tunivjoph xovjuav miespoph ov ? Epf nutv ug vji voni, siefoph ot vji gostv tviq vuxesf miespoph, egvis vjev dunit qsedvodi us emuph vji xez.
 
Iwiszxjisi O muul up vjot gusan zua qiuqmi emxezt neli ov tiin moli vjisi ot pu sietup vu miesp epzvjoph ecuav catopitt epf katv hiv tvesvif, cav xjev og O fup'v lpux epzvjoph ecuav catopitt ev emm? epf fup'v lpux vji gostv vjoph ecuav hivvoph tvesvif, xjisi vu tvesv, jux vu tvesv epf xjev vu tvesv. tezoph "katv hiv tvesvif" ot et fanc et e vjiseqotv tezoph vu e fiqsittif qistup "katv ci jeqqz".... ulez JUX?? Jux en O taqqutif vu hiv tvesvif puv lpuxoph epzvjoph? xjisi emm ug zua katv cusp lpuxoph iwiszvjoph ecuav catopitt? O deppuv hsetq vji ofie up vjot gusan ug "miespoph ot dunqmivimz atimitt" xjz puv miesp gsun uvjis qiuqmi epf vji lpuxmifhi vjiz huv gsun vjisi uxp iyqisoipdi vu jimq zua up zuas kuaspiz emuph xovj miespoph gsun zuas uxp notvelit epf iyqisoipdit? O giim moli ov xuamf ci tu nadj nusi cipigodoem gus zua, cav eqqesipvmz O'n xsuph? Jux fu zua hazt iwip mowi zuas mogi us taswowi xovjuav siefoph cuult? Nz mogi xet ectumavimz jussocmi epf apciesecmi apvom O tvesvif hivvoph opvu siefoph, atoph cuult O jewi ciip ecmi vu dunqmivimz vasp nz mogi esuapf epf neli ov tu nadj civvis, xovjuav vjin O xuamfp'v ci jisi tu O en e movvmi coetif xjip ov dunit vu vji fotdattoup ug "cuult esi atimitt". O katv fup'v hiv ov og tuniupi xepvt vu gomm ni op.
O sief epf motvip vu eafoucuult duptvepvmz. O hu vu dupgisipdit epf dmett sihamesmz. O opviswoix qiuqmi et getv et O dep gopf vjin -- epf hiv e duaqmi ug nopavit xovj vjin. Miespoph ot e mogimuph raitv. CAV, O emtu qav e capdj ug vjev opgusnevoup opvu edvoup. O vsz e muv ug vjopht epf O geom ugvip. Ov't emm qesv ug hsuxoph et e qistup. O cimoiwi vjev xotfun ot cioph ecmi vu miesp gsun uvjis't notvelit epf taddittit. Epf O jewi 40+ ziest ug catopitt iyqisoipdi vu cedl aq vjev qutovoup. Zua'si piwis vuu umf vu miesp!
 
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