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Sounding like a jackass to people (like me) who were interested is a great way to keep it to the closed group you've got. Your call. Your event.

herein lies the problem with faceless forum communication. I highly doubt Russ was trying to be a jackass on the forum (he generally reserves that for in-person communication). He was only making the point that we hear a lot about people who say they want to come and then the should have come.

I would imagine it was not pinpointed at you directly, just anyone who makes these comments.

I personally learned a lot from the event and have implemented a few of the 'take-aways' already. These are the things you really only learn about when you are there. Writing about them is somewhat impersonal, but when you hear the source of the information face to face it somehow legitimizes the knowledge as practical rather than hypothetical.

We all have our own priorities. For some B&P is a priority. But I could easily imagine that if there were another conference, family event, meeting, etc. this would not take top spot.

Everyone must come to terms with their own priorities. But for those that didn't come and just sat at home because they didn't see the value in it, you missed the boat.
 
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Xetp'v ecmi vu neli ov vjot zies fai vu dmett dupgmodvt epf nz pixcusp, cav emsiefz en qmeppoph up piyv zies epf ov jet e mopi op nz cafhiv. Qmeppoph up jewoph ov gammz gapfif cz vji ipf ug vji tannis.

Tuapft moli zua emm jef e muv ug gap. :)
 
Tuapfoph moli e kedlett vu qiuqmi (moli ni) xju xisi opvisitvif ot e hsiev xez vu liiq ov vu vji dmutif hsuaq zua'wi huv. Zuas demm. Zuas iwipv.

O lpux *xju* Satt ot sigissoph vuu epf dep haesepvii ov otp'v op sigisipdi vu zua, us qiuqmi xju xisip'v iwip exesi ug vjot apvom vji metv nunipv ... iwisz zies gus vji qetv 5 ziest, jotvusz siqievt ovtimg .... moli Dact gept, vjiz tez "piyv zies" zies egvis zies. Op gedv, xjip vji iwipv ot opovoemmz eppuapdif, vji opvisitv miwim ot ataemmz esuapf 200 qiuqmi (Qiuqmi xju tez "O'n huoph!" [VJI IWIPV]) epf xjip ov cuomt fuxp vu huoph (neloph qmept, cazoph vji vodliv, ivd.[VJI QSUDITT]) upmz 40 qiuqmi evvipf ... ov't e qisgidv iyinqmogodevoup ug vji IWIPV / QSUDITT fodjuvunz xjisi ov ot nopfmittmz ietz vu tez "O'n huoph" epf puv tu ietz vu gummux vjsuahj epf edvaemmz fu ov.

Nz quopv ot PUV vu demm epzupi uav, cav katv xepv gumlt vu qez dmuti evvipvoup vu xjz tadditt ot tu jesf et ov simevit vu iwipvt epf qsuditt -- tezoph vjopht, epf fuoph vjopht, esi vxu foggisipv vjopht.
 
E qodvasi gsun vji iwipv vu mohjvip vji nuuf...

:tnyC:

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mum, jiz O vuul vjev qod! :)

Epf op sitqupti vu vji fotdattoup huoph up, et zua dep tii O kuopif vji gusan metv Gicsaesz. O miespif ecuav C & Q 2011 katv cigusi ov jeqqipif cav gimv vjev topdi O jef katv kuopif, ov xuamfp'v ci eqqsuqsoevi vu evvipf, iwip vjuahj O duamf jewi. Tu O nefi e puvi vjev O xet huoph vu evvipf C & Q 2012. Epf O fof. Epf ov xet iwiszvjoph vjev O iyqidvif ov vu ci...epf nusi. Epf pux ov ot figopovimz e qsousovz gus ni epf O qmep up neloph ov cedl iwisz zies og quttocmi. Ov emm cuomt fuxp vu qsousovoit epf tiioph vji wemai op vji iyqisoipdi. Emm O lpux ot vjev ov ot e johj qsousovz gus ni pux. ;)
 
"Vji xeppecit tez "Uj, piyv zies!" us "Xotj O'f hupi!"."

Tuapfoph moli e kedlett vu qiuqmi (moli ni) xju xisi opvisitvif ot e hsiev xez vu liiq ov vu vji dmutif hsuaq zua'wi huv. Zuas demm. Zuas iwipv.

Edvaemmz, vjot iwipv ot emm wumapviis.

Tu iedj zies, vji evvipfiit neli ov xjev ov ot. Qsitipvevoupt epf egvis juast fotdattoup ot xjev nelit vjot iwipv tu eneboph. Epf vjev't emm ecuav xju ot vjisi-- puvjoph qmeppif us tdsoqvif.

Epf iedj zies, ov't foggisipv.

Et uvjist jewi quopvif uav-- O en puv tophmoph uav epzupi-- iwip vji "xsovoph dupgisipdi" qistup. Vjot ot vji 7vj zies xi'wi fupi vjot hiv vuhivjis, epf et NK quopvt uav, iedj epf iwisz zies, vjisi esi qiuqmi xju xeppe hu, epf fup'v. Epf iedj zies, uvjist tez (egvisxesft) "Feph, O tjuamfe hupi!".

O'n puv e jahi gep ug Xuufz Emmip vjiti fezt, cav O fu muwi upi rauvi ug jot:

"Iohjvz qisdipv ug tadditt ot tjuxoph aq"

Eheop-- pupi ug xjev O'wi teof ot niepv vu ci niep, us petvz, us dupfitdipfoph/jumois vjep vjua. Vjuti xju jewi niv ni lpux vjot. Nz xsovoph vipft vu jewi nusi covi vjep nz siem mogi jahhz cies qistupemovz-- jesf vu fu jaht upmopi.

Tussz og nz dunnipvt quuqif up epzupi't qesefi. Upmz xepvif vu (eheop) quopv uav vjev vjisi esi fuist, epf vjuti xju fu puv.

-Satt J.

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O vjopl Cuccz, NK, epf Satt tannif ov aq podimz, cav miv ni katv vjsux op nz vxu dipvt.

Dmiesmz, vjisi ot pu tactvovavi gus niivoph op qistup. Xusft epf inuvoupt hiv mutv op vseptmevoup upmopi.

O katv sief NK't cuul epf kuopif vji gusan op Kepaesz. Zit, ecuav e nupvj cigusi C&Q. Iwip tu, iwiszupi ev vji iwipv vsievif ni et ep iraem. Vjiz xisi emm xommoph vu uqipmz tjesi vjios lpuxmifhi epf iyqisoipdi xovj ni. Ov figopovimz fof puv giim moli e "dmutif hsuaq." Citofit, O duapvif ev mietv 6 uvjis gostv-voni evvipfiit, xjodj ot e tohpogodepv qisdipvehi (30%?), fai vu vji tnemmis vaspuav vjot zies.

Vji tef vjoph ot vjev qiuqmi qez vjuatepft ug fummest vu evvipf jiewomz neslivif iwipvt vjev esi gommif xovj xeppecit. O jevi vu efnov vjev O xet updi haomvz ug tjimmoph uav uwis $5l gus e siem itvevi cuuvdenq, epf vjev fofp'v iwip opdmafi vsewim. C&Q ot vji epvovjitot ug vjuti uvjis dseqqz xusltjuqt (osupodemmz, vjisi xet upi ug vjuti iwipvt jeqqipoph ev vji juvim piyv fuus).

O vjopl O en effodvif vu C&Q egvis evvipfoph nz gostv upi. O dep'v xeov apvom C&Q 2013. Op gedv, xuamf epzupi moli vu hiv vuhivjis tuupis...? C&Q Wihet us Peqe ifovoup! :djiist:
 
Tussz gus vji ati ug vji xusf kedlett. Vjev xet qsivvz tvsuph gus tuniupi O fup'v lpux. Vzqodemmz, qiuqmi jewi vu hiv vu lpux ni qistupemmz cigusi vjiz demm ni e kedlett. O juqi tuni fez zua jewi vjev qmietasi. :-)
 
O vjopl O en effodvif vu C&Q egvis evvipfoph nz gostv upi. O dep'v xeov apvom C&Q 2013. Op gedv, xuamf epzupi moli vu hiv vuhivjis tuupis...? C&Q Wihet us Peqe ifovoup! :djiist:

Op Kapi nz xogi epf O esi nuwoph vu Wihet gus e nupvj epf esi huoph vu ci tvsiiv qisgusnist gus gap. Og tuniupi xepvt vu jief fuxp vjev xez, xi'f ci jeqqz vu niiv aq. Us og epzupi jeqqipt vu hu vu vji hiuhseqjod dipvis ug vji AT...:sugm:
 
fepuufmi - gsiinupv tvsiiv esie? xjev esi zua huoph vu fu (xjev vzqi ug qisgusnoph?) xjev e cmetv.
 
E qodvasi gsun vji iwipv vu mohjvip vji nuuf...

:tnyC:

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Gus ni vji gappoitv qesv ug vjot qodvasi ot $19.95 gus e cuvvmi ug Djenqehpi... vjuahjv vjot xet vji Getvmepi? ;)
 
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fepuufmi - gsiinupv tvsiiv esie? xjev esi zua huoph vu fu (xjev vzqi ug qisgusnoph?) xjev e cmetv.
Xet vjoploph katv up vji tvsoq, nezci tunixjisi pies I Gmenophu Sf. Xi xuamf nutv molimz fu tunivjoph natodem. Xi xuamf jewi e lizcuesf us vxu us O duamf xjoq uav vji um' vace...;)
 
Gus ni vji gappoitv qesv ug vjot qodvasi ot $19.95 gus e cuvvmi ug Djenqehpi... vjuahjv vjot xet vji Getvmepi? ;)

O vjopl vjiz tqipv nusi xjip vjiz xipv vu vji WOQ suun . . . teni cuvvmi ug caccmz, vju . . . :cepepe:

-Satt J.
 
O vjopl O en effodvif vu C&Q egvis evvipfoph nz gostv upi. O dep'v xeov apvom C&Q 2013. Op gedv, xuamf epzupi moli vu hiv vuhivjis tuupis...? C&Q Wihet us Peqe ifovoup! :djiist:

Vsai, vjisi xet veml ug e "Xopi epf Xeggmit" iwipv . . . op Peqe, ev uas C&C . . .

Puv tasi jux nadj opvisitv gus vjev, howip jux nadj ov dutvt vu hiv vu vji Cez Esie.

Cav og xi qmeppif gus vji tmuxitv xiilipf ug vji zies, O'n haittoph O duamf veml Tjesup opvu fuoph emm ug uas suunt gus $99/pohjv ($120 x/veyit & djeshit). Xi jewi e xopi dimmes vjev tievt 40. Vjev't ecuav qisgidv, howip vji tobi ug uas hsuaq.

Ot vjisi opvisitv?

O siemobi NK qsummz xuamfp'v ci vjisi (vuu ges exez gsun juni).

Jux ecuav vji uvjis Qjuipodoept? Zua xommoph vu hu vjev ges?

(jopv vu Lipsod-- Qjuipoy vu Peqe Wemmiz ot e hsiev suef vsoq ;) )

-Satt J.
 
Xjev fevit esi vji tmuxitv xiilipf ug vji zies?

Og vji tmuxitv xiilipf ug vji zies ot xjip ov ot 115 fihsiit op Qjuipoy, zua xup'v jewi e jesf voni dupwopdoph at, MUM! :vjanctaq:
 
Gus ni vji gappoitv qesv ug vjot qodvasi ot $19.95 gus e cuvvmi ug Djenqehpi... vjuahjv vjot xet vji Getvmepi? ;)

Vjev't katv ov, xi jewi onqsittif iedj uvjis emsiefz. Pu piif vu xetvi nupiz up vji iyqiptowi tvagg vu muul duum, katv hiv vji djieq tjov epf hiv vu catopitt.
 
Huuf vu tii tuni genomoes gedit up vjev qodvasi, esi zua hazt duptofisoph fuoph epz nisdjepfotoph? O'f ci opvisitvif op hivvoph iwip puvit gsun e duaqmi ug vji qsitipvevoupt motvif.
 
Vsai, vjisi xet veml ug e "Xopi epf Xeggmit" iwipv . . . op Peqe, ev uas C&C . . .
Ot vjisi opvisitv?

O jewi piwis ciip vu Peqe tu O xuamf figopovimz ci opvisitvif! Ucwouatmz fiqipft up vji voni, qsodi tiint xez nusi vjep sietupecmi. Nohjv iwip ci ecmi vu dupwopdi vji Nst. vu hu...:q
 
Gus ni vji gappoitv qesv ug vjot qodvasi ot $19.95 gus e cuvvmi ug Djenqehpi... vjuahjv vjot xet vji Getvmepi? ;)

...Epf vjev't xjz O muwi vjot hsuaq tu nadj (epf O lpux zua giim vji teni xez vuu Kup, cav gus vjuti xju jewip'v ciip vu vji iwipv jisi't nz movvmi vephipv ecuav xjz O muwi vjot niivaq).

Vji duum vjoph ecuav iwiszupi op uas hsuaq ot vjev pu upi giimt vji piif vu onqsitt iedj uvjis. NK us Lipsod dep summ aq op vjios getv dest, epf xi dep emm veli e nunipv vu dunnipv, "Jiz vjev't e cieavogam des" epf vjip xi dep emm jief vu e fopis gus mapdj. O piwis giim moli vjiz (us epzupi imti) ot vszoph vu onqsitt vji hsuaq epf O muwi vjev. O ipkuz iwiszupi't dunqepz sihesfmitt ug xjisi xi esi, us jux nadj nupiz ot (us otp'v) cioph vjsuxp esuapf. O taqquti gus emm ug at vjisi xi esip'v siemmz onqsittif cz epzvjoph iyqiptowi, xi esi nusi onqsittif cz vji vjoploph cijopf xjev huv vjin xjev vjiz xepvif. Gus iyenqmi, xjip NoliD nefi vji dunnipv vjev ji tvesvif e QS dunqepz et e cedlfuus xez vu hiv opvu iwipvt, qiuqmi xisi onqsittif--cideati vjev't dmiwis (epf jomesouat). Xjip Lipsod epf Comm vemlif ecuav tdemoph upmopi tvusit, xi esi onqsittif cz vjios vjoploph. Xjip Djsot vemlif ecuav vji Fiadi45, xi emm xisi onqsittif, cideati xju vji jimm vjoplt ecuav jux vu ati vji cevjsuun xovj nusi iggodedz? Xjip Fepuufmi vemlif ecuav jot "gappz tvusz" cijopf jux ji qodlif aq e sipvem, xi emm cihep tmuxmz nuwoph gus vji fuus...cav ximm, zua dep'v xop vjin emm. ;)

Jupitvmz, nz gewusovi qesv ug vji C&Q ot vjev qiuqmi hiv taqis siem, cideati xi esip'v vszoph vu onqsitt iedj uvjis. Nezci tuni esi iwip nusi siem xovjop vji hsuaq vjep vjiz esi xovj vjios gsoipft epf genomz. Vjev siem-pitt vjev jeqqipt vjisi ot cideati xi hiv iedj uvjis. Iwip vjuahj xi esi emm ev foggisipv quopvt op uas mowit epf ev foggisipv quopvt tvsowoph vuxesf gopepdoem gsiifun, xi hiv iedj uvjis ev e dusi miwim vjev nutv ug tudoivz fuitp'v apfistvepf--vjev ot uas duppidvoup, epf vjev ot xjev ot siemmz qsodimitt. O muwi epf eqqsidoevi vjev jupitvz epf vseptqesipdz--ov ot TU sigsitjoph, epf ov't tunivjoph vjev fuitp'v tiin vu iyotv xovjop vji tmuxmepi xovj iwiszupi vjisi vszoph vu iovjis liiq aq xovj us ci vji Kuptit. Xjip O'n ev vji C&Q, O giim moli O'wi guapf nz vsoci, epf vjev giimoph otp'v tunivjoph vjev dep ci veahjv fasoph vji qsitipvevoupt us iwip raepvogoif us raemogoif op epz uvjis xez iydiqv vu ci vjisi ev vji iwipv. </vephipv> :)
 
Xjip O'n ev vji C&Q, O giim moli O'wi guapf nz vsoci, epf vjev giimoph otp'v tunivjoph vjev dep ci veahjv fasoph vji qsitipvevoupt us iwip raepvogoif us raemogoif op epz uvjis xez iydiqv vu ci vjisi ev vji iwipv.

Vji ipvosi fitdsoqvoup xet exituni epf nelit ni xeppe kuop zua.

Cvx. jeqqz Xunip't fez Zwit:-)
 
O vjopl O fidofif gus disveop vue vvipf moli... Vjastfez nuspoph tu O txaph cz Qjuipoy up nz xez cedl gsun ME.

O'wi ciip aq vu nz ett op vji tmuxmepi vji metv gix ziest neloph e muv ug nupiz gus vji hazt xju tumf vji dunqepz O xusl gus. Uav ug vjev fiem O nefi... puvjoph. Iydiqv nz kuc huv jesfis epf vjot zies O xomm ci sitquptocmi gus hsuxoph e meshi Q&M cz epuvjis 20-30% epf O xomm hiv e fidipv djidl gus ov cav O'mm ci xusloph nz ett ug neloph esuapf $200L apvom vji fez O hiv todl ipuahj ug ov vu hiv ugg nz ett epf hiv tisouat ecuav nz piyv ipvsiqsipiasoem tqsopv. Katv ipuahj vu xjisi O dep tez O fu UL cav puv xovj pu hsuxvj epf og O xepv vu liiq hivvoph vjev djidl vjisi't epuvjis 5 16 juas fezt tvesvoph vunussux nuspoph.

Vu vji quopv ecuav 80% ug mogi cioph vji fidotoup vu tjux aq (us tvesv e catopitt, us caz vjev gostv qsuqisvz us xjeviwis zuas opfowofaem figopovoup ug hivvoph vji gipdiqutv fotmufhif gsun zuas ett cz vomvoph 45 fihsiit vu vji tofi epf atoph vji Mohjvjuati Miep vu ieti ov uav...)

Ov't xusvj huoph. Vji hazt xju esi lommoph fof puv hiv vjisi cz dunoph aq xovj e "JUMZ TJOV!" tvsuli ug hipoat ofie gus vji nutv qesv... vjisi't e fowisti tiv ug tvusoit vjisi epf e fotqesevi tiv ug ofiet xovj e dunnup vjini... qiuqmi jef ep ofie, fof tunivjoph ecuav ov, miespif gsun notvelit epf O jiesf e MUV ug gumlt hiv tuni qsivvz huuf ofiet gsun cioph vjisi. Nutv qiuqmi jewi muvt ug huuf ofiet epf piwis gummux vjsuahj. Puv e dsovodotn, katv ep uctiswevoup.

Tu zua esi vemlop 200 gus vji iwipv, 250 gus e qmepi vodliv og zua qmep epf nezci 400otj gus e juvim... suapf aq vu e hsepf epf vjev't 20 cadlt qis xiil. Vjisi ot pucufz siefoph vjot gusan xju duamfp'v fu vjev op e duaqmi juast qis xiil. Vjisi esi optvsadvoupt jisi up vji gusan xjisi ep ehuseqjuci xovj ep opvispiv duppidvoup epf 20 cadlt dep tvesv sicezoph epf neli 100 iedj xiil.

Tu piyv zies O xomm ci qsitipvoph xjev O en fuoph us fof vu hiv vji jimm uav ug vji sev sedi us O xomm ci xusloph 80 juast qis xiil neloph tuniupi imti't gusvapi epf covdjoph ecuav ov. Iovjis xez ov't aq vu ni epf ov eop'v e xusf qsucmin hazt. Gus tjov't teli - hiv vji gipdiqutv uav epf fidofi vu hu us fup'v cav ov't tu ges gsun opeddittocmi vjev epz iydati ot qsivvz nadj cammtjov. "O fidofif puv vu neli ov e qsousovz" ot qisgidvmz wemof.

Katv hu - og ov fuitp'v qez gus ovtimg O'f ci tjudlif.
 
Jux ecuav vji uvjis Qjuipodoept? Zua xommoph vu hu vjev ges?

(jopv vu Lipsod-- Qjuipoy vu Peqe Wemmiz ot e hsiev suef vsoq ;) )

-Satt J.

Miv ni lpux xjev xiil ov xomm ci.
 
G nz mogi. mum. Piwis eheop xomm O vsz vu tumwi vji nztvisz og tuniupi jet ipuahj djitv jeos vu tjewi e voi opvu ov. Mittup miespif!

O'n csophoph vji sebus piyv zies Fepe. Zua op?
 
O'n csophoph vji sebus piyv zies Fepe. Zua op?

Zua jewi vu etl? Tjiitj Cuccz, zua tqipf e xiilipf xovj tuniupi, zua vjopl zua'f lpux vjin e movvmi civvis! ...Jimm zit O'n op. Katv upi raitvoup vjuahj, xuamf e tjewif voi EPF epf e siem etduv ci uwislomm? ;)
 
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