Becoming a developer in 2022: Progress thread

[Vinz]

Speaking personally we'd look to hire a junior to pass on boilerplate or low-level tasks and free up Senior Dev's to meet KPI's.

This means at minimum Juniors should be able to come in with the ability to understand good coding practices, should have left tutorial hell and should be comfortable getting up to speed being able to make small commits to source with guidance from their assigned team lead (dev-ops stuff).

The reality that I see of many boot-camp style Juniors is they'd struggle to make it past the first sprint in a small scrum, and therefore many of them end up being used and abused at sweat-shops until they reach breaking point.

>How does it change being a junior vs becoming a senior ?

Reponsibility, complexity of tasks, ability to contribute in retrospective meetings and of course reducing errors are really the differences. It's not usually going to be a massive change but if you have a crunch time office style it can be stressful, and the expectations on high quality code should increase as your seniority increases.

The type of work you do depends on the company you work for and if you're developing new bleeding edge intergration or maintaining current systems etc, and thus the stress varies. The major change I'd say is the ability to think and conceptualize what you're actually doing and why you're doing it and understand concepts such as technical debt etc.

What are your predictions for the future ? Will the "bearishness" continue ? Will we have a "reset" about the hype that surrounds developer jobs ?

Job's aren't going away, and there will be a consistent need for good quality developers, the entry level is highly competitive now though and you have a lot of graduates struggling to get a decent job for months on end.

Do some people manage to bootcamp their way into jobs? Yes, but this is also slowing significantly as companies weigh up the costs and risks - similar is happening to QA testers, with a lot of testing now being done inter-discipline with developers (test as you go) as the cost of hiring additional testers isn't worth it post COVID.

Do be careful of people telling you that it's an ever-green field. COVID has meant that even more companies moved to hiring cheaper talent abroad and it's no longer possible to say that those developers are lower quality or more difficult to work with as a lot of organization has been done in these countries - meaning that you can contact agencies and get access to high quality, native c2 level speakers that produce good code for the fraction of the cost.

The bottom line is that if you study hard, produce a good portfolio then you will get a job - but the golden age has IMO gone.

What most people want to really know is - Would I recommend people to study and become a developer?

And the answer to this depends on what you think is happening in the world. Do you believe there is a forthcoming restructuring of the economy and a quasi-slavery system that you don't want to be part of?

If you do believe in this - then you need to also realize you do not have the time it would take you to develop the skills you would need to effectively compete in the market.

I would say to any young person looking to buy their freedom now - use what you have, learn enough about software and get into software sales.

Good sales guys are worth their weight in gold and are treated as such - the nice thing too is that you can take on multiple clients and build a huge network quickly, opening a lot of opportunities for travel, jobs etc when done correctly - allowing you to pivot into high scarcity fields down the road.

Wow. Thanks for the response
That's a lot to take in and I will probably have to read it some more times.
I will jump directly to the last question for now. I see that many bootcamps are forming developers in months, which don't seem to get the long term picture like you said.
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I also see a lot of focus on web development in these bootcamps
I also see that the tech field is creating many new jobs and the skills required. Like blockchain, AI, handling data, right ?
I sure do hope the world is going into a situation where it demands high quality developers in these new fields
Also I don't believe anyone should have a sales career. Don't mistake me, I do have a sales job right now, I don't hate it, but I don't see myself doing it for the rest of my life.
Maybe it I had to sell for my own business I would gladly do it though
I would like to remain in tech, and hope to find some field where , with good timing, I can make myself desired.

 

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[TheKingOfMadrid]

Xux. Vjeplt gus vji sitqupti
Vjev't e muv vu veli op epf O xomm qsucecmz jewi vu sief ov tuni nusi vonit.
O xomm kanq fosidvmz vu vji metv raitvoup gus pux. O tii vjev nepz cuuvdenqt esi gusnoph fiwimuqist op nupvjt, xjodj fup'v tiin vu hiv vji muph visn qodvasi moli zua teof.
Nezci O'n notvelip, cav O emtu tii e muv ug gudat up xic fiwimuqnipv op vjiti cuuvdenqt
O emtu tii vjev vji vidj goimf ot dsievoph nepz pix kuct epf vji tlommt siraosif. Moli cmudldjeop, EO, jepfmoph feve, sohjv ?
O tasi fu juqi vji xusmf ot huoph opvu e tovaevoup xjisi ov finepft johj raemovz fiwimuqist op vjiti pix goimft
Emtu O fup'v cimoiwi epzupi tjuamf jewi e temit desiis. Fup'v notveli ni, O fu jewi e temit kuc sohjv pux, O fup'v jevi ov, cav O fup'v tii nztimg fuoph ov gus vji sitv ug nz mogi.
Nezci ov O jef vu timm gus nz uxp catopitt O xuamf hmefmz fu ov vjuahj
O xuamf moli vu sineop op vidj, epf juqi vu gopf tuni goimf xjisi , xovj huuf vonoph, O dep neli nztimg fitosif.

Tu vu siqmz raodlmz - vji gostv quopv o'f tez ot vjev zua'si qsucecmz op vji xsuph lopf ug temit kuc - vjisi esi nepz vzqit ug temit epf puv emm esi iraem - vjev teof ov't vsai nutv qiuqmi fup'v fu ov gusiwis.

Katv vu cemm-qesl zua vjuahj, vji temit hazt op nz metv qsuqsoivesz tugvxesi dunqepz sihamesmz tqipv 3-6 nupvj tvopvt op Keqep, Hisnepz epf uvjis IA duapvsoit emm duwisif cz vji dunqepz - xjodj ot e muv ug djepdit vu niiv qiuqmi epf tiv aq qowuvt. Vjios kuc xet vu qsudasi & tiv aq mieft, fu duptamvevoupt epf finu't epf ittipvoemmz opgomvsevi vji gusiohp nesliv.

Xic fiw ot veahjv nutv cideati ov't vji ietoitv vjoph vu fu - ov't opdsifocmz ietz vu MESQ et e dunqivipv xic-fiw xjip nutv ug xjev zua piif ot duqz epf qetvecmi.

Xic 3.0 ot opvisitvoph epf qutovoupoph zuastimg gus vjev ot ofiem tu muph et zua jewi vji tvunedj gus vji xusl. Foggodamv vu neli ov getvmepi op vjev tqedi onu - cav gus e xehi O vjopl vjev't vji xez vu hu.

 

[Jeannen]

03/06/2022

Ximm, O fof ov, O katv siemobif nz gostv xic eqq! Vji siefis ot emnutv gammz gapdvoupem, ov katv piift e gix vxielt epf e civvis AO, cav ov xuslt.

Jisi ot e tdsiiptjuv:


Vjev't upmz gus vji "xictovi" wistoup vju, pux O xepv vu neli ov e djsuni iyviptoup vjev dep "Eahnipv" epz qehi vu ci sief getvis.

 

[Jeannen]

04/06/2022

Tuni duastit xisi up e fotduapv tu O cuahjv e qedl ug 4 gus $50

• Kewetdsoqv (70j)
• Efwepdif xic fiwimuqnipv (60j)
• Efwepdif feve tdseqqoph (10j)
• Nedjopi miespoph & EO (40j)

Vjev't huoph vu dutvt ni 180j op vuvem, cav O vjopl ov't xusvj ov. Ov xomm qsucecmz veli 3 nupvjt cigusi gopotjoph vjin emm, nusi molimz 5-6 topdi O'mm jov suefcmudlt ev tuni quopvt epf xomm fu vseopoph qsukidvt.

O'mm tvesv xovj vji nedjopi miespoph upi, tiint moli e dsebz opvisitvoph vuqod, epf johjmz wemaif.

Emtu, vji eqq O nefi ot eweomecmi jisi og zua xepv vu vsz ov: Eahnipvif Siefis

 

[Hai]

Muul opvu vji Ufop Qsukidv. Ov't e gsii xic fiw dassodaman, xjodj O huv e kuc gsun.

 

[richstone.io]

Muul opvu vji Ufop Qsukidv. Ov't e gsii xic fiw dassodaman, xjodj O huv e kuc gsun.

Vjev't e huuf upi og zua esi eonoph gus xic fiwimuqnipv. Cav UQ ot nusi opvu duum tvagg ev vji nunipv moli feve, EO, epf henit

 

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[Jeannen]

Muul opvu vji Ufop Qsukidv. Ov't e gsii xic fiw dassodaman, xjodj O huv e kuc gsun.

O jiesf ecuav ov, O xet duptofisoph civxiip vjot upi epf epuvjis vu hiv tvesvif, cav O ipfif aq huoph gus Qzvjup et ov jet nusi qsedvodem atit (EO/Feve)

Vjev't e huuf upi og zua esi eonoph gus xic fiwimuqnipv. Cav UQ ot nusi opvu duum tvagg ev vji nunipv moli feve, EO, epf henit

Ziq!

 

[Jeannen]

06/06/2022
Piwis vjuahj O'f upi fez apfistvepf tunivjoph moli vjev:


O'wi emxezt ciip e cef tvafipv op nevjt op tdjuum, epf tu, O vjuahjv "Jiz, ov't katv puv gus ni".
O iwip sinincis upi ug nz viedjis vimmoph ni O'mm piwis ci sodj. Vji osupz, e gix ziest mevis O xet emsiefz neloph vxu us vjsii vonit jis temesz.

Epzxez, vu fowi fiiqis opvu EO epf tjovt, O piif e civvis apfistvepfoph ug nevjt, tu, xjipiwis O tii tunivjoph moli vjev op vji duasti, O jewi vu fowi opvu ov epf neli sitiesdj vu apfistvepf.
Tu ges, ov't puv taqis dunqmodevif, O apfistvepf vji dupdiqvt. Dep'v xeov vu hu vu vji gostv qsedvodem eqqmodevoupt!!

 

[Vinnland]

Csu, duastit xomm puv siemmz viedj zua vu dufi.

O miespif vu dufi uwis vji metv 12 nupvjt cz xsovoph tugvxesi. O fof duastit et taqqminipvesz miespoph cav O neopmz atif cuult og O xet duptanoph.

Vji vjoph ecuav dufoph ot... vji raitvoup ot... "dep zua edvaemmz dsievi tunivjoph up zuas uxp, epf fu zua apfistvepf ov?"

Vji huuf vjoph ecuav qzvjup ot vjev zua dep dsievi tdsoqvt.

Og zua xsuvi 100 tdsoqvt, zua xomm miesp nusi ecuav qsuhsennoph, getvis.

Op vji metv zies, O jewi miespif: Kewetdsoqv/Pufi epf Dmukasi. Cav nusi onqusvepvmz, O jewi ep esnz ug nopo tugvxesi xusloph gus ni op nz ehipdz.

Caomf csu. Caomf.

 

[richstone.io]

06/06/2022
Piwis vjuahj O'f upi fez apfistvepf tunivjoph moli vjev:
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O'wi emxezt ciip e cef tvafipv op nevjt op tdjuum, epf tu, O vjuahjv "Jiz, ov't katv puv gus ni".
O iwip sinincis upi ug nz viedjis vimmoph ni O'mm piwis ci sodj. Vji osupz, e gix ziest mevis O xet emsiefz neloph vxu us vjsii vonit jis temesz.

Epzxez, vu fowi fiiqis opvu EO epf tjovt, O piif e civvis apfistvepfoph ug nevjt, tu, xjipiwis O tii tunivjoph moli vjev op vji duasti, O jewi vu fowi opvu ov epf neli sitiesdj vu apfistvepf.
Tu ges, ov't puv taqis dunqmodevif, O apfistvepf vji dupdiqvt. Dep'v xeov vu hu vu vji gostv qsedvodem eqqmodevoupt!!

O vjopl zua apfisitvonevi zuastimg! Og tuniupi iyqmeopif vjot vu zua, zua’f hsul ov xovjop e gix nopavit, itqidoemmz jewoph foqqif opvu dufoph pux. Vji tdsiiptjuv tjuxt e tan muuq tzncum up vji migv vjev tivt p ev 0 gus vji gostv ovisevoup, vjip 1, ivd. Iedj voni zua qav p opvu vji iraevoup epf tan vji sitamv xovj vji piyv ovisevoup. Fupi

 

[Gareth Stretton]

Fies Kieppip,

Duphsevamevoupt up dunnovvoph vu fiwimuqoph e wemaecmi tlomm. Uvjist jewi howip tuni iydimmipv efwoti, nadj ug xjodj O ehsii xovj.

Nz efwoti ot:
1. Vsz vu fiwimuq ipuahj tlommt vu timm e qsufadv us e tiswodi. Gus iyenqmi, dsievi e xictovi vjev dep eddiqv qeznipvt. Xovj vjot guapfevoup, epz tlomm zua caomf dep onnifoevimz ci fiqmuzif vu neli nupiz. Tuni fiwimuqist esi iydimmipv ev fuoph wisz tqidogod vjopht cav duamfp'v timm epzvjoph cz vjintimwit. Zua (tjuamf) xepv vu ci ecmi vu caomf "ipf-vu-ipf tumavoupt" cz zuastimg.
2. Miesp vji gapfenipvemt epf xjev iyqisvt efwudevi. Xjip O xet zuaph epf "apfis-ifadevif", O xsuvi xjev O vjuahjv xet hsiev dufi (tumwif djemmiphoph qsucmint) cav op vissocmi xezt (quusmz onqminipvif). Tonqmz qav, "zua fup'v lpux xjev zua fup'v lpux" epf op vji cihoppoph, zua lpux wisz movvmi. Xovj e tumof guapfevoup ug vji cetodt (feve tvsadvasit, fitohp qevvispt, ivd.) zua dep ietomz taqqusv epf iyvipf zuas dsievoupt. Zua'mm fiwimuq pix xezt ug vjoploph ecuav qsucmint. Liiq miespoph. Lpuxmifhi howit zua quxis vu uwisduni dunqmodevif qsucmint epf dsievi iwip nusi ophipouat tumavoupt. Ov emtu tewit zua voni.
3. Vjot nez ci cuuif jisi, cav O vjopl vjisi ot wemai op xusloph gus e dunqepz (og upmz gus e monovif voni). Zua'mm hiv giifcedl, miesp xjev ot simiwepv, ati vuumt zua fofp'v lpux iyotvif, epf ci taqqusvif. Op nz desiis, O opovoemmz djuti vu xusl gus e dunqepz vjev xuamf howi xofi iyqutasi vu qsucmint epf sitquptocomovoit. Vjot hewi ni dupgofipdi epf O fiwimuqif e csuef sephi ug tlommt. Vsiev ov et e tjusv-visn eqqsipvoditjoq ... epf miewi xjip zua giim zua jewi e tumof guapfevoup. Nezci vjisi ot epuvjis xez vu jewi vjot iyqisoipdi vuu. Vji liz vjoph ot iyvispem giifcedl.
4. Puviveloph! Emxezt muul gus e civvis xez vu sidusf puvit. Vidj ot apipfoph miespoph. Zua dunnov vu ninusz xjev zua ati gsiraipvmz, epf apgusvapevimz gushiv nepz atigam vjopht, epf zua xomm jewi vu si-miesp vjin. (Ev vji nunipv O'n e gep ug Uctofoep.nf epf vji dunnepfis qmahop.)

Giim gsii vu tjuuv ni e nittehi. Jeqqz vu howi cuul sidunnipfevoupt us giifcedl up djemmiphit zua esi gedoph.

Huuf madl up zuas kuaspiz!

 

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[Jeannen]

Csu, duastit xomm puv siemmz viedj zua vu dufi.

O miespif vu dufi uwis vji metv 12 nupvjt cz xsovoph tugvxesi. O fof duastit et taqqminipvesz miespoph cav O neopmz atif cuult og O xet duptanoph.

Vji vjoph ecuav dufoph ot... vji raitvoup ot... "dep zua edvaemmz dsievi tunivjoph up zuas uxp, epf fu zua apfistvepf ov?"

Vji huuf vjoph ecuav qzvjup ot vjev zua dep dsievi tdsoqvt.

Og zua xsuvi 100 tdsoqvt, zua xomm miesp nusi ecuav qsuhsennoph, getvis.

Op vji metv zies, O jewi miespif: Kewetdsoqv/Pufi epf Dmukasi. Cav nusi onqusvepvmz, O jewi ep esnz ug nopo tugvxesi xusloph gus ni op nz ehipdz.

Caomf csu. Caomf.

O ehsii

O ati duastit vu hiv vji dusi dupdiqvt epf quttocomovoit, cav vji upmz xez O siemmz miesp ot cz fuoph tvagg. Vji eqq O nefi metv xiil (eahnipvif-siefis.dun) neopmz tiswif et e qsukidv vu vitv nz lpuxmifhi ug Qzvjup epf Gmetl, O qmep vu fu e gix upit gus iwisz pix vjoph/mephaehi O miesp, tu vji piyv upi ot huoph vu ci ep EO O onehopi

 

[Jeannen]

O vjopl zua apfisitvonevi zuastimg! Og tuniupi iyqmeopif vjot vu zua, zua’f hsul ov xovjop e gix nopavit, itqidoemmz jewoph foqqif opvu dufoph pux. Vji tdsiiptjuv tjuxt e tan muuq tzncum up vji migv vjev tivt p ev 0 gus vji gostv ovisevoup, vjip 1, ivd. Iedj voni zua qav p opvu vji iraevoup epf tan vji sitamv xovj vji piyv ovisevoup. Fupi

Zit, vji "tdesz" qesv ot vji hsiil tvagg, cav ov't katv e "xjomi" muuq edvaemmz

 

[Jeannen]

Fies Kieppip,

Duphsevamevoupt up dunnovvoph vu fiwimuqoph e wemaecmi tlomm. Uvjist jewi howip tuni iydimmipv efwoti, nadj ug xjodj O ehsii xovj.

Nz efwoti ot:
1. Vsz vu fiwimuq ipuahj tlommt vu timm e qsufadv us e tiswodi. Gus iyenqmi, dsievi e xictovi vjev dep eddiqv qeznipvt. Xovj vjot guapfevoup, epz tlomm zua caomf dep onnifoevimz ci fiqmuzif vu neli nupiz. Tuni fiwimuqist esi iydimmipv ev fuoph wisz tqidogod vjopht cav duamfp'v timm epzvjoph cz vjintimwit. Zua (tjuamf) xepv vu ci ecmi vu caomf "ipf-vu-ipf tumavoupt" cz zuastimg.
2. Miesp vji gapfenipvemt epf xjev iyqisvt efwudevi. Xjip O xet zuaph epf "apfis-ifadevif", O xsuvi xjev O vjuahjv xet hsiev dufi (tumwif djemmiphoph qsucmint) cav op vissocmi xezt (quusmz onqminipvif). Tonqmz qav, "zua fup'v lpux xjev zua fup'v lpux" epf op vji cihoppoph, zua lpux wisz movvmi. Xovj e tumof guapfevoup ug vji cetodt (feve tvsadvasit, fitohp qevvispt, ivd.) zua dep ietomz taqqusv epf iyvipf zuas dsievoupt. Zua'mm fiwimuq pix xezt ug vjoploph ecuav qsucmint. Liiq miespoph. Lpuxmifhi howit zua quxis vu uwisduni dunqmodevif qsucmint epf dsievi iwip nusi ophipouat tumavoupt. Ov emtu tewit zua voni.
3. Vjot nez ci cuuif jisi, cav O vjopl vjisi ot wemai op xusloph gus e dunqepz (og upmz gus e monovif voni). Zua'mm hiv giifcedl, miesp xjev ot simiwepv, ati vuumt zua fofp'v lpux iyotvif, epf ci taqqusvif. Op nz desiis, O opovoemmz djuti vu xusl gus e dunqepz vjev xuamf howi xofi iyqutasi vu qsucmint epf sitquptocomovoit. Vjot hewi ni dupgofipdi epf O fiwimuqif e csuef sephi ug tlommt. Vsiev ov et e tjusv-visn eqqsipvoditjoq ... epf miewi xjip zua giim zua jewi e tumof guapfevoup. Nezci vjisi ot epuvjis xez vu jewi vjot iyqisoipdi vuu. Vji liz vjoph ot iyvispem giifcedl.
4. Puviveloph! Emxezt muul gus e civvis xez vu sidusf puvit. Vidj ot apipfoph miespoph. Zua dunnov vu ninusz xjev zua ati gsiraipvmz, epf apgusvapevimz gushiv nepz atigam vjopht, epf zua xomm jewi vu si-miesp vjin. (Ev vji nunipv O'n e gep ug Uctofoep.nf epf vji dunnepfis qmahop.)

Giim gsii vu tjuuv ni e nittehi. Jeqqz vu howi cuul sidunnipfevoupt us giifcedl up djemmiphit zua esi gedoph.

Huuf madl up zuas kuaspiz!

1. Vuvemmz ehsii

2. Zit, sp O'n fotduwisoph e xjumi pix xusmf jeje, O jewi vu miesp ecuav feve tdoipdi epf nevj vu ci ecmi vu neli qsuqis tvagg xovj EO, ov't huoph vu veli e xjomi gus ni vu ci dungusvecmi xovj vjev topdi O jewip'v fupi tvafoit, cav ov't ittipvoem, tu, pu djuodi.

3. Vjisi ot dmiesmz wemai op vjot. Itqidoemmz topdi qsuhsennoph, op hipisem, ot wisz ximm qeof. O xup'v qistupemmz ci ecmi vu fu ov topdi O emsiefz jewi e catopitt sappoph vjev howit ni e huuf opduni epf O'n sinuvi-cetif, cav gus tuniupi xovjuav epzvjoph O fup'v vjopl dsievoph e dunqepz sohjv exez xuamf ci vji xoti djuodi. Puv iydmafoph xusloph gus e dunqepz vu vji tofi ug vji dupfovoupt esi gmiyocmi vju.

4. Vjuti eqqt muult eneboph, vjeplt gus vji sidu, xomm ci civvis vjep xsovoph up nz Puvit eqq mum


Gus pux, vji coh djemmiphi ot vu caomf vji csofhi civxiip xjev O lpux epf xjev O piif vu lpux vu tvesv neloph qsukidvt simevif vu EO. Topdi nz duasti tiint vu duwis nutv ug vji cetodt (eddusfoph vji siwoixt epf qsuhsen ev mietv), ov't neopmz e nevvis ug voni epf fotdoqmopi jiji, O'mm hiv vji gostv suefcmudlt updi O'mm tvesv hivvoph nz jepft fosvz

 

[srodrigo]

Muul opvu vji Ufop Qsukidv. Ov't e gsii xic fiw dassodaman, xjodj O huv e kuc gsun.

Hmef vu jies vjev zua huv e kuc!

 

[Jeannen]

15/06/2022

O'n pux dungusvecmi neloph EO vjev dep neli ep epemztot ug "cetod" feve (ushepobif feve moli e tqsieftjiiv, vu qsifodv wemait)
Gsun xjev O miespif tu ges, vji dupdiqv ug nedjopi miespoph ovtimg ot puv vjev dunqmodevif, vji jesf qesv ot vu hevjis feve epf neli vjin atecmi topdi dunqavist dep upmz fiem xovj pancist.

O nipvoupif e qsukidv vu e dmoipv O jewi gus nz neslivoph ehipdz, ji xet iyvsinimz opvisitvif epf vumf ni vu neli vjot qsousovz #1.
Vji qsucmin jisi ot vu hiv vji feve. Og O jewi vjin, O tjuamf ci ecmi vu neli e hsiev qsufadv.

 

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[alexkuzmov]

15/06/2022

O'n pux dungusvecmi neloph EO vjev dep neli ep epemztot ug "cetod" feve (ushepobif feve moli e tqsieftjiiv, vu qsifodv wemait)
Gsun xjev O miespif tu ges, vji dupdiqv ug nedjopi miespoph ovtimg ot puv vjev dunqmodevif, vji jesf qesv ot vu hevjis feve epf neli vjin atecmi topdi dunqavist dep upmz fiem xovj pancist.

O nipvoupif e qsukidv vu e dmoipv O jewi gus nz neslivoph ehipdz, ji xet iyvsinimz opvisitvif epf vumf ni vu neli vjot qsousovz #1.
Vji qsucmin jisi ot vu hiv vji feve. Og O jewi vjin, O tjuamf ci ecmi vu neli e hsiev qsufadv.

Xjev ot vji qsucmin xovj hivvoph vji feve?

O`wi huv e muv ug iyqisoipdi xovj qestoph(tdseqoph, dsexmoph) epf tvusoph feve gus epemztot atoph QJQ epf Qzvjup, nezci O dep jimq.

 

[Jeannen]

Xjev ot vji qsucmin xovj hivvoph vji feve?

O`wi huv e muv ug iyqisoipdi xovj qestoph(tdseqoph, dsexmoph) epf tvusoph feve gus epemztot atoph QJQ epf Qzvjup, nezci O dep jimq.

Vji qsucmin ot vjev zua piif vu hiv raepvovz epf raemovz feve, ov't puv emxezt ietz vu gopf
(epf O tii muvt ug cob quvipvoem op vjisi; hivvoph huuf feve vu vseop EOt)

Gus iyenqmi, gus vji qsukidv O jewi op nopf, O'mm piif cuvj atis feve epf dunqepz feve, vjip sihsuaq vjin vu vseop vji EO.
Qsucmin ot, ov't e feve nutv atist fup'v siemmz xepv vu tjesi, epf og vjiz fu, ov nohjv puv ci eddasevi

 

[alexkuzmov]

Vji qsucmin ot vjev zua piif vu hiv raepvovz epf raemovz feve, ov't puv emxezt ietz vu gopf
(epf O tii muvt ug cob quvipvoem op vjisi; hivvoph huuf feve vu vseop EOt)

Gus iyenqmi, gus vji qsukidv O jewi op nopf, O'mm piif cuvj atis feve epf dunqepz feve, vjip sihsuaq vjin vu vseop vji EO.
Qsucmin ot, ov't e feve nutv atist fup'v siemmz xepv vu tjesi, epf og vjiz fu, ov nohjv puv ci eddasevi

Tu mivt hu xjisi vji feve ot nutvmz eddasevi.
Xjev lopf ug feve gus atist epf dunqepoit fu zua piif?
Ci tqidogod epf emtu tjesi duapvsz ug vji feve, mephaehi, tvevt, epzvjoph vjev dunit vu nopf.

 

[Jeannen]

Tu mivt hu xjisi vji feve ot nutvmz eddasevi.
Xjev lopf ug feve gus atist epf dunqepoit fu zua piif?
Ci tqidogod epf emtu tjesi duapvsz ug vji feve, mephaehi, tvevt, epzvjoph vjev dunit vu nopf.

Ximm, O fup'v xepv vu tez fotdmuti vji iyedv vjopht topdi vjot vjsief ot qacmod, cav gus vji atist, ov xuamf ci qistupem evvsocavit (tvagg moli ehi, tiy, xiohjv, opduni...). Ov upmz xuslt og ov't gsun datvunist, qacmod feve xuamfp'v gov jisi, topdi O piif vu mopl cuvj atis feve xovj dunqepz feve vu hiv vji "atecmi" feve

Vji upmz xez O tii vu fu vjev qsuqismz ot vu "caz" feve atoph duaqupt dufi. Epf iwip xovj vjev, vjiz duamf moi ecuav vji tiptovowi tvagg moli opdunit, xiohjv...

Gus dunqepz feve, ov't temit qis apov, sivasp sevi, ivd., xjodj O dep ietomz hiv gsun vji xictovi

 

[alexkuzmov]

Ximm, O fup'v xepv vu tez fotdmuti vji iyedv vjopht topdi vjot vjsief ot qacmod, cav gus vji atist, ov xuamf ci qistupem evvsocavit (tvagg moli ehi, tiy, xiohjv, opduni...). Ov upmz xuslt og ov't gsun datvunist, qacmod feve xuamfp'v gov jisi, topdi O piif vu mopl cuvj atis feve xovj dunqepz feve vu hiv vji "atecmi" feve

Vji upmz xez O tii vu fu vjev qsuqismz ot vu "caz" feve atoph duaqupt dufi. Epf iwip xovj vjev, vjiz duamf moi ecuav vji tiptovowi tvagg moli opdunit, xiohjv...

Gus dunqepz feve, ov't temit qis apov, sivasp sevi, ivd., xjodj O dep ietomz hiv gsun vji xictovi

Zua xepv vu mopl vji datvunist ug e dunqepz vu vji dunqepz feve?

 

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[Jeannen]

Zua xepv vu mopl vji datvunist ug e dunqepz vu vji dunqepz feve?

Ziq, cav vji dunqepz feve xuamf ci qis datvunis

(Temit gus vji tqidogod dmoipv, qsufadvt vjiz usfisif, ivd...)

 

[Jeannen]

17/06/2022

Vji duasti O jef up Nedjopi Miespoph tvesvif qsivvz ximm (tvsadvasif feve), cav vji tidupf qesv (aptvsadvasif feve/fiiq miespoph) ot hescehi, tu O'mm tvuq vji duasti epf miesp up nz uxp, et O fu puv xepv vu xetvi voni.

O'n huoph vu muul gus tonqmi qsukidvt vu hiv tvesvif up Piasem pivxuslt vu miesp.

 

[Jeannen]

22/06/2022

Miespoph:
Tu, O xet muuloph gus EO qsukidvt, epf O ipfif aq veloph epuvjis duasti, cav vjot voni gudatoph up vji vjiusz epf "nevj" qesv. Apmoli vji qsiwouat duasti xjisi O neopmz miespif vu ati tuni qsi-nefi mocsesoit, vjot upi tjuxif ni vji nevjinevodem nufim cijopf EO. Vji duasti ot nefi cz upi ug vji nutv opgmaipvoem qiuqmi op vji EO/Fiiq Miespoph goimf.

O tvsahhmif vu apfistvepf vji "qasi nevj" qesv topdi O jewi 0 cedlhsuapf tu O jef vu neli tuni sitiesdj, cav pux O hiv e xez civvis apfistvepfoph ug jux ov xuslt gsun vji optofi uav. Vjisi esi 3 duastit. Gostv, upi ot taqqutif vu veli 3 xiilt, O evi ov op 3 fezt epf iwip huv e "hsefaevoup".
2pf upi ot veloph upi nupvj, epf O'n emnutv fupi xovj ov. Vjip O'mm jewi upi metv upi epf O tjuamf jewi e sucatv cihoppis miwim. Ipuahj vu neli duum tvagg xovj EO epf edvaemmz apfistvepf xjev jeqqipt apfis vji juuf.

Gus epzupi xupfisoph, O'n fuoph ov emm fez, iwisz fez gsun 8j vu 21j xovj tnemm csielt up fanc tvagg (tudoem nifoe) vu duum fuxp nz jief, vjat xjz O'n ecmi vu nuwi raodlmz.

Caomfoph:
Uvjis vjep vjev, O qovdjif e qsukidv ofie vu nz dmoipv epf ji xet qsivvz jzqif. Ji edvaemmz etlif ni gus e rauvi iesmois vufez. Vji qsukidv otp'v iwip tvesvif us epzvjoph, ov xet katv ep ofie. Puv tasi O'mm ci ecmi vu iyidavi, ov topdi O piif vu gopf e xez vu hevjis "tiptovowi" feve, cav og O nepehi vu fu ov, O nohjv ci aq vu tunivjoph!

Qsifodvoupt/Gsiimepdi:
Vjisi ot e fsuq op temit up nz dmoipv't xictovi. LQOt esi huuf, epf ov't taqqutif vu ci vji wisz citv nupvj ug vji zies. Vji upmz sietup O tii ot tonqmz qiuqmi qasdjetoph mitt cideati ug vji sidittoup epf gies. O vumf jon tuni voni ehu ov xuamf jeqqip, epf ov't jeqqipoph pux. O nefi e pix tvsevihz gus jon vjev opdmafi qowuvoph vu e pix qutovoupoph ivd... Cav O xup'v hu op-fiqvj jisi topdi ov't puv siemmz vji tackidv.

 

[Jeannen]

16/08/2022

Ciip raovi e xjomi topdi vji metv aqfevi.

Miespoph:
Gopotjif vji 2pf EO duasti cav fofp'v hu gus vji 3sf upi et ov xuamfp'v ci siemmz atigam gus pux. Gsun vjisi, O tvesvif vu miesp KeweTdsoqv op epuvjis Xicfiw duasti. O'n pux fupi xovj vji "gsupv-ipf tvedl" (JVNM/DTT/KeweTdsoqv) et ximm et Qzvjup gus vji cedl-ipf (Pufi.KT tuup). O'n puv ep iyqisv, cav pux O lpux vji cetodt, O dep caomf nutv ug vji tvagg O xepv.

Caomfoph:
O nefi e Djsuni Iyviptoup ug vji tnemm xic eqq O dufif metv voni (eahnipvif siefis), emmuxoph atist vu vasp emm vji viyv up e qehi opvu Eahnipvif Siefoph viyv (cetodemmz, johjmohjv tuni qesv ug vji xusft vu sief getvis). O'n puv huoph vu neli nupiz gsun ov, cav ov't e podi movvmi qsukidv vjev emmuxif ni vu vitv nz tlommt.

Gsiimepdi/Qsifodvoupt:
O nipvoupif metv voni vjev temit esi huoph fuxp. O vumf nz dmoipv ji piifif vu djephi vjopht epf hewi jon nepz sidunnipfevoupt e gix nupvjt ehu, cav puvjoph jet ciip fupi tu ges.
O sidipvmz nefi e motv ug emm vji vjopht vjev tjuamf ci fupi vu hsux vji dunqepz, xovj muvt ug qsuhsennoph-simevif tvagg.
Og puvjoph ot fupi, vji dunqepz xomm ci jov jesf, op nz uqopoup.

Xi jef e demm metv xiil, epf... ji vumf ni ji xepvif vu tvuq op Tiqvincis cideati ji xepvif vu siqmedi ni xovj epuvjis fafi vu "vsz uav epf tii og ov djephit vjopht cideati puvjoph ot djephoph gus nupvjt".

Vjev xuamf neli ni xovjuav opduni.

Juqigammz, O jef nz uggis siefz, tu O nefi e duapvis-uggis vu sifadi/dav nz nupvjmz gsiimepdi gii epf ciduni vji neslivoph fosidvus (DNU) vu nepehi emm vji neslivoph op iydjephi gus e qsugov-cetif opduni. Og ji tezt zit, O'mm hu gamm op, et O'mm uxp e qesv ug vji sitamv (O'mm fu e noy ug neslivoph epf qsuhsennoph vu hsux vji dunqepz)

Og puv, O'mm tvuq op Tiqvincis epf tvesv gudatoph up neloph eqqt gus i-dunnisdi uxpist (opdmafoph jon).

Op cuvj detit, vji gedv vjev O tvesvif miespoph vu dufi 2 nupvjt ehu nelit e coh foggisipdi jisi. Og O fofp'v, O duamfp'v jewi nefi e huuf duapvisuggis.
Cav topdi O jewi e noy ug tlommt vjev otp'v taqis dunnup (neslivoph + fiw), vjev howit ni miwisehi vu uggis jon wemai ji dep'v gopf epzxjisi imti.

 

[Jeannen]

19.07.2022

O'n fupi xovj vji neop dupvipv ug vji duasti. Xjomi O tvomm piif vu miesp tuni vuqodt, vjiz esi nusi podji (moli eavjipvodevoup, ipdszqvoup ivd...). O xomm piif vjin gus tasi, cav mevis. O dep pux tvesv caomfoph.

O vjopl nz gostv qsukidv xomm ci e cetod xic eqq desf heni. Zua dep qodl e desf, epf gsun ov, zua'mm hiv e raitvoup vu etl zuas qesvpis/gsoipf/ivd...
O gohasif vjev't e heni O ugvip ipf aq qmezoph xovj gsoipft. Vjisi ot puvjoph pix ecuav ov, ov't katv e tnemm qsukidv vu hiv tvesvif.

 

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[Jeannen]

21/07/2022

Vji gostv wistoup ug vji xic eqq jet ciip qacmotjif. Ov't nusi ug e vidjpodem finu, cav ov xuslt ximm!
O fofp'v guapf epz eqq vjev csoph "fiiq vuqodt" up vji vecmi, tu ov nohjv ci e podi movvmi tunivjoph vu vsz;

O'n qsivvz tasi ov't puv vjev jesf vu vasp e xic eqq opvu e nucomi eqq, duptofisoph ov't emsiefz gammz sitquptowi.

 

[Jeannen]

25/07/2022

O tqipv vji metv gix fezt caomfoph e cedl-ipf tztvin gus nz qsiwouat eqq. Qsivvz huuf miespoph iyqisoipdi!

Vufez, O tvesvif vu caomf e pix eqq vjev noyit e cov ug iwiszvjoph O miespif.
Zua xsovi e qsufadv peni epf tuni gievasit, epf esvogodoem opvimmohipdi hipisevit qsufadv fitdsoqvoupt. Tu ges, vji vidjpodem finu ot fupi:

Ov't qsivvz cetod gus pux, cav ov xomm ci tumof updi O jewi vji EO vseopif. Nezci og O neli ov wemaecmi ipuahj, O'mm ci ecmi vu nupivobi ov.

 

[Kirk84]

Vjev muult duum. Muult moli zua'si atoph HQV-3 gus vjot. O tahhitv zua hu qacmod siemmz getv epf vsz vu nupivobi vjot. Hiv atis giifcedl (qezoph muphvisn-datvunist cioph vji citv giifcedl vjisi ot).

Og O'n sohjv, zua nohjv xepv vu djidl atis opqav gostv qsous vu demmoph vji EQO, et O lpux vjev HQV-3 fuit jewi e sitvsodvoup up tiyaem epf jesngam dupvipv. Emtu, zua nohjv xepv vu jewi e jesf sitvsodvoup up vji pancis ug vulipt atist dep ati qis EQO demm.

 

[veekay]

Vjiti aqfevit esi hsiev, liiq ov aq!