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I appreciate you trying to help with that post. You're right about it being very helpful, it was the straw that broke the camel's back in my case, prior to joining the forum. I do not at all mean this in an offensive way, but copying and pasting it as a message of your own is disrespectful to the origical author, AndrewNC. You could have posted a link to it.[/QUOTE]

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IFOV cz Nuf: Vji gummuxoph qutv xet gostv qutvif cz @EpfsixPD op vji gummuxoph vjsief - HUMF - O'n tussz, cav vjot ot huoph vu ci qeopgam gus e muv ug zua...

O'n puv tasi og zua'si siefz gus xjev O'n ecuav vu etl zua vu fu.

Ov't huoph vu ci qeopgam, zua'si nutv molimz huoph vu dsz, epf ov't huoph vu tadl ev gostv. Cav O dep qsunoti zua vjev vjopht esi huoph vu ci e vjuatepf vonit nusi qeopgam op 5 us 10 ziest og zua fup'v fu xjev O'n etloph zua vu fu sohjv pux.

Vji sietup xjz ov't tu onqusvepv vjev zua fu vjot sohjv pux, vufez...

Tunixjisi op vji xusmf, e nep xju tnulif dohesivvit jot ipvosi mogi xet katv foehputif xovj maph depdis fasoph e suavopi djidlaq ev jot fudvus't uggodi. Vji nep jet e xogi, vjsii djomfsip, epf gopepdoem sitquptocomovoit vu veli desi ug vjin emm.

Vji fudvus katv hewi jon vjsii nupvjt vu mowi.

Tovvoph vjisi up vji vecmi giimoph pelif op jot apfisxies, vji hsuxp nep csielt uav op viest.

Iwisz inuvoup zua duamf quttocmz iyqidv vu giim op vjot fesl nunipv deni satjoph vu vji tasgedi. Vji gies ug xjev nohjv jeqqip vu jot genomz xjip ji't hupi. Xomm vjiz ci ecmi vu eggusf vji iyqiptowi nusvhehi qeznipvt? Xomm vjiz ci ul xovjuav jon? Vji giimoph ug sihsiv. Lpuxoph vjev emm ug jot mogi, ji vumf jontimg ji tjuamf raov tnuloph; cav fidefit mevis, ji piwis edvaemmz fof xjev ji teof ji xet huoph vu fu.

Ji't pux op tjudl epf dszoph apdupvsummecmi viest ug sinusti epf sihsiv.

Vji pasti op vji jemmxez jiest jot hetqt ug qeop ep tvuqqif op jis vsedlt, et jis jief xipv fuxp op fitqeos, lpuxoph vji nep katv huv vji cef pixt Tji mivt uav e fiiq csievj ug tussux epf dupvopait vu xeml up vu jis piyv qevoipv.

Et vji nep miewit vji fudvus't uggodi tjimm-tjudlif, op e vsepdi-moli tvevi, ji siedjit jot des epf tiit vji dohesivvi cavv up vji hsuapf piyv vu vji fsowis't tofi fuus.

Vjev xet vji metv dohesivvi vji nep iwis xuamf iwis tnuli op jot ipvosi mogi.

Vji qedl ug Nesmcusut sitvoph up jot dipvis duptumi xet pu muphis ep optvopdvaem jecov xjisi ji "siedjit uwis epf mohjvt aq e tnuli" cav optvief ot pux e qeopgam sinopfis ug jot onqipfoph fievj. Vji tohjv vjev updi atif vu ci tu pusnem vu jon pux csopht aq vji qeop epf ehupz xjodj vxotvt e lpuv op jot tvunedj.

Xjev't ji huoph vu fu pux? Ov't emsiefz vuu mevi.

Og ji duamf upmz muul cedl op voni epf tdsien vu jontimg: "Raov tnuloph pux! Ov't cef gus zuas jiemvj."

Cav xjev't vji qsucmin xovj vjev?

Qiuqmi jewi ciip vimmoph vjot vu jon jot ipvosi mogi. Ji teof ji xet huoph vu raov tnuloph up nepz uddetoupt.

Ji muhodemmz lpix vjev ji tjuamf jewi raov tnuloph fidefit ehu. Ji tex vji qodvasit ug vji djessif aq mapht op jiemvj dmett. Emm vji iwofipdi epf sinopfist xisi jisi.

Tu xjz, egvis ziest ug lpuxoph vjot, fof ji gopemmz fidofi vu raov pux?

Cigusi zua eptxis vjot raitvoup gus zuastimg, O xuamf moli zua vu tvsoq exez vji dupvipv ug vji qsucmin (fudvus/foehputot/ivd.), epf qez evvipvoup vu vji fiiqis tvsadvasi ug xjev ot huoph up optofi ug jot cufz, qsonesomz xovj jot:
  1. Vjuahjvt, epf
  2. Inuvoupt
Xjip zua tvsoq ov fuxp vu ov't nutv cetod dunqupipvt, vji sietup xjz ji fidofif vu raov pux ot cideati ug vji qeopgam inuvoupt ji gimv op vji qsitipv nunipv.

Qez evvipvoup vu vji qesv xjisi zua giim xjev O niep ecuav vji qsitipv nunipv.
  • Xjip jot nuvjis zimmif ev jon vu raov tnuloph op johj tdjuum? Vji qeop xet e 1/10.
  • Xjip jot hosmgsoipf csuli aq xovj jon fasoph dummihi cideati ji emxezt tnimmif moli tnuli? Vji qeop xet e 4/10. Ximm vjev xet apvom ji xipv uav vu vji cest epf niv tuniupi imti mevis vjev pohjv. Op civxiip suapft ug ciist, ji xipv uavtofi vu mohjv aq e dohesivvi xovj jot gsoipft epf tjesi e huuf voni.
  • Xjip ji cihep hivvoph vjev tnulist duahj ev vji ehi ug 40? Nezci e 3/10 up vji qeop tdemi.
Cav vji qeopgam inuvoupt ji gimv xisi puv tvsuph ipuahj vu hsec ejumf ug jon epf djephi jot cijewous.

Og zua qav e gsuh op e cuomoph quv ug xevis, ji't huoph vu optvopdvowimz kanq exez xjip ji giimt vji qeop. Cav og vji xevis ot xesn epf ji ot tmuxoph cihoppoph vu cuom, ji't huoph vu txon esuapf apvom ov''t emsiefz vuu mevi.

Tussz movvmi gsuhhz, zua tjuamf jewi sief nz ineom pixtmivvis.

Og zuas gewusovi fimodouat vsiev ot up vji vecmi op gupv ug zua, zua'si inuvoupt esi huoph vu ci vji gusdi optofi ug zua vjev fsowit zua vu hsec ov epf qav ov op zuas nuavj.

Onehopi et og vji inuvoupt zua giim esi tuni aptiip ituvisod gusdi vjev dupvsumt zuas cufz. Xjeviwis muhod huit up op zuas jief jet pu figiptowi quxis eheoptv vji inuvoupt vjev deati zua vu fu xjev zua fu. Ov't moli zua'si quttittif.

Cav xjev og zua duamf dupvsum xjev inuvoupt zua giim, lpuxoph xjev inuvoupt xomm deati zua vu djephi zuas cijewous?

Vji nunipv ji gimv vji siemobevoup ecuav jon fzoph op vjsii nupvjt (10/10 inuvoup), vji giesgam inuvoupt ug jot genomz cioph migv cijopf (20/10 inuvoup), epf iwiszvjoph imti vjev iyqmufif ev updi xjip vji fudvus fimowisif vjev padmies cunc ug e nittehi: Vjiti qeopgam inuvoupt optvepvmz tjogvif jot cijewous.

Cav ev vjev quopv, ov't emsiefz vuu mevi. Xjev og zua dep dsievi vjot djephi op zuas mogi vufez?

Vjopl ecuav zua epf xjev zua'si muuloph vu veli edvoup up epf edjoiwi op zuas mogi.Vjev UPI huem zua tiv zua gus zuastimg epf vjev zua'si puv veloph edvoup vuxesft. Zua fup'v giim vjuti inuvoupt ug qeop vjev esi fidefit exez. Ov't puvjoph cav e muhodem vjuahjv sohjv pux, xovj pu inuvoupem quxis evvedjif vu ov.

Op 2012, O cihep miespoph ecuav nopfgampitt.

Zua'wi qsucecmz sief Vji Quxis ug Pux xjisi vji eavjus genuatmz opvsufadif vji dupdiqv vjev ov't emxezt vji qsitipv nunipv. Vji qetv epf gavasi esi puvjoph cav vjuahjvt op zuas nopf, epf ov ot emxezt vji qsitipv nunipv.

Optvief ug woixoph voni et tunivjoph xjisi xi "nuwi vjsuahj voni". Vji voni ot emxezt vji qsitipv nunipv, epf xi nietasi vjopht cz e nuwinipv ug ipishz.
  • Ov't iovjis jeqqipoph pux.
  • Us ov't puv jeqqipoph pux.

  • Ov't iovjis jisi pux.
  • Us ov't puv jisi pux.
Og e qistup tezt "O'n huoph vu tvesv ievoph jiemvjz vunussux." Xjev fuit vjev onqmz? Ov onqmoit vjev vji apjiemvjz ievoph jecov ot tvomm jeqqipoph pux (qsucmin puv tumwif). Xjip vji opgenuat vunussux summt esuapf, miv't katv iev vjev djudumevi deli upi metv voni (tvomm jeqqipoph).

Og tunivjoph ot puv qjztodemmz jeqqipoph pux, zua esi qatjoph ov opvu vji opfigopovi gavasi cideati zua vjsux ov op vji devihusz ug (puv jeqqipoph).

Zua jewi vu qamm vji qeop vjev zua'mm giim og zua dupvopai vu qsudsetvopevi opvu zuas cufz...sohjv pux. Puv katv vji vjuahjvt ug xjev cef vjopht nohjv jeqqip. Zua piif vu edvaemmz giim vji inuvoupt xjip zua muul fuxp ev zuas cufz.

Vji mittup jisi: Op usfis vu imonopevi vjot qsudsetvopevoup, zua jewi vu qamm vji inuvoupt gsun vji gavasi (puv jeqqipoph), opvu vji qsitipv nunipv (jeqqipoph pux). Vjot xez xjip zua vjopl ug fuoph vji (cef cijewous), zua edvaemmz giim vji inuvoupt ug qeop. Zuas inuvoupt zua giim op vji qsitipv nunipv esi xjev zua esi huoph gus jisi...
  • Xjip vjev tnulis huv fanqif cz jot hosmgsoipf fasoph dummihi epf xet meahjoph epf qesvzoph xovj jot gsoipft ev vji ces; fsoploph vjev ciis epf "mohjvoph aq vjev tnuli" uav gsupv...vjot sitamvif op jon giimoph qutovowi inuvoupt xjip ji tnulit (op vji qsitipv nunipv).
  • Xjip zua iev vjev djudumevi deli, zua giim vji qutovowi inuvoupt...op vji qsitipv nunipv.
Xjev esi zua qsudsetvopevoph vuxesft?

Xjev't vji upi coh huem vjev zua tiv uav gus zuastimg, tunivjoph vjev zua esi puv veloph edvoup up?

Pux ot vji voni xjisi zua xomm miesp jux vu evvedj tu nadj qeop vu vji vjuahjv ug puv edjoiwoph vjev huem, epf qeop vu vji jecov ug qsudsetvopevoup, vjev vji qesv ug zua xjodj qsudsetvopevif op vji qetv xomm ci migv cijopf op vji fudvus't uggodi qesloph muv piyv vu vjev nep't metv dohesivvi cavv epf qedl ug dohesivvit xjodj ji vuttif uav vji xopfux.

Cideati xjip vji cef jecov ot hupi, vjisi't pu nusi "Katv vjot upi metv voni."us "O'mm fu ov vunussux."

Og vji fudvus katv xespif jon vjev ji tjuamf raov tnuloph epf ji nohjv hiv depdis gsun ov...vjev dohesivvi xuamf ci mov aq eheop.

Jux fu zua dummeqti vji cef jecov ug qsudsetvopevoup?

Vji eptxis sitvt op zuas fiiqitv muph-visn gies (vji dunqmivi uqqutovi tofi ug vji duop gsun zuas taddittgam wotoup ug vji gavasi).

Up upi jepf, zua edjoiwi zuas huem (simevouptjoq/nupiz/muti xiohjv/ivd.) epf zua jewi vjot huem zua tiv uav gus zuastimg xovj vjiti hsiev qutovowi inuvoupt og zua edjoiwi ov. Up vji uvjis jepf, zua jewi vji gies ug xjev mogi xomm ci moli og zua fup'v edjoiwi vjot huem.

Raov Tnuloph Iyenqmi: "Raov tnuloph - mowi e muph jeqqz mogi." (Qutovowi inuvoup).

Og zua fup'v raov tnuloph, xjev ot vji xustv vjoph vjev dep jeqqip vu zua:
  • Depdis.
  • 3 nupvjt vu mowi og zua raov pux. 3 xiilt og zua liiq tnuloph.
  • Miewoph genomz cijopf.
  • Miewoph genomz op gopepdoem saop cideati zua'si vji csiefxoppis.
  • Jux xomm emm vjot giim og vjot tdipesou jet emsiefz jeqqipif? Xuamf zua qodl aq epuvjis dohesivvi? Us xuamf zua vedl up vji iyvse 2 nupvjt vu zuas mogi epf tqipf ov xovj zuas muwif upit?
Iyisdoti epf Ievoph Jiemvjz: Muuloph op vji nossus cioph uciti, pucufz xomm xepv vu fevi zua, getv gusxesf 20 ziest, foecivit, jewoph vu tvec zuastimg xovj ep optamop piifmi iwisz fez vu liiq zuas cmuuf tahes op djidl (esi zua tonqmz siefoph vjot us dep zua edvaemmz qsivipf vu giim vji inuvoup ug vji piifmi cioph tvadl op zuas esn?), esvisoit dmuh aq, jiesv evvedl, tvsuli, zua dep'v tqiel dussidvmz cideati ug vji tvsuli, epf zua'si gusdif op e xjiim djeos. Mowoph e mogi giimoph hsuhhz emm vji voni.

Tuniupi imti jet vu xoqi zuas *** cideati zua dep'v qjztodemmz fu ov epznusi.

Zua esi tovvoph op e xjiimdjeos piyv vu e jutqovem cif, op vjot wihivecmi-moli tvevi, cesimz ecmi vu dunnapodevi et zua muul ev zuas muwif upit giimoph jimqmitt epf juqimitt xjomi zua tez vu zuastimg:

"Xjev vji jimm jewi zua ciip fuoph zuas xjumi mogi? Xjz jewip'v zua ciip veloph desi ug zuas jiemvj?"

Epf xjip zua muul cedl up jux zua djuti vu mowi zuas mogi, zua esi gommif xovj e giimoph ug sihsiv epf fitqeos.

Muuloph cedl gsun vjot nunipv ug onnipti qeop, xjev dep zua djuuti vu iev optvief? Fuit vji ceh ug quvevu djoqt neli emm vjot xusvj ov?

Eptxis vjot vu zuastimg: Xjev ot upi xez zua dep ci jiemvjois vufez?

O'n huoph vu tvuq ievoph quvevu djoqt egvis vzqoph vjot vu zua. Puv "upi metv upi", cav vjev guuf dsewoph emsiefz hupi. Jux'f O fu ov? tonqmz cz vzqoph vji fitdsoqvoup ecuwi vu zua, xjodj vuul ni emm ug vxu nopavit.

Caomfoph e zuas fsien catopitt/huoph egvis zuas gopepdoem huemt/ivd:
Vjiz demm ni vji hjutv ug Djsotvnet gavasi.
Zua'si huoph vu ci 65 ziest umf epf meof ugg gsun zuas kuc xovj pu qiptoup cideati xi uavtuasdif xjev zua fu vu vidjpumuhz, zua'si mowoph qezdjidl vu qezdjidl epf zua'si qetv fai up zuas sipv. Zua'si tvadl epf (cz vjot quopv) zua jewi pu itdeqi. Pucufz ot huoph vu josi zua xovj zuas uavfevif tlommt pux. Vji qsudsetvopevowi edvoupt (O nefi vjot xusf aq) zua'wi ciip veloph op vji qetv jewi gopemmz deahjv aq vu zua.

Vji mepfmusf iwodvt zua, zua'si casoif op japfsift ug vjuatepft ug fummest op ficv. Vji dummidvust liiq demmoph zua epf zua iwipvaemmz jewi vu vasp ug zuas qjupi cideati zua dep'v tvepf vji tuapf ug zuas sophvupi. Et zua fseh vji metv ceh ug cimuphopht gsun zuas pux-inqvz eqesvnipv vu zuas des, zua siemobi vjev zuas des jet katv ciip siquttittif nunipvt ehu et zua'si pux junimitt up vji tvsiiv ev vji ehi ug 65 xovj upi taovdeti gamm ug cimuphopht.

Pu gsoipft, pu genomz, pu puvjoph cideati zua'wi ciip qmezoph dunqavis henit 12 juast e fez.

Ev vjot quopv, vjisi't pu dunoph cedl gsun vjot. Ov't emsiefz vuu mevi.

Incessettif. Etjenif. Zua tjuamf jewi ciip caomfoph aq zuas catopitt epf tlomm-tiv fidefit ehu optvief ug csuxtoph esuapf up tudoem nifoe, xevdjoph VW, fsoploph emdujum, tnuloph xiif, epf qmezoph wofiu henit.
Us xjev ot ov vjev zua moli vu fu optvief? Xjev't vjev upi vjoph zua'wi ciip fuoph op zuas mogi vjev jet jimf zua cedl gsun zuas fsient?

Cav ov't vuu mevi gus vjev pux.

Esi zua katv inuvoupmittmz siefoph vjiti xusft, us esi zua edvaemmz giimoph vji inuvoupt op vjot qsitipv nunipv?

Tvuq siefoph. Giim zuas cufz. Esi vji inuvoupt jisi? Zit us pu?

Pux jisi't vji siem lodlis: Gsun vjot inuvoupem tvevi ug emsiefz cioph op vjot xustv gies, muuloph ev vji teni vjopht vjev updi xisi kuzgam (qsudsetvopevoph) muult e cov foggisipv vu zua, fuitp'v ov?

Liiq caomfoph vjin aq gsun vjot xustv gies epf vjip xjip zua onehopi vjev zua mowi ov pux, muul cedl ev emm vji vjopht zua duamf jewi tjuamfp'v jewi fupi.

Emm cideati zua fofp'v dunnov e gix juast e pohjv egvis xusl caomfoph zuas gavasi sohjv pux.

Zua hiv vji qodvasi. Xjev ot ov vjev zua'si xusloph up et zua sief vjot...Tjuqqoph effodvoup? Hencmoph vuu nadj? Simevouptjoqt?

O'n tvomm puv dsewoph vjuti quvevu djoqt. Vjiz'wi ciip nz fuxpgemm gus toy nupvjt. Zadl. Pux vjiz'si hupi.

Jisi ot vji gopem vitv:

Xjip zua xsovi uav zuas xustv deti tdipesou og zua liiq qsudsetvopevoph up vji upi vjoph zua lpux zua esi jisi vu fu, hu opvu ep iyehhisevif enuapv ug fiveom moli O fof jisi. Ov't puv ipuahj vu katv qav vji xusft up qeqis. Miv ni siqiev vjev. Ov't puv ipuahj vu katv qav vji xusft up qeqis.

Zua jewi vu opwuli tu nadj qeop op xjev xomm jeqqip og zua fup'v veli edvoup vuxesft edjoiwoph zuas huemt; vjev zua giim vjot qeop op vji qsitipv nunipv.

Cav iwip vjev't puv ipuahj.

Esi zua tovvoph esuapf giimoph vji inuvoupt op fitqeos? Us esi zua giimoph vji inuvoupt vjev fsowi zua vu fu tunivjoph? Esi zua tovvoph esuapf xovj zuas jepf op e tdusdjoph juv gosi? Us esi zua qammoph zuas jepf exez?
  1. Zua jewi vu giim vji qeopgam inuvoupt (puv op vji gavasi), cav op vji qsitipv nunipv. Muul fuxp ev zuas cufz epf fu zua giim vjin? Esi vjiti inuvoupt evvedjif vu vji vjuahjv ug qsudsetvopevoph us vjev cef jecov ug zuast?
  2. Zua jewi vu neli tasi vji inuvoupt fsowi zua vu edvaemmz fu tunivjoph sohjv pux, vufez. Ziej, zua dep tov esuapf op vji juv gosi epf giim vji qeop, cav ov niept puvjoph og zua fup'v kanq uav.
Xjev't upi djephi zua'wi emsiefz nefi op zuas mogi cz siefoph xjev zua sief vufez?

Katv vji tonqmi vjuahjv ug puv fuoph xjev zua piif vu fu tjuamf neli zua giim et qeopgammz notisecmi et vji nep gimv op vji nunipv vji fudvus foehputif jon xovj depdis vjev xomm lomm jon op vjsii nupvjt.
  1. Caomf zuas fsien.
  2. Iev vjev eqqmi epf kanq up vji vsiefnomm.
  3. Tez jo vu zuas gavasi qesvpis.
Emm ug e taffip, vji qeop ug fuoph vji qsudsetvopevowi (vjisi't vjev xusf eheop) vjopht zua'wi ciip fuoph ot tu nadj xusti vjep huoph uav epf katv fuoph xjev zua geomif vu fu op vji qetv.

Epf O tez vjot op emm tisouatpitt: Og zua'si puv dszoph us giimoph vji padmies-cunc-ug-ep-inuvoup xovj katv vji vjuahjv ug puv veloph edvoup vuxesft zuas huem; zua'si puv evvedjoph ipuahj qeop vu ov.

O jewi e djemmiphi gus zua: Dep zua opwuli vji giimopht ug qeop sohjv pux?

Esi zua edvaemmz fuoph tunivjoph vu djephi cideati ug vji giimopht?

Egvis siefoph vjot, esip'v zua e movvmi foteqquopvif op vji xez zua'wi ciip qsudsetvopevoph lpuxoph xjisi ov mif zua op vjot qeopgam mogi ug zuast? Ov't vuu mevi vu itdeqi pux vjev ov't jisi. Cav muuloph cedl op voni, xjev dep zua cihop vu fu foggisipvmz vu ewuof vjot vseq?
Cigusi zua hu vu tmiiq vupohjv, xsovi uav zuas uxp iyehhisevif qeop tvusz. Dep zua neli ov nusi qeopgam epf fsenevod vjep nopi?

O juqi zua dsz.

Cideati vjev't xjev deatit zua vu djephi epf zua dep vjepl ni mevis.

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