How do I find a Mentor?

[Russ H]

Every once in a while, we get a newb that posts: "How do I find a mentor?"

This thread is a GREAT answer to that q.

Sid, w/your permission, I'd like to rename this thread, and sticky it.

What do you think?

-Russ H.

 

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[Sid23]

Every once in a while, we get a newb that posts: "How do I find a mentor?"

This thread is a GREAT answer to that q.

Sid, w/your permission, I'd like to rename this thread, and sticky it.

What do you think?

-Russ H.

Cool by me.

 

[EastWind]

stay CONFIDENT

 

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[mottdog]

I totally dig Russ's post. All you have to do is ask? Now the quest to find the right mentor.

 

[Russ H]

First, you set the meeting.

Go in strength ( Confidence ) and power ( Value ).

You are meeting a leader.


LEADERS ..... are looking for people who will work ... WITH them ..... not FOR them.

Look at it this way:

A store owner hires several people to run the place. ie: stock clerks, cashiers, etc. He spends NO time with these Brown-Nosers, but he will spend time with his managers...because they work WITH him and share his vision for success.

Use the aforementioned advice and HE will think you are applying for a BAG BOY .. still in high school.


I say this, because all of the advice is: FROM THE BOTTOM UP....... You are meeting with a LEADER....He views everything: FROM THE TOP DOWN. It‘s a completely different perspective.


Being in his position he prolly ( stole that word from Russ ) has plenty of money.............BUT not TIME. He will be looking for someone who can give him .... TIME. This is where you come in.


EXAMPLE:

Several years ago....... I hosted a radio program. While I had been a guest many times.......BUT had not been the host. As I walked into the studio.....I noticed that the GM was standing outside the window......watching me. I mentioned it to the host that was on before me and this is what he said:

HE IS THERE TO SEE IF HE CAN INTIMATE YOU..........BECAUSE IF HE DOES..................THE CALLERS WILL RIP YOUR GUTS OUT AND LEAVE YOU BLEEDING-OUT ON THE FLOOR.

REMEMBER THIS: HE IS THERE BECAUSE HE, EITHER CANNOT OR WILL NOT DO THIS JOB.

WHEN YOU SIT IN THIS CHAIR... IT BELONGS TO YOU ... THE TABLE AND MIKE ARE YOURS ALONE AND IT’S UP TO YOU AS TO WHAT YOU DO WITH IT!

You scheduled the meeting....... the table is yours.................ACT LIKE IT!


Why do you think that Dick Cheaney was chosen for VP...........it wasn’t because he was a nice guy....like the previous advice tells you to be. He was chosen because he is a ‘CAN DO” guy with steel-studded boots on.... You could depend on him to get the job done.


Leaders don’t like to talk about themselves, but they will talk about their latest passion.....ie, his new project...Transit?

This may be your only chance......there may not be another meeting......YOU MUST SELL YOURSELF.............NOW!

FASTLANE PRINCIPlES

Decide what you want................. and .........WHY you want it..... TELL HIM YOUR WHY.

1. Write down the goal.....GIVE HIM AN UP-DATED RESUME.

2. Ask for what you want..... DON’T BE AFRAID!!!!!! ASK - ASK - ASK.

3. Play by the rules...... SHARE HIS VISION....... TRANSIT?????

4. Be gracious when achieved....... BE CONFIDENT.....WITHOUT ... BEING ARROGANT.

These 4 items can be applied to almost anything you may want.

Remember.............................it’s your table............ACT LIKE IT!!



DON’T SELL YOURSELF SHORT:

You don’t know that he is working for nothing..........Cities pay.....BIG BUCKS for feasibility studies. Even if he is ....it’s because there is a Big Payoff in the future... it doesn’t mean that you have to. If you value your time as ZERO... so will he.

Cat Man Du, the advice you gave above may be who YOU are.

And that was our advice to Sid: Be yourself.

You want a shock? When it came to meeting someone I looked up to, I was definitely a "nervous-nellie that wasn’t able to present himself". Same thing happened when I was working around George Lucas. Or Rick McCallum. Or Ray Dolby. Or Phil Lesh. Or Alex Trebek.

Or more than a dozen other folks whose names you'd recognize, and from whom I learned a lot about business, and life.

I wound up getting to know not just them, but their families. They trusted me-- and liked me enough to invite me for dinner, or (sometimes) to even stay with them at their homes.

I NEVER came across with the attitude you advocate.

And at every single one of those first meetings, I was too nervous to see straight.

But that's me. People are different.

Be yourself-- that's the person your mentor needs to see.

-Russ H.

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[Cat Man Du]

I think all these approaches would work entirely dependent on the mentor's personality. The aggressive, confident, assertive, and cocky approach wouldn't work on me ... I'd be like "get lost" if you're so self-assured, why do you need me? The softer, humble "kiss your a$$" approach would be effective for me.

There is a big diference.......................BETWEEN ..........Cocky and .........CONFIDENT.

Nowhere ........... did I say to be cocky. If fact............I said just the opposite.

4. Be gracious when achieved....... BE CONFIDENT.....WITHOUT ... BEING ARROGANT.

Remenber.................Sid also had sent a resume earlier....He is looking for a JOB as well.

Someone who brings ...VALUE ...does get the Mentor.

No one should let themselves be intimidated......BY ANYONE!!! FOR ANY REASON.

THIS IS THE WORLD..WE LIVE IN TODAY!:coffee:

 

[Luke12321]

Just be yourself. Ask the questions you want to ask. After working with a mentor myself...I can you that it can be a very rewarding experience. Just talk business and let the convo go wherever it may lead to. Lastly, thank him for the chance to meet up...be grateful. He doesn't have to do it, but he is.

 

[Cat Man Du]

OK Guys. ......................... Thank you for your input.

We should change this Thread to “ The Battle for Your Mind” for this is what it’s all about.

Even though these issues DO apply to Getting a Job***** Getting a Mentor **** and other situations.

MJ said:

Absolutely, but what about someone like me where MY VALUE RECEIVED is simply helping out a youngster? The guy that approaches me timid and "butt licking" would appeal to me as someone who genuinely needs help and stepped out of his comfort zone to get it.

Yes, MJ ....You would help a youngster, but what if the timid one was a 50 year old unmotivated clerk. What Then????????????

Value is, also, someone who is TEACHABLE.... We all will GIVE our time to one of these.

We will make exceptions for the younger ones ie; Lambo---Ryan If I had their smarts at their age I would have been President by now.

JSCOTT said:

Based on this, I'm going to guess that you have never successfully managed a large organization...

I have, and I can promise you that if I took this approach, neither my employees nor my bosses would have respected me...and I would have had a very limited understanding of what was going on in my organization.


J. I have worked in the corporate world too: I managed a brokerage office: 100 salesman + paid staff and was in management for the “GYM” company before I was 21.

BUT..... I, also worked as a BAGBOY in the 8 th grade. NONE of the managers spent TIME with me or any other B.B.’s either. SO LETS GET REAL.

BOBO:

You and the others are confusing ....CONFIDENCE with Cockiness .You all seem to think that you either have to be: COCKY or MEALY-MOUTHED. Of course, this is not the case.

RUSS said:

I was working around George Lucas. Or Rick_McCallum". Or Ray_Dolby". Or Phil_Lesh". Or Alex_Trebek".

Am I supposed to be impressed?

Russ, you may remember that I am a LA guy too.

In high school... I was a power-lifter. Yes, GYMJ, I was part of this scene both before and after my ARMY hitch.

In my senior year of highschool............I applied to the largest Gym company in the world. We had a 6 week training class before we could actually go to work.

FASTLANE: I was the youngest person there............. I use to watch all the Brown-Noses try to work on our trainer/teacher. He would look over at me and smile. WHY, because I saw right away that the equipment was NOT put away and other things not done: I made sure all was in order before I left....NOBODY asked me to... I just did it......I showed VALUE. Long story short...I was hired to be part of the teaching staff. The company had many HOLLYWOOD people come thru, some were well-known co-stars....starlets. I saw them everyday.............I was transferred to the Beverly Hills studio where I was their trainer for a while and met more of them there. I became one of their top salesman.. in the top 5............while going to highschool and working part-time.


I really want to thank you all........MODS and MJ for joining this discussion.

First................. ATW..........Russ and others I have the utmost respect for.

RUSS with his re-habs and SBL‘s............ Fast - Lane.

ATW with her Partnership deal she just outlined briefly above.... Fast-Lane

JSCOTT... Left corporate .. switched careers and : Work for self = Fast-Lane

MJ ................. well the LAMBO says it all.

You guys are my Hero’s ...and I really mean that.



OK...................... I’M NOT GOING TO DEFEND MYSELF ANY MORE:

YOU are all achievers ----------- BUT YOU HAVE MISSED IT!

With this said ....................WE HAVE A DISAGREEMENT.

 

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[Russ H]

The nice thing about being yourself is that you attract people with a similar attitude to yourself and repel the people with a different attitude - which is a good thing.

Yes, this is the heart of it.

Cat Man Du will no doubt attract more people like himself w/his approach.

And I will wind up attracting more people like me, by being myself.

And that goes for you too, Sid!

-Russ H.

 

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[Cat Man Du]

Yes, this is the heart of it.

Cat Man Du will no doubt attract more people like himself w/his approach.

And I will wind up attracting more people like me, by being myself.

And that goes for you too, Sid!

-Russ H.

The problem with this is: most leaders are NOT like you! So play their game!:smx6:

 

[PaulRobert]

I will tell you one thing I have noticed about many successful business men and women that I have met. And trust me they are worth 8-9 figures and they are all leaders. They keep their egos in check and will always find time to set aside and listen to you. Those types of leaders are ones that you find on this forum. These are great leaders who are great role models.

Sid- I hope you had a great meeting and tell us how it went!

 

[Gymjunkie]

The problem with this is: most leaders are NOT like you! So play their game!:smx6:

Hmm...leaders don't play others' game...just their own..

Both approaches work. With different people. There is no one way in this life (except some patterns, but def. not one way to do things)..

 

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[DeletedUser394]

How you think..............will govern how you go thru life,,,,,,,,,,,It's the most important issue of this forum!!!:fastlane:

No, I would counter that taking action is the most important issue of this forum (and thus will govern how you LIVE your life). It has taken me a LONG time to realize this, but thanks to constructive posts on this forum my journey has finally begun.

I could think about things, and plan for the rest of my life, but as many have said: "You miss every swing that you don't take"

 

[iownie]

Wow! That was one long thread I just read! And here is my conclusion;
hmmmmm....
ok maybe not....
I think I better just stick with "If you can't say something nice, don't say it at all"
Best of luck to you RyanDrake!

 

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[Gymjunkie]

This is gold!!!!

Confidence vs. Arrogance

October 22, 2009

Confident people are very attractive. They have an air of self assurance about them. Arrogant people, on the other hand, can be a turn off. They’re not sure, they’re cocky. They use their arrogance to hide insecurity. Confidence can land you a gig, arrogance can cause you to lose out.
Here are a few more differences between people who are confident vs. people who are arrogant:
Confidence is knowing you’re up to the task. Confident people don’t have to wonder if they’re qualified to pitch for a job. They’re always sure about the job they can do and convey this to the potential client in an equally assured manner. They know why they’re a perfect fit for a gig and tell the client in a calm, clear manner. Their resumes show a long list of happy clients.
Arrogance is saying you’re up to the task. Arrogant people are abundant in bravado but lacking in substance. In a job interview an arrogant person won’t talk about why he’s best suited for the task. Instead, they talk about why the other people are wrong for the task. Arrogant people don’t know how to talk about themselves without insulting others.
Confident people share details. They answer questions without a lot of “me,” “me,” “me.”
Arrogant people: Brag.
Confident writers hope potential clients recognize their ability.
Arrogant writers criticize anyone who doesn’t appreciate their greatness.
Confident people aren’t worried about competition and don’t mind sharing the tools and stories leading to their success.
Arrogant people use their skills to talk down to others.
Confident bloggers teach.
Arrogant bloggers condescend.
Confident people keep an eye on their fellow writers and bloggers but don’t consider themselves competition.
Arrogant people bad mouth others to prop themselves up.
Confidence: You walk.
Arrogance: You strut.
Confidence: People take notice.
Arrogance: People roll their eyes.
Confident writers offer respectful disagreement when their thoughts don’t jibe with that of another writer.
Arrogant writers point fingers and call names but never make a point.
Confident writers have the faith and the ability to meet their their clients’ needs.
Arrogant writers: It’s their way or the highway.
What are some of the difference you see between confidence and arrogance?

LOLOLOLOLOL it's a carbon copy of what's happening in this thread. 'Nuff said :smash::smilielol::smash:

I printed this and am about to post it on my bedroom wall

PS: If anyone is interessted, there is an unmolested thread with the same topic http://www.thefastlanetomillions.com/your-goals-your-fastlane-plan/8884-how-find-mentor.html

Speed+ Awesome list... I might be strutting and sometimes being '' my way or the highway"...

 

[Cat Man Du]

No, I would counter that taking action is the most important issue of this forum (and thus will govern how you LIVE your life). It has taken me a LONG time to realize this, but thanks to constructive posts on this forum my journey has finally begun.

I could think about things, and plan for the rest of my life, but as many have said: "You miss every swing that you don't take"

How you think...........................WILL govern your ACTION and tell you WHAT action to take!

 

[SaraK]

I was thinking about this thread tonight, specifically the question of whether to treat a mentor/celebrity/idol like any regular person, or like someone you admire and respect. In other words, do you treat them like someone who's better than you (and risk coming across as a brown-noser) vs. treating them like someone who's equal to you (and risk looking arrogant). I think the answer lies in realizing the difference between respecting a person as another human being and respecting their unique skills/knowledge/gifts.

Every person, even famous/powerful ones, share those traits all of us humans have - similar feelings, wanting to be genuinely respected, and enjoying talking about things that interest them. So in that way they're your equal, and you'd treat them as such. On the other hand, a mentor/idol has skills/knowledge/experience/connections that deserve a lot of respect, and you should acknowledge that too.

I think if one keeps these in mind that you can show the right mixture of respect for their accomplishments while still treating them like a normal human being, friendly and genuine.

So if you're feeling nervous about meeting someone you admire, just go into it with the attitude that you're about to connect with someone you're destined to become good friends with. If they're the sort of person that you can become good friends with, then that's what will happen.

 

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[EastWind]

is there a mentor web directory?

 

[Bobo]

Sid,

It's pretty clear that you are a sincere, bright and ambitious guy. If we see that, so will he.

You are also sincere as hell and that works - people like sincerity and respect sincerity. Most accomplished people are flattered when asked to mentor and teach others, those who aren't don't make very good mentors.

People also invest their time and energy into those in whom they see some reflection of themselves at an earlier time. When they see someone who is dying to learn more and bust their tail it is very hard to say no to that, if they are also pleasant and easy to like, so much the better.

You are a sincere, likable, pleasant, ambitious and respectful guy. Here's betting that will serve you well. If this guy isn't the right one, you'll find another. Go get'm.

 

[Russ H]

There is a technique called "mirroring" That works well when selling yourself.

Most people are pretty reasonable and self assured. They are neither cocky, arrogant, or even confident. They are Human and have all the frailties of any one else. I like the addage of they "they put their pants on one leg at a time" Or I like to think of it as "everybody poops!"

I work in sales and a technique I use is called mirroring. If the person is just a regular guy then you can be a regular guy your self. Show what you can bring to the table and ask questions. Do not be afraid to say "I don't know".

Occasionally you run into these Alpha type personalities that need to be right all the time. These kind of people look at mistakes or ignorance as a weakness. Not for what it is. They have a need to push people down to make themselves feel better about themselves and blame others for their own incompetence. This can also be a successful trait, especially in the corporate world where the blame game is rampant. In this case You DO have to be a bit arrogant and Put down people too. I have been the grocery business for 20 years and seen it all. Quite frankly it is one big butt kissing chain that has more to do with kissing your bosses a$$ than the customers'.

Fortunately the majority of entrepeneurs know that this doesn't work as well as just giving value.

You'll learn when you can be a stand up guy and when you have to be a jerk. But My guess is that eventually you will not want to work with a jerk no matter what the payoff may be.

Great points, eagle.

I was in sales for years, and I wound up "mirroring" a lot-- but never realized it (it was unconscious). It was a very helpful technique, and allowed me to establish rapport very quickly.

But it didn't always work w/the blustery alpha dogs (b/c there can only be *one* alpha dog, eh?).

Interesting story:

I'm looking out the window at the store I work at. Guy and a girl pull up in a VW Rabbit. Girl gets out of the driver's side.

They both walk in. This is the early 80s, and the guys is totally dressed. Gf is very attractive. So I'm guessing he's into appearance.

He asks if we carry the flashiest receiver around (it's an Akai AR-22). I say yes, but we've had some real reliability problems with them.

He looks at me like I'm dirt. Like I'm the biggest scumbag on the planet.

So I try to gain some credibility: "Seriously, since it was just rated #1 by Consumer Reports, we've sold a ton of them (I know that's why he's asked for one, even though he didn't mention it. Shows I keep up w/things).

I offer to take him into our service department and show him the stack of broken AR-22s we've been getting back.

But he has to be the alpha: "That's just because you've sold thousands of them. That just tells me they're 100x more popular than any of the other crap you sell here." Still looks at me like I'm dirt.

His girlfriend smirks.

I'm insulted.

Here I am, trying to help the guy (and avoid another return), and he's treating me like crap.

So I crank it up another notch. I take him over to the unit (we had one on top of a stack of new boxes of them). "Here, take a look at it. Pick it up" (I pick it up, and have him hold it). "See how it weighs nothing? Now pick this Vector Research up" (A different receiver, on a stack next to the Akai, same price. I hand the Vector to him-- it easily weighs 4x as much) "It weighs more because it has a better power supply, separate circuit boards, and higher quality switching."

Then I go over to the wall of sound (where everything is hooked up) and play them both. The Akai has all kinds of static on FM. The Vector sounds fabulous.

He's still not convinced: "You probably have the antenna hooked up wrong."

I pull out the receivers and show him both. They're both hooked up the same.

He kind of goes off to the side, to talk to the gf. Walks around the store a bit.

Then comes back: "Look are you gonna sell me the Akai, or do I need to take my business elsewhere?"

I look at him and his polyester clothes. So I hit him hard (this is in Royal Oak, MI, a suburb of Detroit, where everybody-- EVERYBODY-- lives and breathes cars). So I say (last ditch effort to win him over by appealing to his sense of style):

"Look, this Akai is all flash an no substance. It's like a Pontiac."

Now he looks pissed.

I realize he probably owns a Pontiac. Sh*t. Gotta pull out of this one "And not just any Pontiac. A Trans Am with the screaming chicken on the hood. And not only that-- the one that has the cheesy plastic dash designed to look like machined aluminum."

Nobody owns those, except total posers. I smile.

He smiles, asks me some more questions, tells me he's going to think about it, and heads for the door. I feel like I've at least won the battle, and maybe he'll come back.

Until his gf turns around and whispers (with a gleam in her eye): "He owns a Trans Am".

:smx4:

Great example of being prepared, mirroring the alpha attitude, and "winning the argument", but losing what was the ultimate goal (selling the guy something, so I could put a roof over my head).

I learned a lot from that encounter. And after that, I rarely tried to keep up with an alpha when I was trying to sell them something.

But that's just me.

Your mileage may vary. :seeya:

-Russ H.

 

[Gymjunkie]

Come on...you lost and idiot of a client... You were too helpful even.. I wouldn't pay attention to such guys. Clients ain't always right...

Great points, eagle.

I was in sales for years, and I wound up "mirroring" a lot-- but never realized it (it was unconscious). It was a very helpful technique, and allowed me to establish rapport very quickly.

But it didn't always work w/the blustery alpha dogs (b/c there can only be *one* alpha dog, eh?).

Interesting story:

I'm looking out the window at the store I work at. Guy and a girl pull up in a VW Rabbit. Girl gets out of the driver's side.

They both walk in. This is the early 80s, and the guys is totally dressed. Gf is very attractive. So I'm guessing he's into appearance.

He asks if we carry the flashiest receiver around (it's an Akai AR-22). I say yes, but we've had some real reliability problems with them.

He looks at me like I'm dirt. Like I'm the biggest scumbag on the planet.

So I try to gain some credibility: "Seriously, since it was just rated #1 by Consumer Reports, we've sold a ton of them (I know that's why he's asked for one, even though he didn't mention it. Shows I keep up w/things).

I offer to take him into our service department and show him the stack of broken AR-22s we've been getting back.

But he has to be the alpha: "That's just because you've sold thousands of them. That just tells me they're 100x more popular than any of the other crap you sell here." Still looks at me like I'm dirt.

His girlfriend smirks.

I'm insulted.

Here I am, trying to help the guy (and avoid another return), and he's treating me like crap.

So I crank it up another notch. I take him over to the unit (we had one on top of a stack of new boxes of them). "Here, take a look at it. Pick it up" (I pick it up, and have him hold it). "See how it weighs nothing? Now pick this Vector Research up" (A different receiver, on a stack next to the Akai, same price. I hand the Vector to him-- it easily weighs 4x as much) "It weighs more because it has a better power supply, separate circuit boards, and higher quality switching."

Then I go over to the wall of sound (where everything is hooked up) and play them both. The Akai has all kinds of static on FM. The Vector sounds fabulous.

He's still not convinced: "You probably have the antenna hooked up wrong."

I pull out the receivers and show him both. They're both hooked up the same.

He kind of goes off to the side, to talk to the gf. Walks around the store a bit.

Then comes back: "Look are you gonna sell me the Akai, or do I need to take my business elsewhere?"

I look at him and his polyester clothes. So I hit him hard (this is in Royal Oak, MI, a suburb of Detroit, where everybody-- EVERYBODY-- lives and breathes cars). So I say (last ditch effort to win him over by appealing to his sense of style):

"Look, this Akai is all flash an no substance. It's like a Pontiac."

Now he looks pissed.

I realize he probably owns a Pontiac. Sh*t. Gotta pull out of this one "And not just any Pontiac. A Trans Am with the screaming chicken on the hood. And not only that-- the one that has the cheesy plastic dash designed to look like machined aluminum."

Nobody owns those, except total posers. I smile.

He smiles, asks me some more questions, tells me he's going to think about it, and heads for the door. I feel like I've at least won the battle, and maybe he'll come back.

Until his gf turns around and whispers (with a gleam in her eye): "He owns a Trans Am".

:smx4:

Great example of being prepared, mirroring the alpha attitude, and "winning the argument", but losing what was the ultimate goal (selling the guy something, so I could put a roof over my head).

I learned a lot from that encounter. And after that, I rarely tried to keep up with an alpha when I was trying to sell them something.

But that's just me.

Your mileage may vary. :seeya:

-Russ H.

 

[Russ H]

Come on...you lost and idiot of a client... You were too helpful even..

In sales, my goal was to sell anything to anybody. And have them feel like they were the only person who should have what I was selling them-- that it was THEIR widget.

I really didn't care if they liked me or not. I just wanted them to walk out with what I'd sold them, and feel like it was the most PERFECT thing for them.

That way, I got referrals from them, and more business.

But this has gone off topic of mentoring-- I only wanted to comment on mirroring, and how it can work well in sales, but not always.

While I still unconsciously mirror, even when meeting a mentor, I'd still suggest being yourself as much as possible when meeting a potential mentor.

Sorry for the derailment. fftopic:

-Russ H.

 

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[SaraK]

Good story Russ

An especially good point you made is that there can only be 1 alpha dog. So if the person you want to be your mentor is the alpha type, then to have a relationship with him you have to accept playing the part of a subordinate as opposed to a relationship of equals. That's an individual choice; some are ok with it, some are not.

 

[PaulRobert]

Hey Sid!

I am very happy for you that your lunch went outstanding. Looks like today has been a big day for you. Even by just reading your post I can sense you had a great time and you learned many valuable lessons. I am thrilled that you were able to have a good time. But I have one question for you! What is one thing that you would recommend when meeting a future mentor or potential business partner?

 

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[Bobo]

So what was the outcome?

 

[Sid23]

So what was the outcome?

Bobo, scroll up a few posts...details there.

 

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[Russ H]

Sid-

I know how I felt on those days when I'd meet someone important to my future.

Enjoy the feeling-- it's great!

And good on you for having a great meeting!

-Russ H.

 

[pinker]

Hi Sid23,

I don't know if you are interested, but in Canada where the real estate market is still very strong (and none of the banks went under), there's a commercial real estate mentoring program. There's a book and a course at the University of Toronto. The site is realestatementor dot ca. The authors of the book teach the course at U of T. Follow the site, more information is on there and how to contact the authors.

Cheers

 

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[Guest3722A]

I don't know if any of you guys have heard of this site, but I saw the link in another forum, and thought it was very relevant to this discussion.

SCORE | Small business mentoring and training | SCORE

I've never actually used the site, but they claim to be offering free mentoring from successful businessmen. I'm currently reading some of the mentor bios on this site, and when I start looking for a mentor (soon), I'll def go here.

Score is excellent! Good call. Score reps are basically retired executives and entrepreneurs who want to give back. I've met with a few of these guys in the past and they're very good and friendly people (at least from my experience).

As a matter of fact, due to YOU mentioning this, I'm going to make an appointment to discuss my current path.

REP!!!!!+++

 

[x9vjzs098u123rnl]

Score is excellent! Good call. Score reps are basically retired executives and entrepreneurs who want to give back. I've met with a few of these guys in the past and they're very good and friendly people (at least from my experience).

As a matter of fact, due to YOU mentioning this, I'm going to make an appointment to discuss my current path.

REP!!!!!+++

and because YOU are taking action with it, I'm pretty interested in taking a closer look for myself, and maybe taking advantage of this great resource

One other thing I can add to the discussion is twitter. A few days ago there was this quote being retweeted a lot :

"Facebook is for friends who are now strangers. Twitter is for strangers who should be friends".

I have found this to be true time and time again. Via twitter, I've been able to talk to the greats of my industry, some of the best marketers or SEOs or social media specialists, etc. around. Just sending them a simple @ message or direct message is such an easy way to get in touch with them.

I gave Mark Joyner a piece of advice on his mailing list (he was sending out one email way too often, i was getting annoyed), and in addition to acknowledging that, stopping the emails, and sending me a message, he gave me the course he was advertising for free

So use twitter. Follow your idols. Join discussions. .....and feel free to look me up while you're at it Ryan Lucht (ryanlucht) on Twitter

 

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