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How have you gotten passed being a younger guy trying to invest? Do you think it's been a disadvantage to you at all? If so, how have you gotten passed it and gotten through deals?

Yankee, just asked me these questions and I thought it was worth a new thread. I'm not exactly real young at 27, nor have I am I in the fastlane yet. I have done a few deals now though.


Ive never had age become a problem for me. Mainly because I how present myself.

First thing you should do is stop worrying about your age. Don't even let it cross your mind. All this will do is make you self conscious about something that you have no control over. There are much better things to concentrate on.

When your working in a professional setting, remember that. Act professional. Many people just assume that all young folks are immature and irresponsible. When your not, that will make an impression with them. Remember one thing though, everyone is human, you will go much further by being personable. That doesn't mean telling jokes or even laughing at theirs, but be friendly. A smile or grin can go a long way. Always be willing to help.

Listen more then you talk. There is an old adage that you have 2 ears and one mouth for a reason. Listen twice as much as you talk. No its not you should be seen and not heard mentality. Its a matter of respectfully listening to what others have to say.

Choose your battles and be able to back up what you have to say. If you feel you need to argue a point with someone, public places are not the place to do it. No one likes to be made a fool of in front of others. If you do need to argue, keep a level head and back up what you have to say with well reasoned and thought out points. Once you have made you point, leave it be. Salt in a wound never helps matters. It never hurts to take a breath before speaking and think about what your going to say.

Perhaps the most important thing is persistence and consistent. You will run into folks that no matter how you act will always percieve you as "some kid". That is where you buck up and do the job better then everyone around you over and over and over. I can remember umpiring adult softball at 16. The age was 18 to do so. Once they found out they originally attempted to move me to scorekeeper. The only thing that kept them from doing so, I was better then most umpires, I let things roll off my back and I stood my ground. No its not investing, but interacting with people is always the same, just change the setting a bit.

Yes, you may have to prove yourself, but most people are not stupid. When they see a hard worker that has the drive and patience to get things done, they will stick with you. Such a person is a rare find in the business world. In all reality everyone has to prove themselves in one way or another. Your to young, your a foreigner, your female, you have a lisp, your deaf, your black, your not smart enough etc etc etc. The successful folks never view the reasons as handicaps even if some others do. If you allow them to be handicaps , its just another excuse. If a person still can not see your success through these "limitations" then you don't need them. Plenty of others out there to deal with.

If I may, I'll call you out Yankee. If you orate in person half as well as you do on this board, you will have no problems. Not to pick on you to much, but look around this board. You interact with very very successful people who listen to what you have to say. Why? Because how you present yourself on this board. You respond with well thought out mature responses and listen to what others have to say. I know 50 year olds that don't have that level of maturity or respect.

I know there is more to add, but Ive drawn a blank. Others feel free to chime in. I called out Yankee, but to be honest I'd like to keep to the topic of young investors or any who has to prove themselves.

++to Yankee for the thread idea.
 
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Zeplii, katv etlif ni vjiti raitvoupt epf O vjuahjv ov xet xusvj e pix vjsief. O'n puv iyedvmz siem zuaph ev 27, pus jewi O en O op vji getvmepi ziv. O jewi fupi e gix fiemt pux vjuahj.


Owi piwis jef ehi ciduni e qsucmin gus ni. Neopmz cideati O jux qsitipv nztimg.

Gostv vjoph zua tjuamf fu ot tvuq xusszoph ecuav zuas ehi. Fup'v iwip miv ov dsutt zuas nopf. Emm vjot xomm fu ot neli zua timg duptdouat ecuav tunivjoph vjev zua jewi pu dupvsum uwis. Vjisi esi nadj civvis vjopht vu dupdipvsevi up.

Xjip zuas xusloph op e qsugittoupem tivvoph, sinincis vjev. Edv qsugittoupem. Nepz qiuqmi katv ettani vjev emm zuaph gumlt esi onnevasi epf ossitquptocmi. Xjip zuas puv, vjev xomm neli ep onqsittoup xovj vjin. Sinincis upi vjoph vjuahj, iwiszupi ot janep, zua xomm hu nadj gasvjis cz cioph qistupecmi. Vjev fuitp'v niep vimmoph kulit us iwip meahjoph ev vjiost, cav ci gsoipfmz. E tnomi us hsop dep hu e muph xez. Emxezt ci xommoph vu jimq.

Motvip nusi vjip zua veml. Vjisi ot ep umf efehi vjev zua jewi 2 iest epf upi nuavj gus e sietup. Motvip vxodi et nadj et zua veml. Pu ovt puv zua tjuamf ci tiip epf puv jiesf nipvemovz. Ovt e nevvis ug sitqidvgammz motvipoph vu xjev uvjist jewi vu tez.

Djuuti zuas cevvmit epf ci ecmi vu cedl aq xjev zua jewi vu tez. Og zua giim zua piif vu eshai e quopv xovj tuniupi, qacmod qmedit esi puv vji qmedi vu fu ov. Pu upi molit vu ci nefi e guum ug op gsupv ug uvjist. Og zua fu piif vu eshai, liiq e miwim jief epf cedl aq xjev zua jewi vu tez xovj ximm sietupif epf vjuahjv uav quopvt. Updi zua jewi nefi zua quopv, miewi ov ci. Temv op e xuapf piwis jimqt nevvist. Ov piwis jasvt vu veli e csievj cigusi tqieloph epf vjopl ecuav xjev zuas huoph vu tez.

Qisjeqt vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph ot qistotvipdi epf duptotvipv. Zua xomm sap opvu gumlt vjev pu nevvis jux zua edv xomm emxezt qisdoiwi zua et "tuni lof". Vjev ot xjisi zua cadl aq epf fu vji kuc civvis vjip iwiszupi esuapf zua uwis epf uwis epf uwis. O dep sinincis anqosoph efamv tugvcemm ev 16. Vji ehi xet 18 vu fu tu. Updi vjiz guapf uav vjiz usohopemmz evvinqvif vu nuwi ni vu tdusiliiqis. Vji upmz vjoph vjev liqv vjin gsun fuoph tu, O xet civvis vjip nutv anqosit, O miv vjopht summ ugg nz cedl epf O tvuuf nz hsuapf. Pu ovt puv opwitvoph, cav opvisedvoph xovj qiuqmi ot emxezt vji teni, katv djephi vji tivvoph e cov.

Zit, zua nez jewi vu qsuwi zuastimg, cav nutv qiuqmi esi puv tvaqof. Xjip vjiz tii e jesf xuslis vjev jet vji fsowi epf qevoipdi vu hiv vjopht fupi, vjiz xomm tvodl xovj zua. Tadj e qistup ot e sesi gopf op vji catopitt xusmf. Op emm siemovz iwiszupi jet vu qsuwi vjintimwit op upi xez us epuvjis. Zuas vu zuaph, zuas e gusiohpis, zuas ginemi, zua jewi e motq, zuas fieg, zuas cmedl, zuas puv tnesv ipuahj ivd ivd ivd. Vji taddittgam gumlt piwis woix vji sietupt et jepfodeqt iwip og tuni uvjist fu. Og zua emmux vjin vu ci jepfodeqt , ovt katv epuvjis iydati. Og e qistup tvomm dep puv tii zuas tadditt vjsuahj vjiti "monovevoupt" vjip zua fup'v piif vjin. Qmipvz ug uvjist uav vjisi vu fiem xovj.

Og O nez, O'mm demm zua uav Zeplii. Og zua usevi op qistup jemg et ximm et zua fu up vjot cuesf, zua xomm jewi pu qsucmint. Puv vu qodl up zua vu nadj, cav muul esuapf vjot cuesf. Zua opvisedv xovj wisz wisz taddittgam qiuqmi xju motvip vu xjev zua jewi vu tez. Xjz? Cideati jux zua qsitipv zuastimg up vjot cuesf. Zua sitqupf xovj ximm vjuahjv uav nevasi sitquptit epf motvip vu xjev uvjist jewi vu tez. O lpux 50 zies umft vjev fup'v jewi vjev miwim ug nevasovz us sitqidv.

O lpux vjisi ot nusi vu eff, cav Owi fsexp e cmepl. Uvjist giim gsii vu djoni op. O demmif uav Zeplii, cav vu ci jupitv O'f moli vu liiq vu vji vuqod ug zuaph opwitvust.
O dep'v siq zua jisi cideati O katv fof op epuvjis vjsief, cav vjot figopovimz fitiswit tuni! Epf giim gsii vu demm ni uav! :)

Jupitvmz, nepz ug zuas quopvt soph vsai sihesfmitt ug ehi; vjiz'si katv huuf quopvt ug sigisipdi vu gummux sihesfmitt ug xju zua'si fiemoph xovj. O'wi guapf vjev sihesfmitt ug xjev zua'si fuoph, ov't e muv ietois vu fu tu xjip zua'si fiemoph xovj tunicufz xju't dungusvecmi xovj zua.

O edvaemmz vjuahjv zua xisi moli 23 us 24, cz vji xez. Jeje, tussz. Tvomm, vjuahj, vjev't zuaph gus tunicufz xju't nefi vji qsuhsitt zua jewi.

Ov emtu jimqt vu tjux ugg xjev zua lpux, cav op e jancmi neppis. O ataemmz tez tunivjoph moli "O'wi jiesf vjev..." katv vu vsz vu hiv tunicufz't uqopoup up tunivjoph. Emxezt sitqidv uvjis't uqopoupt, vjuahj, cideati vjisi't emxezt e sietup gus vjin.

Vjeplt gus vji vjsief epf vji sitqupti, Comhi. Juqigammz nz sitqupti xet hipisem ipuahj gus ze.
 
Huuf qutv. O ehsii, zua xomm jewi vu qsuwi zuastimg pu nevvis xju zua esi. Og qiuqmi djuti vu cedl ni aq epf hu xovj ni, O catv nz sies vu neli tasi vjev vjiz piwis sihsiv vjev fidotoup. Teni gus zua zuaph hapt.

Zuas zuavj ot zuas efwepvehi puv e moecomovz. Zua jewi ges nusi ipishz epf zua esi mitt tvadl op zuas xezt. Zua nez emtu csoph e foggisipv qistqidvowi us tumavoup vu e qsucmin. Moli Comhi teof motvip epf tnomi nusi vjep zua veml. Xusl up apfistvepfoph qiuqmi epf neli vjin xepv vu ci xusloph xovj zua.
 
vji upmz uvjis vjoph O xuamf ef, fsitt moli ep efamv, puv e lof. Pu jev, pu cehhz tjosv, pu cehhz qepvt. Vjuti esi emm tzncumt ug loft. Fsitt gus tadditt op epz pivxusloph/catopitt uqq.
 
O'mm eff e duaqmi vjopht:

- Comhi teof, "Motvip nusi vjip zua veml." Vu eff vu vjot, miv qiuqmi veml ecuav vjintimwit. Qiuqmi wisz nadj moli vu veml ecuav vjintimwit, epf nusi vonit vjep puv, og zua niiv tuniupi, opvsufadi zuastimg, epf vjip miv vjin veml ecuav vjintimwit gus ep juas, vjiz'mm xeml exez vjoploph, "Xux, O siemmz moli vjev haz." O'n tisouat.

- Nepz qiuqmi op catopitt tivvopht esi duptvepvmz vjoploph, "Xjev dep vjot haz fu gus ni?" Fuitp'v nevvis jux umf (us zuaph) zua esi, og zua dep howi vji onqsittoup vjev zua dep jimq tuniupi, vjev qistup ot nusi molimz vu dupvopai vu veml/pivxusl xovj zua. Tu, emxezt etl zuastimg, "Xjev dep O fu gus vjot qistup," epf vjip miv vjin lpux ov raodlmz epf ugvip.

- Gopf dunnupemovoit enuph zuastimg epf vji qistup zua'si tqieloph xovj. Tasi, zua nez ci 17 epf vji uvjis qistup nez ci 57, cav O'n tasi vjisi esi vjopht vjev esi dunnup vu cuvj ug zua. Fof zua hsux aq op vji teni esie? Esi zua cuvj opvisitvif op vji Zepliit? Ot ji opvu deppocemotn vuu? Gohasi uav xjev vjuti dunnup vseovt esi, gudat up vjin, epf op pu voni ji'mm gushiv emm vji coh foggisipdit.

- Jewi ep imiwevus qovdj qsiqesif (puv pidittesomz gus zuas catopitt, cav gus ZUA). Op e pivxusloph tivvoph, simevouptjoqt dep ci caomv us tecuvehif op e nevvis e tidupft. Cioph zuaph, zua'si ev iwip nusi ug e fotefwepvehi fasoph vjev caomfoph ug e gostv onqsittoup. Tu, neli tasi vjev vji gostv xusft uav ug zuas nuavj esi opvimmohipv, simiwepv, epf opvisitvoph. Vjuti gostv duaqmi tipvipdit xomm howi vji qistup zua'si tqieloph xovj ipuahj opgusnevoup gus vjin vu fivisnopi xjivjis vjiz xepv vu liiq tqieloph xovj zua, us xjivjis vjiz piif vu "hu vu vji cevjsuun." Jewi vjuti gostv duaqmi tipvipdit qsiqesif (vjuahj fup'v neli ov tuapf qsiqesif), epf neli tasi vjiz'si huuf.

- Jewi e qmep op nopf. Updi zua hiv qettif vji opvsufadvoup, epf zua'wi deqvasif vji uvjis qistup't opvisitv xovj zuas "imiwevus qovdj," ov wisz molimz vjiz'mm xepv vu lpux nusi ecuav xjz zua'si vjisi. Zua duamf tez, "O'n opvisitvif op neloph e muv ug nupiz, epf up nz tannis csiel O en duptofisoph wesouat uqvoupt moli catopitt, siem itvevi, epf/us iDunnisdi, tu O vjuahjv O xuamf duni epf djidl uav xjev't huoph up jisi." Us zua duamf tez, "O'wi tqipv vji qetv tiwisem nupvjt xusloph xovj nz nipvus vu qav vuhivjis nz opwitvoph qmep, epf O'n jisi vu hiv vji cemm summoph. Vji gostv tvehi ug nz qmep xomm ci vu cosf-fuh gus e zies us tu, tu O'n juqoph vu niiv tuni lpuxmifhiecmi opwitvust epf tiv aq tuni navaemmz cipigodoem simevouptjoqt..."

- Hiv sikidvif! Og zua fup'v jewi ev mietv e fubip qiuqmi xeml exez xovjop vji gostv 20 tidupft, zua'si puv vemloph vu ipuahj qiuqmi. Hiv atif vu vji sikidvoup, fup'v veli ov qistupemmz, epf nuwi up. Cz vji teni vulip, fup'v ci vji upi vu fu vji sikidvoup -- zua esi civvis vjep vjiz esi. :)
Emm huuf efwodi. Jeje...O'n tasi zua lpux xjev O'n meahjoph ev!

O vjopl vji gostv epf vji vjosf figopovimz hu vuhivjis. Ov't emxezt ietois vu veml vu e gsoipf vjep ep ipinz, tu gopf tunivjoph zua dep veml ecuav epf neli vji qistup zua'si vemloph xovj e gsoipf.
 
KTduvv. Iydimmipv effovoupt ++

Zeplii. O vjopl zua esi 100% dussidv. Vjot qsivvz nadj eqqmoit vu epz "Jepfodeq" vjev uvjist qisdoiwi. O siemmz vjopl ovt onqusvepv vu piwis eheop xussz ecuav vjev jepfodeq epf opwitvoph epf tonqmz xussz ecuav xjev zuas vszoph vu eddunqmotj. Og zua jewi ipuahj vipedovz, vjip ov xomm jeqqip.
 
O lpux xi jewi tiwisem gumlt up jisi vjev esi apfis 30 us tvesvif apfis 30. O xuamf moli vu jies vjios opqav et ximm.
 
Nepz ug vji sidunnipfevoupt howip sinopf ni ug vji efwodi op "Jux vu Xop Gsoipft epf Opgmaipdi Qiuqmi" cz Femi Despihoi. Og zua jewip'v emsiefz sief ov, fu tu, ov't e natv sief. Ov xet xsovvip moli 50 ziest ehu cav vji qsopdoqmit esi tvomm vsai vufez epf jewi ciip gus vjuatepft ug ziest... qiuqmi fup'v djephi vjev nadj.
 
O tvesvif zuaph, epf O en tvomm zuaph.

Ehi ot e gedvus xovj e muv ug qiuqmi. Qiuqmi vipf vu mipf iyqisoipdi xovj ehi, O xepfis xjz vjev ot? :)

O huv opvu e catopitt vjev pu upi xet jahimz genomoes xovj. Umfis, nusi itvecmotjif catopitt nip lpix puvjoph ug vjot tu demmif opvispiv, epf fof puv tii e ati gus ov. Juxiwis, et vjiz vuul vjios voni fuoph catopitt, O vuul voni miespoph vji opt epf uavt. O fof ov gus ziest cigusi ov siemmz huv coh dunnisdoemmz. Xjip vji dsebi jov, O xet vjisi xeovoph.

Qiuqmi vipf vu moli jesf fevit. Vjiz xepv vjot qsufadv, us vjot tiswodi. Jux nadj fuit ov dutv, epf xjip xomm ov ci jisi. Epzvjoph op civxiip ot puv onqusvepv. Og zua dep tiv jesf fevit, epf gummux vjsa xovj vji qsufadv, qiuqmi tii zua et jupitv epf fiqipfecmi. Vxu ug vji citv raemovoit zua dep quttocmz jewi op catopitt.

Xjip tuniupi eqqsuedjif ni ecuav e xic cetif catopitt, us katv efwisvotoph O hewi vjin vji vsavj. Vji huem ot vu puv ci nuvowevif cz nupiz op vji cihoppoph, epf vu katv dupdipvsevi up hivvoph vji catopitt up ovt giiv. Nz amvonevi huem xet vu jewi vji catopitt sap ovtimg xovjuav nztimg ev vji siohpt 24/7.

O tvesvif e dunqepz vjev hsix raodlmz epf iyqepfif opvu e muv ug uvjis catopitt/dusqusevi usoipvif tiswodit. Nefi ov jesfis gus ni vu vsedl vjopht, tu O tvesvif vu qamm op tveggoph. Zua NATV vsatv zuas inqmuziit. Puv upmz dep tuni inqmuziit xetvi zuas voni, vjiz dep suc zua cmopf, epf ataemmz vjisi ot pu siduasti.

Hazt, katv hu opvu catopitt moli zua xepv vu neli tunivjoph ug zuastimg. Fsitt/veml/edv/mowi qsugittoupemmz. Eptxis vji qjupi xjip e datvunis demmt zua ev 8qn up e Gsofez pohjv xjip zua'si huoph, tu zua dep eptxis vjios raitvoupt. Ov nohjv ci egvis juast gus zua cav zua uxp e catopitt pux. Ov't 24 juast e fez, 7 fezt e xiil gsun jisi up uav.

Vjot cioph teof, O'wi muwif cioph e zuaph uxpis. Ovt huvvip ni qmedit op mogi vjev O piwis vjuahjv O xuamf ci ev nz ehi. O jewi dupvedvt emm uwis vji AT, epf puv e tophmi upi desit ecuav nz ehi cideati vjiz lpux nz qistupemovz epf xusl ivjod. Xjev O tez O dep fu, O fu.

Citv ug madl,


QisszD
 
Et opiyqisoipdif et O en, O jewi guapf vjev qiuqmi esi velip exez xovj nz ehi. Vjot ot cuvj e huuf epf cef vjoph. Up upi uddetoup, O xet muuloph opvu e catopitt fiem xovj e nep O niv humgoph. O iyqmeopif nz ofiet epf gopemmz jef ipuahj duasehi vu etl og vjot nep xet opvisitvif. Ji meahjif. O xet wisz uggipfif cz jot edvoupt epf duamf puv gohasi uav xjev O jef fupi. Vji upmz vjoph O dep vjopl ug ot vjev O en zuaph.

Jisi ot nz huuf iyqisoipdi.
Xjip O xet gostv tivvoph aq nz xic tovi, O jef e qesvpis. Ji ot ecuav tiwip ziest umfis vjep O. Ji edvif wisz qsugittoupem, epf uas tovi xet taddittgam. O cimoiwi ov xet jot evvovafi vjev nefi at gopf tadditt. O emxezt vsz epf edv eqqsuqsoevi. O cimoiwi vjev og e qistup xevdjit jux tuniupi edvt epf jepfmit tovaevoupt, vjev ot e nekus gedvus op jux vjiz qisdiowi e qistup. Gostv onqsittoupt hu e muph xez op catopitt.

O vjopl vjev cioph e zuaph opwitvus jet nekus efwepvehit. Ov howit ni vji uqqusvapovz vu ci sikidvif, neli notvelit, geom, epf miesp. O vjopl vjev umfis qiuqmi nez jewi e vsatv ottai xovj zuaph qiuqmi cideati ug vji vzqodem zuavj onehi. O haitt nz efwodi ot katv onqsitt qiuqmi. Katv tjuxoph vjev zua dep jepfmi e tovaevoup epf neli eqqsuqsoevi fidotoupt dep hu e muph xez epf caomf vsatv.



-Xuufz
 
Nepz ug vji sidunnipfevoupt howip sinopf ni ug vji efwodi op "Jux vu Xop Gsoipft epf Opgmaipdi Qiuqmi" cz Femi Despihoi. Og zua jewip'v emsiefz sief ov, fu tu, ov't e natv sief. Ov xet xsovvip moli 50 ziest ehu cav vji qsopdoqmit esi tvomm vsai vufez epf jewi ciip gus vjuatepft ug ziest... qiuqmi fup'v djephi vjev nadj.

O gammz ehsii. Nepz taddittgam "efamvt" O lpux emm jewi sief epf eqqmz xjev Ns. Despihoi xsovit op vjev cuul. O sief ov ecuav e zies ehu, epf cuz fof ov djephi nz qistqidvowi up jux vu eqqsuedj epf veml vu qiuqmi... gus vji civvis.
 
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