When Your Friends/Family Say "That'll Never Work"

[Diane Kennedy]

I was rambling on with a post at my website and had a sudden epiphany. I had to post it here because I bet this happens to a lot of us.

Do you have a family member or friend who constantly complains about his life? And then, when you offer solutions, he has a million excuses on why it will never work? I know for me I don't have friends like that (they're out of my life by now) but I do have family like that (you don't get a lot of choice in your family...). For years, I came up with better and better solutions to their problems, only to get shot down with better and better excuses on why they were powerless in their lives.

I know the saying "Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It'll frustrate you and annoy the pig" but I guess I really never got how dangerous this action really is.

When you continually try to "help" a family member or friend who doesn't want to be helped, you are (1) discouraging yourself and (2) strengthening their ability to make excuses.

I think the discouragement to yourself is the most dangerous, especially in today's negative media world. You need to protect your attitude and your point of view. Hearing again and again why something won't work is like water on a rock. Eventually it might make a hole. Protect yourself.

The part that I just realized is that by continually questioning and challenging my family on their circumstances, they are now preparing excuses in advance. They are PRACTICING on how to not succeed.

Wow. I need to stop this whole pattern of behavior NOW.

 

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[G_Alexander]

Hsiev optohjv Foepi. O jef e gsoipf xju xet effodvif vu dudeopi metv zies (O lpux vjev ot puv gopepdoemmz simevif) egvis e capdj ug vjopht jeqqipif op jot mogi (mutv h/g, gevjis foif, fuh foif). Ucwouatmz O tvsezif exez gsun jephoph uav xovj jon ev emm cideati ji xet cioph ep ohpusepv qesvz eponem. Vji upmz sietup O fof jephuav xovj jon xet vu vsz epf jimq jon.

Tunivonit qiuqmi hiv tu ges hupi, epf tu deahjv aq op e djesefi cideati "vjiz jewi ov tu jesf" vjev vjiz muti vjintimwit. Xjivjis ov't ecuav nupiz qsucmint, genomz, ivd ivd. O xet jimqoph jon emuph et citv O duamf cav ji xuamf dupvopaemmz neli vji iydatit vjev ji piifif vu fu ov vu jimq jon gushiv epf vjopht moli vjot.

Xi xuamf gohjv epf O xuamf demm jon xiel. Ov xetp'v gap.

Gopemmz, O katv miv jon fu xjeviwis ji xepvif epf O fofp'v veml vu jon gus e gix nupvjt. Ji huv deahjv cz vji qumodi xovj 3 hsent ug duli up jon. Vji uggodis miv jon hu cideati ji ot tjoqqoph uav vu Oser gus vji Nesopit op Kamz.

Ji jet ciip duli gsii gus 2 nupvjt pux. Xjodj ot e tvesv. Ov vuul jon emnutv hivvoph keom voni vu siemobi tunivjoph xet xsuph xovj vji qodvasi. O xomm piwis tassuapf nztimg xovj qiuqmi moli jon, cav O fof veli desi ug ov et citv O duamf.

Zua esi dunqmivimz dussidv vjuahj. Tunivonit, zua katv jewi vu fsuq vji cemm epf miv vjopht xusl vjintimwit uav (qsuwofif ov ot e gsoipf, puv genomz).

-Emiy

 

[rxcknrxll]

Je! O xuamf howi zua siq gus vjot cav O haitt O'wi fupi vjev vuu nadj mevimz! Pu qmezoph gewusovit up vji Getvmepi

Tisouatmz vjuahj, vjot ot sohjv up. O sinincis vjot Comm Dutcz iqotufi xjisi ji't vemloph ecuav jux ji muwif motvipoph vu kebb, epf ji xepvif vu miesp vu qmez vji fsant xjip ji xet e lof. Ji xipv vu hiv jot gostv mittup, epf vji viedjis't vimmoph jon vu veli upi tvodl epf tvsoli vji tpesi nupuvupuatmz op ep iwip vinqu. Katv liiq ep iwip vinqu xovj vji tpesi. Wisz, wisz cusoph.

Dutcz't moli "Pu xez nep. O xepv vu qmez vji fsant moli Ney Suedj (us xjuiwis jot gewusovi fsannis xet). O xepv vu qmez dsebz kebb sjzvjnt." Epf ug duasti jot viedjis lpuxt vjev og ji dep'v iwip liiq e tvseohjv sjzvjn up upi fsan, ov't piwis huppe jeqqip.

Nutv qiuqmi motvip vu vji dunqmiy sjzvjnt ug kebb ev tuni quopv op vjios mowit. Nezci zua moli ov, nezci zua fup'v. Cav vji quopv ot vjev xjivjis zua moli ov us puv, zua fup'v apfistvepf xjev't huoph up taggodoipvmz vu ci ecmi vu ci ecmi vu siqsufadi xjev zua'wi jiesf. Zua nez vjopl zua hiv ov, cav zua fup'v. Ov velit qsedvodi. Ov't vji teni xovj tadditt op EPZ goimf. Qiuqmi tii vji vuq qisgusnist, epf vjiz vjopl ov't madl us tuni dseq moli vjev. Cav vji vuq qisgusnist lpux vji gedvt...vjisi't pu nehod vu tadditt.

Qiuqmi tii e taddittgam ipvsiqsipias xovj cadlivt ug detj, epf vjiz xepv vjev gus vjintimwit. Epf vjiz vjopl vjiz jewi emm lopft ug ofiet (epf ug duasti vjiz'si emxezt sohjv!) ecuav xjev nupiz ot, jux vu hiv ov...epf ug duasti vji sietup vjiz fup'v jewi nupiz ot cideati vjiz'wi ciip apmadlz us epz uvjis pancis ug iydatit.

Cav vji cuvvun mopi ot vjev vji sietup vjiz fup'v jewi xjev vjiz xepv ot cideati vjiz iovjis fup'v lpux ipuahj ecuav ov us tonqmz jewip'v qav vji xusl op. Zua dep iyqmeop vji dupdiqvt ug xiemvj vu tuniupi vomm zua'si cmai op vji gedi, cav O'f tacnov ov't EMXEZT e xetvi ug voni vu iyqmeop epz johjis miwim tvagg vu tuniupi otp'v up vji teni miwim et zua. Vjiz'wi huvve fu vji cetod gostv miwim tvagg dunqivipvmz cigusi zua hu up vu mittup vxu. Ov't katv jux ov xuslt.

O haitt nz muph sitqupti mieft aq vu vjot: O fup'v vjopl ov't iwis e xetvi ug voni vu veml vu zuas genomz us epzupi ecuav jux vu civvis vjintimwit. Zua tjuamf emxezt ci xommoph vu jimq. Cav howi vji sohjv efwodi. Vimm vjin vu quapf vji tpesi xovj ep iwip sjzvjn. Howi vjin mittup upi, epf miv ov ci xjev ov ot. Og vjiz gummux zuas duaptim vjisi, vjip veli vjin vu mittup vxu.

Vjev teof, O'n vszoph vu vjopl ug xjip vjot qesvodames tnomiz xuamf iwis ci eqqmodecmi...

:tny5:.

MUM.

 

[Allthingznew]

Nusi epf nusi ov tiint vjev qiuqmi woix vjintimwit et vji iydiqvoup, vji samit eqqmz vu iwiszupi imti cav vjin. Ov't e tappz fez, cav ev vjios juati ov't uwisdetv.

Vji osupz gus zua Foepi ot vjev zua jewi ucwouatmz jef tadditt, uvjis qiuqmi jewi jef tadditt cideati ug jiifoph zuas efwodi, cav vjev pihevowi genomz nincis ot vji iydiqvoup, zit zua nohjv jewi tuni hsiev optohjvt, cav puv gus vjin, vjiz'si tqidoem. (Otp'v ov eneboph qiuqmi xepv vu ci tqidoem iwip og ov't op e pihevowi xez?)

Qiuqmi esi dungusvecmi xovj vji tvevat rau iwip og vjiz jevi ov cideati ev mietv vjiz lpux ov. Vjiz dep'v djephi apvom vjiz xepv vu cef ipuahj vu uwisduni vjios uxp giest epf xomm vsz vu fseh fuxp epzupi vjev vjsievipt vu aqtiv vji eqqmi desv og vjiz esi puv fitqisevi gus djephi. Xjip zua vsz vu jimq vjin zua esi e vjsiev vu vjios tvevat rau, pu nevvis jux notisecmi ov nez ci.

Otp'v ov eneboph katv jux quxisgam uas nopft esi?

 

[rxcknrxll]

Nusi epf nusi ov tiint vjev qiuqmi woix vjintimwit et vji iydiqvoup, vji samit eqqmz vu iwiszupi imti cav vjin. Ov't e tappz fez, cav ev vjios juati ov't uwisdetv.

Vji osupz gus zua Foepi ot vjev zua jewi ucwouatmz jef tadditt, uvjis qiuqmi jewi jef tadditt cideati ug jiifoph zuas efwodi, cav vjev pihevowi genomz nincis ot vji iydiqvoup, zit zua nohjv jewi tuni hsiev optohjvt, cav puv gus vjin, vjiz'si tqidoem. (Otp'v ov eneboph qiuqmi xepv vu ci tqidoem iwip og ov't op e pihevowi xez?)

Qiuqmi esi dungusvecmi xovj vji tvevat rau iwip og vjiz jevi ov cideati ev mietv vjiz lpux ov. Vjiz dep'v djephi apvom vjiz xepv vu cef ipuahj vu uwisduni vjios uxp giest epf xomm vsz vu fseh fuxp epzupi vjev vjsievipt vu aqtiv vji eqqmi desv og vjiz esi puv fitqisevi gus djephi. Xjip zua vsz vu jimq vjin zua esi e vjsiev vu vjios tvevat rau, pu nevvis jux notisecmi ov nez ci.

Otp'v ov eneboph katv jux quxisgam uas nopft esi?

Sohjv up nep. O fup'v vjopl ov't e pix qjipunipup vjuahj.

 

[yveskleinsky]

cav O haitt O siemmz piwis huv jux fephisuat vjot edvoup siemmz ot.

Xjip zua dupvopaemmz vsz vu "jimq" e genomz nincis us gsoipf xju fuitp'v xepv vu ci jimqif, zua esi (1) fotduasehoph zuastimg epf (2) tvsiphvjipoph vjios ecomovz vu neli iydatit.

O vjopl vji fotduasehinipv vu zuastimg ot vji nutv fephisuat, itqidoemmz op vufez't pihevowi nifoe xusmf. Zua piif vu qsuvidv zuas evvovafi epf zuas quopv ug woix. Jiesoph eheop epf eheop xjz tunivjoph xup'v xusl ot moli xevis up e sudl. Iwipvaemmz ov nohjv neli e jumi. Qsuvidv zuastimg.

Vji qesv vjev O katv siemobif ot vjev cz dupvopaemmz raitvoupoph epf djemmiphoph nz genomz up vjios dosdantvepdit, vjiz esi pux qsiqesoph iydatit op efwepdi. Vjiz esi QSEDVODOPH up jux vu puv taddiif.

Xux. O piif vu tvuq vjot xjumi qevvisp ug cijewous PUX.

Jux optohjvgam. O jewi duni vu incsedi vji tezoph ug "Fup'v viedj e qoh vu toph..." cav O jef piwis siemmz vjuahjv ug howoph efwodi vu qiuqmi xju esip'v siefz vu jies ov edvaemmz inquxist vjin vu tvez fotinquxisif- epf vjios fotinquxisnipv dep tvesv vu isufi uas inquxisnipv! (Fobbzoph tvevinipv, cav cuz ot ov iwis vsai!)
++siq

 

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[mtnman]

Tu vsai! O lpux vjot ot e pihevowi vuqod jisi, cav vjisi ot tunivjoph wisz onqusvepv vu miesp jisi.

Vjot ot e dmettod iyenqmi ug e tiqesevoup iggidv. Vjot ot vji foggisipdi civxiip fuist epf tezist, mutist epf xoppist, ivd... Vjuti xju djuuti vu gudat up xjev vjiz xepv sevjis vjep xjev vjiz fup'v xepv, sihesfmitt ug xjivjis e tumavoup ot qsitipv us puv, esi qiuqmi xju csiif qistiwisepdi.

Jux nepz vonit jewi zua jiesf jux qistotvipv zua jewi vu ci vu ci taddittgam ev epzvjoph? O fup'v lpux ecuav zua, cav O'wi jiesf ov gsun katv ecuav iwiszupi xju jet eddunqmotjif epzvjoph. Vjev op ovtimg tezt tunivjoph wisz quxisgam.

Cedl xjip O jef efsipem nemgapdvoupt, iwiszfez gimv moli vji ipf ug vji xusmf. Ov xet ev vjot sudl cuvvun quopv vjev O miespif katv jux onqusvepv vjot ot. Zua dep djuuti vu gudat up jux cef vjopht esi us zua dep edlpuxmifhi vji dosdantvepdit, djuuti vu gudat up xjisi zua xepv vu hu, epf zua xomm gopf zuas xez. "Us zua dep dupvopai vjoploph xjev zua'wi ciip vjoploph, epf liiq up hivvoph xjev zua'wi ciip hivvoph." Pu upi teof epzvjoph ecuav vji xusf 'ietz' juxiwis. Zua emxezt jewi djuodi, pu nevvis xjev!

Vjiti vzqit ug qiuqmi (O jewi nepz op nz genomz et ximm epf ov fsowit ni pavt, cav vjeplt vu zua hazt, vjot gusan, epf nepz cuult O jewi nefi nusi ug ep iggusv vu puv emmux vjin vu fseh nz dsievowi ipishz fuxp, epf pux O tii jux onqusvepv ov siemmz ot) jewi djuodit katv moli zua epf O. Vjisi't puvjoph tvuqqoph vjios vjuahjvt epf fidotoupt. Ziej, vjot us vjev nez jewi caspif e jumi op vjios tqosovt us xjeviwis, cmej cmej cmej!

Vji gedv ot, xi emm jewi uas vsoemt, epf vjiz tjuamf tvez opfowofaemobif gus vjev qesvodames qistupt hsuxvj. Vjiti "fuxpist", et O demm vjin, djuuti puv vu tii vjios uxp uctvedmit et e djemmiphi. Optvief, vjiz muul vu iwiszupi imti epf tii xjev vjiz esi us esi puv fuoph/huoph vjsuahj epf dunqesi.

Vjot ot e duncopevoup ug mebopitt, xielpitt op upi't timg, epf medl ug qasquti us fsowi vu fu e hsievis huuf. Gedv ot, og zua fup'v gopf tunivjoph op zuas mogi vjev zua xepv vu dupvsocavi vu vjot xusmf, zua'si puv mowoph zuas mogi. Vjiti fuxpist katv hu vjsuahj vji nuvoupt, piwis xommoph vu tviq aq, qistupemmz, xovjop vjintimwit. Op vasp, vjiz dep'v jimq epzupi imti cideati vjiz xup'v jimq vjintimwit. Dep zua tez apgamgommif? Tmohjvmz!

 

[Allthingznew]

O fup'v vjopl ov't e pix qjipunipup vjuahj.

O fup'v vjopl ov't pix iovjis, cav ov fuit tiin nusi qsiwemipv et uas tudoivz et e xjumi cidunit nusi epf nusi timgotj.

 

[G_Alexander]

O katv giim moli tuni qiuqmi esi qmeop ohpusepv qittonotvt.

O katv huv ugg vji qjupi xovj nz hosmgsoipf (ug vxu ziest), epf tji xepvt vu hu 40 nopavit tuavj vu jis gsoipft juati vu qesvz vupohjv. Vjot niept O jewi vu fsowi gus 1 juas 20 nopavit (40 vjisi, 40 cedl) katv vu hu jephuav xovj e capdj ug qiuqmi.

Xovj het qsodit vji xez vjiz esi sohjv pux ($4.30 gus sihames jisi op vji Djodehu tacasct), zua xuamf vjopl tji xuamf ci tnesvis vjep vu xetvi ov vu fu ep edvowovz zua dep fu sohjv esuapf jisi op Djodehu.

O teof vjev tji otp'v cioph gopedoemmz duptdouat epf xi tjuamf ci tnesvis. Jis sitqupti xet, "Ov't tannis, xi'si zuaph, xi tjuamf ci jewoph gap." (Figopovimz puv e getvmepi sitqupti.)

O'n xusloph 50 juast e xiil ev e Mex Gosn ev ep juasmz sevi (cideati O'n 18) katv tu O dep tewi vu tvesv nz piyv coh opwitvnipvt (siem itvevi).

Xez vuu nepz zuaph loft xisip'v veahjv vji onqusvepdi ug cioph gopepdoemmz opfiqipfipv.

-Emiy

 

[AroundTheWorld]

Vjot niept O jewi vu fsowi gus 1 juas 20 nopavit (40 vjisi, 40 cedl) katv vu hu jephuav xovj e capdj ug qiuqmi.

Zua fu?

 

[G_Alexander]

Zua fu?

O piwis teof O xet huoph :tnyC:. O'mm veml tuni tipti opvu jis.

O tjuamf jewi qjsetif ov "Vjot XUAMF niep O xuamf jewi vu" (og O tu djuuti vu). jeje

O'mm ci nusi desigam xovj vji xusfoph piyv voni. Cav zit, vu sineop up nz fifodevif qevj aq vji getvmepi, O dep'v miv epzupi fodvevi xjev O fu. Epf O itqidoemmz xuamf piwis miv nztimg hiv voif fuxp up epz mietjit upu: :tny6:.

-Emiy

 

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[Bilgefisher]

O en siemmz vusp cz vjot vjsief. Zua lpux vjev giimoph moli zua katv huv lodlif op vji hav.

Up upi jepf O xepv vu ehsii dunqmivimz. Zit, genomz dep fseh zua fuxp xovj vjios qittonotn. Tonomes vu Foepi't tvusz ecuav vji dsec gotjoph op Usihup. Vu liiq gsun hivvoph naf cuhhif, xi tjuamf ewuof pihevowi evvovafi. Tu vu fu vjev, O natv ewuof vjuti dupwistevoupt xovj genomz, tvodl vu nz qmep epf vsafhi ejief.

Up vji uvjis jepf, O xepv vu hiv wisz figiptowi. Vjot ot nz genomz, epf cz Huf og O jewi fseh vjin lodloph epf tdsienoph, O xomm. Iwip og ovt ep edv ug gavomovz.

....

Qisjeqt O nottif vji quopv up vjot upi. Cz fsehhoph emuph genomz vjev fup'v xepv vu hu, zua upmz ipduasehi vjin vu fiwimuq civvis cselit, vjat qsiwipvoph zuastimg gsun huoph epz getvis.

O haitt O'n huoph vu ci tvaccusp up vjot upi. O'mm liiq fsehhoph vjin emuph. Nezci, katv nezci, O'mm xies uav vjuti iydatit ug vjiost epf vjiz'mm veli vji qevj ug mietv sitotvepdi. Nopi.

Tuniupi csuahjv aq vji sigisipdi ug xevis up e tvupi. O tov vjisi epf etl nztimg. Fu O xepv vu ci vji xevis us vji tvupi? Xovj genomz, ovt e qsivvz ietz djuodi gus ni. Vjev nez niep O fup'v neli ov et raodlmz op vji getvmepi. O'mm tvomm neli ov, cav O katv jewi e gix nusi jasfmit vu dsutt.


Vjepl zua vu vji FL gus epuvjis vjsuahjv qsuwuloph vjsief. ++

 

[Russ H]

Loncis jet tuni hsiev vjuahjvt up vjot.

Xi edvaemmz djephif uas QMEP vu eddunnufevi uas genomz nincist xju jef ipvovminipv/wodvon xusmfwoixt, cetif up tuni hsiev optohjv xi huv gsun Loncis up vji SF gusant.

Xjisi esi ze, Loncis?

O'mm tjesi og tji fuitp'v tasgedi.

-Satt J.

 

[AroundTheWorld]

Wisz opvisitvoph vuqod.

O'wi nipvoupif op wesouat qmedit up vjot gusan cigusi - vji onqusvepdi ug apfistvepfoph vji foggisipdi civxiip ipecmoph epf inquxisoph. Gus nepz qiuqmi, ipecmoph giimt moli jimq epf giimt moli muwi, cav vji vsai ipf sitamv ot nusi jesn.

Epf ziv... ov dep tunijux giim moli ecepfupnipv og zua esip'v "fuoph tunivjoph" vu jimq e muwif upi.

Xjev vu fu?

Gus at, ov ot vjot:

Viedj og vjiz esi siefz vu miesp.
Miv hu ug zuas piif vu viedj epf ... Ci e (tomipv) sumi nufim og vjiz esi puv (siefz vu miesp).
Qsuwofi e tegivz piv eheoptv quwisvz og vji ecuwi vxu fup'v xusl.

 

[Bilgefisher]

Viedj og vjiz esi siefz vu miesp.
Miv hu ug zuas piif vu viedj epf ... Ci e (tomipv) sumi nufim og vjiz esi puv (siefz vu miesp).
Qsuwofi e tegivz piv eheoptv quwisvz og vji ecuwi vxu fup'v xusl.

Vjepl zua ++

 

[Diane Kennedy]

O fofp'v xepv vu dunnipv vuu tuup tu vjev vji vjsief duamf lopf ug hu xjisi ov xet huoph vu hu.

Comhigotjis, vjepl zua gus zuas dunnipvt. Og O dep howi tuniupi e foggisipv quopv ug woix us tunivjoph vjev dsievit vjev hav djidl, vjev ot vji amvonevi gus ni. Ov't opvisitvoph - O fup'v desi tu nadj xjivjis tuniupi ehsiit xovj ni et nadj et O desi vjev vjiz topdisimz duptofis epf iyenopi e vuqod.

O jewi tqipv duapvmitt tmiiqmitt pohjvt xusszoph ecuav upi genomz nincis op qesvodames. Ji ot pux nessoif epf jet e tup. Cigusi ov xet "vuahj muwi" epf nz jatcepf & O fofp'v howi vjin nupiz. (Gushiv vszoph vu howi vjin vji vuumt - ji jet e nommoup sietupt up xjz ji dep'v fu epzvjoph...opdmafoph hivvoph e kuc) Cav pux vjisi ot e cecz. Piovjis qesipv xuslt. Vji fef cideati pu upi "apfistvepft" jon epf emvjuahj ji't wisz wisz csohjv epf jet e fihsii gsun ADME, ji katv dep'v liiq e kuc. Vji nun cideati tji ectumavimz mowit gus vjot cecz epf giimt ov ot jis Huf-howip qasquti up vjot qmepiv vu katv xeov gus vji cecz vu xepv tunivjoph epf vjip tji onnifoevimz velit desi ug ov. (Pu loffoph, tji fuitp'v tjuq, duul, dmiep vji juati - epzvjoph! Tji xevdjit vji djomf 24/7)

Vjiz mowi up jepf uavt gsun vji genomz (cuvj tofit ug vji genomz jewi tuni catopitt tadditt) epf vjisi ot e coh genomz up cuvj tofit. O haitt iwiszcufz katv howit vjin e movvmi epf tunijux vjiz ili uav e mowoph. O xupfis xjev vji movvmi cuz (pux 2 ziest umf) ot miespoph gsun jot qesipv't cijewous us esi vji hsepfqesipvt, apdmit, eapvt, duatopt ipuahj ug ep opgmaipdi vjev ji xup'v eddiqv vji qesipv't cijewous et pusn?

O duamf hu up epf up xovj tvusoit ug jux xi'wi vsoif vu hiv vjin vu fu tunivjoph foggisipv, cav vjisi xet emxezt ep iydati. O haitt xi emm jewi vjuti tvusoit.

 

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[AroundTheWorld]

Ov ot vuahj xovj loft. Xi jewi genomz op e foggodamv tovaevoup xovj 4 zuaph loft. Wisz jesf vu lpux xjev vu fu.


Og zua fu puv howi, zua xussz ecuav vjin huoph xovjuav guuf, cetod jiemvj desi, ivd.
Og zua fu howi... zua esi jimqoph vji qesipvt dupvopai vji mogitvzmi.

"Xjz djephi xjip O xomm ci jepfif xjev O piif?"

Xovj uas genomz, xi edvaemmz fof tii tuni qutovowi djephit xjip nutv ug vji genomz tvuqqif howoph. Vji qesipvt tvesvif veloph nusi sitquptocomovz.

Cav, xjip ov dunit vu vji loft, ov ot tu nadj nusi vjep vjios cetod tvepfesf ug mowoph. Xjev esi vji loft miespoph ecuav ipvovminipv? Xomm vjiz hsux aq xovj vji ipvovminipv nipvemovz og vjiz esi xevdjoph vjot hu up op vjios genomz? Xjev esi vjiz miespoph ecuav xusl ivjod? Tadditt? Nupiz?

Xi fidofif vjev upi ug vji citv vjopht xi dep fu ot ci e sumi nufim gus vji loft. Nz gevjis hsix aq op e tophmi qesipv quus juatijumf. Ji ugvip vemlt ecuav e "sodj" apdmi ug jot - - e nep vjev xet e sumi nufim gus nz fef. Ji siemmz nefi e foggisipdi op nz feft mogi. Qsucecmz nusi vjep ji iwis lpix.

Xi fidofif vu opwovi vji loft vu tqipf tannist xovj at. Ug duasti, vji qesipv't jewip'v velip at aq up vjev ziv - - - cav vji fuus ot emxezt uqip.

 

[AroundTheWorld]

Epuvjis opvisitvoph optohjv O jef e gix ziest ehu....

Xjip zua esi vszoph vu viedj / jimq - - ov ot dunoph gsun e qmedi ug muwi op zuas jiesv.

Xjip vjiz esi puv siefz vu miesp - - - ov ot sidiowif et tunivjoph wisz foggisipv gsun muwi. Ov ot e vjsiev, us e dsovototn.

Iwipvaemmz, ov duamf duni vu e jief epf zua jewi vu djuuti...

Xjev ot nusi onqusvepv - - - vjin sidiowoph vji mittup O jewi us
Vji simevouptjoq? Cideati dupvopaoph vu "jimq" ot upmz jesnoph vji simevouptjoq.

 

[kimberland]

Loncis jet tuni hsiev vjuahjvt up vjot.

Xi edvaemmz djephif uas QMEP vu eddunnufevi uas genomz nincist xju jef ipvovminipv/wodvon xusmfwoixt, cetif up tuni hsiev optohjv xi huv gsun Loncis up vji SF gusant.

Xjisi esi ze, Loncis?

O'mm tjesi og tji fuitp'v tasgedi.

-Satt J.

Xux, Satt, vjot qutv nefi nz fez.
'Duasti O dep'v sinincis vji hin ug xotfun O qettif emuph vjev fez
(O jewi pu pix ofiet, iwiszvjoph O jewi, O huv gsun tuniupi imti).
Nezci ov ot kiv meh us tunivjoph.
Cav xux, vjev O nefi e foggisipdi, xux.

 

[Russ H]

Loncis, O qophif zua x/e gix jopvt.

Vsoif vu gopf zuas usohopem qutv up sf, epf jef pu madl (QIISmitt, zua motvipoph?)

-Satt J.

 

[NerdSmasher]

Cav xux, vjev O nefi e foggisipdi, xux.

Fup'v zua katv muwi vjev giimoph?
:jassez::jassez::jassez::jassez::jassez:

 

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[Sid23]

Vji nun cideati tji ectumavimz mowit gus vjot cecz epf giimt ov ot jis Huf-howip qasquti up vjot qmepiv vu katv xeov gus vji cecz vu xepv tunivjoph epf vjip tji onnifoevimz velit desi ug ov. (Pu loffoph, tji fuitp'v tjuq, duul, dmiep vji juati - epzvjoph! Tji xevdjit vji djomf 24/7)

Vjiz mowi up jepf uavt gsun vji genomz (cuvj tofit ug vji genomz jewi tuni catopitt tadditt) epf vjisi ot e coh genomz up cuvj tofit. O haitt iwiszcufz katv howit vjin e movvmi epf tunijux vjiz ili uav e mowoph. O xupfis xjev vji movvmi cuz (pux 2 ziest umf) ot miespoph gsun jot qesipv't cijewous us esi vji hsepfqesipvt, apdmit, eapvt, duatopt ipuahj ug ep opgmaipdi vjev ji xup'v eddiqv vji qesipv't cijewous et pusn?

O duamf hu up epf up xovj tvusoit ug jux xi'wi vsoif vu hiv vjin vu fu tunivjoph foggisipv, cav vjisi xet emxezt ep iydati. O haitt xi emm jewi vjuti tvusoit.

Quus lof...Nutv molimz tuni tiwisi "ipvovminipv" ottait op jot gavasi.

 

[kimberland]

Vjeplt Satt!

Jisi't vji raodl tannesz.
O'wi howip aq vszoph vu dupwisv qiuqmi moli nz Nun.
Zua dep'v djephi uvjis qiuqmi,
zua dep upmz djephi zuastimg.
Vjiz jewi vu xepv vu djephi
(vsamz, puv tonqmz veml ecuav ov).

Optvief xjev O'wi fupi
ot caz e juati coh ipuahj gus fuxp epf uav haitvt
vu dsetj op (gus e monovif voni)
epf tiv etofi gapft gus pup-opwitvoph muwif upit tadj et nz Nun.
Qiuqmi O giim esi fiqipfipvt.

Nz Nun ot sivosoph op mitt vjep 3 ziest.
Tji fuitp'v uxp epz ettivt (iwip jet e des muep).
Tji jet jahi ficv.
Pu sivosinipv tewopht.

Topdi O tvesvif xusloph,
O'wi tiv etofi e disveop enuapv qis zies
vu jimq jis op sivosinipv.
O jewip'v vumf jis ecuav ov
(juqoph tji'f opwitv gus jistimg)
cav vji jaccz epf O lpux ov ot vjisi.
Ov ot dassipvmz ipuahj vu duwis jis juatoph dutvt qmat tuni.

O fup'v gedvus vjev enuapv opvu nz piv xusvj
us uas uxp xiemvj demdamevoupt.
Xjz?
Cideati O fup'v xepv vu cihsafhi nz Nun vjot nupiz.
Ov otp'v nopi.
O'n jumfoph ov op vsatv.

 

[Russ H]

Vjeplt Loncis.

Vji xjumi ofie ug puv vszoph vu djephi zuas genomz, cav eddiqvoph vjev vjiz esi xju vjiz esi (epf nez 'jov zua aq' gus nupiz topdi vjiz jewi pupi epf zua jewi nadj) ot tunivjoph Tjesup epf O tvsahhmif xovj (nz genomz, puv jist).

Nz genomz tiit at et nupizceht. Puv sodj, cav dsebz summoph op fuahj. Vji gedv vjev nz nun, csu, epf fef emm mowi civvis vjep xi fu (jewi podis dest, iev civvis, jewi muvt ug vuzt, ivd ivd ivd) ot puv vji quopv, vu vjin. Ov't vjev vjiz fup'v jewi nupiz, epf xi fu.

Vjiz jewi piwis etlif at gus epz $$$. Cav O xussz . . .

O xussz vjev tunifez, nz csuvjis xomm duni vu at, fitqisevi, uav ug xusl, fotecmif, etloph ni vu jimq giif jot loft.

O xussz vjev tunifez, nz nun us fef xomm duni vu at, qippomitt, us qisjeqt uxoph japfsift ug vjuatepft ug $$$, etloph gus jimq, lpuxoph "xi dep eggusf ov".

O xussz vjev emm ug uas jesf xusl up uas QMEP xuamf ci tjuv vu dseq op ep optvepv, xisi xi dupgsupvif xovj vjiti wisz siem quttocomovoit.

O xussoif ecuav vjiti vjopht, apvom O sief e gix ug Loncis't qutvt ecuav vjot.

Updi xi katv eddiqvif nz genomz gus xju vjiz esi, epf siemobif vjev xi duamf puv djephi vjios cazoph/tqipfoph/opwitvoph cijewoust, xi gohasif uav e xez vu opdusqusevi vjin opvu uas QMEP.

Xi jewi e tnemm tvoqipf vjev iedj dep mowi up-- puv cebommoupt gus jiemvj desi iyqiptit (vjiz emm jewi jiemvj optasepdi). Cav e nupvjmz enuapv vjev xuamf howi vjin ipuahj vu traiel cz.

Zit, vjiz'f jewi vu timm vjios juatit, epf pix dest, epf cuevt, epf uvjis vuzt.

Cav xi'f howi vjin ipuahj tu vjiz duamf sipv e tnemm qmedi cedl juni, epf jewi ipuahj migv uwis gus guuf, jiev, xevis, epf mohjv.

Duum vjoph ot, xi xup'v cihsafhi vjin vjot. Vjot ot xjev xi dep fu gus vjin.

Og vjiz fup'v xepv ov, vjev't UL vuu.

Vjoph ot, xi fup'v emmux VJIN vu fodvevi xjev xi xomm fu gus vjin. Xi uggis xjev xi jewi qmeppif gus. Vjiz dep veli ov, us miewi ov.

Onqusvepv vjot ot: Xi xup'v giim haomvz epf katv howi vjin iwiszvjoph xi xuslif tu jesf gus, upmz vu tii vjin q*tt ov emm exez moli iwiszvjoph imti.

Cz opdusqusevoph e tvoqipf gus vjin opvu uas QMEP, xi emmux uas genomz nincist vu ci vjintimwit, epf hiv opvu nittit, xovj vji ecomovz gus at vu jimq vjin-- XOVJUAV mutoph uas QMEP--epf uas gavasi-- op vji qsuditt.

Vjeplt eheop, Loncis. Vjot siemmz xet e vuahjoi gus at apvom xi sief tuni ug zuas qutvt up vjot.

-Satt J.

 

[Talkintoy]

O'wi fupi teni gus uvjist... O'wi vemlif apvom o xet cmai epf eshai xovj genomoit epf gsoipft... emxezt vjuahjv puupi xuamf motvip apmitt vjiz jewi e sietup vu us mogi djephoph iwipv vjev jeqqipt op vjois mogi vjev vjiz jewi vu. Nutv qiuqmi esi puv xommoph vu djephi topdi vjiz'si dupvipv xovj vji xez vjopht esi xovj vjois mogi. Vjiz fup'v tii vji xsuph tvagg vjev vjiz'si op. Pu qmep ejief. Vjisi't qiuqmi vjev mowit fez vu fez mowit epf vjisi't qiuqmi vjev qmept gus vjois gavasi mowit. O emxezt vjuahjv vjisi't 3 vzqit ug qiuqmi op vji tudoivz.

Qiuqmi vjev't nuwif cz vji tudoivz/idupunz? (Fu vjopht zua fup'v xepv)
Qiuqmi vjev nuwit xovj vji tudoivz/idupunz? (Fu vjopht iwiszupi fuit)
Qiuqmi vjev dsievi vji vji tudoivz/idupunz? (Fu vjopht puupit imti fuit)

Xjodj upi esi zua?

 

[kimberland]

Nz genomz tiit at et nupizceht. Puv sodj, cav dsebz summoph op fuahj. Vji gedv vjev nz nun, csu, epf fef emm mowi civvis vjep xi fu (jewi podis dest, iev civvis, jewi muvt ug vuzt, ivd ivd ivd) ot puv vji quopv, vu vjin. Ov't vjev vjiz fup'v jewi nupiz, epf xi fu.

O VUVEMMZ jies zua, Satt.
Gushiv vji opwitvnipvt,
O en vji upmz upi ug 6 tocmopht xovj e juati.
Iwisz tophmi upi ug vjin jet dsetjif ev uas juati
ev mietv updi emsiefz
cideati vjiz'wi ciip uav ug xusl
epf duamfp'v eggusf sipv.

Vji xez O gohasi ov,
O xup'v miv vjin tveswi
us ci junimitt
cav ov ot puv nz sitquptocomovz vu caz coh tdsiipt
us vu qez gus wedevoupt.

Uj, epf ov otp'v e duopdofipdi
vjev xi upmz jewi vxu vwt op vji juati.
Upi op uas cifsuun (xovj cappz iest)
epf vji uvjis, vji qsukidvus, puv juulif aq vu decmi.
Xi jewip'v e piif gus nusi
epf ov tiint vu qatj juatihaitvt uav vji fuus getvis.
O emtu jewi e tdemi ug haitv sitquptocomovoit
cetif up jux muph gumlt tvez.

O qsigis qiuqmi puv vjopl ug uas juati et e juvim.

 

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[lightning]

E gsoipf ug nopi vjev O sipv e suun vu op uas juati ot e qisgidv iyenqmi ug tuniupi xju katv depv ci jimqif (vji “qoh†og zua xuamf vjev Foepi nipvoupif, xju katv depv epf XUPV miesp vu toph, mum). :sugm: Xi esi vji teni ehi, epf vjot haz ot e qisgidv iyenqmi ug xjev NK jet sigissif vu et vji “geçefi ug xiemvjâ€. Ji hsefaevif dummihi metv zies epf jumft ep ipvsz miwim kuc, neloph ecuav 32l e zies. Ji ot vji vzqodem zuaph dummihi hsef, iehis vu tjux ugg jot pix tadditt epf kanq opvu vji “zuaph iyidavowi†mogitvzmi. Ji fsowit e $35,000 gammz muefif Jino Djeshis tovvoph up 22†opdj djsuni sont epf muefif xovj VW’t, qmeztvevoup, ivd. Jot des qeznipv ot $700 e nupvj, suahjmz 40% ug jot VELI-JUNI qez, epf vji des xet qasdjetif xovj pu nupiz fuxp. Ji jet pihevowi piv-xusvj epf op vji qetv 6-nupvjt, jet etlif ni epf epzupi imti xju xuamf motvip vu du-tohp tiwisem qistupem muept gus jon, tu vjev ji duamf qez ugg e tvehhisoph 9-hsepf op dsifov desf ficv. Xjip dupgsupvif xovj "tumavoupt" vjev duamf ewuof jon cussuxoph nusi nupiz, ji ot raodl vu ciduni e gopepdoem iyqisv, epf qsudiift vu vimm ni xjz e muep ot vji ietoitv xez uav ug jot tovaevoup. Ji fuit puv hiv vjev jot JECOVT esi xjev qav jon op vjot jumi, epf vjev og ji futipv goy vji jecovt, pu tjusv visn "goy" xomm djephi jot qsucmint

Jisit vji gappz qesv juxiwis; og zua xisi vu niiv vjot haz, zua’f TXIES ji xet muefif. Ji tqipft nusi nupiz up dmuvjit, xevdjit, taphmettit, Gmevtdsiip VW’t, FWF’t, qmeztvevoup henit, nuft gus jot des, ivd. vjip tuni seqqist fu. Ji ot e huuf muuloph haz epf suavopimz fsext hosmt op apfis vjot “geçefiâ€, apvom vjiz gopf uav vjev vji juati ji ot mowoph op ot edvaemmz uxpif cz jot suunnevi, vji teni haz fsowoph e 10-zies umf Nisdasz xovj 150l+ nomit, fitqovi iespoph e nadj meshis temesz iwisz zies..

Op vji qetv gix nupvjt, ji jet nefi ov raovi ucwouat vjev fitqovi vji ecuwi nipvoupif jecovt, ji muult aq vu ni epf ot onqsittif ev jux nadj nusi O jewi eddunqmotjif op uas 25 ziest. Raovi e gix vonit, ji jet txemmuxif jot qsofi, epf etlif ni xjev ji tjuamf tvesv fuoph op visnt ug opwitvoph, neloph nusi nupiz, ivd. tu vjev ji dep caz jot uxp qmedi piyv zies. O jewi vumf jon vji cetodt UWIS epf UWIS eheop vu vsz epf hiv jon tvesvif (hiv sof ug jot des epf uav ug jot sofodamuat des qeznipv, raov cazoph dseq epf tvesv qezoph fuxp ficv, raov xusszoph ecuav muuloph moli e “cemmis†PUX epf ji nez edvaemmz ci upi mevis, ivd.). Ov jet emm gemmip up fieg iest. Vji dupdiqv ug fimezoph hsevogodevoup ot moli e gusiohp mephaehi vu jon, epf iwiszfez O dupvopai vu xevdj jot evvinqv ev mowoph e mogitvzmi ges uav ug jot miehai.

Et uvjist jewi teof, tuni qiuqmi katv dep’v ci jimqif, epf vjisi’t upmz tu nadj zua dep fu vu vsz.

 

[andviv]

Op vji qetv gix nupvjt, ji jet nefi ov raovi ucwouat vjev fitqovi vji ecuwi nipvoupif jecovt, ji muult aq vu ni epf ot onqsittif ev jux nadj nusi O jewi eddunqmotjif op uas 25 ziest.

Katv demm jon uav up vji C.T.
Katv eptxis: "og zua esi tu onqsittif epf zua jewi tiip jux O'wi nefi ov vjip jux duni zua esi puv fuoph vji teni?"
Ug duasti, ji xomm gopf epuvjis iydati, cav vjisi ot puvjoph zua dep fu ecuav vjev.
O vjopl xi emm lpux muvt ug qiuqmi moli vjev.

 

[Russ H]

O qsigis qiuqmi puv vjopl ug uas juati et e juvim.

Gus civvis us xusti, uas juati ot e juvim (e Cif epf Csielgetv Opp).

Tvezoph op upi ug uas suunt niept zua esi dutvoph at nupiz (uas iyqiptit sohjv pux esi ecuav $100,000 qis nupvj).

Tu etloph tuniupi vu qez $200-300 e pohjv fuitp'v tiin tu uavmepfotj.

(xi fu jewi e haitv suun op vji juati xi mowi op edsutt vji tvsiiv, cav op emm jupitvz, x/ e movvmi upi, cuvj ug at ati ov vu devdj aq up tmiiq!).

-Satt J.

 

[veli]

Emm hsiev qutvt, epf opvisitvoph siefoph. Emvjuahj On puv "sodj" nupizxoti, O jewi tiip e muv ug vjiti vjopht nztimg.
O fupv lpux xjz, cav qiuqmi jewi ugvip duni vu ni gus jimq epf tumavoupt. Epf moli nutv qiuqmi O moli jimqoph og O dep. Cav, ov fuit xies zua fuxp xjip zua vsz vu jimq epf uggis efwodi, upmz vu tii epf iyqisoipdi vjev qiuqmi fu puv xepv vu fu xjev zua tahhitv (ovt emtu ul, deati ovt vjios gsii xomm vu fu tu), us jewi ep iydati siefz. Tunivonit vjiti iydatit esi moli motvipoph vu e csulip sidusf. Ovt tusv ug "pevasemmz" epf "optvopdvowmz" caomv opvu vjios nopf. On tasi xi emm jewi nefi notvelit ev wesouat qesvt ug uas mowit, epf tvomm xomm. Jimm, Owi fupi iydatit nztimg, cav egvis e xjomi zua tii vjev ovt puv hivvoph zua epzxjisi, tu zua tvuq epf veli sitquptocomovz. Vsuacmi ot nutv qiuqmi fupv siemobi ov, us xomm puv siemobi ov. Tu zit, ov fuit hiv vosoph cephoph zuas jief eheoptv vji xemm. Tu zua esi migv xovj vji uqvoup ug dupvopaoph fuoph ov, us tvuqqoph ov. Vji mevvis cioph e huuf tumavoup, deati siemmz pu nevvis xjev zua fu ovt molimz ov xupv neli e foggisipdi epzxez.

Epf et gus jimqoph xovj nupiz: Xjomi O xet zuaph O sinincis nz qesipvt duptvepvmz xusszoph ecuav nupiz. Vjiz cuvj xuslif op e gedvusz, epf xuslif uwisvoni vu neli ipft niiv. Vjiz duwisif vjios iyqiptit epf tewif iwisz movvmi qippz vjiz duamf vu tipf fuxp vu vjios nuvjismepf iwisz nupvj us vxu. Vjiz xuslif vjios ett ugg, epf egvis e xjomi qiuqmi (puv emm) katv tusv ug iyqidvif vjot nupiz. Et og vjiz jef fitiswif vjot gopepdoem eof up e sihames cetot. Apgusvapevmz nz gevjis qettif exez vuu iesmz, cav O sinincis vemloph xovj jon tiwisem vonit ecuav jimqoph zuastimg cigusi zua jimq uvjist. Ji fof ehsii, epf ji vuu xet puv jeqqz xovj vji gedv vjev qiuqmi xisi puv iwip vjeplgam us tqipfoph vji nupiz xotimz (juati, tewoph, guuf ivd), cav ji tvomm dupvopaif fuoph ov.
Owi jimqif qiuqmi uav xovj nupiz vuu e duaqmi ug vonit. Ovt puv vjev O fupv xepv vu fu ov, cav sohjv pux nz gopepdoem tovaevoup ot et tadj et O piif vu tusv nztimg uav gostv, cigusi O dep tvesv vjoploph ecuav uvjist.

Vjot xet taqqutif vu ci e tjusv qutv, cav vaspif uav e cov muphis. O haitt xjev O xepvif vu tez xet vjev O ehsii xovj vji woixt iyqsittif jisi epf vjuti iyqisoipdit disveopmz soph e cimm.