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Reflections on 30 Years of Life

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So, I'm about to cross the 30-year-old threshold, which has prompted me to reflect on life so far, and I'll share my lessons because hopefully some of you may benefit from them and gain a bit more clarity on your own challenges.

By and large, I'll break down life in 4 eras, each corresponding to approximately 10 years of life.

0-10 Years Old – Childhood – Gaining Physical Skills & Learning The Basics

I doubt anyone on this forum is in this age bracket. But if you are, then the keys are to get general physical skills and learn the basics of living in the world. Get familiar with your emotional needs, if possible live in a loving environment. Not things you can have much control over.

But these things are very important. They will give you emotional stability and self-control that you will otherwise lack. If you look at the beggar you see on the street, you're likely looking at someone who failed this stage AND didn't have other people to support them afterwards. Hence they ended up as a leaf in the wind.

The result of that is terrible: powerlessness.

I was lucky to have had a stable family to be born into who could take care of me and made sure I got the nurturing that was necessary. Not everything was perfect, I doubt it is for anyone, but by and large I learned the necessary physical skills and the basics of how the world works.

Being born in a dog-eat-dog environment though, I did also gain some negative attitudes which affected me both positively and negatively. On the one hand, it made me very competitive. On the other, it decreased my sense of self-esteem and trust.

The big "mistake" to avoid is not being parented properly.

10-20 Years Old – Adolescence – Gaining General Life Skills & Self-Reliance


Math, science, physics, literature.

Dealing with conflict.

Socializing.

Learning to do some things by yourself and be responsible for them.

All general life skills which you have to learn while you're a teen.

Here you have a lot more ability to have control over your life. And you should exercise it. Read widely.

Personally I found philosophy of high interest in this period. I consumed a lot of it. Same for religion.

The big mistake to avoid is not learning new things.

20-30 Years Old – Adulthood – Gaining Specialist/Technical Skills


The key here is to gain specialist skills. Ideally in a domain where demand is rapidly growing and expanding, if your goal is to get rich. Computers. Marketing. Sales. AI. Software. Internet.

Forget the boring professions: lawyer, doctor, blah blah. You ain't gonna get rich there.

How you get those skills is less important, and more a function of your personality and character.

For myself, I never held a job, so I gained the skills by freelancing and building 2 businesses. And reading.

A job means that you get paid to be taught. If you go down this route, make sure you get solid mentors. Focus on building your network and gaining specialist skills. Make yourself as useful as possible to those in charge of you. Take initiative, come up with new ways to help them achieve their goals.

Reading means that you invest your time to learn by yourself.

Freelancing also means you're teaching yourself.

Obviously getting a job will appeal more to extroverts, less to introverts who would prefer reading, self-study, freelancing.

In all cases, even when getting a job, your goal isn't so much the money you can make immediately, but the specialist skills you'll gain.

If you do well at this stage of your life, you'll NEVER be broke.

Look at my case – I can do ANYTHING that involves the internet and building a business via the internet. That means that anyone who's trying to build an online business of any kind, I can help. Even by getting a job.

So I have the very real certainty that I'll never be out of money. My skill is in high demand, few people are great at it, and therefore whatever happens, even if my business fails, I'll always be able to hop on Upwork and make $5-10K/mo coasting through life.

The big mistake to avoid is being overly focused on money.

30-40 Years Old – Maturity – Building Relationships


While in my 20s I didn't give a damn about relationships. I was very lucky with my first agency to have had a solid project manager who put up with me, and we built the team to 18 people.

I've maintained some good relationships, but also soured many others with my attitude, anger management, and short-sighted selfishness. I'll give you just one example from when I was 19.

I got contracted by a businessman to write some articles. I was getting paid per word. He became sort of a mentor to me, also coaching me on many of the copywriting skills that I've used since then to secure some very big clients.

And because I was getting paid per word, a devilish idea occured to me. What if instead of writing 1,500 words I write 2,000, and make the article much much better than the 1,500 word article would be, so there can be no complaint? And then ask to be paid for 2,000? So I did that. Once it worked. Twice it worked. Three times, it worked. But then... I stopped getting any business from that guy. He simply stopped contacting me. Never said anything to me.

I see this same behavior nowadays from many young people whom I hire. They just care about the money. And I understand how infuriating it is for you as the owner. But back then I didn't. I didn't understand about relationships or their value. I thought clients were just leaving because that's how business is. It was only when I was 23 and I had the chance to shoulder others and see the relationships they were building with clients that I learned to behave differently.

So as my current agency has grown, I've invested a lot more in the people that I work with. Even taking losses for them, both clients and employees in order to invest in the relationship. I've grown to depend a lot more than ever before on others to manage my business and to get results. Relationships finally became important.

And I expect this tendency to only get stronger in the next 10 years. I've learned to adjust to different working speeds, because not everyone can deliver results as fast as I can. I've learned to manage my emotions better when dealing with people. But there's still a lot left to learn.

Overall Reflections

If you miss the outcome in any era of life, it will be very hard to make up for it. I know people who have never learned the basics of life in their first 10 years. As a result, they are grown-up children, ruled entirely by their emotions in whatever they do, extremely fragile and dependent on others, exactly like children. And if others don't support them, they can end up as beggars or worse.

Or people who have never learned general level skills or self-reliance... and hence they themselves (much less others) can't count on them. They can be 40 years old, and unable to fend for themselves. Or they can be 40 years old and unable to get a job above McDonald's.

Or people who for whatever reason have never gained specialist skills in their 20s. Very often, they will never gain them, and if whatever opportunity kept them afloat until then dries up, they'll have a very hard time.

People can't really skip stages. Some people happen to go through a stage faster or get started earlier.

Elon Musk. Bill Gates. Mark Zuckerberg.

All these guys learned a technical skill while they were teens. Meaning they accomplished the adulthood stage in their teens. Hence they could progress much faster.

Some guys can skip a stage entirely. Say their father is the CEO, and they get promoted to C-level in a relatively big company. I have many such friends. They have 0 technical skills, essentially skipping the Adulthood stage and jumping straight to maturity.

From experience, they always have problems. They tend to not be respected by the men they lead. Their lack of technical knowledge tends to be exploited by those whom they manage. They don't understand the complexities of delivering technical results. All this remains a severe handicap for them, usually for their entire lives.

So it's important to make sure you DO go through the stages, to live a good life.
 
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Interesting post. It sounds to me like you think that you are older than you actually are.

I would expect that you'll change a lot over the next ten years, unless you work really hard to keep everything in your life the same, which would likely be a waste.
 

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So, I'm about to cross the 30-year-old threshold, which has prompted me to reflect on life so far, and I'll share my lessons because hopefully some of you may benefit from them and gain a bit more clarity on your own challenges.

By and large, I'll break down life in 4 eras, each corresponding to approximately 10 years of life.

0-10 Years Old – Childhood – Gaining Physical Skills & Learning The Basics

I doubt anyone on this forum is in this age bracket. But if you are, then the keys are to get general physical skills and learn the basics of living in the world. Get familiar with your emotional needs, if possible live in a loving environment. Not things you can have much control over.

But these things are very important. They will give you emotional stability and self-control that you will otherwise lack. If you look at the beggar you see on the street, you're likely looking at someone who failed this stage AND didn't have other people to support them afterwards. Hence they ended up as a leaf in the wind.

The result of that is terrible: powerlessness.

I was lucky to have had a stable family to be born into who could take care of me and made sure I got the nurturing that was necessary. Not everything was perfect, I doubt it is for anyone, but by and large I learned the necessary physical skills and the basics of how the world works.

Being born in a dog-eat-dog environment though, I did also gain some negative attitudes which affected me both positively and negatively. On the one hand, it made me very competitive. On the other, it decreased my sense of self-esteem and trust.

The big "mistake" to avoid is not being parented properly.

10-20 Years Old – Adolescence – Gaining General Life Skills & Self-Reliance


Math, science, physics, literature.

Dealing with conflict.

Socializing.

Learning to do some things by yourself and be responsible for them.

All general life skills which you have to learn while you're a teen.

Here you have a lot more ability to have control over your life. And you should exercise it. Read widely.

Personally I found philosophy of high interest in this period. I consumed a lot of it. Same for religion.

The big mistake to avoid is not learning new things.

20-30 Years Old – Adulthood – Gaining Specialist/Technical Skills


The key here is to gain specialist skills. Ideally in a domain where demand is rapidly growing and expanding, if your goal is to get rich. Computers. Marketing. Sales. AI. Software. Internet.

Forget the boring professions: lawyer, doctor, blah blah. You ain't gonna get rich there.

How you get those skills is less important, and more a function of your personality and character.

For myself, I never held a job, so I gained the skills by freelancing and building 2 businesses. And reading.

A job means that you get paid to be taught. If you go down this route, make sure you get solid mentors. Focus on building your network and gaining specialist skills. Make yourself as useful as possible to those in charge of you. Take initiative, come up with new ways to help them achieve their goals.

Reading means that you invest your time to learn by yourself.

Freelancing also means you're teaching yourself.

Obviously getting a job will appeal more to extroverts, less to introverts who would prefer reading, self-study, freelancing.

In all cases, even when getting a job, your goal isn't so much the money you can make immediately, but the specialist skills you'll gain.

If you do well at this stage of your life, you'll NEVER be broke.

Look at my case – I can do ANYTHING that involves the internet and building a business via the internet. That means that anyone who's trying to build an online business of any kind, I can help. Even by getting a job.

So I have the very real certainty that I'll never be out of money. My skill is in high demand, few people are great at it, and therefore whatever happens, even if my business fails, I'll always be able to hop on Upwork and make $5-10K/mo coasting through life.

The big mistake to avoid is being overly focused on money.

30-40 Years Old – Maturity – Building Relationships


While in my 20s I didn't give a damn about relationships. I was very lucky with my first agency to have had a solid project manager who put up with me, and we built the team to 18 people.

I've maintained some good relationships, but also soured many others with my attitude, anger management, and short-sighted selfishness. I'll give you just one example from when I was 19.

I got contracted by a businessman to write some articles. I was getting paid per word. He became sort of a mentor to me, also coaching me on many of the copywriting skills that I've used since then to secure some very big clients.

And because I was getting paid per word, a devilish idea occured to me. What if instead of writing 1,500 words I write 2,000, and make the article much much better than the 1,500 word article would be, so there can be no complaint? And then ask to be paid for 2,000? So I did that. Once it worked. Twice it worked. Three times, it worked. But then... I stopped getting any business from that guy. He simply stopped contacting me. Never said anything to me.

I see this same behavior nowadays from many young people whom I hire. They just care about the money. And I understand how infuriating it is for you as the owner. But back then I didn't. I didn't understand about relationships or their value. I thought clients were just leaving because that's how business is. It was only when I was 23 and I had the chance to shoulder others and see the relationships they were building with clients that I learned to behave differently.

So as my current agency has grown, I've invested a lot more in the people that I work with. Even taking losses for them, both clients and employees in order to invest in the relationship. I've grown to depend a lot more than ever before on others to manage my business and to get results. Relationships finally became important.

And I expect this tendency to only get stronger in the next 10 years. I've learned to adjust to different working speeds, because not everyone can deliver results as fast as I can. I've learned to manage my emotions better when dealing with people. But there's still a lot left to learn.

Overall Reflections

If you miss the outcome in any era of life, it will be very hard to make up for it. I know people who have never learned the basics of life in their first 10 years. As a result, they are grown-up children, ruled entirely by their emotions in whatever they do, extremely fragile and dependent on others, exactly like children. And if others don't support them, they can end up as beggars or worse.

Or people who have never learned general level skills or self-reliance... and hence they themselves (much less others) can't count on them. They can be 40 years old, and unable to fend for themselves. Or they can be 40 years old and unable to get a job above McDonald's.

Or people who for whatever reason have never gained specialist skills in their 20s. Very often, they will never gain them, and if whatever opportunity kept them afloat until then dries up, they'll have a very hard time.

People can't really skip stages. Some people happen to go through a stage faster or get started earlier.

Elon Musk. Bill Gates. Mark Zuckerberg.

All these guys learned a technical skill while they were teens. Meaning they accomplished the adulthood stage in their teens. Hence they could progress much faster.

Some guys can skip a stage entirely. Say their father is the CEO, and they get promoted to C-level in a relatively big company. I have many such friends. They have 0 technical skills, essentially skipping the Adulthood stage and jumping straight to maturity.

From experience, they always have problems. They tend to not be respected by the men they lead. Their lack of technical knowledge tends to be exploited by those whom they manage. They don't understand the complexities of delivering technical results. All this remains a severe handicap for them, usually for their entire lives.

So it's important to make sure you DO go through the stages, to live a good life.
You really are an interesting person.

This is a great post and shows a lot of experience in life and you still manage to come across as younger than you really are imo.

This gave me some insight and perspective on what I am doing and where I am so thanks for sharing.
 

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So, I'm about to cross the 30-year-old threshold, which has prompted me to reflect on life so far, and I'll share my lessons because hopefully some of you may benefit from them and gain a bit more clarity on your own challenges.

By and large, I'll break down life in 4 eras, each corresponding to approximately 10 years of life.

0-10 Years Old – Childhood – Gaining Physical Skills & Learning The Basics

I doubt anyone on this forum is in this age bracket. But if you are, then the keys are to get general physical skills and learn the basics of living in the world. Get familiar with your emotional needs, if possible live in a loving environment. Not things you can have much control over.

But these things are very important. They will give you emotional stability and self-control that you will otherwise lack. If you look at the beggar you see on the street, you're likely looking at someone who failed this stage AND didn't have other people to support them afterwards. Hence they ended up as a leaf in the wind.

The result of that is terrible: powerlessness.

I was lucky to have had a stable family to be born into who could take care of me and made sure I got the nurturing that was necessary. Not everything was perfect, I doubt it is for anyone, but by and large I learned the necessary physical skills and the basics of how the world works.

Being born in a dog-eat-dog environment though, I did also gain some negative attitudes which affected me both positively and negatively. On the one hand, it made me very competitive. On the other, it decreased my sense of self-esteem and trust.

The big "mistake" to avoid is not being parented properly.

10-20 Years Old – Adolescence – Gaining General Life Skills & Self-Reliance


Math, science, physics, literature.

Dealing with conflict.

Socializing.

Learning to do some things by yourself and be responsible for them.

All general life skills which you have to learn while you're a teen.

Here you have a lot more ability to have control over your life. And you should exercise it. Read widely.

Personally I found philosophy of high interest in this period. I consumed a lot of it. Same for religion.

The big mistake to avoid is not learning new things.

20-30 Years Old – Adulthood – Gaining Specialist/Technical Skills


The key here is to gain specialist skills. Ideally in a domain where demand is rapidly growing and expanding, if your goal is to get rich. Computers. Marketing. Sales. AI. Software. Internet.

Forget the boring professions: lawyer, doctor, blah blah. You ain't gonna get rich there.

How you get those skills is less important, and more a function of your personality and character.

For myself, I never held a job, so I gained the skills by freelancing and building 2 businesses. And reading.

A job means that you get paid to be taught. If you go down this route, make sure you get solid mentors. Focus on building your network and gaining specialist skills. Make yourself as useful as possible to those in charge of you. Take initiative, come up with new ways to help them achieve their goals.

Reading means that you invest your time to learn by yourself.

Freelancing also means you're teaching yourself.

Obviously getting a job will appeal more to extroverts, less to introverts who would prefer reading, self-study, freelancing.

In all cases, even when getting a job, your goal isn't so much the money you can make immediately, but the specialist skills you'll gain.

If you do well at this stage of your life, you'll NEVER be broke.

Look at my case – I can do ANYTHING that involves the internet and building a business via the internet. That means that anyone who's trying to build an online business of any kind, I can help. Even by getting a job.

So I have the very real certainty that I'll never be out of money. My skill is in high demand, few people are great at it, and therefore whatever happens, even if my business fails, I'll always be able to hop on Upwork and make $5-10K/mo coasting through life.

The big mistake to avoid is being overly focused on money.

30-40 Years Old – Maturity – Building Relationships


While in my 20s I didn't give a damn about relationships. I was very lucky with my first agency to have had a solid project manager who put up with me, and we built the team to 18 people.

I've maintained some good relationships, but also soured many others with my attitude, anger management, and short-sighted selfishness. I'll give you just one example from when I was 19.

I got contracted by a businessman to write some articles. I was getting paid per word. He became sort of a mentor to me, also coaching me on many of the copywriting skills that I've used since then to secure some very big clients.

And because I was getting paid per word, a devilish idea occured to me. What if instead of writing 1,500 words I write 2,000, and make the article much much better than the 1,500 word article would be, so there can be no complaint? And then ask to be paid for 2,000? So I did that. Once it worked. Twice it worked. Three times, it worked. But then... I stopped getting any business from that guy. He simply stopped contacting me. Never said anything to me.

I see this same behavior nowadays from many young people whom I hire. They just care about the money. And I understand how infuriating it is for you as the owner. But back then I didn't. I didn't understand about relationships or their value. I thought clients were just leaving because that's how business is. It was only when I was 23 and I had the chance to shoulder others and see the relationships they were building with clients that I learned to behave differently.

So as my current agency has grown, I've invested a lot more in the people that I work with. Even taking losses for them, both clients and employees in order to invest in the relationship. I've grown to depend a lot more than ever before on others to manage my business and to get results. Relationships finally became important.

And I expect this tendency to only get stronger in the next 10 years. I've learned to adjust to different working speeds, because not everyone can deliver results as fast as I can. I've learned to manage my emotions better when dealing with people. But there's still a lot left to learn.

Overall Reflections

If you miss the outcome in any era of life, it will be very hard to make up for it. I know people who have never learned the basics of life in their first 10 years. As a result, they are grown-up children, ruled entirely by their emotions in whatever they do, extremely fragile and dependent on others, exactly like children. And if others don't support them, they can end up as beggars or worse.

Or people who have never learned general level skills or self-reliance... and hence they themselves (much less others) can't count on them. They can be 40 years old, and unable to fend for themselves. Or they can be 40 years old and unable to get a job above McDonald's.

Or people who for whatever reason have never gained specialist skills in their 20s. Very often, they will never gain them, and if whatever opportunity kept them afloat until then dries up, they'll have a very hard time.

People can't really skip stages. Some people happen to go through a stage faster or get started earlier.

Elon Musk. Bill Gates. Mark Zuckerberg.

All these guys learned a technical skill while they were teens. Meaning they accomplished the adulthood stage in their teens. Hence they could progress much faster.

Some guys can skip a stage entirely. Say their father is the CEO, and they get promoted to C-level in a relatively big company. I have many such friends. They have 0 technical skills, essentially skipping the Adulthood stage and jumping straight to maturity.

From experience, they always have problems. They tend to not be respected by the men they lead. Their lack of technical knowledge tends to be exploited by those whom they manage. They don't understand the complexities of delivering technical results. All this remains a severe handicap for them, usually for their entire lives.

So it's important to make sure you DO go through the stages, to live a good life.
Interesting post. Shows your insights on your progression throughout life.

Seems like the post you've made seems to be about learning skills that are in demand and growing your relationships. For a 15yr old kid like me, looks like I should be learning something new everyday and learn to develop some skills that are in demand right now(eg copywriting, using the internet, using AI, and other skills that idk yet).

Thank you for such an interesting post, seems like focusing on value and how you can be more useful to the world will put you in the right direction rather than chasing money. Chase experience and lessons not just money?
 
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When do we start DM’ing you Happy Birthday? Congratulations on this annual reminder of your mortality! It’s all downhill from here! Etc. :)

Jokes aside, this was a fun read, quite a few golden nuggets in there. Thanks for taking the time and writing it out.

The biggest “One Thing” we can do to help ourselves in life is take that 10 year perspective and at least try to imagine what it’ll be like. Then write it out, reflect, adjust and keep going. You just did that and I hope readers take away this as a lesson on how to become successful - first, it’s to THINK on “paper”.

Your views and plans will change, that’s a guarantee. I can’t believe you are only 30! Post another one at 40 and you’ll be surprised how much will change. But that’s the point, by having goal posts that are far enough out, we have the clarity of direction. So many people on this forum get hyper excited about becoming rich, they miss the process or confuse it for the event! That’s how people prematurely quick school, jobs, business ventures - everything.

Entrepreneurship is a rollercoaster! With years we get better at riding them. But if your business is growing, if YOU are growing, so will the size of that roller coaster. The highs will get higher, the lows will get lower.
 

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Seems like the post you've made seems to be about learning skills that are in demand and growing your relationships. For a 15yr old kid like me, looks like I should be learning something new everyday and learn to develop some skills that are in demand right now(eg copywriting, using the internet, using AI, and other skills that idk yet).

Thank you for such an interesting post, seems like focusing on value and how you can be more useful to the world will put you in the right direction rather than chasing money. Chase experience and lessons not just money?
Yes, your youth is the best time to accumulate knowledge, because the rest of your life will benefit from it.

Experience and lessons are the producers of money.

You can either accumulate money now, at the expense of developing your capacity to earn more in the future, or do the opposite, and develop the capacity to earn, at the expense of faster money now. In the long run you'll be better off if you invest in your capacity to earn while young.
 

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Yes, your youth is the best time to accumulate knowledge, because the rest of your life will benefit from it.

Experience and lessons are the producers of money.

You can either accumulate money now, at the expense of developing your capacity to earn more in the future, or do the opposite, and develop the capacity to earn, at the expense of faster money now. In the long run you'll be better off if you invest in your capacity to earn while young.
And to increase your capacity to earn more in the future is to learn a specialised skills and develop your knowledge, making yourself worth more. You learn and develop your skills everyday, whether it be copywriting, web design, selling, marketing, etc. Even though if you don't get paid, you should view them as a learning experience and not about the money?

Getting a job at like KFC is not going to teach you much about skills except interviewing skills, how you file for taxes and IRAs.

Roger that
 
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@Black_Dragon43 I thought of you as I read this...

I presume you would take it as a compliment, not as a criticism, so I post this in kind.

If I'm off that presumption, let me know and I will delete this post.

Interesting article MJ, thanks for sharing. I agree that some psychopathic traits are positively correlated with success, while others are not.

For example, psychopathy is generally linked to low levels of neuroticism from the Big 5 Personality factors. That means little fear/anxiety, or experience of other negative emotions. This would be a trait that is definitely positively associated with success.

But others are not. Psychopaths are usually poor long term planners and loners, which are not conducive to success.

To give an example, I wouldn’t assess Hitler as a psychopath. People are perfectly capable of evil without having a different brain than your average person. In fact, I’d say that a psychopath, precisely because of his brain type, is less capable of evil than a “normal” person who is committed to doing evil. I don’t think any of the world leaders now, with possibly Putin’s and Kim Jong Un’s exceptions, display strong psychopathic tendencies.

Personally, I highly doubt that I’m a psychopath. I am very high in neuroticism, easily experience negative emotions, especially fear/anxiety. I have a “fight”-response when most people would have a “flight” or “freeze” response though. I also suffer from OCD, another condition not often associated with psychopathy, the same issue Howard Hughes (the billionaire) suffered from. Largely under control now, but the tendencies are there, especially when I’m highly stressed.

Over the years I’ve become very capable to function well despite my high neuroticism. Which means that I’ve grown able to respond positively in the face of (negative) feelings that would cripple others.

Am I bold? Sometimes, but definitely not all the time, and it depends on what areas of life, as I’m not bold across all of them.

If I had a little bit more of psychopathy that would be a good thing I think LOL.

A few other relevant bits of info:
• I can’t watch horror movies, emotional impact can be too high on me (another trait not associated with psychopathy)
• Depending on the movie, I sometimes have to hold tears back during inspirational moments, such as the ending of Scent of a Woman.

I think that so long as I’m not in an adversarial relationship with someone, my empathy (how I naturally feel) can be quite high, which also isn’t always a good thing, since it prevents rational decision-making.
 

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Personally, I highly doubt that I’m a psychopath. I am very high in neuroticism, easily experience negative emotions, especially fear/anxiety. I have a “fight”-response when most people would have a “flight” or “freeze” response though. I also suffer from OCD, another condition not often associated with psychopathy, the same issue Howard Hughes (the billionaire) suffered from. Largely under control now, but the tendencies are there, especially when I’m highly stressed.


• I can’t watch horror movies, emotional impact can be too high on me (another trait not associated with psychopathy)

My apologies. Perhaps you are more of an empath.
 
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My apologies. Perhaps you are more of an empath.
No need to apologise MJ! I didn’t take it negatively at all :smile:

There’s no shame in being a psychopath, people are born that way, and it’s just how their brain works. Comes with both advantages and disadvantages, in the end, like all other things, it’s about what you do with it. Same for OCD, for example.

As I said, I wish I had some of those advantages, would certainly make many areas of life easier. There was a book I read awhile ago which is also relevant here: The Wisdom of Psychopaths. Also follows the idea that psychopathy is on a spectrum rather than on/off and often has many advantages to it, esp. when it comes to not experiencing the negative emotions such as fear and being able to take decisions without emotional considerations.
 

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People Won’t Tell You What You’re Doing Wrong

It’s a great benefit to get honest feedback from people. Most people won’t provide you with honest feedback, and you have to figure it out for yourself.

Take my situation with writing longer (and better!) articles so that I could force more money out of the client.

Nobody out of 20+ clients I did it with ever stopped me to say “Wtf BD! I asked for a 1,500 words, and I appreciate that you decided to write more and create a better article, but I have a budget that I planned for the article, and I can’t keep going over it. Can you please stick to the word count we agree?”

Nobody. They just stopped working with me, often after paying me several times for longer articles. If they had done that, I would’ve understood their point and stopped. This is very important.

Most people are afraid of conflict. They don’t want to fight with you. They prefer to avoid the tough conversations. Which means you won’t get the feedback you desperately need…

So especially on moral topics, it’s very hard to uncover what, how or why they’re holding you back. But it’s important to understand where your beliefs come from, just so that you can get some perspectives on why you think as you do and envision different possibilities that may be more useful for you.

In my case I come from an ex-Soviet country where economic crimes aren’t viewed negatively. Hell, when I grew up, you expected the mayor to steal a little bit for his family. Of course, not to exagerate, but a little theft was admirable, commendable, a sign of intelligence.

As I was walking to school, I passed by this little store. I knew the guy who worked there for 8 years. A simple clerk selling coke, sandwiches and simple stuff to kids. He had multiple apartments, an Audi, etc. I was a bit mistified only to discover in 12th grade when he was fired the truth: he got in cahoots with the the cook of the store, and the cook would produce 3-4x the number of sandwiches that would be officially sold. Most kids didn’t ask receipts, so they’d pretend to jot them down, sell them the extra sandwiches and pocket the money. 4-5x their official salary came from that. They got fired when once accidentally they forgot the additional money in the cash register when the manager came and started counting.

Later when I was running my agency, I was furious when an Indian web designer would add 2 extra hours beyond the budget. My project manager would always tell me not to mention it… he’d say “poor indian, he may be starving over there, struggling to feed his baby and take care of his wife. Let’s just let it go, he didn’t take that much”. So I’d agree to close an eye to it.

In many parts of the world economic crimes are taken for granted, to be expected out of doing business.

Until you look at this with perspective, and see the great trouble this actually causes businesses, you may not question it. You may not consider how ethical business focused on building and cultivating good relationships and trust can be much better for everyone in the long run. And hence you may not see the need to change and become any different. Even worse, your environment may not signal in any way the need for you to change!

What this means is that you need to be proactive. You need to think about your own moral beliefs and how they’re holding you back or helping you speed up. Think about what people are NOT saying to you, but obviously thinking about. Put yourself in their shoes. See how things feel from all perspectives. If you have people you can trust, ask them.

This will broaden your horizons and help you become aware of your blind spots.
 

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Love the Difference

When you first interact with people in school, you tend to associate with people who are like you.

Who like the same sports you do, who engage in the same activities, who have similar hobbies, and who have similar views, beliefs and opinions to you.

Most people continue this pattern of association through the rest of their lives.

The end result of this is that you build an environment that is more like an echo-chamber around yourself, with mini versions of you all around.

The most extreme version of this is the dictator who surrounds himself only with people who tell him what he wants to hear.

Walling yourself off from reality is a defense mechanism. And it’s getting worse and worse — the polarization we see in politics today is the result of seeking to banish those who see the world differently from us.

The flexibility provided by social media, the internet and our increased connectivity only worsens this phenomenon.

The danger is that the farther you break away from reality, the more conformity you surround yourself with, the fewer opportunities for growth you have.

Growth doesn’t come from sameness. It doesn’t come from easy. It doesn’t come from comfortable.

As you wall yourself off from reality, you really wall yourself off from different possibilities. You create a cage for yourself, in which you end up living so as not to experience fear and uncertainty.

But as human beings we’re all fallible and unable to see our blindspots by ourselves. We hate disagreements, and yet disagreements are precisely what we most need.

As someone who wants to make a big difference in your life, you need to choose truth over your ego. Stop protecting yourself emotionally and retreating in a cocoon, and learn to love the difference.

Start associating with different people. People who think the opposite of what you do. People who have widely different values from yours. People who disagree with you on fundamental matters.

You’ll begin growing. It doesn’t mean you’ll always agree with them, but by listening to them, by striving to understand them, you’ll make your own opinions, your own views stronger, more robust, closer to reality.

I get the most value on this forum from people lile @Antifragile, @Kak or @BizyDad (I’d add @Kung Fu Steve except he doesn’t speak to me at all ever since our fight LOL!). These are all people I massively disagree with on important points, and whom I often end up arguing with and duking it out with on the forum.

But who would I be without them? Who would Hercules be without the Hydra? Who would you be without your obstacles, without those who are different from you who always push you, like a hammer molds iron into a sword?

I don’t need more of MY thoughts and MY opinions. I have too many of those in my head. And you do too. You already know what you think… there’s no value there left, you’ve sucked it all out. The value is in what you DON’T know yet, and if you’re always keeping your mind closed, you’ll never learn about it.

If you want to become a leader in your life, in your community, in your business, you need to learn to love the difference. It’s the difference that brings you closer to reality, that challenges you, that makes you grow and become the best version of you that you can be.
 
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Great post, I really liked it

It brings up an interesting thing I’ve wanted to share on here for a while now with the seeming influx of younger members

Your teenage years are not the time to try and build wealth or a massive business

They are for fun, trying things, making friends and learning social skills

You can also dabble in trying different technical skills

I really would hate for people to waste these years locked in their room thinking they need to hustle 24/7 and get rich right now

Enjoy the process and the journey

Enjoy your life

If you want to start a business with your friends or by yourself, learn a skill etc it’s a good time to do that, but don’t do it at the expense of other things thinking you need to get rich right now

You said it perfectly black dragon, these are the years to build social skills and learn how to function in the world
 

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I get the most value on this forum from people lile @Antifragile, @Kak or @BizyDad (I’d add @Kung Fu Steve except he doesn’t speak to me at all ever since our fight LOL!). These are all people I massively disagree with on important points, and whom I often end up arguing with and duking it out with on the forum.
It brings up an interesting thing I’ve wanted to share on here...

I want to highlight BD's comment for you @MitchC

In Johnny's thread you made the accusation that the usual people were arguing just to argue. I assume I'm included in that group, and I don't think that is a fair assessment. Knowing the others BD mentioned, I'll say we argue because
  • We are trying to get better ourselves
  • We feel someone has given bad advice and that can have a negative impact on people
  • We feel someone has given incomplete advice and we can help round out the picture
  • Other reasons (because I'm sure there are other reasons)
But I don't think on that list of other reasons is "arguing just to argue". There are tons of comments made behind the scenes that don't get aired on these threads because it would be "arguing just to argue". No one wants to waste their time.

Like in my case, I saw your comment. I didn't respond on that thread because that would have felt like arguing just to argue, even if that wasn't my intent. It probably would have come across reactionary and defensive.

I thought to include a comment to you in another thread I've been thinking about starting, but I wasn't sure if that too would be reactionary. Besides, I haven't written that one and might not.

Still, here, with @Black_Dragon43 's comment as a backdrop, I can respond directly to the comment and hope that it isn't taken as "arguing just to argue" but rather as furthering the discussion already taking place in this thread.

Lastly, I do want to recognize @Black_Dragon43 's improvement in this area specifically. I've noticed the tonal change ever since he had that chat with MJ, because it is one thing to have a disagreement, it was another to go about it aggressively.
 

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