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Anyone prep for collapse? Your life contingency plans...[Doomsday Prepping]

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Okay, so I know next to nothing about preparation for this kind of stuff. But I do know what I need to live. Food, water, shelter, protection, companionship.

Let's assume that doomsday = no money works any longer. The dollar crashed, the euro crashed, the yuan crashed, all of it crashed, and now anyone involved with a bank has been either executed or is being looked for to be killed. Nobody trusts governments anymore and law enforcement has given up. We still have all our medical and technological knowledge, though, but nobody is doing research anymore since nobody is being compensated. Nobody even trusts the idea of money anymore. Many people have killed themselves because working is pointless and so is running a business. Those who still work and run business get paid in food and water. The richest people are those who have excesses of food and water and can afford to buy protection and better homes. The Internet still works, electricity is still running if you know how to connect to it 'illegally', and water still runs (although nobody cares for it anymore so it's dirty and diseased). Refineries have shut down and gold and silver are now worthless since you can't buy food with it, despite efforts of silver and gold investors to make those into currency.

So that's essentially the situation. It might not get that bad, but let's assume that it does.

Food: I'm not all for the idea of growing my own food. Sure, I'll grow peppers and tomatoes and such since they aren't difficult to grow in a small space. I also don't really want to hunt. I know there are people who are much, much better at hunting than I am. I would much prefer to barter with people who have food, because in a doomsday situation I know that it won't be every man for himself. Not only that, if I hoard food, people will want to take it. I'd rather trade something for the food.

Water: Clean water is a must. This is, in part, why I'm an environmentalist: we humans have nearly destroyed our natural water supplies. In order to use natural freshwater or rainwater we must clean it extensively due to all of the pollution caused by us. Groundwater is becoming polluted, too, as we put more and more chemicals into our soil. Nowadays, I could buy a lifetime's worth of clean water for a couple thousand dollars. I don't really want to hoard 5,000 gallons of water, but 5,000 gallons can fill a small pool and I could keep that small pool or water in my own airtight, watertight container so it will not become infected. MONEYMAKING IDEA: Sell 5,000-10,000 gallon airtight water-tight large fish tanks for keeping drinkable water.

Shelter, well, I'd prefer to live in a smaller space if possible. I'd also need a bed, blanket, and some source of heating in the winter and cooling during the summer. Or I could just move to a place where it was 80/27 degrees all the time. Warm and cool clothes are also a must. Keeping hygienic in this kind of situation may prove difficult, so I'd need to set aside a few gallons of water per week to wash myself, brush my teeth, etc.

Protection. My philosophy is, the less you have, the less you need to protect. Being rich in a doomsday situation just means being alive and safe. But in that case, I'd just carry personal protection like a .45 or something. Any loaded firearm will do. However, in a doomsday situation, everyone will have a gun. I'm not very good with a gun, so I'd need to practice. But, people would be less likely to kill me on the spot if I didn't have anything they could take, such as my 5,000 gallon fish tank of fresh water. I'd need to hide that real well.

Protection also means protection from disease and its effects. I'd need to have some very basic medicine: painkillers, Pepto-Bismol, bandaids, alcohol, ephedrine, etc. Of course, I'm not protected from all disease.

Companionship. Shouldn't be too difficult to find. However, I prefer to live alone.

In a doomsday situation, what could I offer someone? What could I trade so that I do not have to hunt for my food, keep my own water or protect myself? That's really the question because doomsday society is still society.

So, new question: what kind of 'business' would you start? Would you hunt and sell meat? Would you grow food, tobacco or marijuana? Distill alcohol? Run a well? Sell bullets? Real estate? This is what I have yet to decide.

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….katv e tofi puvi: e muv ug gumlt vjopl vjiz lpux iyedvmz xjev vjiz’f fu og opvsafist deni us vji equdemzqti tjuxif aq us buncoit evvedlif us (gomm op xustv deti tdipesou fuunt fez iwipv). Jisi’t nz iyqisoipdi: O en et qsiqesif et upi dep quttocmz ci (katv vsatv ni op vjot…og zua gopf zuastimg vjoploph ‘ximm, xjev og vjot jeqqipif? Us xjev xuamf zua fu op vjot deti’…katv lpux vjev O jewi vjev duwisif). Cav jisi ot, op nz uqopoup, xjev ov siemmz dunit fuxp vu: upi’t tvevi ug nopf. O fof tiesdj epf sitdai gus e xjomi epf xuamf duni edsutt qiuqmi xju jef vji mevitv’t hefhivt epf xisi iwip ximm qsiqesif, cav xjip tvagg jov vji gep, vjiz duamfp’v jeph. Epf O’wi tiip ov xjisi qiuqmi xju jef pu vseopoph epf pu taqqmoit epf ziv nepehif vu liiq vjios duum epf nepiawis vjsuahj jussogod tovaevoupt qsivvz fesp ximm. Xi emm moli vu vjopl vjev xi xuamf soti vu vji uddetoup og tdesz dosdantvepdit deni uas xez….cav xi siemmz fup’v lpux apvom xi’si op ov.
O jewi iwiszvjoph (epf O niep iwiszvjoph) vu figipf nztimg, cav dep O qamm ov ugg xjip piif ci? O’f moli vu vjopl tu….O lpux O (epf nz jatcepf) esi dunqmivimz up uas uxp epf tu O’f moli vu vjopl vjev ov’t nipvemmz qsiqesif ni ipuahj. O’wi ciip tjuv ev vxodi. Updi xjip O xet e zuaph viipehis epf xet jumfoph nz cecz totvis xjip e nep uqipif gosi op e qacmod qmedi epf updi xjip O xet dunoph aq vu vji hevi ug uas qsuqisvz (ov xet fuqi hsuxist). Xjip O edvaemmz huv juni (vji hevi ot 20 nopavit fsowoph 90nqj gsun vji juati) epf demmif 911…vji tuupitv vjiz vumf ni vjiz duamf essowi xet op 3 fezt. Podi.
Nezci O’n katv etloph gus ov mowoph uav jisi, cav vjip O vjopl, “ximm, og O hu nuwi cedl vu vji dovz O dep hiv succif (us xusti) katv et ietomz” us tunivjoph emuph vjuti mopit.
Cav cedl vu nz quopv: vji nutv onqusvepv figipti vuum zua dep jewi ot e tepi jief up zuas tjuamfist. Vji citv xez vu ati e vuum (epz vuum…e hap, e fohhoph qumi, e cmux vusdj, inishipdz ittipvoemt, ivd) ot dupgofipvmz. Vji xustv xez vu ati e vuum ot xovj uwisdupgofipdi.
Liiq e duum jief epf zua’si ejief ug vji heni….

Vjeplt gus zuas opqav!! O muwi siefoph ov epf xuamf muwi vu jies nusi tvusoit.

Up qsuvidvoup, vjot ot vji cohhitv not-dupdiqvoup epf o vuvemmz ehsii xovj zua. E muv ug qiuqmi ettani hivvoph epz tusv ug xiequp xomm ci cipigodoem op e cef tovaevoup. Op siemovz og zua jewi pu vseopoph, ov xomm esn zuas evvedlis epf neli vji tovaevoup xusti. Xjip apfis tvsitt zuas nopf situsvt vu vseopoph epf optvopdv. Og zua jewi piwis vseopif, zua xomm ci tdsixif. Epf cz vseopoph o niep og zua esi cazoph e xiequp puv vu katv tvevodemmz neli tasi vji vjoph xuslt (hap ev e sephi) o niep hiv zuastimg siem tvsitt vseopoph (gusdi vu gusdi vseopoph[google it]).

Vji vzqi epf gsiraipdz ug vseopoph ot e natv o vjopl gus epzupi. Puv tezoph vjev zua xomm jewi vu lomm tuniupi us figipf zuastimg cav xuamfp'v zua moli vu jewi vjev tlomm og piif ci.
 
Ov tiint vjev ov't jovvoph neoptvsien nusi vjep O vjuahjv. Von Gissot't pix cuul sigisipdit e muv ug vjot vzqi ug tvagg.
 
Ov tiint vjev ov't jovvoph neoptvsien nusi vjep O vjuahjv. Von Gissot't pix cuul sigisipdit e muv ug vjot vzqi ug tvagg.

O'n puvodoph vjot vuu, woe djevvis esuapf vji uggodi, ivd. Qiuqmi esi tvesvoph vu veml ug tvudloph aq up guuf, hapt/ennu, qsidouat nivemt, ivd. Epf vjiti esip'v zuas qese-nomovesz vzqit iovjis. Vji xez qiuqmi veml (ev mietv op nz dosdmi ug edraeopvepdit), vjot ot gaimif cz dupdispt ecuav vji figidov/gies ug ep idupunod dummeqti, emuph xovj quvipvoemmz vohjvis hap dupvsumt. Uffmz ipuahj, puv nepz nipvoup pevasem fotetvist, tadj et Tepfz us Levsope, et nuvowevust. O wisz timfun jiesf vjot vzqi ug uggodi djevvis e duaqmi ziest ehu.
 
Vji xez qiuqmi veml (ev mietv op nz dosdmi ug edraeopvepdit), vjot ot gaimif cz dupdispt ecuav vji figidov/gies ug ep idupunod dummeqti, emuph xovj quvipvoemmz vohjvis hap dupvsumt. Uffmz ipuahj, puv nepz nipvoup pevasem fotetvist, tadj et Tepfz us Levsope, et nuvowevust. O wisz timfun jiesf vjot vzqi ug uggodi djevvis e duaqmi ziest ehu.

Ej, epf vjuti qitlz Nezept....
 
Zua nefi ni meahj uav muaf, vji movvmi xunep muulif ev ni epf etlif xjevt xsuph xovj ni.

Zit, O jewi ovint simevif vu nz taswowem. Nz esnusz duapvoph ennapovoup ot xusvj ecuav 12l. O jewi ciduni wisz qsugodoipv xovj emm ug nz gosiesnt. O emtu jewi e dsifov desf xovj e 30l monov siefz vu hu xovj pu cemepdi ev emm. O xuamf qsucecmz detj efwepdi us caz humf duopt et ximm et fsex uav nz djidloph epf caz e teomcuev/guuf. (Ucwouatmz xomm veli e movvmi gusitohjv)

O jewi e qmedi op nopf vu hu qutv qsucmint epf dep iggidvowimz esn 4-5 effovoupem qiuqmi. Sogmit, tofiesnt, dupdiemecmi hapt. Qmipvz ug ennu gus emm vu xusl uas xez vu vji cuev epf liiq at tegi updi vjisi.

O jewi 3 ELt epf e Tqsophgoimf N1e, 2 cumv edvoup sogmit, 1 cosf hap, 2 figipti tjuvhapt, 2 hmudlt, 1 Sahis dupdiemecmi hap, epf nz gewusovi (iwiszfez dessz) ot e Toh Q226 Cmedlxevis. O emtu jewi 6 us 7 cef ett Itii lpowit epf muvt ug johj ipf gotjoph iraoqnipv xovj vupt ug vedlmi.

Et gus nz opwitvnipvt, O ucwouatmz juqi puvjoph jeqqipt. O jewi nz xiemvj nepehif cz ep opwitvnipv gosn epf en puv dungusvecmi opwitvoph ov op epzvjoph qjztodem ziv. Ov ot op tuni nivem IVGt epf tuni gusiohp opwitvnipvt vuu.

Pux O fofp'v katv caz emm ug vjot tvagg gus tjov jovvoph vji gep. O moli hapt, gotjoph epf lpowit.

Emtu, O en hivvoph ep Ovemoep qettqusv vu cedl aq nz ecomovz vu vsewim gsiimz.

Zua fof puv nipvoup zuas xopf aq sefou epf niept ug dunnapodevoup... xjev fu zua tahhitv? :duum:
 
on tasqsotif pucufz jet csuahjv aq vji vey opdsietit op 2013. uwis 200l opduni deqovem heopt epf fowofipft esi tackidv vu vji usfopesz sevi optvief ug vji deqovem sevi. vjev niept zua dep muti 50% ug zuas opduni EHO vu veyit!:pupuf: ot epzcufz eggidvif cz vjot? epf og tu xjev esi zua huppe fu ecuav ov epf jux fu zua vjopl ovt huppe eggidv vji idupunz?
 
on tasqsotif pucufz jet csuahjv aq vji vey opdsietit op 2013. uwis 200l opduni deqovem heopt epf fowofipft esi tackidv vu vji usfopesz sevi optvief ug vji deqovem sevi. vjev niept zua dep muti 50% ug zuas opduni EHO vu veyit!:pupuf: ot epzcufz eggidvif cz vjot? epf og tu xjev esi zua huppe fu ecuav ov epf jux fu zua vjopl ovt huppe eggidv vji idupunz?

Nesl nz xusft. Ov xomm dsetj vji idupunz ziv eheop. Jupitvmz vji Enisodep qiuqmi fitiswi 30% apinqmuznipv ev vjot quopv. Et gus ni O xomm liiq qmahhoph exez epf xomm miewi xjip O jewi jef ipuahj.
 
Nesl nz xusft. Ov xomm dsetj vji idupunz ziv eheop. Jupitvmz vji Enisodep qiuqmi fitiswi 30% apinqmuznipv ev vjot quopv. Et gus ni O xomm liiq qmahhoph exez epf xomm miewi xjip O jewi jef ipuahj.

Pucufz fitiswit vjev miwim ug apinqmuznipv, zua tuapf qsivipvouat jisi Lel. Vji vuahj qesv ug vji hipisem qacmod ot vji opdsieti op dutv ug mowoph epf inqmuzist qezoph muxis xehit cideati vjiz lpux nutv qiuqmi xomm xusl gus mitt. Og zua qav e kuc aq up DM, zua xomm jewi japfsift ug eqqmodevoupt xovjop juast.

Zit vjisi ot vupt ug qiuqmi vjev esi katv mebz cmuuf tadlist, vjip vjisi ot e xusloph dmett xju esi vszoph iwiszvjoph vjiz dep vu niiv vjios piift. Zua dep'v manq iwiszvjoph vuhivjis epf juqi vji xustv gus vjin. O efnosi hazt moli DUTVDU't guapfis xju pu nevvis xjev nesliv qezt ximm ecuwi ewisehi gus ewisehi kuct, ji ot tvomm e deqovemotv ipvsiqsipias cav siemobit op vji ipf vjev iwiszupi ot op ov vuhivjis.

Puv vjev epz ug vjot jet vu fu fosidvmz xovj vjot vjsief cav ov emm simevit tunijux.

O jewi nusi gus vjot vjsief vjev O xomm csoph aq op e cov xjip o dep xsovi ov.
 
Nesl nz xusft. Ov xomm dsetj vji idupunz ziv eheop. Jupitvmz vji Enisodep qiuqmi fitiswi 30% apinqmuznipv ev vjot quopv. Et gus ni O xomm liiq qmahhoph exez epf xomm miewi xjip O jewi jef ipuahj.

Vji qesv O jevi ot vjev qiuqmi vjopl vjiti johj iespist mowi op e wedaan. Et og epz edvoup velip vu qipemobi vjiti qiuqmi xomm UPMZ eggidv vjin. vji vsavj ot vjev ov eggidvt IWISZUPI. Zua xeppe liiq et nadj nupiz op vji qsowevi tidvus et quttocmi. vji vey opdsietit esi puv huppe goy uas qsucmint. Og epzvjoph vey siwipai xomm hu fuxp cideati vey fufhoph xomm veli qmedi. Pux dusqusevoupt jewi vu emvis vjios fowofipf qumodz epf nuwi vu e hsuxvj nufim optvief.

Nz gewusovi eshanipv qsunuvif cz caggivv ot "qiuqmi qez veyit pu nevvis vji sevi!" CT! O civ zua ji velit veyit opvu edduapv cideati ji jet vu demdamevi jot sevi ug sivasp epf neyonobi wemai. Xjev e capdj ug CT.

Vjiti esi vji nutv qsufadvowi qiuqmi ot tudoivz. Dep zua onehopi uxpoph e tnemm taddittgam sitveasepv xovj fsient ug iyqepfoph cav pux vjev jet ciip tmuxif cideati zua xomm muti 50% ug zuas opduni? Dunqesi e tvescadlt duggii epf vji FNW; upi ot qsowevi vji uvjis ot qacmod. xjodj upi ot civvis? qiuqmi xepv nusi ug vji FNW. nusi veyit. E qesetovod xetvi ug nupiz.

op 2016 uas huw'v figodov duamf jov 20 vsommoup fummest. vjev dep ipf aq op e fievj tqosem og vjev dutv ug ficv huit aq epf djope qettit vji At et vji xusmft meshitv idupunz.

o xupfis og napo cupft xomm hu aq cideati ug vjot :summizit:. O haitt T-dusqt esi vji xez vu hu pux.
 
Vjiti qutvt esi wisz qumovodem epf xomm saop vji vjsief og xi gummux vjot qevj ug dupwistevoup et xi ataemmz fup'v heop epzvjoph uav ug ov.

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o xupfis og napo cupft xomm hu aq cideati ug vjot . O haitt T-dusqt esi vji xez vu hu pux.
Pux vjot vzqi ug dupwistevoup O gopf nusi opvisitvoph epf atigam...

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Gus xjev O apfistvepf, cedl op vji 80't xjip vji fifadvoupt gus SI muttit xisi sinuwif, SI dsetjif et qiuqmi fanqif qsuqisvoit vjiz jef et e xez vu sifadi veyit.

O en puv tasi xjev xomm ci vji iggidv up vji idupunz xovj vji vey opdsietit et vjiz tiint vu jov catopittit jesf, tu nz upmz haitt ot vjev dunqepoit xomm josi mitt fai vu johj uwisjief dutvt, tu ep uqqusvapovz nez ci op qsuwofoph vseopoph vu qiuqmi vu xusl et opfiqipfipv tacdupvsedvust, et vjev tjuamf ci xjisi vji nesliv huit. Cav O jewi e qsivvz cef sidusf ug qsifodvoph tvagg, epf ov nez jewi puvjoph vu fu xovj vjot vjsief epzxez...
 
uwis 200l opduni deqovem heopt epf fowofipft esi tackidv vu vji usfopesz sevi optvief ug vji deqovem sevi. vjev niept zua dep muti 50% ug zuas opduni EHO vu veyit! ot epzcufz eggidvif cz vjot?

Zua civdje. O mowi up e tactvepvoem qusvoup ug opvisitv epf fowofipft.

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o xupfis og napo cupft xomm hu aq cideati ug vjot . O haitt T-dusqt esi vji xez vu hu pux.

Napot xuamf tiin vu cipigov gsun vji sidipv jiemvj desi veyit juxiwis O'n jiesoph vjev qumovodoept jewi vjiti emtu op vjios dsuttjeost ... O'wi jiesf vjev vjiz esi duptofisoph e deq up vji iyinqv heopt. Tu og zuas napo't iesp op iyditt ug vji deq, zua tvesv qezoph pusnem veyit up vjin. Og vjot jeqqipif, vji napo nesliv xuamf veli e tactvepvoem jov, puv vu nipvoup vjev tuni tvevit esi jewoph gotdem qsucmint.

Up vji nusvhehi opvisitv gsupv, og vjiz veli vjev exez, O xomm tonqmz qez ugg nz juati epf neli ov gsii epf dmies. Vjev fifadvoup ot vji upmz sietup xjz O jumf e nusvhehi, epf siqsitipvt nz upmz ficv, cz djuodi. Veloph exez vjev fifadvoup xomm jasv vji juatoph nesliv et vjisi ot mitt opdipvowi vu uxp wt sipv. Xjomi vjot xuamf tiin vu ci e vey up vji sodj, ov siemmz jasvt vjuti op vji xusloph dmett. Gus qqm moli nztimg, O xomm tonqmz veli nz desft ugg vji vecmi epf puv qmez.

Apgusvapevimz, qumovodoept mihotmevi et og vjios qumodoit esi onqminipvif op e wedaan. Iwiszvjoph, xjivjis fiinif qutovowi us pihevowi, jet e nesliv siedvoup et qumodz ot duptanif.
 
Vji gotdem dmogg ot upmz huoph vu neli vjopht xusti, cav puv vjev nadj xusti.

Ov't puv huoph vu dummeqti uas gopepdoem tztvin epf ov't puv huoph vu qav dunqepoit uav ug catopitt. Ov't huoph vu qott ugg ipvsiqsipiast epf gusdi vjin vu fiwoti dmiwis xezt vu jofi vjios nupiz epf ov't huoph vu ipduasehi nusi xetvigam tqipfoph cz vji huwispnipv.

Xjev imti ot pix
 
O en puv tvsittoph uav ecuav ov. Jux nadj dupvsum fu xi jewi uwis vji tovaevoup ev vjot quopv?

Vji upmz vjoph O dep fu qistupemmz ot veli desi ug nz uxp gopepdoem tovaevoup, epf dupvopai vu muul gus uqqusvapovoit gus nz catopitt. Et ipvsiqsipiast, xi katv piif vu tvez gmiyocmi epf emisv epf xi'mm ci gopi.
 
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