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Free registration at the forum removes this block.Hello all. I'm not really sure how to classify this post. It's probably more a combination of a rant and realization. I joined this forum over 10 years ago with excitement to start something, posted some questions to get the ball roll rolling and then just stopped. Since then I have had multiple 9am-5pm jobs but was finally able to land a good job. I consider myself successful in my field, make good money for children's school, sports activities, auto leases and the once a year vacation. No matter what though, I still always randomly though about the "what if's". What if I would have opended something, what if I would have started drop-shipping early, what if I would have put money up for my wife to start her event company. Throughout all the "what if's", I still just kept moving forward like a solider with what I thought was success. It wasn't until about a month that things changed within. One of my kids said they wish they had a pool and that little statement which was so pure and innocent, pissed me off. Although it might be considered a spoiled statement, it made me question - "Why can't I have a pool". I currently rent and don't have a yard but this started to make me think, why don't I still have a house or at least a bigger place. These thoughts which should drive and push me are actually doing the opposite and suppressing me. I'm basically beating myself up for wasting precious time. When my first son was born I had dreams and plans, it is now 15 years later and I am in the same exact position. My family and I are healthy and again, I pay for so many extra activities, trips and items that my children would be considered privileged but is that it ? I still have to answer why I clocked in at 9:10am instead of 9:00am. I still have to hear my landlord telling me the kids are making too much noise and I still have to tell my wife - can food shopping wait until next week ? When all is said and done and I am 65 years old, I will finally be able to access my 401k and spend the money freely. I am furious just typing this.
Ok, rant over. Now the positive.
FINALLY, I made a move and started a small cleaning business. This is the field I am in for my daily job and consider myself experienced. It's in the commercial field which is more profitable then residential and I am able to use some of the labor and suppliers I know. I have a logo, business cards, domain email, and have been running Instagram ads. I have had some contacts with Instagram but they never came through. Any work I have had is from neighborhood locals. I am making profit but it's nothing to quit my job over but still, it's profit. This little bit of success has my mind going. The last couple of days I have been all over the place. The two things I keep coming back to are drop-shipping and private label. My wife and I always use to joke about selling these specific items. There is a market for them but unfortunately there are multiple companies, BUT marketing is key. If we can market it correctly then who knows what can happen, right ? As far as drop shipping, I know that is hit or miss. You either do good or you don't. Same with private label, except that may be worse because if you don't do go then you are stuck with the product.
What I do know is I want to do more alongside of my 9-5 and also my cleaning service. I want to have multiple things going on. It would be great if I could quite my job but not to sound negative, I don't believe that will ever be an option. The health benefits I receive override everything, especially for my wife. At this point in my life, I would be happy making $1,000 monthly profit off of one of these avenues. I know this may not be the right mindset but after years of living paycheck to paycheck, having $1,000 extra to pay bills or re-invest into something bigger would be a huge accomplishment for me.
Now the negative.
I don't have extra money to play with so I'm not sure which avenue to go. I don't have access to loans or credit cards so the little I have to invest is extremely important to me and want to make sure I spend wisely. Even though drop-shipping is saturated, can I at least get lucky with a positive couple of months ? I am not asking for anyone to hand it to me on a platter but I'm hoping someone can at least help me go in a positive direction. At one point, I was going to use chatGPT to help me right an e-book just to get something out there but I think that was the desperate part of me. I'm all over the place which is exciting.
Besides my wife who is supportive, I don't have anyone around me that I can talk with. My small circle of friends are robots and live their life textbook, step by step and will never think outside the box. If I brought this up to them, they will try to talk me out of it.
I'm hoping this turns into a positive post. Let me know your thoughts.
No matter what though, I still always randomly though about the "what if's". What if I would have opended something, what if I would have started drop-shipping early, what if
I'm basically beating myself up for wasting precious time.
Surely this is the direction to focus on and ditch the drop-shipping, ebook and private label ideas.I made a move and started a small cleaning business. This is the field I am in for my daily job and consider myself experienced. It's in the commercial field which is more profitable then residential and I am able to use some of the labor and suppliers I know.
Hey man,Hello all. I'm not really sure how to classify this post. It's probably more a combination of a rant and realization. I joined this forum over 10 years ago with excitement to start something, posted some questions to get the ball roll rolling and then just stopped. Since then I have had multiple 9am-5pm jobs but was finally able to land a good job. I consider myself successful in my field, make good money for children's school, sports activities, auto leases and the once a year vacation. No matter what though, I still always randomly though about the "what if's". What if I would have opended something, what if I would have started drop-shipping early, what if I would have put money up for my wife to start her event company. Throughout all the "what if's", I still just kept moving forward like a solider with what I thought was success. It wasn't until about a month that things changed within. One of my kids said they wish they had a pool and that little statement which was so pure and innocent, pissed me off. Although it might be considered a spoiled statement, it made me question - "Why can't I have a pool". I currently rent and don't have a yard but this started to make me think, why don't I still have a house or at least a bigger place. These thoughts which should drive and push me are actually doing the opposite and suppressing me. I'm basically beating myself up for wasting precious time. When my first son was born I had dreams and plans, it is now 15 years later and I am in the same exact position. My family and I are healthy and again, I pay for so many extra activities, trips and items that my children would be considered privileged but is that it ? I still have to answer why I clocked in at 9:10am instead of 9:00am. I still have to hear my landlord telling me the kids are making too much noise and I still have to tell my wife - can food shopping wait until next week ? When all is said and done and I am 65 years old, I will finally be able to access my 401k and spend the money freely. I am furious just typing this.
Ok, rant over. Now the positive.
FINALLY, I made a move and started a small cleaning business. This is the field I am in for my daily job and consider myself experienced. It's in the commercial field which is more profitable then residential and I am able to use some of the labor and suppliers I know. I have a logo, business cards, domain email, and have been running Instagram ads. I have had some contacts with Instagram but they never came through. Any work I have had is from neighborhood locals. I am making profit but it's nothing to quit my job over but still, it's profit. This little bit of success has my mind going. The last couple of days I have been all over the place. The two things I keep coming back to are drop-shipping and private label. My wife and I always use to joke about selling these specific items. There is a market for them but unfortunately there are multiple companies, BUT marketing is key. If we can market it correctly then who knows what can happen, right ? As far as drop shipping, I know that is hit or miss. You either do good or you don't. Same with private label, except that may be worse because if you don't do go then you are stuck with the product.
What I do know is I want to do more alongside of my 9-5 and also my cleaning service. I want to have multiple things going on. It would be great if I could quite my job but not to sound negative, I don't believe that will ever be an option. The health benefits I receive override everything, especially for my wife. At this point in my life, I would be happy making $1,000 monthly profit off of one of these avenues. I know this may not be the right mindset but after years of living paycheck to paycheck, having $1,000 extra to pay bills or re-invest into something bigger would be a huge accomplishment for me.
Now the negative.
I don't have extra money to play with so I'm not sure which avenue to go. I don't have access to loans or credit cards so the little I have to invest is extremely important to me and want to make sure I spend wisely. Even though drop-shipping is saturated, can I at least get lucky with a positive couple of months ? I am not asking for anyone to hand it to me on a platter but I'm hoping someone can at least help me go in a positive direction. At one point, I was going to use chatGPT to help me right an e-book just to get something out there but I think that was the desperate part of me. I'm all over the place which is exciting.
Besides my wife who is supportive, I don't have anyone around me that I can talk with. My small circle of friends are robots and live their life textbook, step by step and will never think outside the box. If I brought this up to them, they will try to talk me out of it.
I'm hoping this turns into a positive post. Let me know your thoughts.
hire out the hard stuff. build it as a business. the 'old man' can do the sales / scheduling.That is generally very good advice.
Not for someone 65+ though.
Can you suggest a online biznezz though?
That is generally very good advice.My buddy cleans moss off roofs.
Spends $20 a day in fb ads
He messages them and quotes them anywhere from like $300 up to $1000+
He goes and cleans their roof.
You need a ladder, a brush, a leaf blower, and some moss killer.
He works for a few hours, gets his $500 by like noon, and heads home.
Fun way to be the boss, make 5-10k a month, and takes basically nothing to start up.
Dude does simple roofs only, and you wouldn’t need a harness.
No need to complicate it.
$500 avg.
You need to clean 200 roofs to get 100k
It’s about $100 an hour.
You get 16 hours a day for 365 days.
So out of your 5,840 hours this year, you can trade 1000 of them away, and spend 4,840 remaining hours doing whatever you like, with 100 g’s in your pocket.
I don't have extra money to play with so I'm not sure which avenue to go. I don't have access to loans or credit cards so the little I have to invest is extremely important to me and want to make sure I spend wisely. Even though drop-shipping is saturated, can I at least get lucky with a positive couple of months ? I am not asking for anyone to hand it to me on a platter but I'm hoping someone can at least help me go in a positive direction. At one point, I was going to use chatGPT to help me right an e-book just to get something out there but I think that was the desperate part of me. I'm all over the place which is exciting.
Besides my wife who is supportive, I don't have anyone around me that I can talk with. My small circle of friends are robots and live their life textbook, step by step and will never think outside the box. If I brought this up to them, they will try to talk me out of it.
I'm hoping this turns into a positive post. Let me know your thoughts.
@Vas87 try creating the persona of who you need to be. Then use that to guide you.
Example, @Kung Fu Steve made us do this stupid a$$ poster (yes @Kung Fu Steve , i still think the poster is stupid. Even though I use it every single day) that we all hated tremendously. Stupidest exercise ever and we all resisted it completely. The first thing at the top of the poster was 'name them'.
Meaning, come up with who you want to be. Give them a name. Then state the three things that that person does. When I finally relented and did the full exercise, this was what was at the top of the poster that I now review daily......
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Now, each morning, I get up and look at that stupid poster and ask myself 'what would Leader Zane do today?'. Then I go crush the F*ck out of that. See, Leader Zane wouldn't eat a pile of donuts, because he is healthy. He would spend a few minutes on this forum to help create people, etc. etc. He would work on his business. He reads to gain knowledge.
To be Leader Zane, I just do what Leader Zane would do.
So, create 'Vas87 the Destroyer'. Would Vas87 the Destroyer sit around and scroll TikTok and sit around in negative land, or would Vas87 the Destroyer get his weak a$$ up and go Destroy stuff??!?!
Who do you want to be? What does that person do? Go do that.
@Johnny boy - you're the guy I wanted to hear from on this post.My buddy cleans moss off roofs.
Spends $20 a day in fb ads
He messages them and quotes them anywhere from like $300 up to $1000+
He goes and cleans their roof.
You need a ladder, a brush, a leaf blower, and some moss killer.
He works for a few hours, gets his $500 by like noon, and heads home.
Fun way to be the boss, make 5-10k a month, and takes basically nothing to start up.
Dude does simple roofs only, and you wouldn’t need a harness.
No need to complicate it.
$500 avg.
You need to clean 200 roofs to get 100k
It’s about $100 an hour.
You get 16 hours a day for 365 days.
So out of your 5,840 hours this year, you can trade 1000 of them away, and spend 4,840 remaining hours doing whatever you like, with 100 g’s in your pocket.
I'm gonna explore this path myself, I find myself to be a hands on guy so perhaps this is an avenue. Thanks.My buddy cleans moss off roofs.
Spends $20 a day in fb ads
He messages them and quotes them anywhere from like $300 up to $1000+
He goes and cleans their roof.
You need a ladder, a brush, a leaf blower, and some moss killer.
He works for a few hours, gets his $500 by like noon, and heads home.
Fun way to be the boss, make 5-10k a month, and takes basically nothing to start up.
Dude does simple roofs only, and you wouldn’t need a harness.
No need to complicate it.
$500 avg.
You need to clean 200 roofs to get 100k
It’s about $100 an hour.
You get 16 hours a day for 365 days.
So out of your 5,840 hours this year, you can trade 1000 of them away, and spend 4,840 remaining hours doing whatever you like, with 100 g’s in your pocket.
i think he is. doesn't matter. instead of immediately going to 'why can't i', try to help people answer 'how can i'Sorry, I am confused don't mind my post, I thought for some reason this guy was 65.
My buddy cleans moss off roofs.
Spends $20 a day in fb ads
He messages them and quotes them anywhere from like $300 up to $1000+
He goes and cleans their roof.
You need a ladder, a brush, a leaf blower, and some moss killer.
He works for a few hours, gets his $500 by like noon, and heads home.
Fun way to be the boss, make 5-10k a month, and takes basically nothing to start up.
Dude does simple roofs only, and you wouldn’t need a harness.
No need to complicate it.
$500 avg.
You need to clean 200 roofs to get 100k
It’s about $100 an hour.
You get 16 hours a day for 365 days.
So out of your 5,840 hours this year, you can trade 1000 of them away, and spend 4,840 remaining hours doing whatever you like, with 100 g’s in your pocket.
Hello all. I'm not really sure how to classify this post. It's probably more a combination of a rant and realization. I joined this forum over 10 years ago with excitement to start something, posted some questions to get the ball roll rolling and then just stopped. Since then I have had multiple 9am-5pm jobs but was finally able to land a good job. I consider myself successful in my field, make good money for children's school, sports activities, auto leases and the once a year vacation. No matter what though, I still always randomly though about the "what if's". What if I would have opended something, what if I would have started drop-shipping early, what if I would have put money up for my wife to start her event company. Throughout all the "what if's", I still just kept moving forward like a solider with what I thought was success. It wasn't until about a month that things changed within. One of my kids said they wish they had a pool and that little statement which was so pure and innocent, pissed me off. Although it might be considered a spoiled statement, it made me question - "Why can't I have a pool". I currently rent and don't have a yard but this started to make me think, why don't I still have a house or at least a bigger place. These thoughts which should drive and push me are actually doing the opposite and suppressing me. I'm basically beating myself up for wasting precious time. When my first son was born I had dreams and plans, it is now 15 years later and I am in the same exact position. My family and I are healthy and again, I pay for so many extra activities, trips and items that my children would be considered privileged but is that it ? I still have to answer why I clocked in at 9:10am instead of 9:00am. I still have to hear my landlord telling me the kids are making too much noise and I still have to tell my wife - can food shopping wait until next week ? When all is said and done and I am 65 years old, I will finally be able to access my 401k and spend the money freely. I am furious just typing this.
Ok, rant over. Now the positive.
FINALLY, I made a move and started a small cleaning business. This is the field I am in for my daily job and consider myself experienced. It's in the commercial field which is more profitable then residential and I am able to use some of the labor and suppliers I know. I have a logo, business cards, domain email, and have been running Instagram ads. I have had some contacts with Instagram but they never came through. Any work I have had is from neighborhood locals. I am making profit but it's nothing to quit my job over but still, it's profit. This little bit of success has my mind going. The last couple of days I have been all over the place. The two things I keep coming back to are drop-shipping and private label. My wife and I always use to joke about selling these specific items. There is a market for them but unfortunately there are multiple companies, BUT marketing is key. If we can market it correctly then who knows what can happen, right ? As far as drop shipping, I know that is hit or miss. You either do good or you don't. Same with private label, except that may be worse because if you don't do go then you are stuck with the product.
What I do know is I want to do more alongside of my 9-5 and also my cleaning service. I want to have multiple things going on. It would be great if I could quite my job but not to sound negative, I don't believe that will ever be an option. The health benefits I receive override everything, especially for my wife. At this point in my life, I would be happy making $1,000 monthly profit off of one of these avenues. I know this may not be the right mindset but after years of living paycheck to paycheck, having $1,000 extra to pay bills or re-invest into something bigger would be a huge accomplishment for me.
Now the negative.
I don't have extra money to play with so I'm not sure which avenue to go. I don't have access to loans or credit cards so the little I have to invest is extremely important to me and want to make sure I spend wisely. Even though drop-shipping is saturated, can I at least get lucky with a positive couple of months ? I am not asking for anyone to hand it to me on a platter but I'm hoping someone can at least help me go in a positive direction. At one point, I was going to use chatGPT to help me right an e-book just to get something out there but I think that was the desperate part of me. I'm all over the place which is exciting.
Besides my wife who is supportive, I don't have anyone around me that I can talk with. My small circle of friends are robots and live their life textbook, step by step and will never think outside the box. If I brought this up to them, they will try to talk me out of it.
I'm hoping this turns into a positive post. Let me know your thoughts.
Sorry, I am confused don't mind my post, I thought for some reason this guy was 65.hire out the hard stuff. build it as a business. the 'old man' can do the sales / scheduling.
there is always a way
OK. How can I not find myself in the hospital when I am broke in a country where healthcare is not free, and I am still living paycheck to paycheck? Does that count?how can i'
Is it related to the Simon Sinek "Start with Why" content? Any other tips on finding the "Why".you need a compelling 'why'. something to drive you to no longer accept your current life. a foot to kick you into motion and to never take 'no' for an answer. to 'make' it happen.
@Vas87 what is your current why?
If you are unsure, there are a few other exercises you could use:
- what is your perfect day? who are you with? what are you doing? how much would it cost? (then go get that amount)
- what do you want them to say at your funeral? who do you want to have impacted? how would anyone know you were ever here?
- WHO is important to you in your life? what do THEY want? how could you help them get it?
hope that helps! talk it out.
Thanks I just made one :@Vas87 try creating the persona of who you need to be. Then use that to guide …..
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Now, each morning, I get up and look at that stupid poster and ask myself 'what would Leader Zane do today?'. Then I go crush the F*ck out of that. See, Leader Zane wouldn't eat a pile of donuts, because he is healthy. He would spend a few minutes on this forum to help create people, etc. etc. He would work on his business. He reads to gain knowledge.
To be Leader Zane, I just do what Leader Zane would do.
So, create 'Vas87 the Destroyer'. Would Vas87 the Destroyer sit around and scroll TikTok and sit around in negative land, or would Vas87 the Destroyer get his weak a$$ up and go Destroy stuff??!?!
Who do you want to be? What does that person do? Go do that.
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