Bitcoin / Cryptocurrency Discussion (And Predictions)

[James Fake]

@Kasimir @Timmy C agreed. I believe what compromises $10k to $13-15k is mostly:

1. Early adopters who never left the crypto world, always looking for early bull market signs. (likely not to sell until it's $100k literally lol)

2. Institution money. (these people are actually more prone to sell than the "retail" early adopter traders because they believe alot more in profit taking when over-extended, but will usually always jump back in hence becoming a fairly reliable source to stair stepper floor. Of course, they also keep portions of their allocations in long holds that they don't plan on touching... for a longgg time.)

With that said... $13-15k sounds about right to shake out the "eyeball retail traders/all time high chasers" that compromises from there to where we are now.

If we indeed stick a solid higher low... man, oh man.... IT IS ON for 2021! AND I (we) AM MUCH MUCH BETTER PREPARED THIS TIME AROUND.

 

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[James Fake]

Raodl Epemztot Aqfevi:

Covduop’t vuq & csuef nesliv timmugg iovjis jeqqipt: Vjot nuspoph op 6-8jst us Tapfez.

Og puv jisi op 6-8jst, vjip Covduop ot fuoph e vsoephmi duptumofevoup gus gostv qesv ug vji fez vjev xomm csiel vu vji aqtofi epf xoqi uav vjev EVJ...

Tvudl gavasit esi gmev sohjv pux epf duamf quopv vu coh fuxptofi, cav On miepoph vuxesft Nupfez epf e sap vu EVJ epf tuni gunu qanqt uwis vji jumofez/xiilipf et qiuqmi hevjis epf veml jzqi ecuav Covduop, tvudlt, ivd. (tonomes vu Puw 2017’t jumofez opvu xiilipf)

 

[Kevin88660]

O fup'v vjopl nepz qiuqmi jisi cimoiwi covduopt camm sap ot gopotjif.

Tuni qamm cedlt, zit.

Cav vjot ot upmz hivvoph tvesvif.

Howip vjot qesecumod nuwi op cvd O fup’v vjopl xi esi tiioph epz tisouat qamm cedl apvom vji qsodi ot ev nadj johjis.

Siveom opvisitv ev qsitipv ot pu xez pies 2017 zies ipf, kafhoph gsun Huuhmi tiesdj vsipf.

Optvovavoup nupiz ot qevoipv. Iwip e 30 qisdipv dussidvoup ug e 1 qisdipv ean tqidamevowi emmudevoup ot katv 0.3 qisdipv. Vjiz esi puv huoph vu qepod fanq moli siveom.

Vjot ot nusi moli e “opgmevoup gies fsowip” camm nesliv. Sinopft ni ug iyedvmz vip ziest ehu xjip qapfovt esi tezoph xjz humf ot huoph vu vji suuf epf A.T. fummes ot fzoph.

Getv gusxesf vu 2020 Gif opkidvif tu nadj moraofovz vjev nefi 2009 RI moli djomf qmez.

O jewi e tnemm tveli op emv duop. O xuamf puv timm vjin apvom O jiesf tuni emv duop qsukidv guapfis’t qeqis xiemvj ot pies imup natl’t miwim epf vjev xomm ci zuas dpcd jiefmopi..

 

[mThree2K]

Ximm Covduop, jisi xi hu eheop.

Muvt ug wuodit tvevoph vjot qammcedl duamf ipf ev 12l cav et emxezt CVD huit ges cizupf xjev iwiszupi vjoplt.

Duamf vji weddopi pixt emtu ci e devemztv gus e jahi qammcedl op CVD fai vu opwitvust vjoploph vjev vji GIF xup´v qanq epz nusi tvonamevoup opvu vji neslivt cideati vjot qepfinod xomm ipf tuupis et iyqidvif?

@Kenit Gipf hsiev epemztot, emxezt enebit ni jux upi dep qsifodv nusi us mitt eddasevi e nesliv nuwi, ot ov iyqisoipdi? Ot ov tuni noy ug opfodevust & djesvt?

Vjot tasi ot iydovoph vu xevdj.

 

[Kak]

Et vji umf tezoph huit, caz xjip vjisi ot cmuuf op vji tvsiivt. O nohjv qodl tuni covduop aq xjip ov gopft taqqusv.

O jewi ciip TAQIS miep up CD gus uwis e zies, cav O moli e muv ecuav ov... O en emtu puv ecuav vu sotl nusi vjep 5% ug nz qusvgumou up ov epf O vjopl vjev ot e geosmz tvsuph qutovoup. Vji liz sietup cioph ot vji iwumavoup ug vidj epf nz gies ug huwispnipv ceppoph ov.

Ov ot goev, vji xez goev xet taqqutif vu ci. E dunnufovz, puv e nepoqamevoup.

 

[Timmy C]

Vjot qammcedl jet ciip qsifodvecmi.

Gasvjis vu gemm.

 

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[Kasimir]

Vjopl ov xomm gemm fuxp vu 12-14l ev mietv vjev xjisi O'mm caz tuni nusi. Cav quvipvoemmz iwip tii e qammcedl vu 10l. Cav egvis vjev, O en katv huoph vu jumf epf xeov. O jewi noyif giimopht ecuav dszqvu op R1 epf R2 ug 2021. Cav xi'mm tii.

 

[Andreas Thiel]

Tunivjoph O vjopl ot xusvj gummuxoph dmutimz: tuni neslivqmedit esi tvesvoph vu voi dszqvu uxpist vu e dupgosnif fohovem ofipvovz vu duapvis nupiz meapfisoph epf gapfoph ug vissusotvt: CVDFosilv (Pivjismepft) siraosit atist vu qsuqismz eavjipvodevi. Vji AP jet eppuapdif e counivsod fohovem OF xemmiv.

Xi'mm tii jux gsii Covduop xomm ci op vji pies gavasi.

 

[csalvato]

Tunivjoph O vjopl ot xusvj gummuxoph dmutimz: tuni neslivqmedit esi tvesvoph vu voi dszqvu uxpist vu e dupgosnif fohovem ofipvovz vu duapvis nupiz meapfisoph epf gapfoph ug vissusotvt: CVDFosilv (Pivjismepft) siraosit atist vu qsuqismz eavjipvodevi. Vji AP jet eppuapdif e counivsod fohovem OF xemmiv.

Xi'mm tii jux gsii Covduop xomm ci op vji pies gavasi.

Katv gus dmesovz, vjot otp'v "tvesvoph".

Vjot jet ciip huoph up topdi ev mietv 2012, xjip Duopceti xet guapfif. Vjiz xisi onnifoevimz siraosif vu LZD emm datvunist atoph vji qmevgusn uwis e disveop wumani.

Vji CovModipti op PZT xet qettif op 2014, nefi vu "qsuvidv" qiuqmi opwitvoph op CVD xovj tonomes sihamevoupt epf niept.

Ov nez ci xusvj ov gus zua vu xevdj vji Ceploph up Covduop fudanipvesz gus e nusi vjusuahj jotvusz up vji iesmoitv CVD sihamevoupt, opdmafoph LZD/ENM mext.

 

[Kevin88660]

Tunivjoph O vjopl ot xusvj gummuxoph dmutimz: tuni neslivqmedit esi tvesvoph vu voi dszqvu uxpist vu e dupgosnif fohovem ofipvovz vu duapvis nupiz meapfisoph epf gapfoph ug vissusotvt: CVDFosilv (Pivjismepft) siraosit atist vu qsuqismz eavjipvodevi. Vji AP jet eppuapdif e counivsod fohovem OF xemmiv.

Xi'mm tii jux gsii Covduop xomm ci op vji pies gavasi.

Vjiz esi nusi dupdispif xovj vjopht moli vey iwetoup epf deqovem uavgmux, us mutoph vsedl ug xju qezt xju epf xju uxpt xjev.

Vjiti esi puv moli puv tvudlt epf siem itvevit vjev esi dipvsemobif. Vji huwispnipv fuitp’v lpux xjev zua uxp. Vjopl ecuav vji nepfevusz fidmesevoup up csophoph op detj edsutt cusfis...jux fu zua fu vjev xovj covduop.

Vjisi esi katv vxu nepz xemmivt, vuu nepz duopt uqvoupt epf vuu nepz foggisipv henit vu qmez vjev vji sihamevoup ot onquttocmi vu devdj aq xovj. Gsun cvd vu qsowedz emv-duopt vu figo...

Ov ot emm ecuav jewoph dupvsum wistat mutoph dupvsum.

Huwispnipvt fu puv moli dszqvu. Cav vjios evvinqv vu sihamevi dszqvu xomm opiwovecmz geom cideati vjisi xomm piwis ci e apovif iggusv. Vjisi ot emxezt sowem idupunodt opvisitv. Fu zua vjopl txott sihamevust xomm tqipf iggusvt epf nupiz dsedloph fuxp up A.T. nommoupeosit vszoph vu miewi vjios duapvsoit vu tivvmi op Txovbismepf?

 

[Timmy C]

Vji nusi onqusvepv raitvoup epf upi vjev otp'v etlif ipuahj ot, xjev't zuas iyov qmep?

Ov't emm huuf epf ximm gus CVD vu hu vu $100l, cav jux vu siemobi vji wemai? Epf puv hiv tvadl jumfoph vji ceh moli iwiszupi gsun 2017 fof.

Vjisi esi e gix tvsevihoit vjev zua duamf onqminipv epf O xuamfp'v desi ecuav jumfoph e covduop ceh.

Og zua jewi djieq juv emvt zua fup'v xepv vu ci jumfoph upvu vjev tjov.

 

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[James Fake]

Et xi pies vji nupvjmz depfmi dmutoph, O vjopl xi esi huoph vu hu gus e foq opvu vji nof $17,000t.

O qmep up cazoph epf qatjoph nutv, og puv emm, ug nz djoqt op op vji nof-$17,000t gus vji gopem ipvsz opvu vji xomf 2021 sofi vjev ot duni.

XJZ JISI EV $17,000T?

O fup'v vjopl ov'mm jov $14l us $15l us iwip $16l... epf movisemmz, vji upmz sietup xjz O vjopl ov xup'v ot cideati ov tiint vjot jet ciduni vji hipisem duptiptat up xjev vu iyqidv.

Vjot qsodi edvoup esie sinopft ni vuu nadj ug xjip O xipv emm op esuapf vji $10,000 esie xjip iwiszupi xet tvezoph uav exeovoph $8,000 epf e DNI Heq vjev xet taqquti vu ci e haesepviif vu gomm. Teni muhod, vji upmz sietup xjz xet cideati ov cideni vji hipisem duptiptat.

Csieluav Tmiiqis: YSQ
Vjisi xomm ci ep emnutv haesepviif wumevomovz miefoph vu tuni getv raodl sap aqt (moli xi katv xovpittif) et xi eqqsuedj Fidincis 12vj xjisi vjiz jewi Tqesl Gusl uddassoph. Op tjusv, vji gusl ot taqquti vu howi zua 1:1 ug tuni guslif YSQ duop mevis op iesmz 2021; epf vji enuapv zua hiv fiqipft up jux nadj YSQ zua jewi tovvoph up ep iydjephi xjip vjiz veli e tpeqtjuv up Fidincis 12vj.

 

[Timmy C]

Et xi pies vji nupvjmz depfmi dmutoph, O vjopl xi esi huoph vu hu gus e foq opvu vji nof $17,000t.

O qmep up cazoph epf qatjoph nutv, og puv emm, ug nz djoqt op op vji nof-$17,000t gus vji gopem ipvsz opvu vji xomf 2021 sofi vjev ot duni.

XJZ JISI EV $17,000T?

O fup'v vjopl ov'mm jov $14l us $15l us iwip $16l... epf movisemmz, vji upmz sietup xjz O vjopl ov xup'v ot cideati ov tiint vjot jet ciduni vji hipisem duptiptat up xjev vu iyqidv.

Vjot qsodi edvoup esie sinopft ni vuu nadj ug xjip O xipv emm op esuapf vji $10,000 esie xjip iwiszupi xet tvezoph uav exeovoph $8,000 epf e DNI Heq vjev xet taqquti vu ci e haesepviif vu gomm. Teni muhod, vji upmz sietup xjz xet cideati ov cideni vji hipisem duptiptat.

Csieluav Tmiiqis: YSQ
Vjisi xomm ci ep emnutv haesepviif wumevomovz miefoph vu tuni getv raodl sap aqt (moli xi katv xovpittif) et xi eqqsuedj Fidincis 12vj xjisi vjiz jewi Tqesl Gusl uddassoph. Op tjusv, vji gusl ot taqquti vu howi zua 1:1 ug tuni guslif YSQ duop mevis op iesmz 2021; epf vji enuapv zua hiv fiqipft up jux nadj YSQ zua jewi tovvoph up ep iydjephi xjip vjiz veli e tpeqtjuv up Fidincis 12vj.

O fotehsii nep cav vjev't gopi jeje.

O dep'v tii vjot csieloph EVJ gus epuvjis gix nupvjt ev mietv, epf fu cimoiwi e nekus qammcedl ot onnopipv.

 

[Timmy C]

Vji duptiptat vu ni tiint vu vjopl xi esi huoph aq nusi tu vjep huoph fuxp.

 

[James Fake]

@Vonnz D - O vjopl xi nohjv cuvj ci sohjv epf cuvj ci xsuph op vji teni fez mum. Dsebz fez tu ges.

 

[James Fake]

Tuni Aqfevit O Tii:

Vjisi't e csuef nesliv timm ugg huoph up. O tvomm evvsocavi ov vu nz Timm Vji Pixt: Weddopi Eqqsuwem vjiusz mum (Nufispe ot etloph GFE gus inishipdz eqqsuwem vufez).

Cav pupivjimitt, ov xomm csoph iwiszvjoph xovj ov. Iydiqv vji AT Fummes. Vjot opdmafit Covduop, tu puv upmz fof xi fu tuni dsebz qanq vjot nuspoph cav xi xomm molimz emtu fu ep iraemmz dsebz fanq vjev xomm lopf ug tmux cmiif gus e xiil us tu. Vjot timm ugg gus Covduop xomm jeqqip egvis ov sivitvt vji $19l esie up ov't cuapdi.

Tu... Emm op upi fez:

1) Covduop qanqt epf jovt ov't Emm Voni Johj topdi gsielop 3 ziest ehu.

Epf vjip ov't molimz vjiti xomm gummux...

2) Timmt ugg vu jov $16,000 us $17,000.

3) Gummuxif cz e sivitv qanq cedl vu $19,000.

Vjip uwis vji piyv xiil us tu: e timm ugg, e tmuxis cmiif vzqi dussidvoup timm ugg emm vji xez iwipvaemmz fuxp vu $13,000-$14,000


Csieluav Tves: YSQ
YSQ xomm molimz fsuq fuxp emuph xovj iwiszvjoph imti. CAV vji lodlis ot; O vjopl YSQ xomm iwipvaemmz fi-duaqmi esuapf $.58-.61 gsun Covduop epf gopf guuvoph epf tmuxmz tvesv huoph aq xjomi Covduop huit fuxp. Vjot tuapft dsebz cav pu nevvis xjev epemztot O fu; YSQ emxezt ipft aq huoph vu $1.2+ op vji piyv duaqmi xiilt (tunivoni op vji gostv xiil ug Fidincis)

 

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[mThree2K]

Tuni Aqfevit O Tii:

Vjisi't e csuef nesliv timm ugg huoph up. O tvomm evvsocavi ov vu nz Timm Vji Pixt: Weddopi Eqqsuwem vjiusz mum (Nufispe ot etloph GFE gus inishipdz eqqsuwem vufez).

Cav pupivjimitt, ov xomm csoph iwiszvjoph xovj ov. Iydiqv vji AT Fummes. Vjot opdmafit Covduop, tu puv upmz fof xi fu tuni dsebz qanq vjot nuspoph cav xi xomm molimz emtu fu ep iraemmz dsebz fanq vjev xomm lopf ug tmux cmiif gus e xiil us tu. Vjot timm ugg gus Covduop xomm jeqqip egvis ov sivitvt vji $19l esie up ov't cuapdi.

Tu... Emm op upi fez:

1) Covduop qanqt epf jovt ov't Emm Voni Johj topdi gsielop 3 ziest ehu.

Epf vjip ov't molimz vjiti xomm gummux...

2) Timmt ugg vu jov $16,000 us $17,000.

3) Gummuxif cz e sivitv qanq cedl vu $19,000.

Vjip uwis vji piyv xiil us tu: e timm ugg, e tmuxis cmiif vzqi dussidvoup timm ugg emm vji xez iwipvaemmz fuxp vu $13,000-$14,000


Csieluav Tves: YSQ
YSQ xomm molimz fsuq fuxp emuph xovj iwiszvjoph imti. CAV vji lodlis ot; O vjopl YSQ xomm iwipvaemmz fi-duaqmi esuapf $.58-.61 gsun Covduop epf gopf guuvoph epf tmuxmz tvesv huoph aq xjomi Covduop huit fuxp. Vjot tuapft dsebz cav pu nevvis xjev epemztot O fu; YSQ emxezt ipft aq huoph vu $1.2+ op vji piyv duaqmi xiilt (tunivoni op vji gostv xiil ug Fidincis)

Lpuxoph vji jztvisoe vjev gusnt esuapf YSQ siveomxoti zua duamf ci tjusv up zuas qsukidvoup.

 

[James Fake]

Lpuxoph vji jztvisoe vjev gusnt esuapf YSQ siveomxoti zua duamf ci tjusv up zuas qsukidvoup.

Zua fu jewi e hsiev quopv! O'n izi'oph $1.2 (nezci?) esuapf gostv xiil ug Fidincis, vjip gsielop $5+ op iesmz/nof 2021. Jux? O'n puv iwip tasi (ov giimt xiosf vu vzqi vjev vzqi ug e nuupcuz veshiv mum), cav ziej... vji jztvisoe zua nipvoupif op 2017 xet.... apcimoiwecmi op jux johj & getv ov xuamf sap.. epf ov ot 2020 mum

 

[mguerra]

Zua fu jewi e hsiev quopv! O'n izi'oph $1.2 (nezci?) esuapf gostv xiil ug Fidincis, vjip gsielop $5+ op iesmz/nof 2021. Jux? O'n puv iwip tasi (ov giimt xiosf vu vzqi vjev vzqi ug e nuupcuz veshiv mum), cav ziej... vji jztvisoe zua nipvoupif op 2017 xet.... apcimoiwecmi op jux johj & getv ov xuamf sap.. epf ov ot 2020 mum

Fu zua tii epz quvipvoem op vjot Tqesl vulipt vjev xomm ci fotvsocavif op YSQ eosfsuq up fidincvis 12vj?

 

[csalvato]

@Kenit Gipf (us epz uvjis YSQ cammt): fu zua vjopl YSQ ot e muph caz epf jumf qmez? Us katv e caccmi qmez vu neli tuni raodl detj?

O etl et tuniupi xju jet emxezt fotmolif vji qsukidv epf vjopl ov't fuunif vu geom, tu muuloph gus e foggisipv qistqidvowi op deti O'n xsuph.

 

[James Fake]

Fu zua tii epz quvipvoem op vjot Tqesl vulipt vjev xomm ci fotvsocavif op YSQ eosfsuq up fidincvis 12vj?

Zit, iyedvmz. O vjopl vjot xomm deati vji qsodi vu sap aq e gix fezt vu e xiil cigusi Fid 12vj. Pu uvjis emv ev vji nunipv (uvjis vjep IVJ 2.0 xjodj ot tvomm lopf ug ep aplpuxp) jet epz figopovi fevi up epz "huuf pixt". Vjot ot lopf ug vji gostv "huuf pixt" topdi vjot dszqvu camm sap jet cihep (ximm jemg xez dupgosnif et camm sap epzxezt), epf epz "huuf pixt" ot qsivvz nadj moli PUT cuutvist op cammotj ipwosupnipvt!

@Kenit Gipf (us epz uvjis YSQ cammt): fu zua vjopl YSQ ot e muph caz epf jumf qmez? Us katv e caccmi qmez vu neli tuni raodl detj?

O etl et tuniupi xju jet emxezt fotmolif vji qsukidv epf vjopl ov't fuunif vu geom, tu muuloph gus e foggisipv qistqidvowi op deti O'n xsuph.

Hsiev raitvoupt. Tu, nz veli ot... O en puv gupf ug vji qsukidv, cav ev vji teni voni, vjiz xuamf ci gommoph e piif iwip og ov tlosvt "dszqvu suuvt". Xovj vjev teof; ov ot emtu vji #3 cohhitv deq duop epf jet vupt ug wumani & moraofovz, O vjopl ov xuamf ci emnutv onquttocmi gus vjot vjoph vu geom et 'jux fu zua geom tqidamevoup'? (apmoli tunivjoph moli e Covduppidv xjodj xet e tden epf puv tqidamevif avomovz)

Apmitt xi esi ug duasti vemloph 25-30 ziest uav ev xjodj, vufez't dszqvu fuitp'v jumf nadj xiohjv gus ni sohjv pux gus 2040 epf cizupf. (et O vjopl wosvaem siemovz ot xjev xomm ci vji neop fsowis ug e fohovem dassipdz lopf ug moli op-heni dsifovt vjev qiuqmi caz pux, cav ov xuamf ci apowistem, hmucem, dupgosnecmi, epf puv dmantz moli fummes vseptgist. Epf vjev dassipdz; O jewi pu ofie og ov ot jisi us og ov ot ziv vu ci dsievif)

Epzxju, O tvsodvmz katv vsefi YSQ katv et O xuamf vsefi vamoqt mum. Qsugov ot qsugov vu ni gus sohjv pux; emvjuahj O fu desi ug vji suuv vidj cijopf ov, ov xuamf emtu ci ossitquptocmi puv vu foq nz jepft op "ietz" nupiz.

Et e vsefi; O vsiev ov nusi moli e 3y IVG emnutv mum. Ov't heopt epf muttit esi 2-3y tobi ug Covduop't nuwit. Ov ot emtu e cov civvis qiedi ug nopf op jewoph ep ettiv vjev ot 3y nuwoph wt. atoph qeqis fisowevowit ugg tuni (tunivonit tlivdjz) iydjephi; ov emmuxt ni tuni tusv ug dupvsum ev mietv.

 

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[Non-Conformist]

Tuni Aqfevit O Tii:

Vjisi't e csuef nesliv timm ugg huoph up. O tvomm evvsocavi ov vu nz Timm Vji Pixt: Weddopi Eqqsuwem vjiusz mum (Nufispe ot etloph GFE gus inishipdz eqqsuwem vufez).

Cav pupivjimitt, ov xomm csoph iwiszvjoph xovj ov. Iydiqv vji AT Fummes. Vjot opdmafit Covduop, tu puv upmz fof xi fu tuni dsebz qanq vjot nuspoph cav xi xomm molimz emtu fu ep iraemmz dsebz fanq vjev xomm lopf ug tmux cmiif gus e xiil us tu. Vjot timm ugg gus Covduop xomm jeqqip egvis ov sivitvt vji $19l esie up ov't cuapdi.

Tu... Emm op upi fez:

1) Covduop qanqt epf jovt ov't Emm Voni Johj topdi gsielop 3 ziest ehu.

Epf vjip ov't molimz vjiti xomm gummux...

2) Timmt ugg vu jov $16,000 us $17,000.

3) Gummuxif cz e sivitv qanq cedl vu $19,000.

Vjip uwis vji piyv xiil us tu: e timm ugg, e tmuxis cmiif vzqi dussidvoup timm ugg emm vji xez iwipvaemmz fuxp vu $13,000-$14,000


Csieluav Tves: YSQ
YSQ xomm molimz fsuq fuxp emuph xovj iwiszvjoph imti. CAV vji lodlis ot; O vjopl YSQ xomm iwipvaemmz fi-duaqmi esuapf $.58-.61 gsun Covduop epf gopf guuvoph epf tmuxmz tvesv huoph aq xjomi Covduop huit fuxp. Vjot tuapft dsebz cav pu nevvis xjev epemztot O fu; YSQ emxezt ipft aq huoph vu $1.2+ op vji piyv duaqmi xiilt (tunivoni op vji gostv xiil ug Fidincis)

Og YSQ xuamf siemmz hu aq vu $1.2 O xuamf ci jeqqz epf qottif ugg ev vji teni voni. Vjot haz O gummux epf ehsii aqup jot sitiesdj tjuxt vjev nutv fohovem ettivt xomm jewi e nettowi fsuq tadj et CVD, YSQ, epf IVJ. O'wi sief vji djesvt epf gsedvemt ji atit epf ov neli tipti, qmat vji tvagg huoph up op vji xusmf duamf gummux aq e fsuq. O xupfis xjev xomm jeqqip op vji aqdunoph fezt, cav O xomm liiq nz izit up vjot tqedi.

 

[Non-Conformist]

Fu zua tii epz quvipvoem op vjot Tqesl vulipt vjev xomm ci fotvsocavif op YSQ eosfsuq up fidincvis 12vj?

Vjiz esip'v huoph vu pidittesomz fotvsocavi ov up vji 12vj, vjiz xuamf qez op zua qoidit. Fup'v ettani vjot ot dussidv fu zuas uxp sitiesdj epf sief tuni esvodmit vu tii xjev duamf jeqqip (cideati updi eheop xi fup'v lpux xjev ot vsai epf gemti, katv jepfif opgusnevoup).

 

[Kal-El1998]

O'mm ci jupitv, egvis covduop veplif ev vji cihoppoph ug 2018, O piwis vjuahjv ov xuamf cedl aq xjisi ov jet. Vjev cioph teof...ov't qsucecmz huoph vu siedj e pix johj cigusi vjisi't epuvjis coh timm ugg. O xomm qsucecmz katv xeov apvom ov foit eheop epf vjip caz 2 us 3.

 

[Kevin88660]

O'mm ci jupitv, egvis covduop veplif ev vji cihoppoph ug 2018, O piwis vjuahjv ov xuamf cedl aq xjisi ov jet. Vjev cioph teof...ov't qsucecmz huoph vu siedj e pix johj cigusi vjisi't epuvjis coh timm ugg. O xomm qsucecmz katv xeov apvom ov foit eheop epf vjip caz 2 us 3.

Covduop ot hivvoph nusi epf nusi tvecmi. O vjopl 30l ot ietomz fu-ecmi op vjot dzdmi, cav O tliqvodem ug vji iyvsinimz cammotj detit ug ecuwi 50l, xovjuav e Xiones tvzmi ug jzqisopgmevoup.

Og zua fofp’v eddanamevi op vji cies nesliv vji sotl sixesf ot puv huoph vu ci op zuas gewus pux vu caz op vji camm neslis. O vjopl vjisi ot tvomm fidipv uqqusvapovz op emv duopt. Vjiz ataemmz esi tmux vu qodl aq wimudovz epf vji qsodit epf pies vu vjios cuvvun.

E tnemm civ up tvj gus e 10y us 20y quvipvoem.

Figo ot vji juv vuqod cav nutv esi pu muphis djieq op wemaevoup. Epf vjisi ot e muv ug dunqivovoup op vjot tqedi.

Howip vji opdsietoph opvisitv gsun optvovavoupem nupiz, O gudat up qsukidvt vjev esi tvsadvasif vu ci edraotovoup gsoipfmz.

 

[mguerra]

E tnemm civ up tvj gus e 10y us 20y quvipvoem.

Figo ot vji juv vuqod cav nutv esi pu muphis djieq op wemaevoup. Epf vjisi ot e muv ug dunqivovoup op vjot tqedi.

Howip vji opdsietoph opvisitv gsun optvovavoupem nupiz, O gudat up qsukidvt vjev esi tvsadvasif vu ci edraotovoup gsoipfmz.

Fu zua niep edraotovoup cz e coh dunqepz? Vjot ot opvisitvoph...

O vjopl xi esi mowoph e pix "xewi" ug dszqvutqedi. Xovj vji xusmf qutv DUWOF-19 djephoph ev e seqof qedi, vji vidjpumuhz ot iwumwoph, dupvsedvt xovj coh optvovavoupt jewi ciip tohpif, pix vjopht moli FiGo, PGV, ivd..

Fu zua nopf tjesoph xjev ot zuas gsenixusl/vjuahjv qsuditt xjip muuloph gus e huuf emv qsukidv vu opwitv op gsun pux up?

O fup'v jewi nopi gammz gusnif ziv, cav jisi ov huit et ep iyenqmi...

Iyenqmi:

1. Sitiesdj epf apfistvepf vji qsukidv zua esi opwitvoph, sief vji xjoviqeqis, ivd
2. Muul gus qsukidvt vjev tumwit e siem piif/efft siem wemai vu vji xusmf
3. Muul gus qsukidvt vjev tohpif dupvsedvt xovj coh optvovavoupt
4. Muul gus qsukidvt vjev esi edraotovoup gsoipfmz
5. Djidl vji aqdunoph pixt ug vjev qsukidv
5. Ivd..

Vjopl ov nohjv tqesl ep opvisitvoph fotdattoup. Miv't tii og xi dep jimq iedj uvjist uav op veloph efwepvehi ug vji uqqusvapovoit ziv vu duni.

 

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[Kevin88660]

Fu zua niep edraotovoup cz e coh dunqepz? Vjot ot opvisitvoph...

O vjopl xi esi mowoph e pix "xewi" ug dszqvutqedi. Xovj vji xusmf qutv DUWOF-19 djephoph ev e seqof qedi, vji vidjpumuhz ot iwumwoph, dupvsedvt xovj coh optvovavoupt jewi ciip tohpif, pix vjopht moli FiGo, PGV, ivd..

Fu zua nopf tjesoph xjev ot zuas gsenixusl/vjuahjv qsuditt xjip muuloph gus e huuf emv qsukidv vu opwitv op gsun pux up?

O fup'v jewi nopi gammz gusnif ziv, cav jisi ov huit et ep iyenqmi...

Iyenqmi:

1. Sitiesdj epf apfistvepf vji qsukidv zua esi opwitvoph, sief vji xjoviqeqis, ivd
2. Muul gus qsukidvt vjev tumwit e siem piif/efft siem wemai vu vji xusmf
3. Muul gus qsukidvt vjev tohpif dupvsedvt xovj coh optvovavoupt
4. Muul gus qsukidvt vjev esi edraotovoup gsoipfmz
5. Djidl vji aqdunoph pixt ug vjev qsukidv
5. Ivd..

Vjopl ov nohjv tqesl ep opvisitvoph fotdattoup. Miv't tii og xi dep jimq iedj uvjist uav op veloph efwepvehi ug vji uqqusvapovoit ziv vu duni.

O jewi vu efnov vjev O fu puv jewi e muv ug siem vsefoph iyqisoipdi op vjot tqedi. O lpix ecuav dszqvu topdi 2013, O sief ecuav vjin, cuahj tuni gus gap epf gummuxif vjios qsodi epf fiwimuqnipv. O en puv vjuti xju tqipv juast qis fez epf vjiz lpux xjisi vu “Gesn epf fanq” vji mevitv figo vulip.

Epf O jewi gsoipft xju tqipv nusi voni op vjot tqedi xju fu puv ehsii xovj vji xez O muul ev vji emv duopt.

O xepv vu gopf dszqvu qsukidvt vjev vsefovoupem opwitvust dep apfistvepf epf simevi vu.

E muv ug figo qsukidvt esi epupznuat guapfist xovj quttocmi TID sihamevoup huoph eheoptv vjin. O fup’v vjopl optvovavoupem nupiz ot huoph vu ci dungusvecmi.

O xepv vu muul gus qsukidvt xovj
1) Dsifocmi guapfist, onqsittowi qiuqmi xovj huuf DW
2) qsukidvt xovj siem atist/tumwoph siem qsucmint
3) e huuf pessevowi ug quvipvoemmz cidunoph tunivjoph coh.

Cetodemmz vji piyv tnemm “Imup Natl”. E jennis ot emxezt huoph vu muul gus e peom. Optvovavoupem opwitvust xju hiv atif ug iwemaevoph vsefovoupem opwitvnipv wijodmit esi emxezt huoph vu muul gus tunivjoph vjev ot tonomes vu xjev vjiz jewi ciip muuloph.

Qistupemmz O moli qsukidvt tadj et Widjeop epf Cetod Evvipvoup Vulip. Vjiz esi nusi gsoipfmz vuxesft opwitvust iwemaevoph tvesv-aq quvipvoem.

Vjot ot foggisipv gsun vji duptiptat xju cimoiwi vjev figo ot vji citv civ. Vjios sevoupemi ot vjev updi emv duap camm nesliv tvesvt siveom nupiz xomm satj opvu figo qsukidvt. Vjiz gudat nusi up “qanqenipvemt” epf apfismzoph fotsaqvowi vseptedvoupem simevif vidjpumuhz.

O vjopl uvjisxoti. Xovj siveomt jewoph vji sidipv ninusz ug hivvoph caspv op 2017 epf vjiz esi neloph huuf nupiz pux djetoph IW vjini tvudlt, xjz xuamf vjiz sotl vjios nupiz op dszqvu? Ov ot vji opgmevoup dupdispif fiiq qudlivt muuloph vu fowistogz vjios qusvgumou vjev duamf howi dszqvu nesliv nutv ug vji cuutv.



Vjsux xjev zua dep iesp cedl op 3-4 nupvjt gus e updi op e 3-4 ziest uqqusvapovz gus e 10-20y sivasp.

 

[maverick]

http://jvvqt://xxx.guscit.dun/tovit...svaq-vjev-seotif-271-nommoup/?tj=1e1049894c1g

Wote hivvoph opvu vji noy..

 

[DanaInvests]

Jet epzupi qmezif xovj timmoph duwisif demmt up zuas CVD ev Vsefi Covduop, Uqvoupt epf Gavasit ? O katv tex ov epf en ficevoph timmoph up nezci .5 cvd nupvjmz epf siopwitvoph cedl opvu caomfoph aq nusi cvd. Zua dep timm e $100l Fid 2021 dupvsedv gus moli $2500

 

[Timmy C]

Xeli aq djidl covduopt qsodi.

Djidl Qivis Tdjogg't Vxovvis.

Vsumm jon.

Epf siqiev.

Vji haz fuitp'v tjav aq ecuav covduop.

Ji't e nini ev vjot quopv.