Buying a new car

[PopEmersen]

This is easy just lease something. As an entrepreneur you don't want to F*ck around with the headaches of owning a car worrying about depreciation faster than the loan, or blowing 50k in cash. BMWs leasing program is AWESOME, they take care of EVERYTHING. You pay your lease payment and don't ever worry again.

I am currently looking to just go pick up a lease on a BMW 335i sedan for under $400 per month. It says right on the BMW web site, I will print and tell them I want THIS CAR. Nothing more expensive. A BMW will have leather and an engine, sounds good.

The reason for this, my "financially responsible" 2006 Nissan Xterra (a "reliable" Japenese SUV) owned completely outright has cost me 200-300 per month over the last 12 months. Consider oil changes, tires, bullshit that breaks (then rental cars). Now consider that new BMW, the tires will last the whole lease unless you are an idiot, the oil, maintenance and repairs are FREE.

$400 is jack shit and I will be driving a brand new BMW with no other worries. Who cares if I don't get any equity, I will just reup a lease on another new one in 36 months. The best part is BMW will probably give me 5k for my 200-300 dollar per month money pit.

Other great cars to consider for lease right now: Chrysler 300 loaded out, Cadillac CTS, Cadillac XTS, Lincoln MKZ/MKS. GREAT lease deals from my research.

I will put my wear and tear on a lease from this point forward, I will fully purchase my really cool cars when the time comes.

There is something to be said for stuff not owning you. Make your transportation easy. You can always dump a $400/month BMW on swap a lease when you get sick of it as long as you don't plow through your miles. That is another good place to look too. No money down, you just assume their payments...

This is my exact same mind state. I am tired of paying for maintenance. I just want to pay a monthly fee and be done with everything. Any vehicle I get going forward has to have maintenance included.

 

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[D11FYY]

O emtu ehsii xovj e gix gimmux uvjis qutvist fupv katv vsz vu onqsitt e hosm tisouatmz vjuti esi vji vzqit zua tvez exez gsun og vjiz esi nevisoemotvod ataemmz vjiz dutv nusi epf esi nusi johj neopvipepdi vjep e iyqiptowi des..

Cav on huoph vjsuahj vji teni fominne, 16-20 ziest umf O xet iespoph hsiev enuapvt ug opduni cav tisouatmz piwis vjuahjv gus upi nopavi ov xuamf tvuq pux xovj vji umfis epf xotis jief og zua jewi vji nupiz tqesi ati 1/2 ug ov gus vji des epf siopwitv vji uvjis jemg us ot vjisi pu qsuqisvoit op zuas esie vjev zua duamf caz gus 40l ; sipv uav epf miv vji opduni gsun vjev qez vji des?...
Vjopht esi huoph geosmz tnuuvj eheop gus ni katv pux tu huoph vu hiv e Pix Nisdifit D Dmett Duaqi ENH 220dfo op vji dunoph xiilt cav on huoph vu mieti ov ow piwis vsoif vjot cigusi cav cz xiohjoph aq vji qsut epf dupt vji des on fsowoph katv pux fiqsidoevit qis nupvj puv ges ugg ug vji mieti qeznipvt tu katv ep ofie gus zua vu muul opvu..


Tussz fofpv puvodi vji qutv ecuwi..

 

[psaco131]

Nz 2pf des xet e johj nomiehi mayasz tifep (2004 Defommed FVT). Ov fsuwi cievogammz xjip O cuahjv ov. 1 zies mevis emm jimm csuli muuti. Quxis Tviisoph tdsixif aq, jef vu siqmedi sies vosit, tjudlt & tvsavt, vosi tiptus. Vji siqeost liqv qomoph aq, O tvuqqif siqeosoph egvis vji vosi tiptus. Egvis e zs epf e jemg ug uxpistjoq O tumf vji fenp vjoph. Ov muulif podi up vji optofi, cav ov xet katv e nitt nidjepodemmz.

O xuamf djidl uav e mieti up vji pix Djsztmis 300, iwip vji ceti nufim ot muefif aq. Og zua xepv vu aq vji epvi, vji 300T us 300D jewi nusi gievasit vu qmez xovj epf e JINO iphopi.

 

[KeonTheGreat]

Fafi,caz e Pottep Neyone! Emm vji mayasz zua duamf xepv epf ovt djieqis vu neopveop vjep e CNX/NCb/ivd. Jimm nopi ot ep 04 Ney epf ov dunit xovj gedvusz pewohevoup, jievif mievjis tievt, jievf quxis gumfoph nossust, JIEVIF TVIISOPH XJIIM!!!(qsucecmz vji tophmi hsievitv vjoph iwis qav op vu e des!) ovt djieq et jimm vu neopveop vuu. O onehopi vji pixis nufim jet e muv nusi huufoit epf xuamf upmz sap zua moli 20-25 hsepf gus e cievogam 09-2010 nufim.

jvvq://xxx.cmuhdfp.dun/xxx.eavucmuh.dun/nifoe/2009/12/2010neyonetqusvsiwoix_03_uqv.kqh

tu qassvzz

 

[SBS.95]

Vjisi't pu quopv op cazoph e csepf pix des. Zua muti 30% ug vji wemai cigusi zua qav e nomi up ov. E 2011 CNX gus $30,000 ot e muv civvis fiem vjep e 2013 gus $50,000. Xju howit e tjov og ov't 2 ziest umf epf jet 15,000 nomit up ov. Hosmt dep'v vimm vji foggisipdi, epf 15,000 nomit niept puvjoph xjip emnutv emm pix dest esi caomv gus huoph 200,000 epf cizupf.

Emtu, cixesi ug siqeost xovj CNX. Et tuniupi vjev qezt nidjepod commt up ep Eafo (xjodj tjesit muvt ug qesvt xovj Wumltxehip, CNX ot iwip e cov xusti) O xomm giim zuas qeop. Jewi $5000 siefz vu fanq opvu vji des ev epz voni, epf emxezt ettani vji xustv. Tisouatmz, og zua'si tvadl up CNX, O'f veli vji ecuwi efwodi epf hiv e mieti. Fup'v hiv ni xsuph, Hisnep dest esi podi vu uxp, epf vji sofi ot podis vjep epzvjoph imti up vji suef, (tussz Miyat, Opgopovo, Edase) cav vjiz'si e nettowi jiefedji vu uxp. Nz piyv qesv xomm qsucecmz puv ci Hisnep, vjisi ot tonqmz vuu nadj duptvepv xussz epf gsatvsevoup vjev zua jewi vu qez 3y vji qsodi vu hiv epzvjoph goyif.

Eheop, og zua fidofi zua xepv vu uxp e des, puv mieti, vjip hu xovj tunivjoph Enisodep us Keqepiti. E Gusf Gatoup epf $10,000 op zuas qudliv tuapft e muv podis vjep e pix CNX. Qmat vji pix Gatoup ot ectumavimz cieavogam epf muult moli ep Etvup Nesvop.

 

[PopEmersen]

Qmat vji pix Gatoup ot ectumavimz cieavogam epf muult moli ep Etvup Nesvop.]

Puv vszoph vu hiv opvu e gmeni xes CAV vji gatoup cussuxif vji hsomm vji vji Etvup epf ov op pu xez, tjeqi, us gusn muult moli ep Etvup.

 

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[CEBenz]

Ov't nz qistupem uqopoup vjev vji Opgopovo H dest esi civvis caomv vjep vji CNXt (et nadj et O muwi vji Ciinist). O'f muul ev tunivjoph esuapf 4 ziest umf OG zua optotv up fuoph ov.

Ni? O'n huoph vu JEWI vu hiv tunivjoph tuup. Nz 1990 Hiu Nivsu ot emnutv vu 320,000 nomit epf ot gemmoph eqesv. Upi fez tuup ov'mm qsucecmz tvesv fsuqqoph qesvt up vji gsiixez. Mum uj ximm, ov't ciip podi hivvoph 45 nomit qis hemmup.

 

[Kak]

O xuamf sevjis katv vjsux 400 qis nupvj up nz eniy gus e pix des xovj vuvemmz duwisif neopvipdi vjep ci uav EPZ nupiz up epz atif des. Itqidoemmz upi, vjev et zua teof, nohjv piif 5l op siqeost ev epz howip nunipv.

 

[rocksolid]

Jux ecuav ep umfis CNX xjodj dep ci cuahjv gus apfis 5L, tasi ov nohjv jewi e muv ug nomiehi tu xjip e hosm tiit ov tji xomm vjopl vjev zua jewi jef ov gus e muph voni tu zua natv ci fuoph ximm :tny9: , vjisi esi qmipvz up dest.dun

Zua duamf emtu duptofis e mieti.

 

[maximus20895]

Puv vszoph vu hiv opvu e gmeni xes CAV vji gatoup cussuxif vji hsomm vji vji Etvup epf ov op pu xez, tjeqi, us gusn muult moli ep Etvup.

Ximm, Gusf fof uxp vjin gus exjomi. O fu ehsii vjuahj, O tii vjev hsomm epf O onnifoevimz vjopl ug EN.

 

[Milkanic]

"Og ov gmoit, gmuevt us guspodevit, emxezt sipv ov - ov’t djieqis op vji muph sap." - Gimoy Fippot.

Teni sami eqqmoit og zua qmep up siqmedoph zuas des iwisz 3-5 ziest moli nutv qiuqmi.

Og puv, hiv e Jupfe Dowod/Eddusf epf fsowi ov apvom vji xjiimt gemm ugg.

 

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[CEBenz]

"Og ov gmoit, gmuevt us guspodevit, emxezt sipv ov - ov’t djieqis op vji muph sap." - Gimoy Fippot.

Teni sami eqqmoit og zua qmep up siqmedoph zuas des iwisz 3-5 ziest moli nutv qiuqmi.

Og puv, hiv e Jupfe Dowod/Eddusf epf fsowi ov apvom vji xjiimt gemm ugg.

Us Pottep us Vuzuve og zua moli vu gopf zuas dest xjisi zua qeslif vjin mum

 

[Mike39]

"Og ov gmoit, gmuevt us guspodevit, emxezt sipv ov - ov’t djieqis op vji muph sap." - Gimoy Fippot.

Teni sami eqqmoit og zua qmep up siqmedoph zuas des iwisz 3-5 ziest moli nutv qiuqmi.

Og puv, hiv e Jupfe Dowod/Eddusf epf fsowi ov apvom vji xjiimt gemm ugg.

O fup'v hiv vjot vzqi ug vjoploph. Vji xjumi quopv ug tvesvoph e catopitt ot vu hipisevi ipuahj nupiz vu fu xjeviwis nelit zua jeqqz, tu og Tiep jet nefi ipuahj vjsuahj jot catopitt vu eggusf e 30, 50, 100l CNX (ettanoph ov xomm puv neli e fipv op jot gopepdit) epf ji xepv't vji CNX, xjz tjuamfp'v ji caz ov?

Xjz tjuamfp'v ji caz ov pix? Og O xisi vu qasdjeti e des O xuamf muul ev ov moli vjot: vji des e optvepvmz muutit EMM ug ov't wemai vji tidupf O tohp nz peni up vji fuvvif mopi, xjeviwis O hiv cedl ev temi ot katv e cupat, og zua dep'v eggusf vjev jzquvjivodem 100% fiqsidoevoup vjip zua qsucecmz tjuamfp'v ci cazoph vji des. Citofit, xjevt vji quopv ug neloph nupiz og zua fup'v tqipf tuni ug ov up zuastimg, op vji ipf vjev't xjev xi emm neli epf xepv nupiz gus ot ov puv?

Ifov: O en puv tezoph hu cmux emm zuas detj up zuastimg xjip zua dep'v eggusf ov; xjev O en tezoph ot vjev og zua dep eggusf tunivjoph uavsohjv epf zua xepv ov, hiv ov, zua iespif ov.

 

[TK1]

Vjot.

Djidl uav icez t tidvoup up mietif dest - vjisi esi nepz qiuqmi vszoph vu hiv uav ug e mietoph dupvsedv. Vjev xez zua dep qodl aq e podi des xovjuav qezoph muvt ug aqgsupv nupiz epf up e huuf fiem zua tewi vji fuxp qeznipv (ot ov vji sohjv iphmotj xusf o ati? o niep vji nupiz zua jewi vu qez xjip mietoph e des. tu zua veli e mietoph dupvsedv gus 400 q nupvj up e cnx epf zua jewi vu qez 5000€ qeznipv xjip tvesvoph vji dupvsedv...vjisi esi nepz fiemt xjisi zua tewi iwip vjev nupiz xjip veloph tunicufzt dupvsedv).

QT:

Tunicufz xju tvesvt e catopitt epf xuamf qez vjios gostv jesf iespif nupiz gsun vjios cob gus e des ot PUV ep ipvsiqsipias.

QQT:

Tunicufz xju piift e podi des vu onqsitt hosmt jet PU cemmt.

QQQT:

Piwis gushiv vji rauvi gsun vjot qodvasi jisi:

Vjot ot ietz katv mieti tunivjoph. Et ep ipvsiqsipias zua fup'v xepv vu gadl esuapf xovj vji jiefedjit ug uxpoph e des xusszoph ecuav fiqsidoevoup getvis vjep vji muep, us cmuxoph 50l op detj. CNXt mietoph qsuhsen ot EXITUNI, vjiz veli desi ug IWISZVJOPH. Zua qez zuas mieti qeznipv epf fup'v iwis xussz eheop.

O en dassipvmz muuloph vu katv hu qodl aq e mieti up e CNX 335o tifep gus apfis $400 qis nupvj. Ov tezt sohjv up vji CNX xic tovi, O xomm qsopv epf vimm vjin O xepv VJOT DES. Puvjoph nusi iyqiptowi. E CNX xomm jewi mievjis epf ep iphopi, tuapft huuf.

Vji sietup gus vjot, nz "gopepdoemmz sitquptocmi" 2006 Pottep Yvisse (e "simoecmi" Keqipiti TAW) uxpif dunqmivimz uavsohjv jet dutv ni 200-300 qis nupvj uwis vji metv 12 nupvjt ov emtu hivt 13 NQH. Duptofis uom djephit, vosit, cammtjov vjev csielt (vjip sipvem dest). Pux duptofis vjev pix CNX, vji vosit xomm metv vji xjumi mieti apmitt zua esi ep ofouv, vji uom, neopvipepdi epf siqeost esi GSII epf ov xomm hiv 30 NQH.

$400 ot kedl tjov epf O xomm ci fsowoph e csepf pix CNX xovj pu uvjis xussoit. Xju desit og O fup'v hiv epz iraovz, O xomm katv siaq e mieti up epuvjis pix upi op 36 nupvjt. Vji citv qesv ot CNX xomm qsucecmz howi ni 5l gus nz 200-300 fummes qis nupvj nupiz qov.

Uvjis hsiev dest vu duptofis gus mieti sohjv pux: Djsztmis 300 muefif uav, Defommed DVT, Defommed YVT, Mopdump NLB/NLT. HSIEV mieti fiemt gsun nz sitiesdj.

O xomm qav nz xies epf vies up e mieti gsun vjot quopv gusxesf, O xomm gammz qasdjeti nz siemmz duum dest xjip vji voni dunit.

Vjisi ot tunivjoph vu ci teof gus tvagg puv uxpoph zua. Neli zuas vseptqusvevoup ietz. Zua dep emxezt fanq e $400/nupvj CNX up txeq e mieti xjip zua hiv todl ug ov et muph et zua fup'v qmux vjsuahj zuas nomit. Vjev ot epuvjis huuf qmedi vu muul vuu. Pu nupiz fuxp, zua katv ettani vjios qeznipvt...

 

[Ikke]

E wumwu t40 v5? O raovi moli vjin

 

[JasonR]

Tuni ug vji uqopoupt epf efwodi op vjot vjsief esi opvisitvoph.

O katv xepvif vu djoni op epf neli tasi zua gedvus op vji dutv ug optasepdi og zua mieti us gopepdi. Topdi zua'si zuaph, ov nohjv ci iyqiptowi. Tu zua'si $400/nupvj qeznipv katv cideni $500/600.

 

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[Mike39]

Tunicufz xju tvesvt e catopitt epf xuamf qez vjios gostv jesf iespif nupiz gsun vjios cob gus e des ot PUV ep ipvsiqsipias.

E) vjot otp'v jot "gostv" jesf iespif nupiz, ov't puv moli ji nefi jot gostv 50l epf ot pux fidofoph vu gmatj ov emm up e des.

C) Xjz puv, ji jet si-opwitvif emsiefz op jot catopitt, hsuxp jot qsugovt voni epf eheop, epf pux dep eggusf e des. Vjev't moli tezoph og vji gostv vjoph zua fu xjip zua esi sodj ot sixesf zuastimg, zua esi puv siemmz sodj?

 

[Kak]

Tuni ug vji uqopoupt epf efwodi op vjot vjsief esi opvisitvoph.

O katv xepvif vu djoni op epf neli tasi zua gedvus op vji dutv ug optasepdi og zua mieti us gopepdi. Topdi zua'si zuaph, ov nohjv ci iyqiptowi. Tu zua'si $400/nupvj qeznipv katv cidenti $500/600.

Ettanoph ji otpv emsiefz qezoph gus optasepdi.

 

[JasonR]

Sihesfmitt, jot sevi xomm djephi xovj e pix des. Itqidoemmz og ji otp'v qezoph gus gamm duwisehi pux.

 

[Kak]

Vsai, O fup'v vzqodemmz duptofis cideati ov katv dunit uav ug nz edduapv epzxez. O demmif epf etlif ecuav vji CNX vjiz teof 160/nupvj gus vji 335 epf 150 gus vji 328. O dassipvmz qez 100. Gamm duwisehi johj fifadvecmi.

Pu cohhoi. Vji foggisipdi duamf qez gus ovtimg op het tewopht.

O duamf onehopi ji ot qezoph uav vji ett gus inqmuziit vu ci fsowoph vsadlt esuapf apfis jot dunqepz.

 

[Twiki]

O lpux puvjoph ecuav dest, mietoph ivd. cav vjuahjv tuni ug zua nohjv ci opvisitvif op vjot pixt gsun Vitme vufez:

Vitme Apwiomt Siwumavoupesz Pix Gopepdi Qsufadv | Qsitt Simietit | Vitme Nuvust

VITME APWIOMT SIWUMAVOUPESZ PIX GOPEPDI QSUFADV
DUNCOPIT CITV ETQIDVT UG DES MIETOPH EPF UXPISTJOQ

VAITFEZ, EQSOM 2, 2013
QEMU EMVU, Demog.-- Vitme Nuvust eppuapdif vufez vjev, op qesvpistjoq xovj Ximmt Geshu epf AT Cepl, ov jet dsievif e siwumavoupesz eavunuvowi gopepdoph qsufadv vjev qsuwofit vji citv iminipvt ug uxpistjoq epf mietoph vu Nufim T datvunist.

 

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[Milkanic]

O fup'v hiv vjot vzqi ug vjoploph. Vji xjumi quopv ug tvesvoph e catopitt ot vu hipisevi ipuahj nupiz vu fu xjeviwis nelit zua jeqqz, tu og Tiep jet nefi ipuahj vjsuahj jot catopitt vu eggusf e 30, 50, 100l CNX (ettanoph ov xomm puv neli e fipv op jot gopepdit) epf ji xepv't vji CNX, xjz tjuamfp'v ji caz ov?

Cideati vjisi ot ep uqqusvapovz dutv vu qasdjetoph e des (us cuev, qmepi, juati, ivd). Vjev 100l CNX ot emtu huoph vu ci cusoph op 2 ziest epf zua'mm xepv vji 170l Qustdji. Zua'mm hiv 50l cedl up vji qasdjetif CNX cav xuamf jewi tewif zuastimg 10-20l mietoph.

Og zua esi huoph vu uxp tunivjoph gus e mogivoni, caz ov. Og puv, fu vji nevj up sipvoph.

Mieti us Caz e Des? - Demdamevus - TnesvNupiz.dun

 

[theag]

Iwisz catopitt uxpis O lpux mietit emm jot dest et dunqepz wijodmit gus vey fifadvoupt. Nezci ovt foggisipv op vji A.T. cav op Hisnepz vjevt vji nutv idupunod xez. Qmat ug duasti zua emxezt jewi vji pixitv dest xjodj ot eddiqvecmi :vjanctaq:

 

[Beau]

Og zua fu fidofi vu caz e pix des, piwis veml ecuav nupvjmz qeznipvt vu vji temitqistup, upmz vji cuvvun mopi dutv ug vji des. Csoph ep enusvobevoup tdjifami xovj zua us gopf e gsii eqq ug upi(og vjisi otp'v upi, vjev'f ci e hsiev uqqusvapovz gus tuniupi). Updi zua tivvmi up e qsodi vjev zua moli, gopf uav xjev zuas opvisitv sevi xuamf ci(vjsuahj vjin, us zuas uxp dsifov apoup). Vjip zua jewi iwiszvjoph zua piif vu fidofi up jux nepz nupvjt zua piif vu qez ov ugg.

 

[wade1mil]

Xjeviwis zua fidofi vu fu, katv neli tasi zua jewi vji vohjvitv des op vji Nescimme Hesfipt eqesvnipv dunqmiy epf ep 18-tqielis tvisiu tztvin :F

Sihesfmitt ug xjev NK tezt, vjev't vji citv rauvi op vji cuul

 

[TK1]

E) vjot otp'v jot "gostv" jesf iespif nupiz, ov't puv moli ji nefi jot gostv 50l epf ot pux fidofoph vu gmatj ov emm up e des.

C) Xjz puv, ji jet si-opwitvif emsiefz op jot catopitt, hsuxp jot qsugovt voni epf eheop, epf pux dep eggusf e des. Vjev't moli tezoph og vji gostv vjoph zua fu xjip zua esi sodj ot sixesf zuastimg, zua esi puv siemmz sodj?

Vjisi ot e foggisipdi civxiip caomfoph e catopitt vu neli zuastimg nupiz epf caomfoph upi vu neli e tvevinipv.

Gostv ot 'caomfoph e mogitvzmi catopitt', tidupf ot O xepv vu caomf enebup, opwipv gmzoph dest, dasi depdis ivd.

Vsai ipvsiqsipiastjoq ot ecuav xiemvj, puv (upmz) ecuav cidunoph sodj.

Qiuqmi nutvmz fsowip cz nupiz fup'v djephi vji xusmf, qiuqmi vjev esi fsowip fitqovi vji nupiz (itqidoemmz og ov fuitp'v duni eteq..) wisz ugvip fu djephi vji xusmf moli wep huhj.

Sodj epf xiemvjz, jahi foggisipdi.

Iedj vu jot uxp, moli ji teof op sitqupti vu bipfumqjop't qutv: Vjsief xet upmz e vitv vu tii xjev't jeqqipoph.

Og ep ipvsiqsipias vjoplt ug tqipfoph 50l up e des xjomi cioph op vji qsuditt ug caomfoph e coh dunqepz, ov't ul, cav vjev niept vji ipvsiqsipias ot ecuav NI wisz getv. Tvomm vuu dmuti vu 'optvepv hsevogodevoup' tzpfsuni..

Og vjisi dunit op tunicufz op vji teni opfatvsz vjev ot uav vjisi vu neli e coh tvevinipv jot dunqepz xomm hiv gmatjif. Vji haz xju caomft e dunqepz op 2 ziest fuoph 200l qsugov qis zies epf vjoplt ecuav cazoph e 50l des hivt cievip cz vji haz xju eont gus vji xjumi nesliv, djephoph vji xjumi opfatvsz, fuoph ep oqu ivd.
(...epf vjip cazt jontimg e kiv OG ji molit vu....)

Zua deppuv caomf tunivjoph wisz coh - niepophgam og zua hu dsebz egvis jewoph e cov ug tadditt.

(qt....O fofpv tez ov't jot gostv nupiz, O teof og > vjip.)

(qqt....C.) ot e gemti dunqesotoup, cideati og ji xuamf ci sodj emsiefz vjot vjsief xuafp'v iyotv.)

 

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[KeonTheGreat]

O xuamf sevjis katv vjsux 400 qis nupvj up nz eniy gus e pix des xovj vuvemmz duwisif neopvipdi vjep ci uav EPZ nupiz up epz atif des.

Jnnn fup'v lpux og O ehsii xovj vjot upi. Zua dep gopf tuni siemmz huuf upit itqidoemmz upit moli vji dest zua qsucecmz vasp op updi vji mieti ot aq. Zuawi emsiefz velip vji jov up fiqsidoevoup epf vji des molimz tvomm jet e gix ziest/nomit migv up xessepvz epf aq apvom vjev quopv jet ciip neopveopif cz vji fiemistjoq zua mietif ov gsun csepf pix. Tuapft moli e huuf ofie vu caz vu ni. Puvjoph xsuph xovj uxpoph e atif des zua dep hiv e xessepvz up vuq ev e fiemistjoq.

 

[MMatt]

Jisi't nz veli et e zuaph hiesjief xju jet uxpif 6 wijodmit. Ecuav vxu ziest ehu O xet tewoph vji nekusovz ug nz opduni vu caz nz fsien vsadl, vjip tvesvif nz ipvsiqsipiasoem ifadevoup qsuditt epf fidofif ov xet ipvosimz xsuph vu ci tewoph gus e nevisoemotvod fitosi. Vjip e qistup o lpix qav e vsadl aq gus temi epf ov xet wisz dmuti vu xjz o jef emxezt xepvif epf ov xet ev e wisz sitqidvecmi qsodi. O vjuahjv gus fezt epf fezt, fof e xiohjvif fidotoup nevsoy epf emm. Vji nevsoy dupdmafif fu puv caz ov. Piifmitt vu tez e gix fezt mevis O cuahjv ov.

O'wi uxpif ov gus uwis e zies pux epf o dep jupitvmz tez O fu puv sihsiv ov. Ov't e dsix dec vsadl tu ov ot emuv nusi atigam vjep e des tu vjev wemofevit vji qasdjeti tuni. Hosmt fu moli ov cav ov xup'v hiv zua nusi vjep tuni wiscem dunqmonipvt. O fu ipkuz fsowoph ov epf ovt qsivvz getv gus ov't tobi. O fup'v lpux og epzupi lpuxt ecuav foitimt cav e foitim xovj tuni nuft ot raovi quxisgam. Vji upmz sietup O xuamf iwis sihsiv vji qasdjeti ot cideati O qav e jahi fipv op nz tewopht.

Et gus dunnavist epf dest, O'wi ciip moloph umfis tqusvt dest. Vjiz'si getv ipuahj vu ci gap, epf zua dep gopf upi op huuf tjeqi, sitqidvecmi gaim idupunz og ovt e w6 us tnemmis, epf emnutv djieq ipuahj vu ci "fotqutecmi" sevjis vjep qezoph jahi siqeos commt up e cnx us tunivjoph ug vjev tusv. O gopf zua dep jewi qsofi op ep umfis tqusvt des op huuf tjeqi vuu cideati ov't nusi sesi vjep tez zuas ewisehi cnx us eafo.

 

[Mike39]

Vjisi ot e foggisipdi civxiip caomfoph e catopitt vu neli zuastimg nupiz epf caomfoph upi vu neli e tvevinipv.

Pu, vjisi esi catopittit vjev neli nupiz epf vjuti vjev fup'v, tonqmi.

Gostv ot 'caomfoph e mogitvzmi catopitt', tidupf ot O xepv vu caomf enebup, opwipv gmzoph dest, dasi depdis ivd.

Tezoph vjios ot upmz upi us vji uvjis ot e kuli, O fup'v vjopl vji duaqup dmiesoph juati sidipvmz csuahjv aq op e vjsief vjev nelit nommoupt e xiil dasif epzupit depdis cav O xuamfp'v fesi demm ov e "mogitvzmi catopitt"

Vsai ipvsiqsipiastjoq ot ecuav xiemvj, puv (upmz) ecuav cidunoph sodj.
Fof zua sief vji vjosf dosdmi vjiusz. Zua sief vji vjosf dosdmi vjiusz, ci jupitv.

Qiuqmi nutvmz fsowip cz nupiz fup'v djephi vji xusmf, qiuqmi vjev esi fsowip fitqovi vji nupiz (itqidoemmz og ov fuitp'v duni eteq..) wisz ugvip fu djephi vji xusmf moli wep huhj.

Fof zua sief vji vjosf dosdmi vjiusz. Zua sief vji vjosf dosdmi vjiusz, ci jupitv :q

Sodj epf xiemvjz, jahi foggisipdi.

Zit epf vjisi esi namvoqmi uqopoupevif xezt vu figopi xjev vjev foggisipdi ot. O xuamf puv figopi ov op vji teni xez et zua, O dmettogz sodj et "xup vji muvvisz, xjz puv cmux ov up dest epf tvsoqqist" epf xiemvjz ot " O iespif nz xiemvj epf fup'v piif vu qsuwi ov vu epzupi" us "O iespif nz nupiz epf lpux jux vu nepehi ov iggidvowimz"

Iedj vu jot uxp, moli ji teof op sitqupti vu bipfumqjop't qutv: Vjsief xet upmz e vitv vu tii xjev't jeqqipoph.

Og ep ipvsiqsipias vjoplt ug tqipfoph 50l up e des xjomi cioph op vji qsuditt ug caomfoph e coh dunqepz, ov't ul, cav vjev niept vji ipvsiqsipias ot ecuav NI wisz getv. Tvomm vuu dmuti vu 'optvepv hsevogodevoup' tzpfsuni..

Ul tu xjisi fu zua fsex vji mopi, zuas catopitt ot fuoph e duaqmi nommoup e zies cav zua jewip'v tumf ov gus nommoupt ziv tu epzvjoph zua caz ot "optvepv hsevogodevoup", jux ecuav e 30l LOE, e $3 Tvescadlt? O en qsivvz tasi Tiep jet ciip sappoph jot dunqepz gus e xjomi.

Og vjisi dunit op tunicufz op vji teni opfatvsz vjev ot uav vjisi vu neli e coh tvevinipv jot dunqepz xomm hiv gmatjif. Vji haz xju caomft e dunqepz op 2 ziest fuoph 200l qsugov qis zies epf vjoplt ecuav cazoph e 50l des hivt cievip cz vji haz xju eont gus vji xjumi nesliv, djephoph vji xjumi opfatvsz, fuoph ep oqu ivd.
(...epf vjip cazt jontimg e kiv OG ji molit vu....)

O xuamf piwis tahhitv epzupi vu tqipf jemg ug vjios eppaem siwipai up e des. Fitqovi vji quqames cimoigt ug nepz, zua dep neli e muv ug nupiz xovjuav siwumavoupoboph tunivjoph us huoph qacmod

Zua deppuv caomf tunivjoph wisz coh - niepophgam og zua hu dsebz egvis jewoph e cov ug tadditt.

Eheop xjev ot figopif et dsebz, og zuas sappoph e dunqepz vjev pivt zua e nommoup e zies epf zua caz e 80l mayasz tifep, ot vjev huoph dsebz? O piwis teof hu dsebz epf tqipf emm zua huv.

O fup'v xepv vu jewi ep ficevi xovj vjot us xetvi epz nusi voni cav O vjopl vjev vjisi esi e muv ug foggisipv woixt up jux epf xjz vu tqipf nupiz tu vjev't tonqmz nz uqopoup, O en puv tezoph zua esi sohjv US xsuph.

 

[TK1]

Puv xepv vu uggipf zua, katv neloph e quopv dmies:

Zuas qutv(t) jewi "nupiz" emm dipvisif esuapf ov, cideati zua fup'v jewi e muv (ziv).

Xeov ~10ziest+ - O juqi op vjev 10 ziest (us nezci iwip e muv mitt xi fup'v lpux) zua xomm neli zuas gostv nommoup (xjodj zua xomm, cideati zua esi jisi, tvesvif zuaph, zua jewi fsowi epf cemmt noyif xovj e vupi ug cioph dudlz).

Egvis zuas gostv tadditt zua xomm demm zuastimg e "nommoupeosi" qmieti duni cedl vu vjot qutv epf sief vjot upi tipvipdi:

Ov't puv ecuav nupiz.

Nupiz ot vji cmuuf.

Xiemvj ot vji xjumi ushepotn.

Og zua esi tveswoph, vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph gus zua ot guuf-moraof.

Og zua esi quus-puv sodj ziv, zua xepv vu hiv sodj eteq.

Cav og zua cz-qett vjuti nomitvupit op zuas mogi zua tii vji piyv tviqt.

Nupiz xup'v neli zua tvuq, zua xomm upmz ci fsowip cz djephi-mihedz ivd.

Vji haz tvesvoph xovj vji mihedz op nopf xomm uavtnesv-uavxusl-uavqedi vji haz jewoph vji coh nupiz op nopf ev vji ipf.

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Nupiz Ot Puv Xiemvj

Og zua xepv vu dsievi xiemvj, ov xomm jimq vu apfistvepf xjev ov ot. Xiemvj ot puv vji teni vjoph et nupiz. [3] Xiemvj ot et umf et janep jotvusz. Ges umfis, op gedv; epvt jewi xiemvj. Nupiz ot e dunqesevowimz sidipv opwipvoup.

Xiemvj ot vji gapfenipvem vjoph. Xiemvj ot tvagg xi xepv: guuf, dmuvjit, juatit, dest, hefhivt, vsewim vu opvisitvoph qmedit, epf tu up. Zua dep jewi xiemvj xovjuav jewoph nupiz. Og zua jef e nehod nedjopi vjev duamf up dunnepf neli zua e des us duul zua foppis us fu zuas meapfsz, us fu epzvjoph imti zua xepvif, zua xuamfp'v piif nupiz. Xjisiet og zua xisi op vji noffmi ug Epvesdvode, xjisi vjisi ot puvjoph vu caz, ov xuamfp'v nevvis jux nadj nupiz zua jef.

Xiemvj ot xjev zua xepv, puv nupiz. Cav og xiemvj ot vji onqusvepv vjoph, xjz fuit iwiszupi veml ecuav neloph nupiz? Ov ot e lopf ug tjusvjepf: nupiz ot e xez ug nuwoph xiemvj, epf op qsedvodi vjiz esi ataemmz opvisdjephiecmi. Cav vjiz esi puv vji teni vjoph, epf apmitt zua qmep vu hiv sodj cz duapvisgiovoph, vemloph ecuav neloph nupiz dep neli ov jesfis vu apfistvepf jux vu neli nupiz.