How to respond - "Money doesn't buy happiness."

[Rickson9]

How exactly do you respond to someone who says money doesn't buy happiness?

"According to scientific research re: hedonic treadmilll that is conditionally true. What's your point?"

 

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[The-J]

"Tell me about that vacation you had last summer. ...mhm, that sounds awesome. Wouldn't you wanna live there?"

To me, the relationship between money and happiness is more complicated than a simple linear or logarithmic function.

Maslow's hierarchy seems to be highly relevant. But if money buys happiness, why are there unhappy rich people? Do they simply not know where to shop?

 

[The-J]

Now that I think about it more and more (the past few days I've been thinking about my own happiness, my mental stability, my financial situation, my goals in life, etc been a really reflective past few days for me), I have come to the conclusion that this is a really stupid thing to argue about.

If money and the things it can buy makes you happy, then they make you happy. If they don't, then they don't.

Happiness is a complicated concept to understand yet an easy one to feel, and every single person on this earth that understands the very concept of happiness has a different interpretation of it. Some people correlate it to happy memories, some people correlate it to happy feelings, and some people correlate it to things and actions that inspire them, among many other things.

Just be happy and don't let anyone tell you how you should be happy (unless you are happy by hurting people, then it's a problem).

 

[stranger]

Money is a freedom in our not free world.

 

[The-J]

You know you are jealous. Business is my life. I love making money and enjoying myself while doing it. That picture is more about what is behind the cigar.

I'll be jealous of you in the islands, but cigars and golf are not my thing.

 

[OzGrinder]

You might be surprised to find out that some people (gasp) even think that MJ has been wrong once or twice!

Never! Blasphemy!

 

[Ãœbertreffen]

Guy 1: "Money doesn't buy happiness..."
Guy 2: "...Oh yeah, I'll show you happiness!"


Topics alike are just politics. In the end it's just a dick swinging contest.

I'm not sure why everyone is so worried about everyone else when most don't even have their own two feet planted.

Your best bet is to just hand these people MJ's book and refer them to the section where it clearly defines the title of this thread. Let them decide what it means or sit back and listen as you never know what golden nuggets might come out of it.

Happy trails.



- Devin

 

[theag]

When Im building and landscaping golf courses, I love to buy beautiful trees. Sometimes, though, those trees arent in nurseries; sometimes they are in a persons backyard. I'll be driving down the highway, see a great tree, and ask my limo driver to pull over. I'll knock on the door. Usually, a woman will answer the door, and Ill say, "Hi, lady. I'd love to buy your tree." She'll say, "Oh my god! Its Donald Trump! I cant believe this is happening!" And then I'll tell here that I'm building a golf course nearby, like the one I'm building in Los Angeles right along the Pacific Ocean. Usually, I'll get the tree. I've bought a lot of great trees that way, and those trees can be found all over the country at my golf courses. Money can't buy happiness, but it sure as hell can buy some great trees.

- Donald Trump

 

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[Deleted50669]

They are right. Money is not happiness.

Many people are happy without money. Go to the slums of India. People are quite happy there, because of the community sense.

What money buys is DIGNITY. You do not have to bend your will to someone else's for money.

Another argument is: 'Money is the most important thing for anything it can buy.'

Money doesn't buy happiness, but it's damn good at preventing misery.

 

[hobokook]

How exactly do you respond to someone who says money doesn't buy happiness?

I know that after making a certain amount, money can't make you any more happy...but are you really saying that someone making $30k per year is just as happy as someone making $3 million per year?

 

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[1PercentStreet]

Money doesn't buy happiness and is the root of all evil.

I'm an evil unhappy guy!

 

[OzGrinder]

tell them you have proof they are wrong:
Fluoxetine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This forum is missing a 'beating a dead horse' emoticon

 

[JayKim]

:beatdeadhorse5:

This forum is missing a 'beating a dead horse' emoticon

How exactly do you respond to someone who says money doesn't buy happiness?

I know that after making a certain amount, money can't make you any more happy...but are you really saying that someone making $30k per year is just as happy as someone making $3 million per year?

https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/mindset-motivation-choices/24991-money-cant-buy-happiness.html

 

[Steve37]

I don't.

You are wasting your time.

This.

 

[santa]

Money is a medium of exchange.

The greater medium of exchange resource you have, the greater CHOICE you have.

 

[Kak]

im always curious about how they know...


so I ask, "how do you know?"



Z

This is the best one yet!

What about the root of all evil? It is kind of like the gun control arguments, if guns people spoons make Rosie Odonnel fat.

 

[CommonCents]

If they have to ask in the first place, they've already shown they won't understand the answer.

 

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[johnp]

My aunt told me that money doesn't buy happiness as she was throwing back a glass of wine at a family event. She makes probably 400K per year. My uncle is retired at age 50 something as a result of stocks and his business and she could quit her job at any moment.

I said it "buy happiness by buying freedom. Look at you guys." That's all i had to say to shut her up. And she and my uncle have never talked to me again. Sometimes its better to just keep your mouth shut I guess

 

[Mike39]

This! (language) Skip to 2:12

[video=youtube;w4Pu_JuPILw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4Pu_JuPILw&t=2m24s[/video]

Great movie, epic speach.

 

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[kahem89]

I agree that money doesn't buy you happiness directly, you can be unhappy with money. I just think its the wrong question.

The real question is can you be happy without freedom? I know I cant. And... that's exactly what money will get you, Freedom And choices

As a general rule. F*ck those discussions, its a waste of time. If they want to work for you in the future, let them

 

[theBiz]

Jordan is a tool. He was a scammer thats all. He stole money from people.. and trust me i will still give a scammer the credit if they deserve it but he doesent. He got out of jail and tried to open two businesses which failed miserably....hmm what happened to the "principles" this guru is selling everyone now? Its easy to be good at sales when you lie to people in order to get people sending checks in then steal their money. Joke, dont even listen to that guy or anything he says, he had a bunch of drug addicts calling people 300x each per day lying to get their money then they stole it and put it into one of their fake stocks, not hard to do... you've got to be a real scumbag with some big ba***, or just rat everyone out when you get caught like he did.

 

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[AlasdairM]

The question to ask yourself is, if money buys happiness, then how come there are miserable rich people and happy poor people (go to Jamaica some time)? Money effectively magnifies your basic personality traits.

If you're insecure with little money, you'll be even more so with lots of money. Likewise, if you're basically a happy person, more money will make you happier (up to a point).

 

[mags]

Respond with "Whoever said money can't buy happiness did not know where to shop!"

 

[Texan]

Money may not make you happy but it sure does put a smile on your face when you're sad!

My father-in-law used to say that.

 

[MooreMillions]

How exactly do you respond to someone who says money doesn't buy happiness?
You are absolutely right, it makes life a whole lot easier.

I mean, I understand rich people when they say, "I'd rather cry in the back seat of a Rolls Royce, then smile in the front seat of a Honda".

Money does not affect or mean the same thing to everybody and that's a good thing.

I know that after making a certain amount, money can't make you any more happy...but are you really saying that someone making $30k per year is just as happy as someone making $3 million per year?

Yes and no. Depends on who is making the 30 and who is making the 3 mil.

 

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[BrucetonGuy]

MJ explained it all with his response.

Here is how I look at it:

As many of you agree, there are two important factors to look at...money and time. In my situation, my wife and I bought an old farm house (built in 1900) five years ago. It is a beautiful Victorian style house that sits on about half an acre. The house needs a lot of updates and renovations which I have been working on for the past five years. Whenever someone asks me what's taking so long to finish the house, I say "There are two factors, time and money. Often they don't coincide." Meaning that when I have TIME to work on the projects, (TIME away from the 9-5) I don't have the money to do the projects. When I have the MONEY to do the projects, I can't seem to find the TIME due to work schedule, kids after-school activities, etc.

For me, having money would buy my happiness because it brings together the two factors of TIME AND MONEY. Money buys my time because I no longer have to trade-in the time at my job for money. I will have TIME and MONEY to be able to complete the projects that I have to finish on the house or whatever else I elect to do with my time.

As MJ, mentioned, with MONEY you give yourself TIME which provides the HAPPINESS. If you want to travel, you can. If you want to play softball 3 times a week, you can. If you want to lay around the house in your pajama's playing Playstation or XBOX, you can. As Vigilante once stated..."Because I Can"

 

[The-J]

Money bought me this. Im pretty damn happy right now. Just saying.

Cigars? Golf? Networking? My god, you're the most boring 22/23 year old ever.

 

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[dnice]

I agree Jordan was a scammer but the video from Boiler Room is exactly how Jordan spoke to his employees based on his book. To keep on topic, it was obvious that money did not buy him happiness and he had a lot of it. He spent it on hookers, drugs and material things and nothing made him happy. So in his case money did not make him happy.

Jordan is a tool. He was a scammer thats all. He stole money from people.. and trust me i will still give a scammer the credit if they deserve it but he doesent. He got out of jail and tried to open two businesses which failed miserably....hmm what happened to the "principles" this guru is selling everyone now? Its easy to be good at sales when you lie to people in order to get people sending checks in then steal their money. Joke, dont even listen to that guy or anything he says, he had a bunch of drug addicts calling people 300x each per day lying to get their money then they stole it and put it into one of their fake stocks, not hard to do... you've got to be a real scumbag with some big ba***, or just rat everyone out when you get caught like he did.

 

[AndrewS]

money allows you freedom, it is your choice how you use that freedom.

 

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[theBiz]

this thread needs to die haha,

Money buys freedom to do what you want, when you want it.

If you value freedom, money is important.
If you do not value freedom, money is not important.

Done.