1/12th of a year at a time - a progress thread

[Andy Black]

Maybe create a new progress thread specifically about dog training, and put it into the title?

I'm sure lots of forum members have dogs and would love to follow, engage, and support you in that thread.

 

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[random_username]

I have a dog, and he has never been trained by a professional, I "trained" him myself from Youtube videos when I was 25 and stupid. In the house he is best dog ever, until someone comes over, then he becomes annoying until everyone acknowledges his little royal a$$. When I walk him he is fine until some specific dogs come over, then he is a proper idiot, starts barking and everything. When I let him off the leash in the nature he's a cool little dog. Obviously I'm responsible for not training him properly, but that leaves me with following thoughts about the subject:
- It's not really dog training, is it? It's owner training, and that then helps the dogs? If I knew how to calm him down in those specific instances, he would act better
- Since I live in a small city, I don't have a proper person to hire to teach me. There are some popup training classes when people come from other cities, but I always miss the signup date since they only post it on social media, which I don't use
- Even if I knew everything about training the dogs, which I don't, people in my house know even less.
- He's fine 98% time, but that 2% of time he is annoying AF. Which makes me want to solve problem, but not enough to commit time to travel to fix it
- When I lived in the capital of my country, most dogs I came across were properly trained and listened to their owners. But here, in a small city, almost none do.
- Situations in which he behaves the worst, are the hardest for me to replicate and control variables.

I don't know is this useful, but I wish you all the best on your journey with that.

 

[Andy Black]

That local dog trainer didn't get back to us.

My wife's friend has a niece who does dog training. We messaged her and she's fully booked till end of May for home visits. She offered half price where we email her what's going on and she replies via email. We snap paid the €50.

 

[REV5028]

Maybe create a new progress thread

Done! Thanks for the suggestion.

EXECUTION - Setting Dogs and Their People Up for Success in Behavior, Health, and Life - Progress Thread

This thread is a continuation, or evolution, of my initial progress thread. My Personal Pain Points: June 2022: I rescued my adult male Rottweiler, Klaus. He had some major issues like extreme reactivity to other dogs (he even bit one in the face while on a walk within the first weeks I had...

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[REV5028]

It's not really dog training, is it? It's owner training, and that then helps the dogs? If I knew how to calm him down in those specific instances, he would act better

A lot of people make comments similar to this. It's not really about who is being trained, it's more that you and your dog are learning together to achieve the same goal - living peacefully together where you both get more or less what you want and need.

I don't have a proper person to hire to teach me.

Have you looked for virtual dog trainers? I've done it once with decent success, and I have seen/heard of a few others who offer virtual services.

people in my house know even less

It is very important that everyone in the house are on the same page.

most dogs I came across were properly trained and listened to their owners. But here, in a small city, almost none do.

This is an issue almost anywhere, and it's really the fault of the owners.

Situations in which he behaves the worst, are the hardest for me to replicate and control variables.

This can be good or bad. It means that he's not in those stressful situations often, which is good. It's bad also because it's harder to get to the root cause of what's triggering him. But, perhaps there are smaller, more subtle clues in your day-to-day life that lead up to him acting out?

 

[REV5028]

That local dog trainer didn't get back to us.

My wife's friend has a niece who does dog training. We messaged her and she's fully booked till end of May for home visits. She offered half price where we email her what's going on and she replies via email. We snap paid the €50.

Seems maybe that local trainer is struggling through a period of growth? Too many calls, not enough time or employees yet to help?

That's a great example of word of mouth advertising! Also, that's a neat work-around to offer email support at a discount when her in-person availability is booked. I'll keep that one in mind.

Thanks for sharing!

 

[random_username]

A lot of people make comments similar to this. It's not really about who is being trained, it's more that you and your dog are learning together to achieve the same goal - living peacefully together where you both get more or less what you want and need.


Have you looked for virtual dog trainers? I've done it once with decent success, and I have seen/heard of a few others who offer virtual services.


It is very important that everyone in the house are on the same page.


This is an issue almost anywhere, and it's really the fault of the owners.


This can be good or bad. It means that he's not in those stressful situations often, which is good. It's bad also because it's harder to get to the root cause of what's triggering him. But, perhaps there are smaller, more subtle clues in your day-to-day life that lead up to him acting out?

To be completely honest, I've given up few years ago on fixing it. I've chalked up both problems to my lack of knowledge and that it's good enough for a rescue dog that was in the rain for a a few months. I've watched a decent amount of videos and read some books, but I've never figured out a proper way to train him to fix those 2 issues. And spending 4,5 hours each day on walking and training is simply unrealistic. So whenever someone comes in the house they have to give him a belly rub and a treat and then he calms down. I take him on longer walks around 23:00 in the night, so there are fewer people and then he's calm the whole way. Anyway, I'm writing this because it might be useful to you as customer research, or maybe it's useless, I don't know. If you ever end up doing something virtual like an ebook or videos or something, feel free to send me a link.

 

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[REV5028]

To be completely honest, I've given up few years ago on fixing it. I've chalked up both problems to my lack of knowledge and that it's good enough for a rescue dog that was in the rain for a a few months. I've watched a decent amount of videos and read some books, but I've never figured out a proper way to train him to fix those 2 issues. And spending 4,5 hours each day on walking and training is simply unrealistic. So whenever someone comes in the house they have to give him a belly rub and a treat and then he calms down. I take him on longer walks around 23:00 in the night, so there are fewer people and then he's calm the whole way. Anyway, I'm writing this because it might be useful to you as customer research, or maybe it's useless, I don't know. If you ever end up doing something virtual like an ebook or videos or something, feel free to send me a link.

I understand. I'm not going to try to sell you anything, but as a consumer, what would it take you to see or hear to want to revisit the issues? To try again? Or is there nothing that would sway you?

 

[random_username]

I understand. I'm not going to try to sell you anything, but as a consumer, what would it take you to see or hear to want to revisit the issues? To try again? Or is there nothing that would sway you?

Some kind of proof and example that your way works and if I invest my time I will get behaviors I want from my dog. I don't want to hear any of the beginner advice such as:
- make sure to exercise him before training
- positive reinforcement only
- use tasty treats
- control variables around the behavior
- break behavior you want into simple steps
- any Cesar Milan leader of the pack BS

I want to see or hear specific examples how you fixed some problematic behavior.