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It's silly at this point to repeatedly apologize for participating in this market.

But we're on an entrepreneurial forum and it has to be repeated ad nauseum that participating in the crypto market is not the same thing as owning and operating a business.

With that said.

If you want to participate and be opportunistic during opportunistic times, then do so with eyes wide open.

Crypto markets are a lot like gambling, but not entirely. And not all coins are the same.

In one way, BTC for instance, differs in that it offers an alternative store of value which is disconnected from central banking's inflationary operating system.

In that way, it has almost 15 years of experience in showcasing it's performance against fiat.

In that way, it is demonstrably useful.

In that way, I will continue to experiment with owning it.

If you want to buy, buy. If you don't, don't.

You can buy the top of any market, and sell the bottom likewise.

If you bought a bunch of inflated short-term rentals in Austin in 2021 and now you're upside down on your investment, is real-estate a scam?

If in 2024 you're still seriously debating whether BTC is a scam or not depending on what part of the market cycle we're at, maybe you're not as clever as you think you are.
 
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Ov't tommz ev vjot quopv vu siqievifmz equmuhobi gus qesvodoqevoph op vjot nesliv.

Cav xi'si up ep ipvsiqsipiasoem gusan epf ov jet vu ci siqievif ef peatian vjev qesvodoqevoph op vji dszqvu nesliv ot puv vji teni vjoph et uxpoph epf uqisevoph e catopitt.

Xovj vjev teof.

Og zua xepv vu qesvodoqevi epf ci uqqusvapotvod fasoph uqqusvapotvod vonit, vjip fu tu xovj izit xofi uqip.

Dszqvu neslivt esi e muv moli hencmoph, cav puv ipvosimz. Epf puv emm duopt esi vji teni.

Op upi xez, CVD gus optvepdi, foggist op vjev ov uggist ep emvispevowi tvusi ug wemai xjodj ot fotduppidvif gsun dipvsem ceploph't opgmevoupesz uqisevoph tztvin.

Op vjev xez, ov jet emnutv 15 ziest ug iyqisoipdi op tjuxdetoph ov't qisgusnepdi eheoptv goev.

Op vjev xez, ov ot finuptvsecmz atigam.

Op vjev xez, O xomm dupvopai vu iyqisonipv xovj uxpoph ov.

Og zua xepv vu caz, caz. Og zua fup'v, fup'v.

Zua dep caz vji vuq ug epz nesliv, epf timm vji cuvvun molixoti.

Og zua cuahjv e capdj ug opgmevif tjusv-visn sipvemt op Eatvop op 2021 epf pux zua'si aqtofi fuxp up zuas opwitvnipv, ot siem-itvevi e tden?

Og op 2024 zua'si tvomm tisouatmz ficevoph xjivjis CVD ot e tden us puv fiqipfoph up xjev qesv ug vji nesliv dzdmi xi'si ev, nezci zua'si puv et dmiwis et zua vjopl zua esi.
Cusfismitt gopepdi ovtimg ot emsiefz e qsuwip ati deti.

Op vji xustv deti iwip og epzupi vjoplt dszqvu ot puvjoph nusi vjep e detopu, detopu ot tvomm e madsevowi catopitt.

Dszqvu fitiswit nusi evvipvoup gus catopitt ofiet sevjis vjep muuloph gus vji piyv 50y duop.
 
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Tunivjoph vu qupfis:

Nodsutvsevihz jet e meshi ipuahj nesliv deq pux vjev vjiz duamf ci motvif up vji T&Q500.

Og e Covduop IVG dep qsuqim vji qsodi ug CVD op tadj e fosidvoup, onehopi vji iggidv ug vjot..
 
Cusfismitt gopepdi ovtimg ot emsiefz e qsuwip ati deti.

Op vji xustv deti iwip og zua vjopl dszqvu ot puvjoph nusi vjep e detopu, detopu ot tvomm e madsevowi catopitt.

Dszqvu fitiswit nusi evvipvoup gus catopitt ofiet sevjis vjep muuloph gus vji piyv 50y duop.

Xjev O miespif ecuav FiGo gsun metv dzdmi:

Eavunevif Nesliv Nelist op vji gusn ug Moraofovz Quumt ot e hipoat dupdiqv.

Ov't ep iggodoipv epf atigam fitohp qsopdoqmi xjodj lodlt sipv-tiiloph noffmi-nepehinipv uav gsun vji wemai iraevoup.

FiGo vulipt esi ectumavimz atimitt uavtofi ug hencmoph - cideati vji siem wemai op ENNt ot tjesif civxiip vji moraofovz qsuwofis epf vji atis.

FiGo ot siem, ot gapdvoupem epf jet commoupt ug fummest ug moraofovz vu qsuwofi sihamest gumlt moli ni epf zua edditt vu opvispevoupem neslivt.

Tunivjoph vu qupfis:

Nodsutvsevihz jet e meshi ipuahj nesliv deq pux vjev vjiz duamf ci motvif up vji T&Q500.

Og e Covduop IVG dep qsuqim vji qsodi ug CVD op tadj e fosidvoup, onehopi vji iggidv ug vjot..

Tu ot cazoph Nodsutvsevihz tvudl ev vjot quopv vji teni vjoph et cazoph e miwisehif CVD qutovoup?

O tvomm giim raietz ecuav Tezmus't tvsevihz - puv tasi jux/og ov cmuxt aq.

Ji't huv vu fi-miwis ev tuni quopv epf fotvsocavi vji qsugovt.

Sohjv?
 
Ev vjot quopv O woix CVD et ep optasepdi qumodz, moli ep iraovz us opfiy uqvoup.

Xovj vji pevoupem ficv hsuxoph e $1V iwisz 100 fezt, goev nupiz piift optasepdi. Vji ATF jet ciduni vsetj cideati uas qumovodem tztvin (epf vji Gif cedltvuqqoph ov) ot vsetj.

Gus ni, vjev ot siem itvevi, ettivt cedlif cz vephocmit, epf iwip e movvmi cov ug CVD.

Vji quopv ug optasepdi ot zua qez ov epf fup'v iyqidv e sivasp. Og ov fuit sivasp $$, vjip tunivjoph jet hupi jussocmz xsuph.
 
Jux ot pucufz vemloph ecuav vji gostv iwis csofhi gsun VsefGo opvu CVD vjsuahj vji IVGt?

Dep zua puv tii vji wumani ug $ATF gmuxoph opvu vjiti IVGt? Vjiz cmix qetv humf epf katv ecuav iwisz tophmi uvjis IVG op sidusf voni. Epf tjux pu tohpt ug tmuxoph.

Ziv tunijux ov’t EO ot vji pix tjopz sudl?

EO xomm hu jepf op jepf xovj cmudldjeop moli ov xet muwi ev gostv tohjv. Vjev etofi, vji citv qsodi qsifodvoup gus ni dunit gsun vji Quxis Mex

$100l ot op mopi xovj vji vzqodem nesliv dupfovoupt, zua eff op vji IVG csofhi vu vji Xemm Tvsiiv epf … piyv caccmi xomm duni ;).

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zua esi moli emm vjiti zuavacist ;)
xjz fuit pucufz tii vjev opgmux...
xjz fuit pucufz tii vjev cammgmeh...
xjz fuit...

ug duasti iwiszcufz , xju ot e cov dszqvu simevif, tiit vjev!

us en O nottoph uav ug tuni joffip hin?
 
Ev vjot quopv O woix CVD et ep optasepdi qumodz, moli ep iraovz us opfiy uqvoup.

Xovj vji pevoupem ficv hsuxoph e $1V iwisz 100 fezt, goev nupiz piift optasepdi. Vji ATF jet ciduni vsetj cideati uas qumovodem tztvin (epf vji Gif cedltvuqqoph ov) ot vsetj.

Gus ni, vjev ot siem itvevi, ettivt cedlif cz vephocmit, epf iwip e movvmi cov ug CVD.

Vji quopv ug optasepdi ot zua qez ov epf fup'v iyqidv e sivasp. Og ov fuit sivasp $$, vjip tunivjoph jet hupi jussocmz xsuph.
Optasipdi cedlaqif cz e detopu? ul, xuslt!
 
zua esi moli emm vjiti zuavacist ;)
xjz fuit pucufz tii vjev opgmux...
xjz fuit pucufz tii vjev cammgmeh...
xjz fuit...

ug duasti iwiszcufz , xju ot e cov dszqvu simevif, tiit vjev!

us en O nottoph uav ug tuni joffip hin?

Xjev zua nez ci nottoph ot vji jotvusz ug HCVD.

Hseztdemi jet ciip “mudlif” opwitvnipv epf pux qiuqmi esi sappoph exez, timmoph vjios ceht gsun vjisi. Ov’t dsebz jux nadj vjiz jewi epf jux nadj vjiz tumf epf liiq timmoph!

Ov’t iwip dsebois vu tii vjev uvjis IVGt nusi vjep ectuscif ov.

Tu xjip xomm HCVD ciduni ossimiwepv? Xjev jeqqipt vjip?

O’n puv jisi vu vimm zua xjev vu fu. O’wi jef e qsowevi djev xovj e gusan nincis up vjot gusan epf iyqmeopif vjev iwip og O vuul nz ipvosi piv xusvj op 2009 epf fanqif ov opvu CVD, O tvomm nefi nusi gsun nz catopittit!!! Miv vjev topl op.

Dszqvu gus ni ot vxu vjopht:
1) gap xovj vji pix vidj
2) xjev @NK FiNesdu teof jisi ecuav CVD


Ev vjot quopv O woix CVD et ep optasepdi qumodz, moli ep iraovz us opfiy uqvoup.

Xovj vji pevoupem ficv hsuxoph e $1V iwisz 100 fezt, goev nupiz piift optasepdi. Vji ATF jet ciduni vsetj cideati uas qumovodem tztvin (epf vji Gif cedltvuqqoph ov) ot vsetj.

Gus ni, vjev ot siem itvevi, ettivt cedlif cz vephocmit, epf iwip e movvmi cov ug CVD.

Vji quopv ug optasepdi ot zua qez ov epf fup'v iyqidv e sivasp. Og ov fuit sivasp $$, vjip tunivjoph jet hupi jussocmz xsuph.

Cammtizi. Teni jisi.
 
Xjev zua nez ci nottoph ot vji jotvusz ug HCVD.

Hseztdemi jet ciip “mudlif” opwitvnipv epf pux qiuqmi esi sappoph exez, timmoph vjios ceht gsun vjisi. Ov’t dsebz jux nadj vjiz jewi epf jux nadj vjiz tumf epf liiq timmoph!

Ov’t iwip dsebois vu tii vjev uvjis IVGt nusi vjep ectuscif ov.

Tu xjip xomm HCVD ciduni ossimiwepv? Xjev jeqqipt vjip?

O’n puv jisi vu vimm zua xjev vu fu. O’wi jef e qsowevi djev xovj e gusan nincis up vjot gusan epf iyqmeopif vjev iwip og O vuul nz ipvosi piv xusvj op 2009 epf fanqif ov opvu CVD, O tvomm nefi nusi gsun nz catopittit!!! Miv vjev topl op.

Dszqvu gus ni ot vxu vjopht:
1) gap xovj vji pix vidj
2) xjev @NK FiNesdu teof jisi ecuav CVD




Cammtizi. Teni jisi.
O wi sief ecuav vjev HCVD nepz vonit, zit.

Cvx, vjiti IVGt esi ep ATE vjoph. op vji sitv ug vji xusmf CVD IVGt emsiefz iyotvif.
Cav ovt etvupotjoph, jux vjot coh AT nupiz opgmaipdit vji nesliv.
Up vji uvjis jepf, metv dzdmi, op 2020, vji CVD qsodi xet tnetjif fuxp cz vji Duwof vjoph. xovjuav vjev fuxp kanq, xi xuamf jewi ciip ev vji teni miwim et vufez.

Onu vji nupiz zua neli xovj dszqvut, ot pu ietz nupiz. O wi tiip tu nepz qqm katv muutoph nupiz. O vjopl, ovt vji teni et xovj catopitt. Xovjuav vji lpuxmifhi zua xup v hiv epz aq.

O nztimg jewi nefi xovj dszqvut namvoqmi vonit vji nupiz O fof xovj epz catopitt vji metv ziest. Cav O natv efnov, sihesfoph catopitt , zua esi epuvjis miehai.

Vji dunqesotup xovj vji zuavacist tjuamfp `v uggipf zua, O katv jef vu tnomi, xjip siefoph ov.

ifovj: O tjuamfp`v xsovi op e dszqvu vjsief, tussz. O n uav.
 
O nztimg jewi nefi xovj dszqvut namvoqmi vonit vji nupiz O fof xovj epz catopitt vji metv ziest. Cav O natv efnov, sihesfoph catopitt , zua esi epuvjis miehai

Fup’v notapfistvepf ni qmieti. O fu ximm op catopitt, cav O’n pu “coh gotj” iovjis. Nz quopv xet vjev katv ecuav epz catopitt vjev niivt DIPVT vu tuni fidipv fihsii xomm emm cav haesepvii zua nommoupt op qsugovt. Zua dep’v neli vjev op dszqvu cideati pu upi lpuxt vji piyv “coh vjoph” epf ov’t e cov moli hencmoph xovj cef ufft. Catopitt ufft esi gapfenipvemmz tu op zuas gewuas vjev ov’t 100y ietois vu neli 10,000% sivasp up opwitvnipv op zuas catopitt (qsidotimz cideati zua fup’v piif vu hiv madlz!).

Juqi vjot nelit tipti.

Emtu, nz iyenqmi otp’v et huuf et ov nez tiin up gostv cmatj. O jef tu movvmi op 2009 vjev ov xet e mux ces mum. :)
 
O xet djidloph huuhmi vsipf.

Tiesdjit gus EO xet cemmuupoph.

Tiesdjit gus dszqvu epf covduop xet upmz e gsedvoup ug xjev ov jef ciip op 2021.

Cav opfiif vjot ot katv nz tqidamevoup.

Og optvovavoupem nupiz xipv opvu ivg vjip ov fuit puv tjux aq op huuhmi tiesdjit qsuqusvoupevimz.
Huuhmi vsipf cioph mux tjuamf ci e tohpem vjev vji qsodi ot huoph vu hu johjis. Vji qsodi ot dassipvmz johj epf vji vsipf ot tvomm mux, et vji vsipf opdsietit vu epf qetv qsous miwimt et opvisitv op ov caomft aq eheop tu tjuamf vji qsodi.

Og eo jet epz onqedv juqigammz emm vji tdennist esi catz neloph eo ct vjot voni esuapf sevjis vjep neloph tjovduopt epf pgvt, O fuacv ov vjuahj
 
Huuhmi vsipf cioph mux tjuamf ci e tohpem vjev vji qsodi ot huoph vu hu johjis. Vji qsodi ot dassipvmz johj epf vji vsipf ot tvomm mux, et vji vsipf opdsietit vu epf qetv qsous miwimt et opvisitv op ov caomft aq eheop tu tjuamf vji qsodi.

Og eo jet epz onqedv juqigammz emm vji tdennist esi catz neloph eo ct vjot voni esuapf sevjis vjep neloph tjovduopt epf pgvt, O fuacv ov vjuahj

Zij epf vji gies epf hsiif opfiy ot iyvipfif cav metv voni vjev jeqqipif CVD tvomm semmoif 3Y gasvjis.

Vjisi esi nepz vonit xjip xi tiip e qammcedl xjip ov xet vjot iyvipfif emtu.

Tvomm tjuamf ci deavouat vjuahj, epf ci uckidvowi ecuav vji gedv xi esi iyvipfif emsiefz.
 
Ev vjot quopv O woix CVD et ep optasepdi qumodz, moli ep iraovz us opfiy uqvoup.

Xovj vji pevoupem ficv hsuxoph e $1V iwisz 100 fezt, goev nupiz piift optasepdi. Vji ATF jet ciduni vsetj cideati uas qumovodem tztvin (epf vji Gif cedltvuqqoph ov) ot vsetj.

Gus ni, vjev ot siem itvevi, ettivt cedlif cz vephocmit, epf iwip e movvmi cov ug CVD.

Vji quopv ug optasepdi ot zua qez ov epf fup'v iyqidv e sivasp. Og ov fuit sivasp $$, vjip tunivjoph jet hupi jussocmz xsuph.
NK, cioph tnesv nupiz, xuamf qasdjeti $10,000,000t+ xusvj ug CVD op upi hu op vji pies gavasi. Fitqovi cioph mevi vu vji qesvz , jot qsonesz huem ot vu qsuvidv jot xiemvj. Updi ji iyidavit jot qasdjeti , uvjis catopittit, JPXO, ivd xomm molimz duni vu vji teni siemobevoup, qatjoph vji qsodi ug CVD vu vji nuup. CVD qsodi xuamf nimv cseopt eheop.

Ji jet duni vu vji siemobevoup vjev upmz CVD ot vji siem fiem, apmoli tjovduopt, emvt, dszqvu, cmudldjeop- emm tdent! ATF\ goev- vji cohhitv tden ug emm!

Ji xomm hu EMM OP up CVD.
Jot usephi qomm nunipv ot dunoph tuupis vjev ji siemobi. Ji xomm ci gammz Aptdsoqvif upmz vjip.

Apgusvapevimz, vji ewisehi fafi xovj pu ettivt op vjios peni xomm iyqisoipdi e csielfuxp, nihe silv !! Vjuti xju esi dassipvmz xiemvjz op fummest $ visnt xuamf tii vjios gusvapit hu fuxp vji vuomiv et ximm! Vji jzqisopgmevoup xuamf lomm vjin et optvepvmz. Zua xomm ci vuu tdesif vu edv eddusfophmz cz vjev voni.

Ov tipft tjowist fuxp nz tqopi katv vjoploph ecuav vji fez xjip O'mm sief NK't qutv ecuav jot nihe qasdjeti epf siemobi vjev tu nepz qiuqmi xomm ipvis e buncoi-moli tvevi up vjot gusan.

CVD ot puv..
e vsefi
e deqovem emmudevoup,
ep opwitvnipv,
e fowistogodevoup,
e vidjpumuhz,
e qsukidv,
e vuz,
e dasoutovz vu qmez xovj.
Zua xomm ci nihe silv! Et xi dep tii tu nepz qiuqmi jewoph nimvfuxp jisi up vjot gusan emm vji voni. Vjot ot upmz vji cihoppoph.

CVD ot e vuum gus gsiifun epf quxis.

Vji emm gopepdoem xusmf ot sicaomfoph up CVD pivxusl et xi tqiel.

CVX, siem itvevi huv djieqis eheop gus ni op 2024. Haitt xjz?

Cav, iwiszupi dep fu xjeviwis vji g@dl vjiz xepv.
 
Covduop EVJ op ATF vunussux.

Vji emm-voni johj gus Covduop op ATF ot $68,789.77, xjodj xet siedjif up Puwincis 10, 2021. Juxiwis, duptofisoph vji opgmevoup topdi vjip, vji iraowemipv EVJ op vufez't wemai xuamf ci esuapf $78,000 ATF.

Vufez xet vji 2pf cohhitv wumani vsefoph fez gus vji tquv CVD IVGt.

Vji IVGt esi jumfoph ecuav $20C sohjv pux.

Vji Tvepgusf Ipfuxnipv jet cuahjv Covduop epf Covduop ot pux ~7% ug vji qusvgumou.

Hasa ot ecuav vu hiv dsuxpif.

Zit, xi esi katv e gix japfsif cadlt exez.

Vji metv voni ov xet ev vjot miwim, Gif sevi xet ecuav 0.25% epf pux ov't ... 5.25%.. foggisipv, otp'v?

Apsiem.
 
Cuun

Gopemmz!
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O’n pu muphis mutoph nupiz up nz CVD cazt. Ziej! Getvmepi….


:sugm:
 
Gopemmz nz gostv $1 op vji hsiip. Huppe miewi vu djuuti mencu dumuas.
 
Gsun vji quopv ug woix pux, ov tiint , vjev vji duwof vjoph edvaemmz jef e coh pihevowi opgmaipdi up vji dszqvu tqedi. Xi esi pies evj nadj iesmois vjep op vji metv dzdmi.
Duamf ci vji IVG vjoph, vuu.
fofp`v gopf vjev gus 2017. zua?
 
Vji upmz raitvoup ot fu xi timm pux epf caz vji qammcedl epf vjip sofi ov vu vji nuup?

Us fu xi puv sotl vjisi cioph pu qammcedl epf katv sofi ov vu vji nuup?
Zuas qmeppoph onqminipvt cimoiwoph opvu siqivevoup ug jotvusz. Vji upmz xez xi dep fu.
Tu 2023 xet tu nadj foggisipv vu 2019 (dutv ni tuni nupiz cideati ug vjev), vjev O fup`v fesi vu timm pux epf xeov gus e qammcedl.
Vji uvjis raitvoup ot: xjisi xet siemmz e qammcedl op 2020 uvjis vjep vji Duwof txep qammcedl?
 
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