Andrew Tate Banned? A prime example of the Commandment of Control

[MJ DeMarco]

I need a TLDR; I'm not going to watch a bunch of videos. Sounds like a lot of great, free publicity for someone who thrives on it.

 

[MitchC]

 

[MJ DeMarco]

I know nothing about this guy except from the aforementioned here, but based on the responses I've read, he sounds like the trifecta love child of the early 2000s Victor Pride, Tucker Max and Tai Lopez. Accurate? (Sorry, I'm not going to spend an hour of my life researching some social media persona).

 

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[Simon Angel]

You might spend a little to much time on this than what’s good for you

Young impressionable males who lacked a strong father figure while growing up are his target audience. He has a way of reeling them in, like a cult leader.

 

[doster.zach]

I need a TLDR; I'm not going to watch a bunch of videos. Sounds like a lot of great, free publicity for someone who thrives on it.

He was a “red pill” guy, with an affiliate marketing business. Basically getting paid for other people to cut up his controversial content and repost it so that would get people to signup for his platform earning him and the affiliate money.

Good day fellas,

I just wanted to share this important lesson with you. Recently, a guy named Andrew Tate got banned from all social media platforms like TikTok, YouTube, Instagram and FB. And the guy had a huge reach. He had two big YouTube channels like TateSpeech(with about 770k subscribers) and Tateconfidential(with around 326k subscribers). And a huge Instagram account with almost 4 million followers.

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This just goes to show how f*cked up society is today and what MJ and Andrew said about the matrix and elitism is real, especially in the west + it proves MJ's business commandments even more. The point is; ALWAYS BE IN CONTROL OF YOUR BUSINESS otherwise you're taking a huge risk for your business. This is a warning to a lot of you. I see a lot of people here who want to start Amazon FBA, YouTube, a FB marketing agency or whatever AND then this happens! The media are a one controlled entity and can wipe your a$$ clean with one click.

Check it out for your self. Some other screenshots I took from today:

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EDIT:
Reason why he got banned. Sums it all up.
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You might spend a little to much time on this than what’s good for you

 

[eliquid]

Is it really a lack of control though?

I tell my kids and wife that there are 2 sets of "rules" in life.

Yours, and everybody else's.

You have to know how to play the game of life by both sets of rules.

If you don't know the "rest of the world's rules", or you don't know your own.. then this is what happens maybe.

Having 100% control of 0 is a waste. Which is what this man would have got seeking out control.

Giving up control is what got him all his followers and success.

Now, it is largely gone since his affiliate's reposting stuff is going to largely be shut down too. So bye bye new members.

He better hold on to that email list as long as he can.

He never owned the full supply chain, so he will never have 100% control. And when you live in that kind of world you have to play by everyone else's set of rules and you better know them well.

 

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[Xeon]

Anyone doing redpill ideology is good. I haven't watched or read any of Tate's stuff, but I already know it's the sort of thing I'll champion just by the mere mention of "redpill". The world needs redpill ideology now to counter woke culture.

"Good afternoon, I'm Kamara Harees, VP of Acme Corp. My pronouns are xe/xir and I identify as a wooden squirrel. I'm now in the room wearing a brown suit and talking."

 

[Dark Water]

There is no hole that needs to be filled for young men due to "woke culture."

You can practice stoicism, red pill ideology, and still be on your journey while still respecting woke culture. Using the cashier's proper pronoun as you checkout of the grocery store doesn't hold you back from pursuing the things you want to do and it's going to make them feel better and make everyone's life easier. If woke culture is living rent free in your head and bothering you, then you really aren't as stoic or red pill as you think you are.

Masculine role models are everywhere and you don't need to pay $50 a month to access a derivative version of their thoughts, neatly packaged and characterized to feed your addictive consumption habits. Sure, not all families have masculine men at the helm but not all families need that. Society doesn't need that.

There's a guy at my gym, probably in his 40s, local mechanic. F*cking jacked, big beard, doesn't talk to a lot of people. Methodical, lifts heavy, does his stuff, and gets out. You are going to learn more by being in the presence of people like that than you are purchasing from grifters like Tate. And guess what? It doesn't cost a dime to work out next to him, or even ask a question about something you are unsure about.

There are men who are pursuing a larger purpose in life and men that get rich off of selling other men the dream. The latter is the likes of Andrew Tate, RSD Tyler, Victor Pride, etc. Sure, they have worthwhile opinions to hear, just like any man in his 30s or 40s should that has been on his journey. The difference is most men aren't productizing that and selling it to the vulnerable 18-25 year crowd who haven't yet experienced life and therefore take their sales mask at face value.

The former is the likes of Dwayne Johnson, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Steve Jobs, etc. Here, I'll link you some actual content that you can watch (for free) from the real "top G's" who aren't intrinsically motivated by your wallet.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkUwurJVnDk&ab_channel=MulliganBrothers

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y85_muzKuI0&ab_channel=MulliganBrothers

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tuw8hxrFBH8&ab_channel=MotivationArk

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyhOmBPtGNM&ab_channel=YoanBarouk

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxBQLFLei70&ab_channel=TexasExes

 

[Simon Angel]

His whole shtick is being perceived as this hypermasculine male. And that's fine, we all need more of that considering being a man nowadays is almost considered a crime in itself.

Do I agree with his business practices? No.

Do I think he should be banned? Well, it does say he's being investigated for human trafficking. Aside from that, no.

But I really wish the Internet would stop throwing his name in my face every time I use YouTube, Reddit, etc. I'm pretty sure the only content I've seen of this guy is 1-2 YouTube shorts talking about stuff I realized when I was 17.

 

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[Johnny boy]

His followers make tons of accounts and post his content anyways. Pretty cool system. Makes you think about how to apply that to your own thing, where you can get other people join you in a way outside of social media (telegram, texting, email), and then spread your content to them through those channels you can't really be banned from, then they can spread it with their own channels.

It's foolish to think you can spread any type of important truth online and not be shut down almost instantly. Feel free to spread the unimportant truth all you want. Feel free to spread lies all you want too.

If he doesn't get completely ended by this though, he will simply be blocked as a merchant so his payment processor for his hustler's university won't work. He would have to start accepting crypto as payment.

I will never share my opinions online with an obvious connection to my real business, real name, etc. Nor will I try to gain any online following of any kind sharing any real truth or opinions. Anything important you can say is just not allowed, so do not waste your time.

You have to build something in the real world.

I would love to someday work on some infrastructure that decentralizes control on a massive scale. Communication, transportation, defense, or finance related. Whatever is most possible and accessible at that time for me to work on. People need to be able to do things without the ABILITY to be shut down. Rights that are not secured from a temporarily benevolent government, but by systems that make regulating them impossible. People free to communicate without being banned, travel without being restricted, defend themselves with weapons regardless of law, and transact with whoever they want to without being restricted. Websites that can't be shut down. Businesses that can't have their cash flow shut off. The ability to operate anonymously. Fully operational military grade machine guns printed for dollars that cannot be traced or stopped with legislation. Where the government is PISSED they can't control you. And even the mindless, uneducated voter won't be able to screw you over. Convenient and practical systems that exist outside of anyone's control. Unless that is the reality, your opinions and votes are just going into a garbage can painted as a suggestion box.

 

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[Guest050x2]

It's strange to me how some of these responses defend him, especially for an entrepreneurship forum. Y'all preach independent thought, being a "good person that provides value," etc. Some of you claim he's "a masculine man."

Look, some of his thoughts/views are reality for men. I'll give him that. The vast majority of his content ultimately boils down to being so insecure and inadequate his existence had to turn into a walking dick-measuring contest to feel any type of happiness. You can be a masculine, conservative "manly-man" without having a borderline god complex, and/or being an outright cunt.

I can't recall how many times I've seen someone here say (paraphrased, of course), "what's the point of being rich if you had to F*ck people over/make people feel shitty to achieve it."

Everything being said, from a business standpoint, he simply needed to play better politics.

As someone else here said, "There's YOUR rules and then there's SOCIETY'S rules." Unfortunately you need to balance both.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

I know nothing about this guy except from the aforementioned here, but based on the responses I've read, he sounds like the trifecta love child of the early 2000s Victor Pride, Tucker Max and Tai Lopez. Accurate? (Sorry, I'm not going to spend an hour of my life researching some social media persona).

He's really not that important. People have their panties in a wad because he said some really rude, offensive stuff (yes, lots of it actually) but that certainly shouldn't warrant mass censorship if you believe in free speech at all or have an adult-level understanding of the internet.

However, his whole business is a massive scam/racket that depends on creating an army of affiliates to repost his content en masse... Which spread his diatribes everywhere like a virus... And is likely the real reason for the bans.

 

[K1 Lambo]

Human trafficking pimp who used girls as cam girl vending machines. Yes platforms have control. They also have laws against goddamn F*cking dregs of society. The ONLY reason this person recieved any fame is he convinced idiots to pay to re-share his own words like a cultist priest of the microdickums snot empire. it was a echo chamber of creeps and incels. he was kicked off platforms and I refuse to spend another picosecond thinking about him or his acultish, peter piper creepy pipe fiddling, "oh I'll move to another country where I can abuse people easier" ways.

It never ceases to amaze me how brave people are behind a computer screen, yet I'm sure if you met him in person, you'd never say these things to his face because being brave in front of a computer and being actually brave are two totally different things.

If spreading positive messages about being more masculine as a man, fixing guy's problems with understanding females and building wealth are a bad thing(which is all Andrew does), then why are you on this forum in the first place?

To sum it up, I've never met a very successful guy who hates on other very successful individuals. And that seems to be true 99.999% of the time.

 

[Devilery]

It never ceases to amaze me how brave people are behind a computer screen, yet I'm sure if you met him in person, you'd never say these things to his face because being brave in front of a computer and being actually brave are two totally different things.

If spreading positive messages about being more masculine as a man, fixing guy's problems with understanding females and building wealth are a bad thing(which is all Andrew does), then why are you on this forum in the first place?

To sum it up, I've never met a very successful guy who hates on other very successful individuals. And that seems to be true 99.999% of the time.

Both of you are equally correct just isolating clashing pieces of information. Andrew Tate is both a Top G and a massive POS, in either case, there's a ton to learn "from him" aka not joining his university but implementing his strategies in your own vision.

Overall, he doesn't really care about any of his followers, but most of his insights are based on legit concepts, however, he loves adding controversy to everything he says for the polarization effect.

So instead of being a boring old philosopher who says: "Tough time creates strong men...", he says: "Drop me in Alaska, and in 2 days, I'll knock your down with 5 bit*hes and Cadillac on your garden." It's the same thing but more resonating with 16-year-olds.

 

[Beebop27]

I know nothing about this guy except from the aforementioned here, but based on the responses I've read, he sounds like the trifecta love child of the early 2000s Victor Pride, Tucker Max and Tai Lopez. Accurate? (Sorry, I'm not going to spend an hour of my life researching some social media persona).

Will try to summarise, if it hasnt done so already

1. BACKGROUND

The guy suddenly appeared on EVERYONE's 'For You' page on Tic Tok.
And I mean EVERYONE's.

He would say controversial and 'shock value' statements to provoke engagement, thus perfect for the Social Media algorithm.

His father was a grandmaster chess player (which will come relevant in point 3)

2. HOW HE DID IT

He has multiple businesses which are borderline shady (ie. webcam girls, duping rich guys out of thousands), but one of these is "Hustlers University".

A $50 / month subscription which is full of courses such as crypto investing, dropshipping, etc.

Part of this "University", is the War Room. Basically a 'members only' area where by they talk and shoot shit and share ideas. From what I have heard this 'Hustlers University", is an affiliate program, so he has sent out all his minions to spam his content across all platforms which is a funnel for his 'university', which brings him followers (and millions a month).

3. THE OVER ARCHING PLAN

He sees himself as a chessmaster. This 'blow up' of his and getting cancelled is part of his 3-step plan to 'dominate the world'.

I haven't figured out step 3, but I think I can guess it. The strategy is as follows:

Step One:

Get all members from the war room to spam all areas of social media with his content. In return he gets new members and the people who spam get money from those who join the 'university'.

Part of this step is to build a loyal fan base. He has accurately seen that there is indeed a lack of male role model figures within society, and also a bunch of rebellious 18 to 25 year old males (his target audience), who will rally with him.

So step one, will build his fan base.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XAjqhSSmAc



Step Two:

He accurately predicted that he would eventually get cancelled, from his outrageous statements. He is trolling people to get the social media algorithm to work for him. He wants to cause controversy and get people emotionally charged, for as he says, 'once you can get someone emotionally charged from what you say..... you control and own them'.

So it was his intent to get cancelled.

And in fact cancelling him has now made him a martyr to his fan base. Ie. they will become more loyal.

The next step is to move to an alternative social media platform.

This is called "Rumble".

He (before he implemented this plan), has stocks / investment in this company and with him leaving to Rumble, he also took his fan base with him.
I think within two months of joining Rumble he has over 500k fans / subscribers, and Rumble stock has risen extensively

Step Three:

Nothing public has been said about 'step three', but he predicts he will come the good guy again.

I think he is trying to take on the big social media companies, while building a fan base and amassing a huge fortune.

4. CONCLUSION

For what its worth, here's my 2 cents.

He definitely has audacity, boldness and courage for saying some of the shit he does. He talks about 'the matrix', which is basically referring to institutions keeping you bogged down and their slave and 'owning and controling' you. This is what MJ also shows us how to break free from, but in a more grounded and practical approach.

Yet to demonize institutions as a whole shows a complete lack of understanding of democracy, the west and capitalism. Values and systems which many in the west have fought hard for.

My concern with him is that he is using phycological and social tactics similar to cult leaders. Cults leaders claim they are the saviour / the only person who can free you or fullfill that void inside of you, yet (and one usually only finds about this until the end), that it was in fact all about them... and you were just a tool... all the followers were just tools to fullfill one man's selfish needs and desires.

Another issue I have, is that ... just the fact that I am typing about him, means I am also playing into his game. More engagement, more, more, more..

 

[Kevin88660]

Good day fellas,

I just wanted to share this important lesson with you. Recently, a guy named Andrew Tate got banned from all social media platforms like TikTok, YouTube, Instagram and FB. And the guy had a huge reach. He had two big YouTube channels like TateSpeech(with about 770k subscribers) and Tateconfidential(with around 326k subscribers). And a huge Instagram account with almost 4 million followers.

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This just goes to show how f*cked up society is today and what MJ and Andrew said about the matrix and elitism is real, especially in the west + it proves MJ's business commandments even more. The point is; ALWAYS BE IN CONTROL OF YOUR BUSINESS otherwise you're taking a huge risk for your business. This is a warning to a lot of you. I see a lot of people here who want to start Amazon FBA, YouTube, a FB marketing agency or whatever AND then this happens! The media are a one controlled entity and can wipe your a$$ clean with one click.

Check it out for your self. Some other screenshots I took from today:

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EDIT:
Reason why he got banned. Sums it all up.
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When someone builds something, that could be perceived as misogynist, getting banned is just a matter a time.

Why would any platform wants to offend half of its users?

 

[Boy Muhammad]

Well, maybe is about time Tate create his own social network.

 

[K1 Lambo]

Good day fellas,

I just wanted to share this important lesson with you. Recently, a guy named Andrew Tate got banned from all social media platforms like TikTok, YouTube, Instagram and FB. And the guy had a huge reach. He had two big YouTube channels like TateSpeech(with about 770k subscribers) and Tateconfidential(with around 326k subscribers). And a huge Instagram account with almost 4 million followers.



This just goes to show how f*cked up society is today and what MJ and Andrew said about the matrix and elitism is real, especially in the west + it proves MJ's business commandments even more. The point is; ALWAYS BE IN CONTROL OF YOUR BUSINESS otherwise you're taking a huge risk for your business. This is a warning to a lot of you. I see a lot of people here who want to start Amazon FBA, YouTube, a FB marketing agency or whatever AND then this happens! The media are a one controlled entity and can wipe your a$$ clean with one click.

Check it out for your self. Some other screenshots I took from today:



EDIT:
Reason why he got banned. Sums it all up.
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EDIT:
His brother also got shadowbanned on Instagram(shadow ban means your content will no longer be visible to others on someone's feed, you can't even find him unless you type his full IG username talismantate. The matrix is real).

 

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[Black_Dragon43]

Just one podcast before Tate got banned, he entered into politics, attacking the Biden administration and saying how he’s free from government control with multiple passports.

It seems like a fly just got squashed because it didn’t know its place, in a coordinated effort by all social media giants, including the Chinese (Tik Tok). “Final Message” is a PR stunt, don’t come after me, I’ll be a good boy now, learned my lesson he he

 

[The Sandman]

True, but in reality, a controversial group of people who have taken full control (and are overrepresented in the financial industry and hollyweird) are entirely responsible for America's downfall...

What exactly are you saying here?

 

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[TonyStark]

It never ceases to amaze me how brave people are behind a computer screen, yet I'm sure if you met him in person, you'd never say these things to his face because being brave in front of a computer and being actually brave are two totally different things.

If spreading positive messages about being more masculine as a man, fixing guy's problems with understanding females and building wealth are a bad thing(which is all Andrew does), then why are you on this forum in the first place?

To sum it up, I've never met a very successful guy who hates on other very successful individuals. And that seems to be true 99.999% of the time.

You are the poster child Andrew Tate seeks to profit off of

 

[SEBASTlAN]

His main sources of income were not from IG, YouTube or TikTok, so the commandment of control doesn't apply here at all...

 

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[MattR82]

He's said some things that go totally against the agenda of the elites, a lot of his content went mainstream on YouTube and so on. Point is, both of you have a pretty similar world view when it comes to business and this whole red pill kind of awareness.

He's spot on 99% of the time with what he says with elitism, matrix, making money fast and being the leader in your life.

Yet MJ hasn't been banned from all social media. Maybe they're not as similar as you think, lol.

As much as I find Tate an annoying tool, I'm against this kind of deplatforming. I don't think we're really missing out on much though.

 

[Anon3x156]

He got banned after he made multiple million dollars. He got banned because his opinions were too extreme.
He got banned because he kept talking about politics. I don't think any normal business would do these things online.
Avoiding doing business on platforms just to stay in control doesn't always make sense to me. If you're seeing an opportunity, not going for it just because you don't have 100% control over it isn't really smart imo. Having control of nothing doesn't mean anything. But if you have a business idea that you'd have 100% of the control, go for it. Also if you're going to do a business that you don't have full control over, calculate your risks and if you're going to invest your money, invest it smartly.

 

[Equilibrium]

Human trafficking pimp who used girls as cam girl vending machines. Yes platforms have control. They also have laws against goddamn F*cking dregs of society. The ONLY reason this person recieved any fame is he convinced idiots to pay to re-share his own words like a cultist priest of the microdickums snot empire. it was a echo chamber of creeps and incels. he was kicked off platforms and I refuse to spend another picosecond thinking about him or his acultish, peter piper creepy pipe fiddling, "oh I'll move to another country where I can abuse people easier" ways.

 

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[Mathuin]

Lots of tweets with #FreeTopG, crazy how he went from only a small portion of Twitter knowing him to being a household name in a matter of months

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1562626137674874880

View: https://twitter.com/ClaudeUlt/status/1562626137674874880?s=20&t=WpUjq1N2K0jjCbfu0z-5iQ

 

[loop101]

Human trafficking pimp who used girls as cam girl vending machines.

Was he convicted of these things? Of anything?

 

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[Kevin88660]

It never ceases to amaze me how brave people are behind a computer screen, yet I'm sure if you met him in person, you'd never say these things to his face because being brave in front of a computer and being actually brave are two totally different things.

If spreading positive messages about being more masculine as a man, fixing guy's problems with understanding females and building wealth are a bad thing(which is all Andrew does), then why are you on this forum in the first place?

To sum it up, I've never met a very successful guy who hates on other very successful individuals. And that seems to be true 99.999% of the time.

Andrew’s playbook is being a more extreme version of Jordan Peterson, who pretends to teach things, but actually gains popularity from the fanbase through antagonizing feminism.

Jordan Peterson was the “proof of concept”. Andrew is the one who has more balls to carry it to the next level. “Look I dare to say sheets that the professor is too scared to say. Now you shall follow me instead and be my fanbase”.

The crowded wanted someone to throw punches at feminism because they themselves are too scared to do so. So Andrew is playing the role until he becomes a martyr (inevitably).

The whole thing is just a game. And soon there will be a more extreme version of Andrew saying more crazy stuff. Growing the fanbase at such a short period of time is just too attractive.

 

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[Prince33]

"To determine the true rulers of any society, all you must do is ask yourself this question: Who is it that I am not permitted to criticize?" - Kevin Alfred Strom

 

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