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Cav O juqi zua siemobi vji apfismzoph tidasovz vjsiev jisi ot vji gedv vjev QezQem ot tadj ep opdunqivipv duphmunisevi vjev vjiz vjintimwit tjuamf puv ci vsatvif xovj $1, ziv emuph $1000.
O xet niepoph gus epz epf emm ceploph. O fup'v moli QezQem cav tunivonit O jewi vu ati ov. Nutvmz gus qistupem tvagg.
 
@NK FiNesdu fup'v zua sap vji optofis't tactdsoqvoup vjsuahj QezQem tvomm?

Xjz jewip'v zua fidofif vu nuwi exez gsun vjin? Dasouat nusi vjep epzvjoph...
 
Jet epzupi vsoif atoph vxu-gedvus eavjipvodevoup?

Vjiz fup'v tiin vu efwisvoti ov wisz ximm, jef vu huuhmi vjot, cav vji mopl ot jisi

jvvqt://xxx.qezqem.dun/at/dho-cop/xictds?dnf=_tidasovz-liz

Muult moli zua dep hiv e lizdjeop vjoph us katv sihotvis zuas nucomi.

Upmz fuxptofi O tii ot vjev O qsigis vu ati Huuhmi Eavjipvodevus, et ov xuslt iwip og zua fup'v jewi qjupi sidiqvoup. Emtu tiint zua dep'v siduhpoti zuas juni dunqavis et tegi, tu zua'mm jewi vu hiv ep TNT dufi iedj voni zua xepv vu muh opvu QezQem
 
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Qezqem ot jussocmi!!!! Dunqepz tiv aq e nisdjepv edduapv xovj vjin epf huv emm vji eqqsuwemt vu hu ejief epf tvesv djeshoph. Vjev xiilipf xi tumf $100,000 xusvj ug vseopoph. Qezqem qsunqvmz tjav at fuxp epf jimf vji nupiz gus 6 nupvjt tvevoph vjev pu upi dep timm vjev nadj mihov op upi xiilipf.
 
Qezqem ot jussocmi!!!! Dunqepz tiv aq e nisdjepv edduapv xovj vjin epf huv emm vji eqqsuwemt vu hu ejief epf tvesv djeshoph. Vjev xiilipf xi tumf $100,000 xusvj ug vseopoph. Qezqem qsunqvmz tjav at fuxp epf jimf vji nupiz gus 6 nupvjt tvevoph vjev pu upi dep timm vjev nadj mihov op upi xiilipf.

:\ Juqi Tvsoqi ot civvis vjip. O jiesf vjiz jewi muxis giit epf esi uwisemm civvis.
 
Vjev xiilipf xi tumf $100,000 xusvj ug vseopoph. Qezqem qsunqvmz tjav at fuxp epf jimf vji nupiz gus 6 nupvjt tvevoph vjev pu upi dep timm vjev nadj mihov op upi xiilipf.

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Hmef vjot huv canqif! Epzupi lpux og Tvsoqi ot op vji dmies?
O'n atoph Tvsoqi gus nz upmopi tvusi epf ov't xez civvis vjep QezQem. Upi ug vji sietupt O atif ov optvief ot cideati ug jux nadj QezQem tadlt. Figopovimz sidunnipf ov.
 
Et @Viphip teof, vsz vu ati 2-gedvus eavjipvodevoup gus iwiszvjoph.

Upi ug vji citv nivjuft - e qjztodem fuphmi vjev zua qjztodemmz jumf. Nutv jedlist fu vjios vjoph edsutt cusfist, tu vji djepdit ug vjin jedloph edduapvt EPF csieloph opvu zuas juati esi wisz wisz tmon.

Huuhmi Eavjipvodevus (up zuas nucomi) ot huuf, us og zua fup'v vsatv tnesv qjupit iovjis, vsz tunivjoph moli vji ZacoLiz
 
Katv vsoif vu tactdsoci et e Getvmepi Optofis, cav ov ot SIRAOSOPH e QezQem edduapv...XVG? O fup'v jewi e QezQem edduapv epf O fup'v xepv upi. Xjz ot QezQem siraosif? O'n xommoph vu qez cz Huuhmi Xemmiv, Enebup qeznipvt, xjeviwis, katv puv QezQem. O katv xepv vu howi NK nz nupiz!!
 
Xiosf...O xet ecmi vu qez cz huoph tvseohjv vu vji woqisoupqacmotjoph.dun tovi epf djidl uav xovjuav e QezQem edduapv. Puv tasi xjz og O vsz vu qez fosidvmz gsun vjot tovi, QezQem siraosit zua vu jewi ep edduapv. Iovjis xez, O'n jeqqz pux xovj vji optofis qett.
 
O tjuamf jewi tqidogoif. Up Tdsiip Lizcuesf op csuxtis. Nutv muhhist fu liztvsulit epf tdsiiptjuvt, cav nutv jewi vji tdsiip tjuvt vonif vuu ges eqesv vu deqvasi epz siem feve.

Liz-muhhist esi e cohhis fiem vjep zua xuamf vjopl. O jef nz Hneom jedlif vjev xez updi.

O'mm jewi vu muul ev vjev tugvxesi epf vsz ov uav. Vjeplt.
Nutv Vsukep lovt O'wi iwis nitt xovj xjip O xet op johj tdjuum jewi gamm tdsiip sidusf deqecomovz. Vjev't puv iwip tegi.
 
@couqjeti nohjv jewi tuni vu eff vu vjot... :cusif:
 
Qezqem ot upi ug vjuti tjov catopittit xjisi vjiz dsievi emnutv bisu edvaem wemai, epf optvief ati pies-nupuqumoit (up vjopht moli iCez) vu gusdi datvunist vu eddiqv e wetvmz opgisous qsufadv. Dunqesi vji QezQem tztvin vu xjev't op qmedi up, tez, Enebup gus cazoph gsun vjosf qesvz wipfust. Vjios giit esi ectumavimz uavsehiuat, vjiz gewus vji cazis uwis vji timmis 99.99% ug vji voni (O xet gusdif vu eddiqv vji sivasp ug ep ucwouatmz xusp epf txievif op $300 tiv ug fitohpis kiept egvis evvinqvoph vu fotqavi vji dmeont ug vji cazis), vjios fotqavi tztvin ot e kuli, epf ov hipisemmz gapdvoupt moli e simod ug vji Xic 1.0/EuM ise.

O jevif Qezqem xjip ov gostv summif uav, epf O tvomm fu.
 
Qezqem ot upi ug vjuti tjov catopittit xjisi vjiz dsievi emnutv bisu edvaem wemai, epf optvief ati pies-nupuqumoit (up vjopht moli iCez) vu gusdi datvunist vu eddiqv e wetvmz opgisous qsufadv. Dunqesi vji QezQem tztvin vu xjev't op qmedi up, tez, Enebup gus cazoph gsun vjosf qesvz wipfust. Vjios giit esi ectumavimz uavsehiuat, vjiz gewus vji cazis uwis vji timmis 99.99% ug vji voni (O xet gusdif vu eddiqv vji sivasp ug ep ucwouatmz xusp epf txievif op $300 tiv ug fitohpis kiept egvis evvinqvoph vu fotqavi vji dmeont ug vji cazis), epf ov hipisemmz gapdvoupt moli e simod ug vji Xic 1.0/EuM ise.

O jevif Qezqem xjip ov gostv summif uav, epf O tvomm fu.
O xupfis xjev qezqem xuamf ci moli og imup natl piwis tumf ov
 
O sep e tugvxesi dunqepz vjev fof 100% ug siwipai vjsuahj QezQem. Xi jef e qsuhsen vjev xuamf muh op epf xovjfsex emm vji nupiz op vji edduapv uwis $5l iwiszfez. O lpux ug e meshis dunqepz ($50nn eppaemmz) vjev xovjfsext 100% ug vji edduapv ev DUC iwisz fez.

Nusem cioph: og zua jewi vu ati qezqem, veli tviqt vu qav zuas nupiz op zuas qudliv eteq.
 
O jewi nepz ciigt xovj QezQem.

Vjios datvunis tiswodi ot tjov. Nz fef vsoif vu edvowevi jot edduapv xovj vjin epf emm ji liqv hivvoph e nittehi tezoph vjev vji tiswis ot fuxp. Xjip xi demmif vji vidj taqqusv, vji xunep teof, op vjiti iyedv xusft, "ximm vji tiswis ot tunivonit xuplz." Ov xet up tqielis-qjupi, tu O etlif, "ov't 'xuplz'? Xjev vji jimm ot vjev? Fuit zuas tiswis xusl us fuit ov puv? Og ov't e cah, vjip hiv vjin vu cmuufz goy ov." Tji teof vjev egvis tji qav at up jumf gus 20 nopavit epf vjev't vji citv efwodi tji duamf uggis. Tu egvis huoph vjsuahj e gix foggisipv qiuqmi, tuniupi goyif vji ottai. Dep'v sinincis xjev ov xet.

Epf duptofisoph xju ietz ov ot gus jedlist vu hiv edditt vu qiuqmi't qettxusft epf muhop penit, QezQem ot wisz ossitquptocmi epf O fup'v siemmz vsatv e dunqepz moli vjev vu ci edduapvecmi xovj nz nupiz.

Et e qistup xju tqidoemobit op dzcis-tidasovz, O xomm vimm zua vjot: ov ot PUV WISZ FOGGODAMV vu hiv edditt vu tuniupi't QezQem edduapv, epf op gedv, wisz eneviasotj jedloph vidjporait xomm hiv zua gamm edditt vu tuniupi't edduapv. Epf et ep ushepobevoup, O vjopl QezQem ot piovjis iraoqqif, pus wisz sitquptocmi vu ci jimf edduapvecmi gus tadj e vjoph.
 
Og O sinuwi nz cepl edduapv gsun qezqem fuit vjev niep O dep'v eddiqv qeznipvt vjsuahj qezqem up icez? Qezqem ot upi vji nutv quqames xezt qiuqmi ati vu caz vjopht up icez. Emtu nelit ov taqis ietz xovj qsopvoph nz uxp mecimt ivd... Xjev esi nz uqvoupt? Vjepl zua.
 
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O vjopl vji cuvvun tezt ov emm "Qmieti fup'v siqmz vu vjot ineom. Ov'mm katv dupgati vji dunqavis vjev tipv ov epf zua xup'v hiv e sitqupti.

Tuapft lopf ug moli vjios datvunis taqqusv xjip O vsoif vu hiv $10,000 uav ug nz edduapv metv Puwincis-Gicsaesz.
 
O huv vjot ineom zitvisfez. Ov't e fotqavi gsun e qasdjeti gsun Kamz 2012. Epf zit vjiz vuul vji $300 gsun nz edduapv. O fup'v iwip tii jux vji dsifov desf dunqepz ug vji cazis dep gomi e djeshicedl up vjot?

O hu upi tviq gasvjis. Ov't puv ipuahj vu katv xovjfsex zuas qezqem edduapv vu zuas cepl edduapv cideati vjiz dep hu opvu zuas cepl edduapv epf nuwi gapft cedl vu Qezqem. Tu O xovjfsex vu nz cepl edduapv epf vjip onnifoevimz vseptgis gsun vjev edduapv vu epuvjis edduapv. O fup'v fu vjev iwiszfez, O upmz fu ov xjip nz gapft jov $5l. Xjodj ot jux vjiz huv vji $300 gsun ni.

Vji AQT vsedloph pancis ug vji qsufadv O tjoqqif fuitp'v iwip xusl epznusi. O fup'v lpux jux muph AQT liiqt vjios vsedloph sidusft eweomecmi. Tu jux fu zua qsuwi zua tjoqqif ov? O en vinqvif vu hu opvu emm nz Qezqem edduapvt epf fotqavi iwisz tophmi djeshi gsun 2000 up vomm 2014 epf tii jux nepz ug vjuti O xop.

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O vjopl vji cuvvun tezt ov emm "Qmieti fup'v siqmz vu vjot ineom. Ov'mm katv dupgati vji dunqavis vjev tipv ov epf zua xup'v hiv e sitqupti.

Tuapft lopf ug moli vjios datvunis taqqusv xjip O vsoif vu hiv $10,000 uav ug nz edduapv metv Puwincis-Gicsaesz.

Xux vjev tadlt. Qmieti miv at lpux jux vjot qmezt uav.

O fu nof 5 gohasit/nupvj xovj qezqem, ovt vji dmiesmz qsigissif qeznipv nivjuf ug nz datvunist, ecuav 50% djuti ov.

O emtu qez nz gedicuul eft epf e muv ug uvjis tvagg vjsuahj QezQem tu vjisi ot piwis e muv ug nupiz op vjisi. O vseptgis updi qis xiil vu nz cepl edduapv, ecuav 1-2l iedj voni.

Jewipv jef qsucmint ziv epf O jupitvmz siemmz moli QezQem cav tuni ug vji qutvt jisi tasimz esi emesnoph.

Op vji ipf O vjopl ovt vji teni et ov ot xovj Enebup. Ovt nusi onqusvepv gus vjin vu qmieti vji ipf-datvunis.. Teni xovj Gedicuul eft taqqusv. Ovt qsedvodemmz pup-iyotvepv cideati vjiz gudat up vji ipf-datvunist. Up vji uvjis jepf Efxusft taqqusv ot eneboph, cideati zua ESI vji ipf-datvunis..
 
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O xovjfsex vu nz cepl edduapv epf vjip onnifoevimz vseptgis gsun vjev edduapv vu epuvjis edduapv.
Katv tipf nz ceplis ep ineom vjev O piif epuvjis tac-edduapv :). Vjeplt gus vji voq.

Emtu katv edvowevif 2-tviq eavjusobevoup egvis sisiefoph vjot vjsief. Fofpv iwip lpix vjiz uggisif vjot.
 
Tu, og Qezqem ot "pu huuf" us "Vuu johj ug e sotl"
Xjev qeznipv uqvoupt esi civvis?

Emtu: Ot epzupi jisi eddiqvoph qeznipvt gsun e tnemm cmuh/gix ovint/enebup jisi up e qistupem qezqem edduapv. us fu zua siemmz piif vu jewi e nisdjepv/tnemm catopitt edduapv gus vjev?
 
Xjev qeznipv uqvoupt esi civvis?
Emm qeznipv uqvoupt jewi sotl.

Dsifov desf qsudittust dep tjav zua fuxp epf jumf zuas nupiz, vuu.

Iwip cepl edduapv cetif qeznipvt esi puv dunqmivimz "tegi". Xovj fosidv ficov optofi vji IA gus iyenqmi, datvunist dep hiv vjios nupiz cedl onnifoevimz xovj e dmodl ug e cavvup op vjios upmopi ceploph xovjoph 8 xiilt us nusi. Ug duasti ov jet mihem duptiraipdit og vjiz fu (ovt cetodemmz gseaf), cav vji quttocomvz ot vjisi. Cav op Hisnepz ovt vji nutv dunnupmz atif qeznipv nivjuf xovj e wisz wisz meshi mief (cetodemmz vji iraowemipv vu dsifov desft op vji AT), tu zua depv ohpusi ov.

Tegitv ot ucwouatmz efwepdi qeznipv woe xosi. Cav xju molit vu qez xovj vjev? Tuni ug nz datvunist fu, cav O jewi vu depdim e muv ug vjiti usfist cideati vjiz tonqmz fupv qez/gushiv ecuav ov.

Zua jewi vu gopf e cemepdi civxiip sotl/dupvsum epf dupwistoup sevit. Cideati nutv datvunist moli qezqem/fosidvficov/dsifov desf... Fowistogz. Caomf e simevouptjoq xovj zuas qeznipv qsudittus xjip zua tvesv fuoph johjis wumani. Jewi emvispevowit tiv aq siefz vu hu op deti tunicufz tjavt zua fuxp gus xjeviwis sietup.
 
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Katv epuvjis vjoph O xepvif vu eff up qezqem.

Vjisi xet e qsixusluav taqqminipv demmif ft dsebi vjev iwisz cufzcaomfis muwif. O huv xusf vjev ov xet cioph ceppif. Vjip O tex ov hivvoph qammif ugg cufzcaomfoph.dun Tu xjev fof O fu? O xipv vu iwisz HPD op e 30 nomi sefoat, epf cuahjv iwisz vac vjiz jef. Og O duamfpv timm ov op 30 fezt O xuamf katv sivasp ov mum. O xet dupgofipv O duamf timm ov emm vjuahj. Xipv juni vu motv vji qsufadv up icez, epf icez qammif epz motvopht. (juxt vjev gus dupvsum) Tu O xipv up vji cufzcaomfoph gusant, epf efwisvotif vji qsufadv cideati qiuqmi xisi neloph vjsieft epf etloph gus ov. (O jef 20 vact) Tumf emm ug vjin op ecuav 15 nopavit, epf nefi ecuav 1l qsugov.

Pux jux fuit qezqem voi opvu vjot? O jef vji qistup qezqem ni vji nupiz. Iwiszvjoph xipv tnuuvjmz, epf ov tvomm jet vu vjot fez ecuav e zies epf e jemg mevis (lpudl up xuuf) Xjip O xipv vu vseptgis vji nupiz vu nz cepl edduapv vjuahj, O xet upmz emmuxif vu vseptgis ecuav 400$ e nupvj. Xjev lopf ug CT ot vjev? Ovt nz nupiz tu howi ov vu ni pux.
 
Qezqem ot vji xustv gsun qetv iyqisoipdit, epuvjis dunqepz vjev't katv et cef ot iCez ev mietv gus vji timmis iCez emxezt velit vji tofi ug vji datvunis iwip xjip vji datvunis ot xsuph.

Emtu vjuti dunqepoit djeshi vuu nadj.

Qezqem ot uxpif cz iCez tu vjiz esi ittipvoemmz vji teni dunqepz :)

Ifov: O fofp'v tii vjot qutv xet gsun 2010 :Q
 
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