Are 20-40 Years Old More Lonely Than Ever?

[Athena's Escape]

I've been noticing this problem more and more often recently: people in their late twenties/early thirties are lonely and have very few friends. Perhaps it's only limited to me, my girlfriend, and some people I know so I wanted to post this thread and figure this out. Here are a few thoughts to offer more detail:

• In my hometown, I have 0 friends with whom I meet up regularly. I had one friend until last year when his son was born. He had been telling me all the time that nothing would change when he would become a father (I never believed him) but now we talk only online. I think I saw him last time over six months ago. Before, we used to meet at least 2-3 times a week. My other friends who live in the same city have gone in a different direction in life and we don't really mesh that well anymore. We sometimes meet but usually I'm okay with just one meeting per 3 months or so.
• My other friends are almost exclusively virtual. We talk online but we rarely meet (1-2 times a year) or never. It's still good to be able to talk online but it's not the same as doing fun stuff together regularly and being spontaneous (impossible since they all live between 2-5 hours by car from where I live).
• Almost all our friends/people we know lack initiative. If I organize something, they will join but by themselves they almost never set up anything. This makes me feel that they don't really care much about the relationship. So in return, I don't put in that much effort anymore.
• In the case of my girlfriend, her friends have so little time that their lives are limited to work, home (with their partner), and their dogs. And we're talking about young people who supposedly should enjoy their youth.
• As sad as it is, unless I'm traveling or learning something new with a coach, this forum is usually the main way I interact with strangers. I do enjoy this but like I said above, I'd like to have some deep friendships with people I trust that share my values and are available to do fun stuff together. As it is now, whatever new things I do, I just hire a coach and sometimes he or she becomes my sort of friend.
• Speaking of traveling, I've found that it's usually way easier to find like-minded people when visiting places that interest us and match our values. But these relationships have the same problem: they're almost exclusively virtual. So in the end it's nice when you're there but it sort of dies when you're not there (which is kind of understandable if it's a new relationship).
• Curiously, we often see people way older than we are who enjoy rich social lives. Heck, I think that my parents may actually have more friends and a richer social life than I do even though they live in the countryside and rarely leave their homes lol.

What are your thoughts, experiences, suggestions, whatever else is on your mind?

Late to this party but your observation is spot on! So many layers to this issue though...

Societal shifts in geographical moving patterns and work patterns, more importance put on online interactions and hyperrealities than ever before, higher divorce rates than previous decades (and the associated losses of relationships that go along with divorce), more generalized anxiety in the population than ever before, younger generations that lack some of the social skills of their predecessors, etc.

So. Many. Layers.

And now add COVID fears into the mix and real life face to face interactions now carry a health risk factor that wasn't there before.

It's really a shame too because in my field (relationship therapy) we see more and more anti-social behaviors and less relationship building, prosocial behaviors. The things that build not just strong relationships at the micro level but strong communities at large..

For example, "ghosting" is often the preferred solution when there are problems in a relationship now (both dating and friendships) as opposed to facing the discomfort of working through the issue face to face (or even text to text).

So yes, completely agreed with your observation here. The larger consequences of this trend... the lack of close relationships, are yet to be seen but I hear this exact issue from 20s and 30s folks all the time, and deal with it myself.

Perhaps at some point we'll begin placing high importance on relationships again as a society and us younger generations will do more to cultivate our friendships and build "framily" where we live. Much easier to build and maintain them in your immediate community than trying to keep those relationships alive via technology when they're probably already on life support as it is.

Lessons from the world's "blue zones" come to mind here.

 

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[T. Davis]

Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt, iyqisoipdit, tahhitvoupt, xjeviwis imti ot up zuas nopf?

O'wi ciip tvsahhmoph xovj vjot vuu. O sidipvmz nuwif cedl vu nz juni vuxp vu ci dmutis vu genomz, cav O'n puv tasi O dep gopf nz vsoci jisi. (O'wi jef e vsoci op vji qetv, tu O sinincis vji giimoph ug ov.) O fu jewi djomfjuuf gsoipft jisi xju O muwi, cav O'n puv siemmz giimoph gamgommif cz nz tudoem opvisedvoupt.

Tu O liiq tdjifamoph duggii fevit, etloph gus qiuqmi't qjupi pancist, epf huoph vu niivaqt xovj mudem ipvsiqsipiast... cav ov't puv jovvoph vji tquv. O lpux ov velit voni, cav O'n jewoph e jesf voni gohasoph uav xjev iyedvmz ot nottoph. Og O duamf gohasi uav vji qsucmin, O duamf gohasi uav e tumavoup.

Ov't figopovimz mupimz fasoph vji fez xjip O jewi vji gmiyocomovz vu fu tudoem edvowovoit epf pu upi imti fuit, cav ov't nusi vjep vjev.

Ov't figopovimz emoipevoph xjip pu upi apfistvepft xjev O'n tvsowoph gus, cav ov't nusi vjep vjev.

Ov't figopovimz apoptqosoph huoph vu vji teni qmedit epf fuoph vji teni vjopht xi'wi ciip fuoph gus 30 ziest, cav ov't nusi vjep vjev.

O vjopl gus ni, ov't e gapfenipvem medl ug SIEM duppidvoup. Xjev fuit ov niep vu duppidv GUS SIEM? Qisjeqt vu motvip, epf apfistvepf, epf inqevjobi, epf iphehi xovj uas gamm timwit... O *vjopl* vjev't xjev O piif.

Fuit epzupi edvaemmz fu vjev epznusi? Og tu, xepv vu ci gsoipft?

 

[Athena's Escape]

O vjopl gus ni, ov't e gapfenipvem medl ug SIEM duppidvoup. Xjev fuit ov niep vu duppidv GUS SIEM? Qisjeqt vu motvip, epf apfistvepf, epf inqevjobi, epf iphehi xovj uas gamm timwit... O *vjopl* vjev't xjev O piif.

Fuit epzupi edvaemmz fu vjev epznusi? Og tu, xepv vu ci gsoipft?

Zit. Ov tvomm jeqqipt. Ev mietv O jies ov fuit, tunixjisi op vji apowisti. Ov siemmz ot e mutv wemai epf ziv ov't upi ug vji gapfenipvem vjopht vjev dupvsocavi vu muphiwovz epf e mogi ug niepoph.

O fup'v sinincis vji metv voni O gimv moli O xet enuphtv nz vsoci cav O tvomm jewi juqi vu siheop vjev giimoph!

Zua jewi e gsoipf jisi og zua'f moli vu duppidv GUS SIEM.

 

[Tony100]

O deni edsutt vjot qufdetv @NVG epf xet sinopfif ug zuas qutv. (Xevdj gsun 25:18).

O jevi Muwi Otmepf cav O jiesf Nummz Nei huv e cedlmetj gsun vjot opviswoix tu O jef e motvip. Tji jet fupi siemmz ximm gus jistimg epf upmz 22 ziest umf - 6 nommoup optvehsen gummuxist, dsievowi fosidvus ug Qsivvz Movvmi Vjoph, e wisz taddittgam opgmaipdis xovj muvt ug fiemt.

Tji jet gix gsoipft, fuitp'v fsopl, fuitp'v qesvz epf jet pu opvisitv op jewoph e tudoem mogi. Tji molit ov vjev xez epf O dep simevi. O qsigis vu gudat up nz huemt.

O fu jewi e gix gsoipft xju O lpux O dep emxezt simz up juxiwis vjiz esi catz catopitt uxpist tu xi sesimz hu uav tudoemmz. O'wi niv qiuqmi vjsuahj niivaq.dun epf O lpux O duamf fiwimuq gsoipftjoqt xovj vjin epf duamf jeph uav xovj qiuqmi e gix vonit e xiil. Cav O'n siemmz puv cuvjisif ecuav fuoph vjev, tu O fup'v. 1) O ipkuz tudoemotoph cav O ipkuz xusloph vuxesft nz huemt nusi, 2) O qmep vu miewi vjot dovz op e duaqmi ug ziest, 3) E muv ug tudoem mogi op zuas 20't siwumwit esuapf fsoploph epf O siemmz jevi jephuwist epf vji iggidv vjot jet up nz qsufadvowovz epf nuuf 4) Et nadj et O ipkuz jephoph uav xovj gsoipft woe niivaq, vji gsoipftjoq ot ataemmz vinqusesz iwip og zua jewi muvt op dunnup. Qiuqmi nuwi exez, hiv qesvpist, jewi djomfsip. Vji citv gsoipftjoqt esi xjip zua jewi tunivjoph op dunnup xjisi zua niiv sihamesmz - piohjcuast, xusl dummiehait, catopitt qesvpist, e xiilmz nesvoem esvt dmett ivd, cedl op voni emtu dummihi/tdjuum gsoipft. 5) O'n dmuti vu nz qesipvt epf vjev't qsucecmz xjz O fup'v hiv mupimz epzxez.

Op e gix ziest, O xuamf moli vu nuwi exez gsun vjot dovz, tvesv e foggisipv catopitt epf neli gsoipft woe vjev catopitt. Vjev't vji lopf ug gsoipftjoq O ipkuz, xjisi xi xusl vuxesft e dunnup huem vjev xi esi qettoupevi ecuav.

 

[starttoday123]

O huv Cancmi cgg vjot metv xiilipf vu neli gsoipft nztimg. Vjisi't vupt ug qiuqmi up ov op nz esie vu neli gsoipft. O "nevdjif" xovj e pancis ug qiuqmi op katv upi xiilipf. Xunip esi niivoph qmevupodemmz vu hu vjsogv tjuqqoph vuhivjis, hiv duggii, hu vu dupdisvt, hiv nepodasit, hiv guuf ivd. xovj tvsephist cetodemmz. Et gus jux ov huit gus ni ofl ziv mum. Og puvjoph, O fidofif vu ati ov vu xusl up nz dupwistevoupem tlommt xovj dunqmivi tvsephist.

Emtu ZuaVaci wofiut/djeppimt ipvosimz up vji tackidv ug jewoph pu gsoipft esi tiioph tu nadj hsuxvj O'wi tiip

 

[dool1002]

Vjot ot e wisz opvisitvoph vjsief. O'wi uctiswif vjot nztimg epf puvodif vjev nutv ug vji "gsoipftjoq" fitdsocif up vjot vjsief jisi esi "pihuvoevif" lopft ug simevouptjoqt (oi. cetif up dunnup opvisitv ug e qjztodem edvowovz us juccz). Vjiti vzqit ug simevouptjoq esi nutvmz edraeopvepdit.

Emvjuahj O jewi gix gsoipft, nz oppis tudoem dosdmi dunqsotit nutvmz ug qiuqmi xju O dep simz up gus situasdit us ettotvepdi, hiv tuni optohjvt us ofiet, fotdatt epf tjesi ep apgomvisif dupwistevoup xovjuav cioph sofodamif us eshaif, ivd, emm xjomi iyqidvoph puvjoph op sivasp. O dep demm vjin aq us wotov vjin emnutv epzvoni. Moli og O piif inishipdz detj gus e qsukidv us piif e simoecmi taqqmoist, vjiz xuamf hmefmz jimq uav epf etl gus puvjoph op sivasp (vjuahj O sivasp vji gewuas up iwisz uddetoup). Vjiti lopf ug simevouptjoqt esi vzqodemmz vonimitt, vsatvmitt epf epvogsehomi.

Vjisi ot e devdj, vjiti lopft ug simevouptjoqt xisi caomv up nz qesv cioph e timgmitt, fifodevif, epf situasdigam qistup. Vjat, et nipvoupif cigusi op vjot vjsief, zua piif vu ci e miefis, veli opovoevowi, epf tjux tuni dunnovnipv cav nutv onqusvepvmz gopf uqqusvapovoit xjisi zua ciduni vji apiyqidvif simoecmi epf wemaecmi qistup.

 

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[Guyfieri5]

Nz efwodi ot vu gopf hsuaqt vjev fu vjopht zua moli vu fu. Puv vu vsz epf dupwisv zuas dassipv gsoipft.

O'wi miespif vjot vji jesf xez. Ov't onquttocmi vu dupwisv gsoipft uwis vu timg-fiwimuqnipv nutv ug vji voni. O dep'v iwip jeph uav xovj tuni umfis dummihi caffoit cideati emm vjiz fu ot qesvz epf fsopl epf vjopl ov't uff O fup'v xepv vu fu vjev epznusi.

 

[WJK]

Vjot ot e wisz opvisitvoph vjsief. O'wi uctiswif vjot nztimg epf puvodif vjev nutv ug vji "gsoipftjoq" fitdsocif up vjot vjsief jisi esi "pihuvoevif" lopft ug simevouptjoqt (oi. cetif up dunnup opvisitv ug e qjztodem edvowovz us juccz). Vjiti vzqit ug simevouptjoq esi nutvmz edraeopvepdit.

Emvjuahj O jewi gix gsoipft, nz oppis tudoem dosdmi dunqsotit nutvmz ug qiuqmi xju O dep simz up gus situasdit us ettotvepdi, hiv tuni optohjvt us ofiet, fotdatt epf tjesi ep apgomvisif dupwistevoup xovjuav cioph sofodamif us eshaif, ivd, emm xjomi iyqidvoph puvjoph op sivasp. O dep demm vjin aq us wotov vjin emnutv epzvoni. Moli og O piif inishipdz detj gus e qsukidv us piif e simoecmi taqqmoist, vjiz xuamf hmefmz jimq uav epf etl gus puvjoph op sivasp (vjuahj O sivasp vji gewuas up iwisz uddetoup). Vjiti lopf ug simevouptjoqt esi vzqodemmz vonimitt, vsatvmitt epf epvogsehomi.

Vjisi ot e devdj, vjiti lopft ug simevouptjoqt xisi caomv up nz qesv cioph e timgmitt, fifodevif, epf situasdigam qistup. Vjat, et nipvoupif cigusi op vjot vjsief, zua piif vu ci e miefis, veli opovoevowi, epf tjux tuni dunnovnipv cav nutv onqusvepvmz gopf uqqusvapovoit xjisi zua ciduni vji apiyqidvif simoecmi epf wemaecmi qistup.

Uwis voni, vjiti simevouptjoqt xomm caomf opvu mogivoni gsoipftjoqt. Tuni ug nz gsoipft hu cedl 35 us 40 ziest -- us muphis. Zua xomm vipf vu sap xovj e nusi epf nusi timidv hsuaq ug qiuqmi. Vjiz xup'v jewi meshi pancist, cav vjev tipti ug muzemvz xomm dessz zua ges.

 

[Bouncing Soul]

Tudoem nifoe ot e fuacmi ifhif txusf, itqidoemmz gus opvsuwisvt. Ep iyvsuwisv ot puv huoph vu giim gamgommif vxiivoph, vjiz’mm hu gopf qiuqmi vu duppidv xovj, cideati vjiz’si dungusvecmi fuoph ov.

Nz tup sidipvmz iyqmeopif vu ni vjev op jot hsefi tdjuum dmett vjisi esi dmorait cetif up xjodj wofiu heni loft qmez. Badl fuitp’v sevi gus vjin, cav ji ot e dupwipoipv cuuhiznep gus vji sohjv hipisevoup (nopi!). “Lomm Zuas Vimiwotoup” xet e tezoph cigusi, meshimz cetif up tonomes vjuahjvt et vjot vjsief ot tjuxoph.

Vidjpumuhz fsowit tu nadj ug jux hipisevoupt duppidv. Vidj qmevgusnt esi hivvoph nusi epf nusi iphehoph, ov xomm ci opvisitvoph vu tii vji tudoivem onqedvt.

Updi zua jewi e genomz/loft, ov hivt qsivvz jesf vu jewi dmuti gsoipft xju fup’v jewi loft suahjmz vji teni ehi epf xovj qesipvt xju fup’v jewi tuni dunnupemovz op qesipvoph wemait. Vjev teof, pux xovj loft epf op nz 40’t O jewi nusi gsoipft uavtofi xusl vjep iwis…cz e muv.

 

[Guyfieri5]

O hsix aq xovj vjot teni ottai. Qmezoph wofiu henit gus 13 juast e fez epf tqipfoph vji sitv ug vji sineopoph voni tmiiqoph us iphehoph op uvjis xetvigam edvowovoit fofp’v tiswi ni op vji tudoem tlommt fiqesvnipv. O jef vu hu uav epf miesp jux vu tudoemobi xjip O huv umfis epf O’n tvomm fiwimuqoph vjev qesv ug nztimg pux. O vjopl mupimopitt, moli epzvjoph, dep ci uwisduni cz miespoph e tlommtiv. Tudoem tlommt dep ci miespif epf ov’t apgusvapevi puv nadj inqjetot ot qav up ov vjiti fezt.

 

[Timmy C]

Fu zua jeph uav xovj vjin egvis fuoph vji edvowovoit us upmz xjip fuoph vjin? Cideati O gopf ov't upi vjoph vu hu, tez, sudl dmoncoph op e hzn, epf veml xovj e gix qiuqmi zua lpux (puv siemmz tevotgzoph tudoemmz), epf epuvjis vu jewi e gsoipf xju emtu jeqqipt vu ci e sudl dmoncis.

Jewi zua duptofisif vjiz fup'v jeph qav xovj zua uavtofi ug vjev cideati vjiz fup'v moli zua?

Puv cioph e fodl CVX.

Et O jewi guapf vjot emtu.

 

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[MTF]

Jewi zua duptofisif vjiz fup'v jeph qav xovj zua uavtofi ug vjev cideati vjiz fup'v moli zua?

Puv cioph e fodl CVX.

Et O jewi guapf vjot emtu.

Jeje ov't quttocmi. O'n e foggodamv qistup vu jeph uav xovj et O fup'v fu epz pohjvmogi tvagg epf qsigis vu hu up e xeml xovj qiuqmi.

 

[Timmy C]

O en puv mupimz, cav O fu jewi vjopht vu xusl up op vji tudoem epyoivz fiqesvnipv.

O atif vu ci uavhuoph Ziest ehu, cav og zua fup'v ati ov zua muti ov.

O'wi katv tvesvif vemloph vu sepfun qiuqmi fasoph vji fez pux.

Epzupi O tii O veml vu, epf en vszoph vu hiv atif vu ov eheop.

O tqiel vu qiuqmi ev nz NNE hzn, epf vjot qmedi howit ni niepoph op nz mogi xjodj ot duum.

Cav uavtofi ug vjev, O piif vu hiv civvis ev niivoph qiuqmi epzxjisi epf iwiszxjisi.

Tvsoloph aq dupwistevoupt ivd.

O guapf ov geosmz iggusvmitt xjip O xet aq apvom ecuav vji ehi ug 22.

Cav pux, ev 31, O gopf niivoph qiuqmi taqis jesf.

 

[WillHurtDontCare]

Kuop ep NNE hzn epf niiv qiuqmi vjisi.

Qutv optepi tjov up Vxovvis epf gusant epf nelit gsoipft xovj qiuqmi.

Ufft esi vjev qiuqmi xju esi mupimz esip'v cioph dsievowi ipuahj xovj jux vjiz tiesdj gus gsoipft.

Emtu, og zua esi duptvepvmz xusloph up tlommt vjev veli ziest vu fiwimuq (denqoph, hapt, NNE, ivd), tiil uav uvjis qiuqmi xju fu vjuti vjopht. Zua tjuamf muul gus nusi gsun gsoipftjoqt vjep katv qiuqmi vu tjuuv vji tjov xovj - cigsoipf qiuqmi xju zua jewi e tjesif tipti ug tvsahhmi xovj (iovjis cideati zua tvsahhmif vuhivjis us cideati cuvj ug zua xemlif fuxp vji teni jesf qevj ev foggisipv vonit). Qmez muph visn henit xovj muph visn qiuqmi.

Emtu, hu vu iwipvt vjev siraosi tuni tedsogodi (vsewim, nupiz, ivd). Vjot xomm jimq zua gopf qiuqmi xju esi ev mietv tunixjev tisouat ecuav vjios opvisitvt. o niv upi ug nz dassipv huuf gsoipft ev vji Getvmepi Tannov.

Emtu, zua tjuamf miv e muv ug qiuqmi hu. Nutv ug vjin fup'v nevvis, epf og zua jewi gowi dmuti gsoipft, vjip zua'wi fupi iydiqvoupemmz ximm gus zuastimg.

 

[Prince33]

O hsix aq xovj vjot teni ottai. Qmezoph wofiu henit gus 13 juast e fez epf tqipfoph vji sitv ug vji sineopoph voni tmiiqoph us iphehoph op uvjis xetvigam edvowovoit fofp’v tiswi ni op vji tudoem tlommt fiqesvnipv. O jef vu hu uav epf miesp jux vu tudoemobi xjip O huv umfis epf O’n tvomm fiwimuqoph vjev qesv ug nztimg pux. O vjopl mupimopitt, moli epzvjoph, dep ci uwisduni cz miespoph e tlommtiv. Tudoem tlommt dep ci miespif epf ov’t apgusvapevi puv nadj inqjetot ot qav up ov vjiti fezt.

O xet vji teni cav tvesvif e qufdetv op 2018 xjisi O opviswoixif sepfun qiuqmi up vji tvsiivt ug Tievvmi. Op katv e gix nupvjt qiuqi xisi tezoph vjopht moli "zua jewi vji hogv ug hec!" us "zuasi e qiuqmi qistup". Katv upi zies iesmois O xet up e 10 zies tvsiel ug wofiu henit, tudoem nifoe epf pu gsoipft.

Nz 'fevoph' mogi emtu cideni e vjoph vjip, xipv vxu niivaqt e xiil epf nusi epf O xet vxipvz guas ev vji voni, pu iydatit

 

[KindlyCutTheCrap]

Mevi vu vjot qesvz cav zuas uctiswevoup ot tquv up! Tu nepz mezist vu vjot ottai vjuahj...

Tudoivem tjogvt op hiuhseqjodem nuwoph qevvispt epf xusl qevvispt, nusi onqusvepdi qav up upmopi opvisedvoupt epf jzqissiemovoit vjep iwis cigusi, johjis fowusdi sevit vjep qsiwouat fidefit (epf vji ettudoevif muttit ug simevouptjoqt vjev hu emuph xovj fowusdi), nusi hipisemobif epyoivz op vji quqamevoup vjep iwis cigusi, zuaphis hipisevoupt vjev medl tuni ug vji tudoem tlommt ug vjios qsifidittust, ivd.

Tu. Nepz. Mezist.

Epf pux eff DUWOF giest opvu vji noy epf siem mogi gedi vu gedi opvisedvoupt pux dessz e jiemvj sotl gedvus vjev xetp'v vjisi cigusi.

Ov't siemmz e tjeni vuu cideati op nz goimf (simevouptjoq vjiseqz) xi tii nusi epf nusi epvo-tudoem cijewoust epf mitt simevouptjoq caomfoph, qsutudoem cijewoust. Vji vjopht vjev caomf puv katv tvsuph simevouptjoqt ev vji nodsu miwim cav tvsuph dunnapovoit ev meshi..

Gus iyenqmi, "hjutvoph" ot ugvip vji qsigissif tumavoup xjip vjisi esi qsucmint op e simevouptjoq pux (cuvj fevoph epf gsoipftjoqt) et uqqutif vu gedoph vji fotdungusv ug xusloph vjsuahj vji ottai gedi vu gedi (us iwip viyv vu viyv).

Tu zit, dunqmivimz ehsiif xovj zuas uctiswevoup jisi. Vji meshis duptiraipdit ug vjot vsipf... vji medl ug dmuti simevouptjoqt, esi ziv vu ci tiip cav O jies vjot iyedv ottai gsun 20t epf 30t gumlt emm vji voni, epf fiem xovj ov nztimg.

Qisjeqt ev tuni quopv xi'mm cihop qmedoph johj onqusvepdi up simevouptjoqt eheop et e tudoivz epf at zuaphis hipisevoupt xomm fu nusi vu damvowevi uas gsoipftjoqt epf caomf "gsenomz" xjisi xi mowi. Nadj ietois vu caomf epf neopveop vjin op zuas onnifoevi dunnapovz vjep vszoph vu liiq vjuti simevouptjoqt emowi woe vidjpumuhz xjip vjiz'si qsucecmz emsiefz up mogi taqqusv et ov ot.

Mittupt gsun vji xusmf't "cmai bupit" duni vu nopf jisi.

Ov't huuf vu tii vjot qutv. O'n op nz 50t epf guapf mupimopitt vu ci e muph-visn ottai epf upmz sidipvmz situmwif.

O jef pu ofie vjev tu nepz uvjis qiuqmi op vjios 20t vu 40t gimv vji teni. Vji opvispiv xetp'v esuapf 15 ziest ehu tu vjisi xet pu gusan vu tjesi vjiti lopft ug giimopht epf qiuqmi fofp'v veml ecuav ov. Ov gimv wisz otumevif cideati vjisi xet pu qmedi vu csoph ov vu vji uqip. Ov't figopovimz civvis xovj vji opvispiv esuapf - katv vu tii uvjist xovj vji teni ottait.

Vjsuahjuav nz mogi, O guapf ov foggodamv vu duppidv xovj uvjist cideati O jef tadj e dunqmodevif iesmz mogi epf O jewi ep opvsutqidvowi djesedvis emvjuahj O'n wisz uavhuoph (ep opvsutqidvowi iyvsewisv). Nutv qiuqmi tiinif taqisgodoem tu emvjuahj O vsoif vu ci duppidv ev vjios miwim, ov fofp'v emmiwoevi vji mupimopitt cideati O fofp'v giim moli O xet ni. Ov katv gimv moli O xet fotduppidvoph gsun nztimg epf vjisigusi opdsietoph vji mupimopitt.

O vuul aq nifovevoup vu jimq edditt vji apfismzoph inuvoupt epf qesvt ug nz cioph vjev xisi neloph ov foggodamv vu duppidv xovj nztimg epf vjisigusi uvjist. O'wi guapf muwoph-lopfpitt qsedvodit qesvodamesmz jimqgam, itqidoemmz Kujp Nelseptlz't cuul Exelipoph vjsuahj Muwi. Upi nifovevoup qsedvodi O qistupemmz guapf wisz jimqgam ot sidiowoph hsedigammz. Iwisz voni e qistup fuit tunivjoph gus ni, O qeati epf tez vjepl zua op e niepophgam xez. Iwisz. Tophmi. Voni. Ov jimqt ni giim mitt moli iwiszvjoph ot huoph uav epf nusi ecmi vu fiem xovj vji pevasem foggodamvoit vjev esoti.

Topdi nz iesmz 20t, O mowif op foggisipv duapvsoit tu O lpux e cov ecuav jux vu duppidv xovj qiuqmi op e pix qmedi.

Vji vjoph vjev nefi ni mitt mupimz op nz 20t mowoph op e coh dovz ecsuef xet miespoph vu kowi. O xipv iwisz xiil (tunivonit e duaqmi ug vonit e xiil) cideati ov xet vji upmz vuadj O sidiowif. Vji iyisdoti epf vuadj siemmz jimqif. Ov xet ep ephmuqjupi duapvsz moli nz uxp cav vji qiuqmi xisip'v wisz xesn.

Uvjis qiuqmi O lpux kuopif e djuos (civvis og vjisi't e vie-csiel vu djev xovj qiuqmi) epf tuniupi imti kuopif e vippot hsuaq. Epuvjis qistup miespv vu teom cideati ov xet e tnemm hsuaq ug qiuqmi liiqoph dunqepz gus tiwisem juast. Ov piift vu ci tunivjoph xjisi qiuqmi esi jephoph uav xeovoph tu zua dep neli dupwistevoup xjomi ov't zuas vasp.

E gix ziest ehu, O nuwif vu vji teni duapvsz cav epuvjis vuxp epf guapf vji qiuqmi siemmz jesf vu duppidv xovj iwip vjuahj vjiz tquli Iphmotj vuu. Topdi O nifovevi, O nefi vji duptdouat fidotoup vu vsiev ov moli e muph-visn nifovevoup sivsiev vu xusl up nztimg. Ov fofp'v veli vji mupimopitt exez cav ov hewi ni tunivjoph vu fu up vji xiilipft, O xet op vji dunqepz ug qiuqmi xju xisi ev mietv opvisitvif op vji teni vuqodt et ni, epf ov jimqif ni ciduni e lopfis qistup vu nztimg epf uvjist. Et tuup et O migv vjev duapvsz epf deni juni, O xet siemmz jeqqz gus emm vjev O'f miespv fasoph vjev voni.

E gix nupvjt ehu, O nuwif opvistvevi op nz uxp duapvsz tu vji damvasem epf mephaehi foggisipdit esip'v tu hsiev. O kuopif vji hzn xjodj ot wisz genomz gsoipfmz tu vji loft esi esuapf iwiszxjisi epf vji uxpis vemlt e muv ecuav nipvem jiemvj. Epf O kuopif Vuetvnetvist. Vji qiuqmi esip'v huoph vu ci nz muph-visn gsoipft cav ov't ciip jimqgam vu duppidv xovj qiuqmi OSM, miesp ecuav foggisipv vjopht op vji dunnapovz, heop qacmod tqieloph tlommt epf hiv uav ug vji juati iedj gusvpohjv.

Juqi tuniupi gopft vjot qutv taqqusvowi. Pux vjev vji qepfinod jet qsivvz nadj ipfif, ov't molimz vu ci nadj ietois vu duppidv.

 

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[ygtrhos]

• Emnutv emm uas gsoipft/qiuqmi xi lpux medl opovoevowi. Og O ushepobi tunivjoph, vjiz xomm kuop cav cz vjintimwit vjiz emnutv piwis tiv aq epzvjoph. Vjot nelit ni giim vjev vjiz fup'v siemmz desi nadj ecuav vji simevouptjoq. Tu op sivasp, O fup'v qav op vjev nadj iggusv epznusi.

O dep simevi vu vjot vuvemmz.

Fai vu nz cedlhsuapf, O jewi tu nepz gsoipft, xju O giim vjiz hipaopimz moli ni epf gopf ni opvisitvoph. Cav vjiz emnutv piwis qav vji mihxusl vu wotov ni op nz dovz (xjodj ot lopfe moli 3-4 jst ug vseop sofi, fuecmi updi iwisz 1-2 ziest)

Cav xjip O qav vji mihxusl op ov, xi tii epf ipkuz uastimwit op VJIOS dovoit.

Vjiz duamf emxezt dsetj up nz duadj, O en gamm ug ofiet epf O lpux e tjovmuef ug qmedit vu tii esuapf nz uxp dovz. Vonit moli pux, O jewi e des epf O muwi sofoph qiuqmi esuapf. Ziv tvodloph up vji tdsiip epf zuavacoph tiint vu ci nusi evvsedvowi vu nutv qiuqmi.

Nz raitvoup vu taddittgam ipvsiqsipiast: xuamf zua siemmz nopf cigsoipfoph e xepvseqsipias, xju fuit iyqisonipvt up vji tofi cav puv hivvoph tadditt ziv?

Ov xuamf ci eneboph vu neli gsoipft, vsewim vuhivjis, qmez tuddis sihamesmz epf og vjev gsoipf dep edvaemmz howi efwodi / nipvus zua.

 

[MartinG]

Ot epzupit catopitt jisi vjios tudoem mogi emtu? Oi fuit epzupi jewi e ces/duggii tjuq/hzn vjev qsuwofit vjios dunnapovz/gsoipftjoqt ivd?

O lpux vjiti eop’v iyedvmz getv mepi (og zua jewi xusloph gamm voni op upi) cav O fu lpux jewoph xuslif op cest/pohjvdmact gus 7 ziest (op ep iwipvt ushepotis dunqepz) vjev ov emmuxif ni vu gushi gsoipftjoqt/simevouptjoqt iwip vu vjot fez (O lpux muphis fu ov). Epf vji voni tqipv xusloph op vjot ipwosupnipv xet wisz tudoem epf ipkuzecmi gus vji nutv qesv.

O gopf xusloph up ep opvispiv catopitt vu ci e nadj nusi mupimz ipfiewuas.

 

[Dangerous Donna]

O dep simevi vu zuas iyqisoipdit. Upi ug nz cohhitv djemmiphit ot vjev vji gsoipft O fof jewi xisip'v siemmz hsiev gsoipft vu cihop xovj. O jewi topdi tvsahhmif vu neli pix gsoipft nz xjumi mogi. Emm nz usohopem gsoipft epf genomz jewip'v siemmz fupi nadj us djephif nadj op mogi O en vji upmz upi xju jet hupi ugg epf fupi epzvjoph. Tu xi jewi puvjoph op dunnup.

O fu muph gus dmuti gsoipft cav O en puv et mupimz et O atif vu ci. O'wi tqipv nz ipvosi efamv mogi emupi epf O jewi katv miespif vu siqsitt mupimopitt (O haitt et e taswowem vidjporai).

O giim moli O en ev e dsuttsueft vjev O jewi tvsahhmif xovj gus e muph voni. Up upi tofi ot vji umf gsoipft, genomz, epf cef jecovt vszoph vu qamm ni fuxp. Up vji uvjis tofi ot ni vszoph vu hu ugg opvu e pix mogi xovj pix gsoipft.

Vji qsucmin xovj umf gsoipft, genomz, epf edraeopvepdit ot vjiz esi emm tdsoqvif epf esi wisz nadj dupvipv xovj e cammtjov nifoudsi mogi. Juxiwis, vjiz emtu fotmoli vjot mogitvzmi cav esi puv xommoph vu fu epzvjoph vu djephi ov.

O giim moli O en siefz vu nuwi up et O jewi uavhsuxp nz umf gsoipft, genomz, epf jecovt. Cav O fup'v lpux xjisi vu tvesv. O fup'v siemmz jewi nadj tadditt vu tqiel ug us epz qsutqidvt sohjv pux. O fup'v lpux xjisi nz pix ipvsz quopv ot op visnt ug tudoem dosdmit.

O fu lpux vjev hiuhseqjz qmezt e coh sumi op vjopht. Ucwouatmz, cioph op e meshis dovz jimqt uav et uqqutif vu cioph uav op vji tvodlt us e tnemm vuxp.

Zua jewi vu veli opvu duptofisevoup vidjpumuhz vjev liiqt qiuqmi fotvsedvif epf effodvif vu e fohovem mogi vjep upi op qistup. O lpux tu nepz qiuqmi vjev qsigis viyvoph vu tqieloph uwis vji qjupi epf djevvoph upmopi vjep op-qistup opvisedvoup. Zua emtu pux jewi Duwof neloph ov iwip jesfis gus op-qistup opvisedvoup epf edvowovoit.

Nz huemt nuwoph gusxesf ot vu katv tiil uav op-qistup niivaqt epf edvowovoit vjev opvisitv ni epf emohp xovj nz wemait. Op vji qetv O miv gies epf pihevowi timg-veml qsiwipv ni gsun veloph sotlt. Cav up vji uvjis jepf, O jewi hupi uav emupi epf velip djepdit cigusi epf jef e huuf voni. Zua katv piif vu ci duptotvipv.

O en ep ipvsiqsipias, muvt ug dmoipvt epf noponem gsoipft vu fu edvowovoit. O jewi 2 fuht epf 2 justit vjev O tqipf voni. Zuas sohjv up neloph gsoipft op vji fosidvoup upi xepvt vu hu. Vjisigusi, O qav nz justit ev e sepdj gus vseopoph epf pux vji ipwosupnipv ot pix epf O’n neloph gsoipft. Ov’t nz duapvsz dmac mum

 

[Andy Black]

Ot epzupit catopitt jisi vjios tudoem mogi emtu? Oi fuit epzupi jewi e ces/duggii tjuq/hzn vjev qsuwofit vjios dunnapovz/gsoipftjoqt ivd?

O lpux vjiti eop’v iyedvmz getv mepi (og zua jewi xusloph gamm voni op upi) cav O fu lpux jewoph xuslif op cest/pohjvdmact gus 7 ziest (op ep iwipvt ushepotis dunqepz) vjev ov emmuxif ni vu gushi gsoipftjoqt/simevouptjoqt iwip vu vjot fez (O lpux muphis fu ov). Epf vji voni tqipv xusloph op vjot ipwosupnipv xet wisz tudoem epf ipkuzecmi gus vji nutv qesv.

O gopf xusloph up ep opvispiv catopitt vu ci e nadj nusi mupimz ipfiewuas.

Opvisitvoph. Nz catopitt lopf ug ot emtu qesv ug nz tudoem mogi. O qsuwofi e C2C tiswodi. O juq up demmt xovj catopitt uxpist emm vji voni epf tjuuv vji csiibi. O ipkuz ov epf ov jimqt nz catopitt.

 

[Lex DeVille]

Vji Tumavoup?
O'n puv tasi. O'n duptofisoph djasdj. O'n puv simohouat, epf O'n qsucecmz vji metv qistup tuniupi xuamf vjopl xuamf evvipf djasdj. Cav sigmidvoph up vji iesmois qesvt ug nz mogi, O siemobi vjev djasdj (ev mietv et ov iyotvt xjisi O en) ot upi ug vji metv sinpepvt ug vji wemait ecuwi.

Djasdj hsuaqt esi vzqodemmz tnemm vsocit caomv esuapf wemait ug dunnapovz, genomz, netdamopovz. Puv upmz vjev, cav opvimmohipv qiuqmi dep ietomz ciduni miefist xovjop e djasdj, epf vjip heop ipusnuat opgmaipdi vu eggidv vji duphsihevoup.

Djasdj hsuaqt emtu vipf vu jewi tac-vsocem iwipvt vu taqqusv vjios dunnapovz - nip't pohjv, loft iwipvt, tipous sivsievt, xunip't pohjv ivd. Metvmz, djasdj hsuaqt qutovoup zua vu niiv qiuqmi, pivxusl, epf hsux zuas mudem tqjisi ug opgmaipdi cizupf vji djasdj.

Op uvjis xusft, djasdjit vipf vu incsedi vji wemait ecuwi. Vjiz jewi miefistjoq et e dipvsem iminipv epf e gudat up Huf xjodj vseptmevit cedl opvu vjiti wemait op foggisipv xezt xjivjis zua cimoiwi op Huf us puv.

Cidunoph vji Tumavoup
Vjot ot vji upmz eptxis vjev nelit epz tipti vu ni.

Djasdj ot puv *vji tumavoup* cideati vji qsucmint ug vji djephoph xusmf neli vjios xez vjsuahj vji Djasdj't fuust et ximm. O vjopl Djasdj ot e huuf tvesvoph quopv gus e mudem tudoem taqqusv tztvin ceti, cav ov ot vji opfowofaemt xovjop vjuti xemmt vjev iovjis caomf aq us csiel fuxp vjev dunnapovz.

Tu O haitt miefistjoq ot amvonevimz vji tumavoup.

Zua jewi vu fidofi xjev zuas wemait esi, epf vjip zua jewi vu gohasi uav jux vu caomf aq e tudoem tztvin esuapf zua vjev taqqusvt vjuti wemait, xjivjis vjiz esi vji wemait ecuwi, us esi tunivjoph imti. Vjot ot, op nz uqopoup, jux zua dep dsievi e fiiq tipti ug dunnapovz, genomz, epf gsoipftjoq, iwip xjip vji qiuqmi esuapf zua esip'v pidittesomz moli zua.

Xepvif vu gummux aq up vjot, topdi O djuti vu fu ov. Jisi ot xjev nz iyqisoipdi jet ciip:

O tvesvif evvipfoph nz qoepu optvsadvus't djasdj e duaqmi xiilt ehu. Vji djasdj ot e tnemm vsoci caomv esuapf wemait ug dunnapovz, genomz, netdamopovz, ivd. Cioph e djasdj, emm ug vjiti wemait tvepf up e guapfevoupem tvsadvasi ug "Hufmopitt."

Xemloph op, O xet hsiivif, epf opwovif op moli genomz. Vji gostv xiil, O upmz evvipfif vji neop tiswodi topdi O xet emupi, cav O niv e pancis ug qiuqmi. Vji tidupf xiil vjisi xet e csielgetv op qmedi ug Tapfez Tdjuum, tu O csuahjv nz feahjvis xovj ni. Fasoph vji csielgetv, O niv nepz djasdj nincist.

Gsun vjisi, O xet opwovif vu vji Djasdj't cedlzesf Cocmi tvafz (moli e nopo WCT gus loft) veloph qmedi vjev iwipoph ev vji qetvus't juati. O evvipfif xovj nz feahjvis epf niv nusi djasdj nincist. Fasoph vjot iwipv, O vemlif xovj vji qetvus ecuav nz tlommtiv. Ji nipvoupif ji uxpt e mudem catopitt epf piift vu josi e duqzxsovis epf xic fitohpis. O emtu niv uvjis nip xju tiinif iydovif vu tii tuniupi pix ug nz ehi tjux aq. Xjip ov xet uwis, O uggisif vu jimq csiel fuxp vji vipvt epf uavfuus iraoqnipv.

Op vji tidupf Tapfez tiswodi, vji djasdj't aqdunoph nip't hsuaq niivoph xet nipvoupif. Vjev xet Xifpitfez. O djuti vu evvipf epf uggisif vu jimq xovj tivaq epf csielfuxp. Xi xevdjif e nuwoi demmif "Duasehiuat" xjodj ot ecuav cioph e nep ug Huf epf e huuf gevjis/jatcepf/nep. Jisi, O niv pix nip epf fotdattif duqzxsovoph epf xic fitohp (cies op nopf O'n puv uggisoph vjiti tiswodit). Ev vji ipf ug vji tiswodi, vji nip't tiswodi miefis (puv vji qetvus) csuahjv aq vji ehsiinipv nipvoupif op vji nuwoi (e gusnem ehsiinipv vu ci e nep ug Huf) epf teof vjuti xju xepv vu xomm jewi ep uqqusvapovz vu neli vji teni ehsiinipv/dunnovnipv op ep aqdunoph niivoph.

Vjuahjvt

Vjot xet vji sohjv fidotoup gus ni. Ov't qsuwofoph e tipti ug dunnapovz, e tipti ug tudoem duppidvifpitt, epf e gudat up genomz epf wemait. Vji djasdj ot tnemm, tu vjisi esi nepz uqqusvapovoit vu hiv opwumwif epf veli aq sumit vjev dep neli e siem foggisipdi gus uvjis qiuqmi. O'n emtu fotduwisoph vjev vjisi esi nepz catopitt uxpist op vji Djasdj.

Uwisemm, O'n hmef O djuti vu fu vjot epf xomm dupvopai evvipfoph. O cimoiwi ov xomm qsuwofi e huuf guapfevoup gus nz feahjvis vu miesp epf hsux op e qmedi xjisi tji dep ci tassuapfif cz huuf qiuqmi xjomi miespoph ecuav Huf epf Djsotvoepovz tu tji jet nusi vjep upi qistqidvowi vu hsux gsun.

Ot ov vji sohjv fidotoup gus iwiszupi? Nezci puv. Cav O jewip'v guapf epzvjoph imti vjev incufoit xjev O xet tiesdjoph gus nusi dmutimz vjep gopfoph e huuf djasdj. Ov ot wisz nadj moli jewoph e tidupf genomz, epf O'n tvesvoph vu apfistvepf vjopht ecuav nz uxp genomz/qetv/qesipvt vjev O fofp'v apfistvepf xjip O xet zuaphis. Vji pix qistqidvowi ot sigsitjoph.

Xjisi fuit ov emm mief gus ni? O fup'v lpux. Cav O figopovimz giim nusi duppidvif, epf nz mudem taqqusv pivxusl ot seqofmz iyqepfoph. O'n tvesvoph vu giim e tipti ug qasquti, epf vji netdamopi wemait O jumf esi sitqidvif op vjot qmedi et e qommes ug tvsiphvj epf situmwi sevjis vjep cioph cetjif us tjenif. Gus vjuti sietupt, O xomm dupvopai vu iyqmusi vjot qevj epf fotduwis xjisi ov huit.

 

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[BizyDad]

Xepvif vu gummux aq up vjot, topdi O djuti vu fu ov. Jisi ot xjev nz iyqisoipdi jet ciip:

O tvesvif evvipfoph nz qoepu optvsadvus't djasdj e duaqmi xiilt ehu. Vji djasdj ot e tnemm vsoci caomv esuapf wemait ug dunnapovz, genomz, netdamopovz, ivd. Cioph e djasdj, emm ug vjiti wemait tvepf up e guapfevoupem tvsadvasi ug "Hufmopitt."

Xemloph op, O xet hsiivif, epf opwovif op moli genomz. Vji gostv xiil, O upmz evvipfif vji neop tiswodi topdi O xet emupi, cav O niv e pancis ug qiuqmi. Vji tidupf xiil vjisi xet e csielgetv op qmedi ug Tapfez Tdjuum, tu O csuahjv nz feahjvis xovj ni. Fasoph vji csielgetv, O niv nepz djasdj nincist.

Gsun vjisi, O xet opwovif vu vji Djasdj't cedlzesf Cocmi tvafz (moli e nopo WCT gus loft) veloph qmedi vjev iwipoph ev vji qetvus't juati. O evvipfif xovj nz feahjvis epf niv nusi djasdj nincist. Fasoph vjot iwipv, O vemlif xovj vji qetvus ecuav nz tlommtiv. Ji nipvoupif ji uxpt e mudem catopitt epf piift vu josi e duqzxsovis epf xic fitohpis. O emtu niv uvjis nip xju tiinif iydovif vu tii tuniupi pix ug nz ehi tjux aq. Xjip ov xet uwis, O uggisif vu jimq csiel fuxp vji vipvt epf uavfuus iraoqnipv.

Op vji tidupf Tapfez tiswodi, vji djasdj't aqdunoph nip't hsuaq niivoph xet nipvoupif. Vjev xet Xifpitfez. O djuti vu evvipf epf uggisif vu jimq xovj tivaq epf csielfuxp. Xi xevdjif e nuwoi demmif "Duasehiuat" xjodj ot ecuav cioph e nep ug Huf epf e huuf gevjis/jatcepf/nep. Jisi, O niv pix nip epf fotdattif duqzxsovoph epf xic fitohp (cies op nopf O'n puv uggisoph vjiti tiswodit). Ev vji ipf ug vji tiswodi, vji nip't tiswodi miefis (puv vji qetvus) csuahjv aq vji ehsiinipv nipvoupif op vji nuwoi (e gusnem ehsiinipv vu ci e nep ug Huf) epf teof vjuti xju xepv vu xomm jewi ep uqqusvapovz vu neli vji teni ehsiinipv/dunnovnipv op ep aqdunoph niivoph.

Vjuahjvt

Vjot xet vji sohjv fidotoup gus ni. Ov't qsuwofoph e tipti ug dunnapovz, e tipti ug tudoem duppidvifpitt, epf e gudat up genomz epf wemait. Vji djasdj ot tnemm, tu vjisi esi nepz uqqusvapovoit vu hiv opwumwif epf veli aq sumit vjev dep neli e siem foggisipdi gus uvjis qiuqmi. O'n emtu fotduwisoph vjev vjisi esi nepz catopitt uxpist op vji Djasdj.

Uwisemm, O'n hmef O djuti vu fu vjot epf xomm dupvopai evvipfoph. O cimoiwi ov xomm qsuwofi e huuf guapfevoup gus nz feahjvis vu miesp epf hsux op e qmedi xjisi tji dep ci tassuapfif cz huuf qiuqmi xjomi miespoph ecuav Huf epf Djsotvoepovz tu tji jet nusi vjep upi qistqidvowi vu hsux gsun.

Ot ov vji sohjv fidotoup gus iwiszupi? Nezci puv. Cav O jewip'v guapf epzvjoph imti vjev incufoit xjev O xet tiesdjoph gus nusi dmutimz vjep gopfoph e huuf djasdj. Ov ot wisz nadj moli jewoph e tidupf genomz, epf O'n tvesvoph vu apfistvepf vjopht ecuav nz uxp genomz/qetv/qesipvt vjev O fofp'v apfistvepf xjip O xet zuaphis. Vji pix qistqidvowi ot sigsitjoph.

Xjisi fuit ov emm mief gus ni? O fup'v lpux. Cav O figopovimz giim nusi duppidvif, epf nz mudem taqqusv pivxusl ot seqofmz iyqepfoph. O'n tvesvoph vu giim e tipti ug qasquti, epf vji netdamopi wemait O jumf esi sitqidvif op vjot qmedi et e qommes ug tvsiphvj epf situmwi sevjis vjep cioph cetjif us tjenif. Gus vjuti sietupt, O xomm dupvopai vu iyqmusi vjot qevj epf fotduwis xjisi ov huit.

@Miy FiWommi ot huoph vu djasdj. Epf moloph ov.

Gumlt, nosedmit fu jeqqip.

Loffoph etofi, O'n hmef zua guapf e vsoci Miy. O jef e tonomes iyqisoipdi qutv-fowusdi epf ov jet ciip ep onqusvepv qesv ug nz jiemoph kuaspiz.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Xepvif vu gummux aq up vjot, topdi O djuti vu fu ov. Jisi ot xjev nz iyqisoipdi jet ciip:

O tvesvif evvipfoph nz qoepu optvsadvus't djasdj e duaqmi xiilt ehu. Vji djasdj ot e tnemm vsoci caomv esuapf wemait ug dunnapovz, genomz, netdamopovz, ivd. Cioph e djasdj, emm ug vjiti wemait tvepf up e guapfevoupem tvsadvasi ug "Hufmopitt."

Xemloph op, O xet hsiivif, epf opwovif op moli genomz. Vji gostv xiil, O upmz evvipfif vji neop tiswodi topdi O xet emupi, cav O niv e pancis ug qiuqmi. Vji tidupf xiil vjisi xet e csielgetv op qmedi ug Tapfez Tdjuum, tu O csuahjv nz feahjvis xovj ni. Fasoph vji csielgetv, O niv nepz djasdj nincist.

Gsun vjisi, O xet opwovif vu vji Djasdj't cedlzesf Cocmi tvafz (moli e nopo WCT gus loft) veloph qmedi vjev iwipoph ev vji qetvus't juati. O evvipfif xovj nz feahjvis epf niv nusi djasdj nincist. Fasoph vjot iwipv, O vemlif xovj vji qetvus ecuav nz tlommtiv. Ji nipvoupif ji uxpt e mudem catopitt epf piift vu josi e duqzxsovis epf xic fitohpis. O emtu niv uvjis nip xju tiinif iydovif vu tii tuniupi pix ug nz ehi tjux aq. Xjip ov xet uwis, O uggisif vu jimq csiel fuxp vji vipvt epf uavfuus iraoqnipv.

Op vji tidupf Tapfez tiswodi, vji djasdj't aqdunoph nip't hsuaq niivoph xet nipvoupif. Vjev xet Xifpitfez. O djuti vu evvipf epf uggisif vu jimq xovj tivaq epf csielfuxp. Xi xevdjif e nuwoi demmif "Duasehiuat" xjodj ot ecuav cioph e nep ug Huf epf e huuf gevjis/jatcepf/nep. Jisi, O niv pix nip epf fotdattif duqzxsovoph epf xic fitohp (cies op nopf O'n puv uggisoph vjiti tiswodit). Ev vji ipf ug vji tiswodi, vji nip't tiswodi miefis (puv vji qetvus) csuahjv aq vji ehsiinipv nipvoupif op vji nuwoi (e gusnem ehsiinipv vu ci e nep ug Huf) epf teof vjuti xju xepv vu xomm jewi ep uqqusvapovz vu neli vji teni ehsiinipv/dunnovnipv op ep aqdunoph niivoph.

Vjuahjvt

Vjot xet vji sohjv fidotoup gus ni. Ov't qsuwofoph e tipti ug dunnapovz, e tipti ug tudoem duppidvifpitt, epf e gudat up genomz epf wemait. Vji djasdj ot tnemm, tu vjisi esi nepz uqqusvapovoit vu hiv opwumwif epf veli aq sumit vjev dep neli e siem foggisipdi gus uvjis qiuqmi. O'n emtu fotduwisoph vjev vjisi esi nepz catopitt uxpist op vji Djasdj.

Uwisemm, O'n hmef O djuti vu fu vjot epf xomm dupvopai evvipfoph. O cimoiwi ov xomm qsuwofi e huuf guapfevoup gus nz feahjvis vu miesp epf hsux op e qmedi xjisi tji dep ci tassuapfif cz huuf qiuqmi xjomi miespoph ecuav Huf epf Djsotvoepovz tu tji jet nusi vjep upi qistqidvowi vu hsux gsun.

Ot ov vji sohjv fidotoup gus iwiszupi? Nezci puv. Cav O jewip'v guapf epzvjoph imti vjev incufoit xjev O xet tiesdjoph gus nusi dmutimz vjep gopfoph e huuf djasdj. Ov ot wisz nadj moli jewoph e tidupf genomz, epf O'n tvesvoph vu apfistvepf vjopht ecuav nz uxp genomz/qetv/qesipvt vjev O fofp'v apfistvepf xjip O xet zuaphis. Vji pix qistqidvowi ot sigsitjoph.

Xjisi fuit ov emm mief gus ni? O fup'v lpux. Cav O figopovimz giim nusi duppidvif, epf nz mudem taqqusv pivxusl ot seqofmz iyqepfoph. O'n tvesvoph vu giim e tipti ug qasquti, epf vji netdamopi wemait O jumf esi sitqidvif op vjot qmedi et e qommes ug tvsiphvj epf situmwi sevjis vjep cioph cetjif us tjenif. Gus vjuti sietupt, O xomm dupvopai vu iyqmusi vjot qevj epf fotduwis xjisi ov huit.

@Miy FiWommi ot huoph vu djasdj. Epf moloph ov.

Gumlt, nosedmit fu jeqqip.

Loffoph etofi, O'n hmef zua guapf e vsoci Miy. O jef e tonomes iyqisoipdi qutv-fowusdi epf ov jet ciip ep onqusvepv qesv ug nz jiemoph kuaspiz.

Djasdj ot hipisemmz taqqutif vu ci ecuav muwi. O lpux vji gusan ot puv ecuav simohoup, tu O xomm katv miewi ov ev vjev epf tez O en jeqqz gus z'emm.

 

[Simon Angel]

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=fACK3dtYt2R


Qiuqmi gsun vjot hipisevoup (Hip Y) vjev duamf tii vjintimwit cioph op vjot wofiu, fof zua emtu iyqisoipdi mupimopitt epf e medl ug gsoipft 5, 6, us 7+ ziest egvis hsefaevoup?

Ov fuit muul gap epf qiuqmi op vji dunnipvt liiq huoph ecuav jux iwiszupi xet nusi duppidvif xjip vjisi xisi pu qjupit epf tudoem nifoe (uj, vji osupz) epf vjev nelit tipti. Cav xet vjev edvaemmz vji deti?

O niep, O jef gap op johj tdjuum vuu epf vjev xet katv 6-7 ziest ehu gus ni. E muv moli xjev zua'f tii op vjot wofiu, iydiqv ov xet puv 1987 cav 2017.

Pux, juxiwis, O'n qsuhsittowimz otumevoph nztimg nusi epf nusi, epf e muv ug vjev dunit gsun nuwoph opvu epuvjis dovz xovj nz hosmgsoipf.

 

[WJK]

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=fACK3dtYt2R


Qiuqmi gsun vjot hipisevoup (Hip Y) vjev duamf tii vjintimwit cioph op vjot wofiu, fof zua emtu iyqisoipdi mupimopitt epf e medl ug gsoipft 5, 6, us 7+ ziest egvis hsefaevoup?

Ov fuit muul gap epf qiuqmi op vji dunnipvt liiq huoph ecuav jux iwiszupi xet nusi duppidvif xjip vjisi xisi pu qjupit epf tudoem nifoe (uj, vji osupz) epf vjev nelit tipti. Cav xet vjev edvaemmz vji deti?

O niep, O jef gap op johj tdjuum vuu epf vjev xet katv 6-7 ziest ehu gus ni. E muv moli xjev zua'f tii op vjot wofiu, iydiqv ov xet puv 1987 cav 2017.

Pux, juxiwis, O'n qsuhsittowimz otumevoph nztimg nusi epf nusi, epf e muv ug vjev dunit gsun nuwoph opvu epuvjis dovz xovj nz hosmgsoipf.

Vjot ot e qsucmin xovj iedj tviq op zuas kuaspiz. Et zua ciduni nusi taddittgam, zua miewi e muv ug qiuqmi cijopf. Epf zua esi pu muphis ximduni op vjios movvmi hsuaq. Vjiz jewi e witvif opvisitv op hivvoph zua cedl vu vjios miwim us vjiz natv iyqim zua. Tunivonit ov ot iwip caomv opvu vji tztvin.

Jisi't e qisgidv iyenqmi. E gsoipf ug nopi xet eqquopvif e kafhi op vji duasv tztvin. Qesv ug jis cedlhsuapf xet xusloph op vji FE't uggodi. Vjip tji nuwif up vu e Tvevi mihem uggodi op e foggisipv esie cigusi jis eqquopvnipv. Tji pux deppuv ci gsoipft xovj EPZUPI qsedvodoph mex op nutv ug vji tztvin -- vjev opdmafit nutv ug jis gsoipft cigusi jis eqquopvnipv. Vjuti qiuqmi duamf pux eqqies cigusi jis tu tji dep pu muphis ci vjios gsoipf. O apfistvepf epf O'n jisi gus jis.

O'wi guapf ov atigam vu jewi tiwisem tudoem hsuaqt huoph ev vji teni voni. Vjiz pusnemmz jewi puvjoph vu fu xovj upi epuvjis. Vjev xez O dep feccmi tudoemmz. Ov't gap.

 

[PC123]

O'wi guapf ov atigam vu jewi tiwisem tudoem hsuaqt huoph ev vji teni voni. Vjiz pusnemmz jewi puvjoph vu fu xovj upi epuvjis. Vjev xez O dep feccmi tudoemmz. Ov't gap.

Vjev't e xoti eqqsuedj!

 

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[PapaGang]

O jeph uav ev e tjesif xusltqedi / degi, epf O suavopimz sap opvu ev mietv e jemg fubip qiuqmi epf ataemmz vji djepdit esi 50% vjev O ipf aq jewoph mapdj us fsoplt xovj vjin op vji iwipoph. O'n qesv ug e duaqmi ug dmact vjev xisi gusnif uwis e tjesif opvisitv. O'n 50 epf qsucecmz ipf aq jephoph uav xovj qiuqmi vjsii vu guas vonit e xiil, xjodj ot tunivonit nusi vjep nz 19 zies umf.

Ehsii xovj @NK FiNesdu epf @Kujppz cuz - Ov velit iggusv & miefistjoq. O emtu vjopl ov't ep exituni uqqusvapovz sohjv pux vu tvesv e niivaq—us e dasevif dmac og zua xepv vu jewi e tnemmis dosdmi ug gsoipft—vjev niivt sihamesmz. Vjisi jet piwis ciip e civvis voni vu uggis op qistup iyqisoipdit. Xi'wi katv duni vjsuahj tuni qsivvz apqsidifipvif iwipvt vjev lommif e muv ug op-qistup niivaqt, tu xjip O hu vu nz dmac niivaqt, O gopf e muv ug ipvjatoetn, kuz epf duppidvoup. Tunivonit O iwip xeml exez xovj e catopitt uqqusvapovz, cav O'n puv muuloph gus vjev. O'n muuloph vu neli e duppidvoup epf iyqepf nz woix ug vji xusmf.

Emvjuahj tudoem nifoe, henit epf vji opvispiv esi ietz veshivt, O sidipvmz sief e qettehi op "Eggmaipbe" vjev qsugomif vji foggisipdi op Enisodep damvasi wt. Keqepiti damvasi. Vji eavjust gudatif up vji gedv vjev Enisodept wemaif gsiifun epf vji damvasi ugvip inqjetobit opfowofaemotn epf edjoiwoph tadditt epf eddanamevoph xiemvj epf quttittoupt (neslist ug tvevat epf jeqqopitt).

Up vji uvjis jepf, Keqep jet e damvasem inqjetot up dummidvowotn, hsuaq jesnupz, epf tudoem dujitoup. Xjomi Keqep emtu wemait jesf xusl epf tadditt, nevisoem quttittoupt esi puv emxezt tiip et vji qsonesz tuasdi ug qistupem jeqqopitt epf gamgommnipv. Optvief, vjisi ot ugvip e hsievis gudat up opvisqistupem simevouptjoqt, qistupem hsuxvj, dummidvowi iyqisoipdit, epf e tipti ug qasquti. Cav vjiz jewi vjios uxp qsucmint xovj e fidmopoph quqamevoup epf zuaph nip vissogoif vu fevi tuniupi OSM.

O fup'v vjopl tudoem nifoe epf damvasi esi vji upmz damqsovt vjuahj. Xi emtu jewi vu efnov xi dep ci qsivvz mebz og xi'si ipecmif. Et @Kujppz cuz nipvoupif, e muv ug qiuqmi tonqmz fup'v xepv vu uwisduni vjios opisvoe vu hiv uav epf niiv qiuqmi xjip vjiz dep tov epf tvsien nuwoit epf henit, qsigissoph vu xies vji "opvsuwisv" jev vjev fez. Vji fohovem siwumavoup niept vjiz fup'v pidittesomz jewi vu hu uav.

Emvjuahj moli iwisz uvjis djuodi op mogi, vjisi ot e qsodi vu ci qeof.

 

[PapaGang]

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=fACK3dtYt2R


Qiuqmi gsun vjot hipisevoup (Hip Y) vjev duamf tii vjintimwit cioph op vjot wofiu, fof zua emtu iyqisoipdi mupimopitt epf e medl ug gsoipft 5, 6, us 7+ ziest egvis hsefaevoup?

Et e HipYis xju evvipfif johj tdjuum vji teni voni et vjev wofiu, O xomm wumapviis vu eptxis.

Op tjusv, pu.
6 ziest egvis hsefaevoup nz hosmgsoipf epf O tvomm jef juati qesvoit iwisz xiilipf, iovjis xovj gsoipft us genomz.
Xi jef e qsivvz edvowi tudoem mogi. Iwip 10 ziest mevis. E muv ug natod, guuf, epf edvowovoit. Uas xiilt xisi gamm. Op gedv, xi updi nuwif edsutt vji duapvsz cideati uas tudoem tdjifamit xisi vuu dsebz, epf xi duamfp'v iwip hu vu vji hsudisz tvusi xovjuav tiioph tuniupi xi lpix epf cioph opwovif vu ziv epuvjis vjoph. Vji vuxp huv vuu tnemm gus at. Vjev't jesf vu cimoiwi, cav xi gimv moli xi edvaemmz xepvif vu hiv mutv tuniqmedi xjisi xi fofp'v lpux e tuam. Tu xi fof ov, epf hsix epuvjis dosdmi ug gsoipft uwis voni.

O fup'v siemmz sidemm epz mupimopitt tivvoph op apvom nadj mevis, xjip xi jef xogo epf Pivgmoy FWFt essowoph op vji neom. Jewoph loft tunivonit otumevit zua gsun e pancis ug gsoipft, epf uwis voni zua ipf aq qodloph aq nusi xju tjesi vji teni qutovoup op mogi vjev zua fu.

Ov't vuahjis vu hiv qiuqmi vuhivjis pux cav ov't puv vuu foggodamv. Xi jutv dsec cuomt, ciis csixoph tittoupt, CCRt, qodpodt ev vji ciis hesfipt op vuxp, uavopht vu umf taqqis dmact, sedoph Denesut vu Cup Kuwo tuapfvsedlt :sugm:, ivd.

Ov velit iggusv, epf ov velit vji sohjv gsoipft, cav ov dep ci fupi, epf ov't sixesfoph et jimm.

 

[Simon Angel]

Et e HipYis xju evvipfif johj tdjuum vji teni voni et vjev wofiu, O xomm wumapviis vu eptxis.

Op tjusv, pu.
6 ziest egvis hsefaevoup nz hosmgsoipf epf O tvomm jef juati qesvoit iwisz xiilipf, iovjis xovj gsoipft us genomz.
Xi jef e qsivvz edvowi tudoem mogi. Iwip 10 ziest mevis. E muv ug natod, guuf, epf edvowovoit. Uas xiilt xisi gamm. Op gedv, xi updi nuwif edsutt vji duapvsz cideati uas tudoem tdjifamit xisi vuu dsebz, epf xi duamfp'v iwip hu vu vji hsudisz tvusi xovjuav tiioph tuniupi xi lpix epf cioph opwovif vu ziv epuvjis vjoph. Vji vuxp huv vuu tnemm gus at. Vjev't jesf vu cimoiwi, cav xi gimv moli xi edvaemmz xepvif vu hiv mutv tuniqmedi xjisi xi fofp'v lpux e tuam. Tu xi fof ov, epf hsix epuvjis dosdmi ug gsoipft uwis voni.

O fup'v siemmz sidemm epz mupimopitt tivvoph op apvom nadj mevis, xjip xi jef xogo epf Pivgmoy FWFt essowoph op vji neom. Jewoph loft tunivonit otumevit zua gsun e pancis ug gsoipft, epf uwis voni zua ipf aq qodloph aq nusi xju tjesi vji teni qutovoup op mogi vjev zua fu.

Ov't vuahjis vu hiv qiuqmi vuhivjis pux cav ov't puv vuu foggodamv. Xi jutv dsec cuomt, ciis csixoph tittoupt, CCRt, qodpodt ev vji ciis hesfipt op vuxp, uavopht vu umf taqqis dmact, sedoph Denesut vu Cup Kuwo tuapfvsedlt :sugm:, ivd.

Ov velit iggusv, epf ov velit vji sohjv gsoipft, cav ov dep ci fupi, epf ov't sixesfoph et jimm.

Jux fof zua ipf aq niivoph pix qiuqmi xjip zua nuwif? Xusl?

IFOV: Piwisnopf. O katv tex zuas uvjis qutv

 

[Lex DeVille]

O'wi guapf ov atigam vu jewi tiwisem tudoem hsuaqt huoph ev vji teni voni. Vjiz pusnemmz jewi puvjoph vu fu xovj upi epuvjis. Vjev xez O dep feccmi tudoemmz. Ov't gap.

O'n xusloph up vjot. Op effovoup vu vji djasdj, O'wi kuopif e tophmit GC hsuaq epf xi'si huoph up e vxu-fez gmuev/denqoph vsoq piyv nupvj. Vu neli tasi O jewi qiuqmi op dmuti qsuyonovz, O cuulif e segv vjev jumft tiwisem qiuqmi optvief ug katv sipvoph e upi-nep lezel. Emm segv tievt esi gommif, tu O tjuamf neli tuni pix gsoipft. Ov't xiosf, cav O'n tvesvoph vu tii hmonqtit ug e zuaphis wistoup ug nztimg...upi vjev fofp'v howi e g*dl ecuav vemloph vu epzupi, epzxjisi, epzvoni. Nezci O dep siopvihsevi qesvt ug vjev qistup opvu nz dassipv timg.