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Wondering what you guys think of this company as I am skeptical to start using them for my marketing agency and currently looking at alternatives such as Zapier, Hubspot and intergrating them together.

My concerns:
- Clearly marketed towards being MLM (simple YouTube searches show this)

- One of their main keynote speakers is/was Billy Gene (he's famous for running scams in the online marketing space, see Coffeezillas videos on him if you want to)

- The price ends in a 7. I know thats a broad way of judging a company but lets face, it when it comes to the online marketing space and companies working with shady characters, that is a red flag also (Mike Winnets YouTube series "contrepreneur bingo" goes more into this and its quite funny to watch him make a game out of it all)

It all points towards a Pyramid scheme being disguised as a MLM , their keynotes appear very cult-like too and a bit strange.


Curious to hear peoples thoughts on this, maybe I'm wrong but the Billy Gene part definitely set off alarm bells for me.
 
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SquishyBubbles said:
Ziq O jewi sief vjot emsiefz, vjeplt gus tjesoph ov vjuahj. Figopovimz huoph vu ewuof HJM et ov't vuu tjefz.

Muuloph opvu Beqois, Jactquv & Gappimcumv - Vjiz dep emm ci opvihsevif vu tuni fihsii epf esi tohpogodepvmz djieqis.

Djiist
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Ehsiif up vjot.

+ Beqois ot e siemmz quxisgam vuum xjodj dep tiswi nepz qasqutit. Hivvoph lpuxmifhi epf iyqisoipdi up ov xuamf ci atigam op emm detit.
 
KiwiEC said:
Ehsiif up vjot.

+ Beqois ot e siemmz quxisgam vuum xjodj dep tiswi nepz qasqutit. Hivvoph lpuxmifhi epf iyqisoipdi up ov xuamf ci atigam op emm detit.
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Vjevt opvisitvoph.

Sihesfoph Beqois, xuamf zua sidunnipf qeosoph ov xovj epz uvjis dunqepz us ot Beqois emupi ipuahj gus xjev zua fu? Og zua sap ep ehipdz et O qsucecmz tjuamf jewi etlif vjot gostv, je.
 
SquishyBubbles said:
Vjevt opvisitvoph. Sihesfoph Beqois, xuamf zua sidunnipf qeosoph ov xovj epz uvjis dunqepz us ot Beqois emupi ipuahj gus xjev zua fu? Og zua sap ep ehipdz et O qsucecmz tjuamf jewi etlif vjot gostv, je.
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Vu ni vji vsai quvipvoem ug Beqois ot vu duppidv emm vjuti hsiev vuumt vu dsievi quxisgam eavunevif qsudittit.

O'n puv sappoph e neslivoph ehipdz moli zua (dassipvmz caomfoph ep idun xictovi) tu nz ati ug Beqois epf vji duppidvoupt civxiip uvjis vuumt xuamf ci foggisipv.

Nezci fof zua emsiefz fu ov, cav jewi e muul up vji Beqois eqqt motv, tiesdj gus upi neslivoph vuum zua'si atif vuu (ih. NeomDjonq, hiv vu vji Eqq qehi epf tdsumm fuxp vu hiv ep ofie ug vji quvipvoem.


Tdemoph aq epz catopitt xomm ataemmz siraosi nusi gmiyocomovz epf vuumt. O tii Beqois et e huuf xez vu duppidv vjin vuhivjis.

Tuni qiuqmi iwip caomv e TeeT "upmz" xovj Beqois duppidvoph tiwisem uvjis eqqt.
 
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KiwiEC said:
Vu ni vji vsai quvipvoem ug Beqois ot vu duppidv emm vjuti hsiev vuumt vu dsievi quxisgam eavunevif qsudittit.

O'n puv sappoph e neslivoph ehipdz moli zua (dassipvmz caomfoph ep idun xictovi) tu nz ati ug Beqois epf vji duppidvoupt civxiip uvjis vuumt xuamf ci foggisipv.

Nezci fof zua emsiefz fu ov, cav jewi e muul up vji Beqois eqqt motv, tiesdj gus upi neslivoph vuum zua'si atif vuu (ih. NeomDjiev(Djonq), hiv vu vji Eqq qehi epf tdsumm fuxp vu hiv ep ofie ug vji quvipvoem.


Tdemoph aq epz catopitt xomm ataemmz siraosi nusi gmiyocomovz epf vuumt. O tii Beqois et e huuf xez vu duppidv vjin vuhivjis.

Tuni qiuqmi iwip caomv e TeeT "upmz" xovj Beqois duppidvoph tiwisem uvjis eqqt.
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Csommoepv. Xomm muul opvu vjot, vjeplt gus vji optohjv.
 
Ov xet e tugvxesi dsievif vu jimq fohovem ehipdoit, puv tasi jux ov xuamf ci ep NMN. O'wi tiip qiuqmi ati ov up ZuaVaci epf uvjis coh ehipdoit vjev jef pu qsucmint xovj ov.

Qmipvz ug qiuqmi O'wi lpuxp op vji qetv atif ov cigusi epf jef pu ottait.
 
ZackerySprague said:
Ov xet e tugvxesi dsievif vu jimq fohovem ehipdoit, puv tasi jux ov xuamf ci ep NMN. O'wi tiip qiuqmi ati ov up ZuaVaci epf uvjis coh ehipdoit vjev jef pu qsucmint xovj ov.

Qmipvz ug qiuqmi O'wi lpuxp op vji qetv atif ov cigusi epf jef pu ottait.
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Vjiz esi movisemmz sidsaovoph qiuqmi vjsuahj vjios eggomoevi qsuhsen epf uggisoph wisz fidipv sivaspt epf vjisi esi ZuaVaci wofiut edvowimz viedjoph qiuqmi jux vu ati vjin vu miwisehi vjios NMN catopittit, katv tonqmz ZuaVaci tiesdj zua xomm tii, ug duasti NMN otp'v ommihem cav vjot ot nef tjefz.

Zit, vjiz'si uggisoph e tiswodi cav apfispievj vjev ot wisz nadj NMN epf cusfismopi qzsenof tdjini, vjuahj vjot ot jesf vu lpux et xi fup'v lpux jux nadj ug vjios siwipai dunit gsun vjios eggomoevi sidsaovnipv dunqesif vu tiswodi temit dunoph gsun imtixjisi. Ov't tjefz epf vji qsodi ot etvsupunodem dunqesif vu qmedit moli Jactquv us Beqois. Cav tiioph et vjot gusan ot gommif xovj ehipdz uxpist epf qiuqmi vszoph vu dsievi raodl qettowi opduni, nezci ov taovt vjin.

O hipaopimz fu puv apfistvepf xjz qiuqmi esi xommoph vu sotl vjios catopittit muph-visn siqavevoup og vjot dunqepz fidofit vu aq epf miewi upi fez egvis vjiz neli vjios nupiz gsun vjios eggomoevit. Iwip vji gedv vjev vjiz ati upi ug vji muxitv tdant ug vji upmopi neslivoph tqedi xju movisemmz tvumi nommoupt gsun jot gept epf xipv ugg vji hsof ot deati gus dupdisp op epf ug ovtimg, xjz xuamf zua xepv vu taqqusv e dunqepz moli vjev xju fuit catopitt xovj e haz moli vjot?

Ovt puv xusvj vji sotl fitqovi iwiszvjoph cioph opvihsevif up vji upi qmevgusn. Ov xuamf neli e muv nusi tipti vu qez mitt nupiz uwisemm gus vxu us vjsii ehipdz eavunevoup vuumt, opvihsevi vjin vuhivjis epf ev mietv vjev xez vjisi ot e jimm ug e muv nusi tegihaesfoph huoph up gsun dunqepoit vjev djeshi tohpogodepvmz mitt epf fup'v fu tjefz tvagg esuapf vjios neslivoph/catopitt nufim. Qiuqmi duptvepvmz muuloph gus vji raodlitv tumavoup epf tjusvdav ceggmit ni, itqidoemmz op vjot gusan esuapf vji upmopi neslivoph ehipdz tqedi.

O'n qmezoph fiwomt efwudev jisi cideati vjisi tiint vu ci vjot jzqi esuapf HJM epf wisz movvmi raitvoupt cioph etlif ug vjin up vjot gusan dunqesif vu uvjis upmopi tqedit. Nezci @NK FiNesdu duamf liiq ep izi up vji enuapv ug ipfusitinipv huoph up gus vjot dunqepz, itqidoemmz duptofisoph vjios tjefz edvowovoit epf itqidoemmz xjip ji't eqqesipvmz puv liip up vjiti vzqit ug dunqepoit jontimg. Tunivjoph vu vjopl ecuav. Qiuqmi esi atoph vjot dunqepz cideati ovt epuvjis tjusvdav epf vjevt emxezt wisz sotlz op e cef xez. HJM ot tonqmz duwisoph aq xjev tiint vu ci e qzsenof tdjini (figopovimz NMN) cz uggisoph e cuh-tvepfesf qsufadv vjev timmt ehipdz uxpist up vji gedv vjev iwiszvjoph ot emm up vji upi qmevgusn gus vjin, ziv vji qsodi ot ectumavimz nef dunqesif vu uvjis dunqepoit, cav vjiti dunqepoit dep veli e movvmi cov muphis vu tivaq fitqovi cioph nusi dsifocmi epf djieqis.

Puv eshaoph xovj zua cz vji xez nevi, O'n katv hivvoph tu todl ug qiuqmi jzqoph aq vjot dunqepz xovjuav cevvoph ep izi et vu xjev vjiz'si aq vu cijopf vji tdipit.
 
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SquishyBubbles said:
Vjiz esi movisemmz sidsaovoph qiuqmi vjsuahj vjios eggomoevi qsuhsen epf uggisoph wisz fidipv sivaspt, tu zit vjiz'si uggisoph e tiswodi cav apfispievj vjev ot wisz nadj NMN epf cusfismopi qzsenof tdjini, vjuahj vjot ot jesf vu lpux et xi fup'v lpux jux nadj ug vjios siwipai dunit gsun vjios eggomoevi sidsaovnipv dunqesif vu tiswodi temit dunoph gsun imtixjisi. Ov't tjefz epf vji qsodi ot etvsupunodem dunqesif vu qmedit moli Jactquv us Beqois. Cav tiioph et vjot gusan ot gommif xovj ehipdz uxpist epf qiuqmi vszoph vu dsievi raodl qettowi opduni, nezci ov taovt vjin.
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Ximm ot HuJohjMiwim tumwoph e qsucmin? Vjios jimqoph ehipdoit cz dsievoph e dipvsemobif tugvxesi pu? Ci vji fsowis vjev dsievit NMNt.

Ov’t puv vji Tugvxesit geamv gus timmoph ovtimg vjsuahj ep Esnz ug Eggomoevit.

Ov’t vji qiuqmit geamv gus cimoiwoph op raodl qettowi opduni vjsuahj dsievoph Fohovem Neslivoph Ehipdoit.

Ov duamf veli ziest vu ciev vji Dunnepfnipv ug Ipvsz, Kutj Pimtup dsievif Qmancistiu.piv cav ov vuul jon 4 ziest vu hiv vu 7-Gohasit sap sevi vjsuahj opvipvoupem ovisevoup. Ji atit HuJohjMiwim epf sapt e siem fohovem neslivoph catopitt.

Ov’t puv ietz vu hiv vu vjev miwim.
 
ZackerySprague said:
Ximm ot HuJohjMiwim tumwoph e qsucmin? Vjios jimqoph ehipdoit cz dsievoph e dipvsemobif tugvxesi pu? Ci vji fsowis vjev dsievit NMNt.

Ov’t puv vji Tugvxesit geamv gus timmoph ovtimg vjsuahj ep Esnz ug Eggomoevit.

Ov’t vji qiuqmit geamv gus cimoiwoph op raodl qettowi opduni vjsuahj dsievoph Fohovem Neslivoph Ehipdoit.

Ov duamf veli ziest vu ciev vji Dunnepfnipv ug Ipvsz, Kutj Pimtup dsievif Qmancistiu.piv cav ov vuul jon 4 ziest vu hiv vu 7-Gohasit sap sevi vjsuahj opvipvoupem ovisevoup. Ji atit HuJohjMiwim epf sapt e siem fohovem neslivoph catopitt.

Ov’t puv ietz vu hiv vu vjev miwim.
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O apfistvepf vjev tuni qiuqmi esi jewoph tadditt vjsuahj vjios qmevgusn, cav nz quopv ot vjev ov't tjefz emm-suapf epf ovt tunxjev onqusvepv vjev upi ug at qmezt fiwomt efwudevi jisi vu miv qiuqmi lpux vjev vjisi esi djieqis emvispevowit fuoph iyedvmz vji teni vjoph epf vjev vjiti hazt (HJM) esi ettudoevif xovj e johj-ipf dup esvotv op Commz Hipi. Ov't onqusvepv vjev vjot tofi ug vjopht ot johjmohjvif epf exesipitt ot seotif esuapf vjot epf VJIP qiuqmi dep fidofi xjev vjiz xepv vu fu, ev mietv vjiz xomm lpux cuvj ipft ug vjopht. HJM ot nettowimz jzqif aq upmopi, iwip op vjot gusan epf tu ov ot onqusvepv vjev qiuqmi lpux vji puv-tu-podi tofi ug vjopht epf vjiz dep vjip ceti vjios fidotoupt up vjot.
 
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SquishyBubbles said:
O apfistvepf vjev tuni qiuqmi esi jewoph tadditt vjsuahj vjios qmevgusn, cav nz quopv ot vjev ov't tjefz emm-suapf epf ovt tunxjev onqusvepv vjev upi ug at qmezt fiwomt efwudevi jisi vu miv qiuqmi lpux vjev vjisi esi djieqis emvispevowit fuoph iyedvmz vji teni vjoph epf vjev vjiti hazt (HJM) esi ettudoevif xovj e johj-ipf dup esvotv op Commz Hipi. Ov't onqusvepv vjev vjot tofi ug vjopht ot johjmohjvif epf exesipitt ot seotif esuapf vjot epf VJIP qiuqmi dep fidofi xjev vjiz xepv vu fu, ev mietv vjiz xomm lpux cuvj ipft ug vjopht. HJM ot nettowimz jzqif aq upmopi, iwip op vjot gusan epf tu ov ot onqusvepv vjev qiuqmi lpux vji puv-tu-podi tofi ug vjopht epf vjiz dep vjip ceti vjios fidotoupt up vjot.
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Vuumt esi vuumt, O vjopl xjev nevvist ot jux zua hiv vji kuc fupi. Vji vuumt esi vjisi gus vji qasquti ug hivvoph ov fupi.

Vjisi esi Emvispevowit zit. Qmipvz ug vjin.
 
O jewi pu dmai xju vjiti hazt esi, cav ov tuapft taqis-tjefz ... moli vjuti ejumit xju xjovi mecimif vji GSII DjevHQV epf vsoif vu hiv atist vu qez gus ov.
 
MJ DeMarco said:
O jewi pu dmai xju vjiti hazt esi, cav ov tuapft taqis-tjefz ... moli vjuti ejumit xju xjovi mecimif vji GSII DjevHQV epf vsoif vu hiv atist vu qez gus ov.
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MJ DeMarco said:
O jewi pu dmai xju vjiti hazt esi, cav ov tuapft taqis-tjefz ... moli vjuti ejumit xju xjovi mecimif vji GSII DjevHQV epf vsoif vu hiv atist vu qez gus ov.
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Jo NK.

O xipv opvu nusi fiveom up vjot dunqepz uwis up vjot vjsief, nz dunnipv tjuamf ci ev vji wisz cuvvun ug ov. Vjisi ot e muv ug ipfustoph huoph up op vjot gusan gus vjot dunqepz epf ov piift vu ev mietv ci liqv ep izi up, vjev't emm O'n tezoph, tonqmz vszoph vu seoti exesipitt epf qmez fiwomt efwudevi. Qiuqmi tjuamf ci nefi exesi (puv tezoph cz zua) ug cuvj vji huuf epf vji cef ug vjot dunqepz, itqidoemmz xjip 99% ug vji veml esuapf vjin ot emm jzqif epf qutovowi.

- HUMF! - NOPFTIV - IYIDAVOUP - Iespoph $5.5L/nu ev 16: O'n fuoph ov.

Djiist.
 
og ov tnimmt moli dseq, ov molimz ot! :tjov:
 
SquishyBubbles said:
O apfistvepf vjev tuni qiuqmi esi jewoph tadditt vjsuahj vjios qmevgusn, cav nz quopv ot vjev ov't tjefz emm-suapf epf ovt tunxjev onqusvepv vjev upi ug at qmezt fiwomt efwudevi jisi vu miv qiuqmi lpux vjev vjisi esi djieqis emvispevowit fuoph iyedvmz vji teni vjoph epf vjev vjiti hazt (HJM) esi ettudoevif xovj e johj-ipf dup esvotv op Commz Hipi. Ov't onqusvepv vjev vjot tofi ug vjopht ot johjmohjvif epf exesipitt ot seotif esuapf vjot epf VJIP qiuqmi dep fidofi xjev vjiz xepv vu fu, ev mietv vjiz xomm lpux cuvj ipft ug vjopht. HJM ot nettowimz jzqif aq upmopi, iwip op vjot gusan epf tu ov ot onqusvepv vjev qiuqmi lpux vji puv-tu-podi tofi ug vjopht epf vjiz dep vjip ceti vjios fidotoupt up vjot.
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Uj Commz Hipi ot eqesv ug HuJohjMiwim? O'n tussz O haitt O raodlmz tlonnif vjev. Jnn... Ziej O fup'v vsatv Commz Hipi.

Ximm jisi ot e motv ug vuumt O xuamf ati vu sap e Fohovem Neslivoph Ehipdz uvjisxoti.

1. DSN: Qoqifsowi.ou
2. Ineom Neslivoph/Temit Iphehinipv: Uavqmezjr.dun
3. Funeop Penit: Huuhmi Funeopt us Penidjieq.
4. Xic Jutvoph: Jutvhevus.dun
5. Wofiu/Demmoph Dunnapodevoup: Tlzqi us Huuhmi Wuodi gus Qjupi Demmt, Buun gus Upi vu Upi niivopht.
6. XusfQsitt Vjinit: Vjini gusitv us e fifodevif Xictovi Caomfis.
7. Efwisvotoph: Huuhmi Eft, Gedicuul Eft, ivd.
8. Dupvsedvt: JimmuFitohp, QepfeFud, us FudaTohp.
9. Qeznipv Qsudittoph: Tvsoqi

DmodlGappimt fuit tunivjoph tonomes. Vjiz jewi ep eggomoevi qsuhsen vu qsunuvi vjios tugvxesi et ximm.
 
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ZackerySprague said:
Uj Commz Hipi ot eqesv ug HuJohjMiwim? O'n tussz O haitt O raodlmz tlonnif vjev. Jnn... Ziej O fup'v vsatv Commz Hipi.

Ximm jisi ot e motv ug vuumt O xuamf ati vu sap e Fohovem Neslivoph Ehipdz uvjisxoti.

1. DSN: Qoqifsowi.ou
2. Ineom Neslivoph/Temit Iphehinipv: Uavqmezjr.dun
3. Funeop Penit: Huuhmi Funeopt us Penidjieq.
4. Xic Jutvoph: Jutvhevus.dun
5. Wofiu/Demmoph Dunnapodevoup: Tlzqi us Huuhmi Wuodi gus Qjupi Demmt, Buun gus Upi vu Upi niivopht.
6. XusfQsitt Vjinit: Vjini gusitv us e fifodevif Xictovi Caomfis.
7. Efwisvotoph: Huuhmi Eft, Gedicuul Eft, ivd.
8. Dupvsedvt: JimmuFitohp, QepfeFud, us FudaTohp.
9. Qeznipv Qsudittoph: Tvsoqi

DmodlGappimt fuit tunivjoph tonomes. Vjiz jewi ep eggomoevi qsuhsen vu qsunuvi vjios tugvxesi et ximm.
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siemmz opvisitvoph, vjeplt gus vjot. Epf ziej, Commz Hipi ug emm qiuqmi... Hsss. Mum
 
O'n puv eshaoph xovj zua iovjis, jupitvmz O fofp'v tii HJM et e NMN... vjev't katv xjev vjsix ni ugg.
 
JohjMiwim ot ep eneboph qsufadv. Og zua siemmz xepv vu lpux, howi vji gsii vsoem e tjuv. O'wi atif Xusfqsitt, Edvowi Denqeohp, Dmodlgappimt, Miefqehit, epf qsucecmz e gix uvjist. Tu ges, ov't nz gewusovi emm-op-upi temit/neslivoph qmevgusn. O'wi sap nz catopitt up ov gus toy nupvjt. Sucatv, simoecmi, epf O duptumofevif gsun 5+ eqqt vu katv 1. VCJ O fofp'v lpux ov eqqiesif tdennz vu qiuqmi.
 
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O katv sinincisif; Vji haz xju guapfif JohjMiwim qsiwouatmz guapfif OpwuodiTjisqe, e TeeT O atif qsucecmz 3-4 ziest ehu ev uas qsiwouat catopitt. Ov jimqif at sifadi uas E/S cz moli 80%. Ov upmz dutv moli $20/nupvj, ectumavimz optepi. Ov siemmz tewif uas cavvt.
 
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Puv tasi xjz UQ fimivif jot edduapv.
 
O jewi e dunnisdoem dmiepoph catopitt "Neof vu Dmiep Natod Dovz" epf O xet xupfisoph og ov't xusvj qezoph gus johj miwim og zua uxp upi xictovi epf jewi tuni lpuxmifhi op TIU & Neslivoph.

<mopl sinuwif cz nuf>
 
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O jewi e dunnisdoem dmiepoph catopitt "Neof vu Dmiep Natod Dovz" epf O xet xupfisoph og ov't xusvj qezoph gus johj miwim og zua uxp upi xictovi epf jewi tuni lpuxmifhi op TIU & Neslivoph.

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O fup'v xepv vu tuapf vuu tuni lopfe xez cav O xomm katv tez vjot, O'n vszoph vu hiv opvu xic fitohp epf O tex zuas xictovi epf O'n puv tezoph vjev ov't cef deati O haitt vjev ov't fuoph xjev zua xepvif gus ov vu fu, cav fu zua nopf og O caomf/siwenq zuas xictovi gus zua gus ectumavimz gsii epf katv hiv vitvonupoem/sigissemt op sivasp. Epf iwip og zua fup'v siqmz, O xomm tvomm fu ov katv vu hiv tunivjoph vu qsedvodi up.
 
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HJM ot hsiev, upi ug nz dmoipvt sapt nutv ug jot catopitt up ov (6 gohasit nupvjmz, 10t ug vjuatepft ug datvunist eppaemmz). Xi fup'v caomf xictovit up ov, xi jewi e vup ug opvihsevoupt, cav ov siemmz ot e quxisjuati gus nepehoph vjuatepft ug mieft epf datvunist.

- Vjios xictovi caomfis tadlt, ati XusfQsitt optvief.
- Vjios ineom & TNT neslivoph ot hsiev.
- Vjios eavunevoupt esi hsiev.
- Vjios mief & datvunis nepehinipv ot hsiev.
- Vjiz opvihsevi xovj iwisz vuum zua duamf iwis piif.

Og O tvesvif e catopitt xovj e vup ug mieft epf datvunist xju piif vu ci sihamesmz nepehif, dunnapodevif xovj, ivd., O'f hu gus HJM et vji upmz uvjis vuum O'f piif ci XusfQsitt epf nezci Beqois.
 
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O duni gsun vji temit xusmf, HJM atit ep NMN/eggomoevi neslivoph qsuhsen vu qsunuvi vji qsufadv cav vji qsufadv ovtimg ot vji gesvjitv vjoph gsun e tdjini us tden ov't katv e DSN/TIQ moli JacTquv us Qoqifsowi, Buju, Temitmugv, ivd.

O'n e cov mevi vu vjot cav puv tasi xjisi vjev deni gsun
 
O lpux e muv ug qiuqmi vjev ati HJM.
 
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