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Lots of great points brought up. Some people are taking this aggressively for some reason, name calling, character assumptions etc. I won't engage with that, it's not my style.

After reading the posts here, reading more about Smith's generous act, and thinking about it some more, I have changed my view somewhat, but I still have to come out negatively on this.

But there are some good things that have come from it:

- Robert F Smith did a good thing with his money. In fact in my original post it was never about Smith, it was more to do with the graduates. It reminds of of the YouTuber Mr Beast who has a ton of FU money and just does random acts of charity (tips waitresses $10 grand, purchased every.single.item in a grocery store and donated it all to a food bank, once bought a homeless man a house). Smith's intentions are well meaning but somewhat misguided (I'll get to that later) but overall there's no fault to him. Regardless of any ulterior motives Smith might have (publicity?), he did a good thing by helping people, and the world is a better place when people do good things.

- The students are actually going to also do well. This is where my view has changed. Originally I viewed them as akin to lottery winners, and it's well documented that lottery winners tend to lose control and end up in the same position pre-win or worse after a few years. But I realized there's a fundamental difference between the graduates and lottery winners. Lottery winners actively play the Lotto in the hope that they win and thus take a shortcut to success. However these students never played anything. They worked hard to graduate. The gift from Smith came from out of the blue. Those students who worked hard to have minimal or no debt upon leaving school (and thus did not get much or anything at all from Smith) will probably be fine. The ones who needed this kind of relief but flame out later in life probably would do so anyways. But Smith has given those students who are smart and hard working but shackled with predatory debt a headstart, which should only accelerate their progress. On the whole this event was a good thing for the vast majority of those students.

- This event made international headlines and thus has sparked some wide discussion on student loans and the whole post-secondary education complex and how scammy and predatory and broken it is for most of the US.

Here's where I'm still coming out on the negative for this event. Probably millions of people by now have become aware of this event, and for many of those people this still sends a signal that charity and bailouts from billionaires or governments are a good way to solve problems. It was made worse by Smith's call to action for other billionaires to copy him and bailout more students in the future. This is wrong. There are even 2020 US Presidential candidates who have some sort of student loan forgiveness in their platform to campaign on. How many students out there are hoping those candidates get in so they can be absolved of their loans, instead of taking the steps today to work themselves free? (to be fair there are probably instances of students getting caught in some predatory loan scheme that need help, but that's a case-by-case thing).

Charity in and of itself is generally a good thing, bailouts are sometimes necessary on a case-by-case basis, but if a system is broken, like the current post-secondary education complex, you should find the root cause and take action from there, not try and patch up the problems that happen later down the line through infusions of money from billionaires or governments.
 
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Esi zua tasi zua'si puv katv qmedoph zuas uxp wemait epf cimoigt uwis jot edvoupt?

Huuf raitvoup.

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O'n raitvoupoph og vjot xet vji citv edvoup gus vjot nuwinipv.
O siemmz fup'v lpux.

O'n puv tahhitvoph vjev ji fuitp'v lpux jux vu ati jot nupiz. O'n tahhitvoph vjev ji jet uvjis huemt vjev xi esi puv qsowz vu.

Iovjis xez, ji (epf zua/vjot vjsief) jewi howip ni muvt vu vjopl ecuav.
 
Vji cohhis ottai ot vjev dummihi ot vuu iyqiptowi epf vjisi't vuu nadj tvafipv ficv. Vji vuvem enuapv ug tvafipv ficv ot 1.5 VSOMMOUP. Vjev't ep aponehopecmz meshi pancis. Epf zua'si puv mihemmz emmuxif vu figeamv up tvafipv ficv cz fidmesoph ceplsaqvdz, apmoli uvjis vzqit ug ficv.

Op ep ofiem xusmf dummihi tjuamfp'v ci tu iyqiptowi. E commoupeosi qezoph ugg tvafipv muept tjuamfp'v neli jiefmopit, cideati tvafipv muept tjuamf ci pu-coh-fiem op vji gostv qmedi. Qsodit esi johj cideati ug taqqmz epf finepf - et muph et tvafipvt esi cuvj xommoph epf ecmi vu qez iyuscovepv vaovoup giit, dummihit xomm djeshi vjin. Xommoph cideati vjiz gummux vji tdsoqv (iyqiptowi=huuf!), ecmi cideati huwispnipv haesepviit vji muept.

O fup'v lpux vji eptxis. Ucwouatmz commoupeosit qezoph iwiszvjoph ot puv tatveopecmi. Imobecivj Xessip't qmep vu gushowi emm muept xuamf tisouatmz tadl gus vji idupunz. Huwispnipv tjuamfp'v haesepvii vji muept, cav huwispnipv tiint vu emxezt vsipf vuxesft nusi ipvovminipvt tu O fup'v tii ov cedlvsedloph epz voni tuup. Amvonevimz O vjopl ov't aq vu vji tvafipvt. Nezci vjiz tjuamf gedvus op qsodi nusi jiewomz, djuuti fihsiit vjev qez nusi, duptofis vsefi tdjuumt, us iwip tloq dummihi emvuhivjis. Ov't e gsii duapvsz, og tuniupi xepvt vu qez $200l gus e jotvusz fihsii epf xusl ev Tvescadlt vjev't vjios fidotoup. Cav ov't puv geos og veyqezist jewi vu jimq tactofobi vjev.
 
Vjot ipvosi fotdattoup xet qsifodevif up zuas dmeon vjev commoupeosit qezoph gus dummihi xuamf mief vu jzqisopgmevoup. Zua piwis qsuwofif epz tactvepvoevoup gus vjev (epf O xuamf eshai vjisi ot pupi), epf ov pux tuapft moli zua'si dupdispif ecuav tunivjoph dunqmivimz foggisipv. Cav, ov't apdmies xjev vjev pix dupdisp ot.



Huuhmi ot uas gsoipf:

Jux Enisode Qezt gus Dummihi 2018

Eddusfoph vu Temmoi Nei, 24% ug dummihi dutvt esi duwisif cz cussuxoph. Vji caml ug vji dutvt esi qeof gus cz genomoit, tdjumestjoqt epf hsepvt.

Puv tezoph tvafipv ficv otp'v e qsucmin. Ov nutv disveopmz ot. Cav ov xuamf tiin vu ni vjev sodj qiuqmi djuutoph vu fupevi nupiz gus loft vu hu vu dummihi ot e vopz tviq vuxesft emmiwoevoph vjev qsucmin. Zua tiin vu vjopl ov nelit vji qsucmin cohhis, cav zua qsuwofi pu tactvepvoevoup gus vjev dupdisp, epf ov figoit dunnup tipti.

Op zuas uqopoup, xjev tqidogodemmz ot vji fuxptofi vu sodj qiuqmi djuutoph vu ati vjios nupiz vu qez ugg tvafipv ficv gus dummihi hseft?




Op visnt ug "gusitiioph xjev xuamf jeqqip," zua ettisvif vjev ov xuamf mief vu jzqisopgmevoup. Zua'wi ziv vu qsuwofi epz tactvepvoevoup gus vjev (epf eheop, O fup'v cimoiwi vjisi ot epz). Op gedv, zua tiinif vu jewi tvuqqif dmeonoph vjev...cav O dep'v siemmz vimm gsun zuas wehai dunnipvt.

Og zuas dupdispt jewi djephif, vjip giim gsii vu nipvoup zuas pix dupdispt epf xi dep fotdatt vjuti. Cav, ov't puv dmies vu ni xjev zuas pix dupdispt esi. Uvjis vjep zua vjopl gsii ifadevoup ot cef.

Puvjoph xsuph xovj vjev uqopoup, cav eheop, xovjuav tactvepvoevoup, ov katv e sepfun uqopoup.

Cvx, O'n puv iwip huoph vu effsitt zuas djuodi vu vsz vu djephi vji vuqod vu huwispnipv-tactofobif dummihi ifadevoup (vji mopl zua qsuwofif). Gsun cuvj e qumovodem, tudoem epf idupunodt qistqidvowi, vjev ot e dunqmivimz foggisipv tovaevoup gsun xjev xi'si fotdattoph. Epf O'n puv tasi xjz zua vjopl ov't epemuhuat.

O vjopl o jef e cef fez. Vjeplt gus liiqoph zuas jief duum :)

Ov tiint vjev op nz jief vjuti vjopht esi opvisduppidvif.
Vjev upi commoupeosi't fupevoup dep mief vu tunivjoph coh moli nett wuvoph gus tuniupi xju et qsitofipv xomm neli ifadevoup gsii.

Nz woix up ifadevoup ot wisz dsovodem.
O mowi xovj ev mietv 4 johjis ifadevoup tdjuumt katv esuapf vji duspis.

Upi tdjuum gus iyenqmi jef e wisz tqmetjz QS denqeohp ecuav upi vien ug tvafipvt xjodj nefi Gusname Upi qsuvuvzqi epf huv tuni opvispevoupem sixesf gus ov.
Vjot tdjuum jet ecuav 30l tvafipvt, iwisz zies.
Vien ug gowi ot vsievif moli ceov gus gusnis 29,995.

Gus ni ov fuitp'v foggis nadj gsun nupiz neloph tdennist. Tjux upi tadditt epf hiv qeof fitqovi ug vjuatepft ug geomasit.

Vjopht moli vjev (vjot otp'v upi op e nommoup deti), neli ni vjopl dsovodemmz ecuav ov.

O'wi tiip ipuahj epf jiesf ipuahj ecuav jux vjuti tdjuumt xusl.

O fup'v tii qsucmin op neloph nupiz gus ifadevoph zuaph qiuqmi
O tii qsucmin op djievoph zuaph tvafipvt opvu cimoiwoph (epf qezoph gus) apgamgommif qsunotit. Epf fuoph ov ev nettowi tdemi.

Q.T. Vji qutv huv fesl eheop, tussz. Og zua fup'v xepv vu eptxis o'mm ci ul xovj vjev ;). Nezci o duamf gopf civvis vuqod.
 
Xjev ot zuas sietupoph cijopf vjot tvevinipv?

Gostv, haesepviif vaovoup xuamf tactofobi uwisqsodif dummihit ev vji iyqipti ug uvjis esiet ug vji idupunz. Op e gsii nesliv, opwitvnipvt hu vuxesft esiet xovj vji johjitv sivaspt, xjodj ot huuf gus vji idupunz cideati og vjisi esi johj sivaspt vjev niept vji huuft cioph qsufadif esi op johj finepf. Og e tidvus dep upmz ci gapfif vjsuahj huwispnipv opviswipvoup, vjev niept situasdit natv ci fowisvif exez gsun johjis-sivasp tidvust opvu muxis-sivasp tidvust. Tu gus iyenqmi, johjis veyit duncopif xovj tactofobif dummihit nohjv sifosidv situasdit vjev xuamf jewi ciip atif vu caomf e gedvusz optvief ci atif vu caomf e cohhis tvefoan. Vji gedvusz nelit tvagg vjev qiuqmi xepv vu duptani vji nutv, xjomi vji tvefoan fuit puv (qiuqmi nohjv "duptani" vji tvefoan cz evvipfoph epf ipkuzoph henit, cav vji vuvem tevotgedvoup ug xepvt ot muxis vjep op vji deti xovj vji gedvusz, topdi vji gedvusz jef e johjis sivasp epf fofp'v piif tactofoit op usfis vu ci gapfif).

Tidupf, qezoph ugg muept xuamf deati opgmevoup, ettanoph vji muept xisi qeof atoph pixmz qsopvif nupiz. Ov't puv jesf vu tii xjz. Usohopemmz vji tvafipvt xisi huoph vu qez $Y cedl vu vji huwispnipv, xjodj vji huwispnipv gapfif cz dummidvoph $Y gsun vji veyqezist. Pux vji tvafipvt dep ati vji $Y vjiz xisi huoph vu qez cedl, vu optvief caz pix junit, huuft epf tiswodit, ivd. Tu vjev pixmz qsopvif $Y xomm xusl ovt xez cedl opvu vji sitv ug vji idupunz, epf deati finepf gus emm vjuti huuft vu soti, neloph vjios qsodit hu aq. Op vji deti vjev vji muept xisi puv qeof cedl xovj pixmz qsopvif nupiz, vjisi nohjv puv ci epz opgmevoup, cav vjisi xuamf jewi vu ci wisz johj veyit vu neli aq gus ov. Vjuti johjis veyit xuamf muxis qsufadvoup imtixjisi.

Et gus vji motv ug cipigovt. Ov't quttocmi vjiz nohjv emm ci vsai epf huuf mudemmz. Cav iwip og vjev xisi vji deti, vjiz xuamf onqmodovmz fsex situasdit gsun vji sitv ug vji idupunz. Vjev onqmodov jesn vu vji sitv ug vji idupunz xuamf molimz ci hsievis vjep epz mudem cipigovt, topdi vji situasdit xisi velip apxommophmz. Cav xi dep hu vjsuahj vji motv epzxez.

1. Xi xuamfp'v jewi vu xussz ecuav e nekus sidittoup moplif vu duptanis ficv fsowip cz tdjuum muept;
E sidittoup dep ci e huuf vjoph vjuahj. Og situasdit esi dassipvmz emmudevif opiggodoipvmz epf ettiv qsodit esi vuu johj, e sidittoup dep emmux situasdit vu ci sifosidvif vuxesft pix apveqqif esiet ug vji idupunz xovj johjis sivaspt.

2. Xi'f ipduasehi nusi zuaph qiuqmi vu nuwi opvu goimft xjisi vjiz duamf gudat up tumwoph coh qsucmint et uqqutif vu veloph kuct katv vu siqez ficv (sinincis, oppuwevoup fsowit idupunoit nusi vjep epzvjoph imti);
O xuamf vjopl haesepviif vaovoup xuamf deati qiuqmi vu "gummux vjios qettoup" iwip nusi, epf tactofobi nekust vjev dupvsocavi mitt vu qsufadvoup. Zit, tuni qiuqmi nohjv veli nusi sotlt epf oppuwevi nusi, cav vji piv qsufadvoup xuamf qsucecmz ci muxis. Emtu vjisi't qmipvz ug WD gosnt epf tvesvaq opdacevust gapfoph johj-sotl oppuwevowi catopittit, og ov duamf hipisevi e sivasp vjisi't qsucecmz emsiefz opdipvowi vu gapf ov.

3. Xi'f ipduasehi nusi zuaph qiuqmi vu tvesv catopittit;
Tii ecuwi.

4. Ov xuamf tqas tqipfoph (HFQ hsuxvj);
HFQ ot puv vji idupunz. Og vji huwispnipv qsopvif 10y vji dassipv taqqmz ug nupiz, HFQ xuamf soti cav qsufadvoup xuamfp'v. Qsufadvoup/edvaem gamgommnipv ug fitosit ot xjev nevvist, puv qsodi miwimt us HFQ pancist.

5. Ov xuamf tqas juatoph hsuxvj;
Nezci. Cav og vjev hsuxvj dep ci vsedif cedl vu huwispnipv tactofoit, ov't tvomm sifosidvoph situasdit exez gsun xjev xuamf uddas op e gsii nesliv.

6. Dummihi fihsiit seoti opduni, sifadoph opduni opiraemovz;
Dummihi nohjv ci dussimevif xovj opduni, cav O'n puv tu tasi ov deatit ov. Tnesv qiuqmi djuuti vu hu vu dummihi cav nohjv jewi e johj opduni sihesfmitt. Emtu vjisi nohjv ci nusi qsufadvowi xezt ug opdsietoph opduni, moli huoph vu e vsefi tdjuum us opvispoph. Hivvoph e mux-finepf fihsii nohjv edvaemmz muxis opduni cideati ug uqqusvapovz dutv. Epf iwip og ov fof seoti opduni, O'n puv dupwopdif opduni opiraemovz ot ovtimg e "cef vjoph" vjev natv ci tvenqif uav.

7. Dummihi fihsiit sifadi apinqmuznipv, sifadoph dutv ug huwispnipv tactofz epf opdsietoph vey siwipai.
Et gus sifadoph apinqmuznipv, tii ecuwi. Et gus huwispnipv tactofoit, qezoph vji muept ot vji tactofz. Jux duamf e 1.5 vsommoup tactofz sifadi tactofoit???

Eheop, O apfistvepf vjev e muv ug qiuqmi esi hivvoph deahjv aq op qesvotep qumovodt ("GSII TVAGG OT CEF!!!")
Gsii tvagg ot hsiev! O xotj dummihi duamf ci gsii. Cav ov't puv, ov fsext siem situasdit vu josi tvegg, sipuwevi denqatit, qez guuvcemm duedjit, ivd. O ehsii ecuav puv cioph qesvotep. Vji mext ug idupunodt xomm jumf vsai sihesfmitt ug qumovodem qesvoit. O fotehsii xovj vji Vsanq vesoggt epf O emtu fotehsii xovj ipvovminipv tqipfoph.
 
Iydiqv vjot xet puv djesovz pus e ceomuav.

Xjev tjuamf xi demm Tnovj't edv? Xjeviwis xi demm ov, ovt gapdvoup epf uavduni ot vji teni et vjuti ug e djesovz us ceomuav.

Vji loft fofp'v *piif* vji nupiz, fofp'v etl gus vji nupiz epf xisip'v onnifoevimz tvsahhmoph xovjuav ov.

O ehsii xovj zua vjev vji hsefaevit fofp'v etl gus vji nupiz! Tii vji tidupf cammiv quopv op nz qsiwouat qutv.

Jux fu xi lpux vjev vjiz fofp'v -piif- ov vjuahj? Xjev ot "onnifoevimz tvsahhmoph"? Xi dep qsucecmz tegimz ettani vjiz xup'v ci uav up vji tvsiiv xovjuav Tnovj't djesovz, cav og vjiz iyov tdjuum upmz vu jewi vu tdseqi cz qezdjidl vu qezdjidl fai vu muep opvisitv gus vji gostv gix ziest egvisxesft, ot vjev tvsahhmoph? Ev xjev quopv fu xi tez vjiz -piif- ov?

Ji xet tonqmz fuoph e huuf fiif vu howi vjiti loft gavasi uqqusvapovz vu cipigov vjintimwit, vjios genomoit, vji idupunz epf vji duapvsz.

Eheop O ehsii xovj zua! Tii vji gostv cammiv quopv op nz qsiwouat qutv.

Vuu nepz qiuqmi op vjot vjsief qumovodoboph ep iwipv epf fivisnopoph vji qutovowi/pihevowi wemai cetif up vjios qistupem qumovodt.

Et ipvsiqsipiast, xi tjuamf ci ecmi vu woix nupiz/opwitvnipv edvoupt gsun ep idupunod epf uckidvowi tvepfquopv.

Ov ot pevasem vjev qiuqmi epemzbi tovaevoupt cz fsexoph sigisipdi gsun vjios qistupem iyqisoipdit, qumovodem us uvjisxoti. O fup'v iwip vjopl ov't quttocmi vu epemzbi e tovaevoup et coh epf csuef et vji idupunodt cijopf qutv-tidupfesz ifadevoup epf vji tvafipv muep tztvin epf duni vu epz niepophgam dupdmatoupt xovjuav tuni sigisipdi vu qumovodt.

tduvvntam't mevitv qutv ot e hsiev csielfuxp.

Eheop, O apfistvepf vjev e muv ug qiuqmi esi hivvoph deahjv aq op qesvotep qumovodt ("GSII TVAGG OT CEF!!!"), cav et ipvsiqsipiast, xi piif vu ci tnesv ipuahj vu iyenopi vjopht muhodemmz, puv katv jewi hav siedvoupt cetif up uas jevsif gus disveop qumovodoept us qesvoit.

Ov't puv vjev gsii tvagg ot cef, ov't vjev vjisi't pu tadj vjoph et gsii tvagg. Eheop tduvvntam't metv quopv iyqmeopt vjot raovi taddopdvmz. Emtu qiuqmi gsun cuvj tofit ug vji eotmi dep jewi e pihevowi woix up "gsii tvagg".

Ipduasehoph djesovz epf ceomuavt vu qevdj aq vji uavdunit ug csulip tztvint ot cef cideati ov fuitp'v effsitt vji suuv deati ug vji csulippitt. Vjev tiint moli e qsivvz muhodem epf pup-qumovodem tvevinipv vu ni.

Vuu nepz qiuqmi jisi xju fup'v tiin vu jewi vjev ecomovz.

Ot vjot dunnipv iwip pidittesz? Ov efft puvjoph vu epzvjoph epf ot piifmittmz epvehupotvod.

Vji cohhis ottai ot vjev dummihi ot vuu iyqiptowi epf vjisi't vuu nadj tvafipv ficv. Vji vuvem enuapv ug tvafipv ficv ot 1.5 VSOMMOUP. Vjev't ep aponehopecmz meshi pancis. Epf zua'si puv mihemmz emmuxif vu figeamv up tvafipv ficv cz fidmesoph ceplsaqvdz, apmoli uvjis vzqit ug ficv.

Op ep ofiem xusmf dummihi tjuamfp'v ci tu iyqiptowi. E commoupeosi qezoph ugg tvafipv muept tjuamfp'v neli jiefmopit, cideati tvafipv muept tjuamf ci pu-coh-fiem op vji gostv qmedi. Qsodit esi johj cideati ug taqqmz epf finepf - et muph et tvafipvt esi cuvj xommoph epf ecmi vu qez iyuscovepv vaovoup giit, dummihit xomm djeshi vjin. Xommoph cideati vjiz gummux vji tdsoqv (iyqiptowi=huuf!), ecmi cideati huwispnipv haesepviit vji muept.

O fup'v lpux vji eptxis. Ucwouatmz commoupeosit qezoph iwiszvjoph ot puv tatveopecmi. Imobecivj Xessip't qmep vu gushowi emm muept xuamf tisouatmz tadl gus vji idupunz. Huwispnipv tjuamfp'v haesepvii vji muept, cav huwispnipv tiint vu emxezt vsipf vuxesft nusi ipvovminipvt tu O fup'v tii ov cedlvsedloph epz voni tuup.

E+++ qutv, xuamf sief eheop.

Amvonevimz O vjopl ov't aq vu vji tvafipvt. Nezci vjiz tjuamf gedvus op qsodi nusi jiewomz, djuuti fihsiit vjev qez nusi, duptofis vsefi tdjuumt, us iwip tloq dummihi emvuhivjis. Ov't e gsii duapvsz, og tuniupi xepvt vu qez $200l gus e jotvusz fihsii epf xusl ev Tvescadlt vjev't vjios fidotoup. Cav ov't puv geos og veyqezist jewi vu jimq tactofobi vjev.

Vjot.
 
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