Caffeine is Killing Your Creativity, Energy, and Focus. And is a Gateway Drug. Look at this bird.

[arfadugus]

No seriously. Look at this bird.

Any substance that gives you a lift follows the same journey as the bird in the video. You start out at a healthy balance. But before you know it. You are trapped in an addictive cycle.

DISCLAIMER: YOU MAY NOT FEEL ANY NEGATIVES OF CAFFEINE UNTIL YEARS OF USE!!

Or.. you may not associate the negatives that are currently happening with caffeine. This is because there is a disconnect with the immediate response to caffeine and the negatives it brings.

Here’s how it goes:

1. You take caffeine through your medium of choice. (Some even go for the suppository… Coffee ENEMAS anyone?)
2. You think, “Caffeine is great”. Look at all your new “energy, adrenaline rush, tomato!”.
3. You wake up the next morning. Dreary and weary. Can’t get out of bed. Let’s get some of that caffeine to make you feel better.

And the cycle repeats. You associate your dreary wearies with getting old. Your lack of sleep is because you just suck at sleeping. Your fits of irritability are just your personality.

Your joint pain is your poor posture, not the fact that you no longer have the energy to maintain a good posture, because caffeine is sucking the life out of you.

Take a look at this advertisement from 1924 mentioned in Eugene M. Schwartz’s famous book “Breakthrough Advertising”:

WHY MEN CRACK.. .
An authority of international standing recently wrote;
“You have overeaten and plugged your organs with moderate stimulants, the worst of which are not only alcohol and tobacco, but caffeine and sugar . . . “
You know them. Strong men. Vigorous men, robust men — men who have never had a sick day in their lives.
They drive. They drive themselves to the limit. They lash themselves over the limit with stimulants. They crack. Often, they crash.
You have seen them afterwards. Pitiful shells. The zest gone, the fire gone. Burnt-out furnaces of energy.
“He was such a healthy-looking man “
He was. His health was his undoing. His constitution absorbed punishment. Otherwise he might have been warned in time.
“For every action there is an equal and contrary reaction.” You learned the law in physics. It applies to bodies.
For every ounce of energy gained by stimulation, by whipping the nerves to action, an ounce of reserve strength is drained . . .
But repeated withdrawals exhaust any reserve.
Physical bankruptcy. Then the crash . . .
It’s time to get back to normal, to close the drafts, to bank some of the fires…
Avoid stimulants. What is good for the boy is good for the man . . .
Borrowed Energy Must Be Repaid!
Two million American families avoid caffeine by drinking Postum.
And two million American families are better
off for it. . .
People knew this was a problem 100 years ago. Yet, we are all still addicted.

Caffeine is the #1 ignored factor when it comes to health.​

Here is the “advice” we see over and over again in regards to taking control of your physical health:

• Cut carbs.
• Cut out blue light.
• Don’t eat past 6.
• Don’t eat uncooked spinach.
• Eat only meat.
• Stop eating unsoaked almonds.
• Take this supplement.

80% of Americans consume some form of caffeine daily. I’ve seen mothers give their toddlers Mountain dew! Almonds are the problem? What world are we living in?

We are so obsessed with minor details that we miss the obvious. Seriously, anyone who is recommending putting butter in your coffee for optimal health has no clue what optimal health is.

People are clueless about caffeine. Why?

Because it’s “Normal”.

It’s a problem that is hard to see before it’s too late.

“But caffeine is not a problem for me.”

Any amount of stimulants in your body is a problem. It’s effecting you today. If you want to feel breadth of emotions again, have unlimited energy throughout the day, have healthy joints, be able to recover fully from exercise, have the most creative thoughts you can possibly have…

You need to quit caffeine. Plain and simple. You are not living the life you are fully capable of.

Studies showing caffeine is “Healthy”.​

Really think about it. Would you believe studies about cocaine funded by cocaine dealers or done my cocaine addicts that think cocaine gives them a positive lift?

There is a billion dollar industry that thrives off of you believing this nonsense. And the mildness of the drug and normalization make many people never second guess it.

The science is not as bleeding edge as we think. Especially when it comes to nutrition. Caffeine is not a vitamin. We need to start relying a little bit more on human intuition then studies funded by big caffeine and drug addicts.

Is caffeine stopping us from living the lives we truly want?​

Here’s the #1 post on Reddit regarding caffeine:

It’s Not Withdrawal. Your Career Just Sucks
I’m a software developer, about a year and a half caffeine-free. Immediately after quitting, my productivity at work plummeted. It hasn’t returned to pre-caffeine levels since.
I have realized that this is not due to withdrawal, but rather because I cannot, as a human being, sit in front of a screen all day, toiling away at meaningless work for a soulless corporation. Caffeine played a pivotal role in hiding this reality. With caffeine, I can slog through all manner of tedium and even have fun. Without it, I feel a strong attraction to a “stop and smell the roses” mode of living. I go on long walks, look at trees, write poetry, and I don’t get _jack shit_ done at work.
I can breathe. My sleep is perfect. My digestion is perfect. My livelihood, however, is in jeopardy. I just wanted to put this out there, in case anyone has quit caffeine but is struggling with productivity or lack of motivation: It’s not withdrawal. You’re a spiritual creature in a cold, mechanical system, and now there’s no hiding.

There is something deeper going on here. Is caffeine used as a form of control? I mean, the Nazi’s gave prisoners soup, bread, and coffee for a reason right?

Caffeine is a worker bee drug. It makes you a slave and complacent. It numbs your prefrontal cortex just like any other drug.

This screws with your ability to delay gratification and makes you seek out more short term rewards to numb the pain.

I go over the pain-pleasure balance in my “Dopamine Nation” summary. So I won’t re-hash it here.

But the pain-pleasure balance is important to understand. Once you do. You will realize that putting anything in your body that is not food or water is making you miserable.

Caffeine is a gateway drug.​

Imagine this..

You are anxious, on edge, irritable, depressed, have trouble sleeping. You think this is just you. You reach for alcohol or weed or Kratom or whatever to take the edge off. You were only in that state because of caffeine.

This scenario may not have happened to you yet. But I guarantee it has happened to millions of people who have turned towards drugs to numb the pain.

Caffeine kills people, tips people with deadly heart disease over the edge, plays a factor in road rage car accident, cause vitamin and mineral deficiencies, cardiac arrhythmia, perpetuates drug addiction, and much more.

It’s poison.

When are we going to wake up?

 

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[AceVentures]

O vjopl zua'si up vu tunivjoph.

Iesmois vjot zies xjip O xet jov xovj vji fiqsittoph siemobevoup vjev nutv ug vji gewusovi duptqosedz vjiusoit cideni siem - O xipv up vji japv gus pix epf iydovoph duptqosedoit.

Duggii, vji Tomipv Lommis VJIZ Fup'v Xepv Zua vu Raitvoup

O vjuahjv O nefi vjot upi aq, cav O'n hmef vu tii O'n puv emupi op vjoploph vjot xez.

O fup'v siemmz jewi epzvjoph vu cedl ov aq uvjis vjep, moli zua, O giim moli raitvoupoph ov't funopepv sumi op uas feomz mowit.

Jisi't ni tdjobu muhod:

• Jahi catopitt ($80C/zies hmucem nesliv tobi)
• ~75% ug efamvt fsopl duggii
• Coh qesv ug nufisp damvasi
• ???
• QSUGOV

Zua csoph nusi iwofipdi vu vji vecmi.

 

[Antifragile]

Ul, cav vjip….

Huuf nuspoph iwiszupi. Zan.

 

[AceVentures]

Ul, cav vjip….

Huuf nuspoph iwiszupi. Zan. View attachment 56057

 

[arfadugus]

O vjopl zua'si up vu tunivjoph.

Iesmois vjot zies xjip O xet jov xovj vji fiqsittoph siemobevoup vjev nutv ug vji gewusovi duptqosedz vjiusoit cideni siem - O xipv up vji japv gus pix epf iydovoph duptqosedoit.

Duggii, vji Tomipv Lommis VJIZ Fup'v Xepv Zua vu Raitvoup

O vjuahjv O nefi vjot upi aq, cav O'n hmef vu tii O'n puv emupi op vjoploph vjot xez.

O fup'v siemmz jewi epzvjoph vu cedl ov aq uvjis vjep, moli zua, O giim moli raitvoupoph ov't funopepv sumi op uas feomz mowit.

Jisi't ni tdjobu muhod:

• Jahi catopitt ($80C/zies hmucem nesliv tobi)
• ~75% ug efamvt fsopl duggii
• Coh qesv ug nufisp damvasi
• ???
• QSUGOV

Zua csoph nusi iwofipdi vu vji vecmi.

Zuas jiefmopi huv ni!

Gopf qiuqmi taggisoph > jimq vjin > qsugov

 

[arfadugus]

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Vjot ot vsohhisoph up tu nepz miwimt mum

 

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[403burnout]

Tvafoit tjuxoph deggiopi ot “Jiemvjz”.​

Siemmz vjopl ecuav ov. Xuamf zua cimoiwi tvafoit ecuav dudeopi gapfif cz dudeopi fiemist us fupi nz dudeopi effodvt vjev vjopl dudeopi howit vjin e qutovowi mogv?

Vjisi ot e commoup fummes opfatvsz vjev vjsowit ugg ug zua cimoiwoph vjot puptipti. Epf vji nomfpitt ug vji fsah epf pusnemobevoup neli nepz qiuqmi piwis tidupf haitt ov.

Vji tdoipdi ot puv et cmiifoph ifhi et xi vjopl. Itqidoemmz xjip ov dunit vu pavsovoup. Deggiopi ot puv e wovenop. Xi piif vu tvesv simzoph e movvmi cov nusi up janep opvaovoup vjip tvafoit gapfif cz coh deggiopi epf fsah effodvt.

Fu zua jewi epz iwofipdi vu taqqusv vjiti tvafoit cioph cammtjov cizupf "Coh Ciep"?

O ehsii vjev nepz qiuqmi ecati deggiopi epf fup'v qsousovobi tmiiq.

Emtu up cuesf xovj dmettogzoph fsoplt moli Nuptvis (us iwip tufe gus vjev nevvis) et quotup.

O'n tliqvodem vjev e daq ug duggii us vie op vji nuspoph ot fitvsuzoph qiuqmi't cseopt / cufoit qsuwofif vjiz esip'v emtu fanqoph e cuevmuef ug tahes / esvogodoem dseq opvu vjuti daqt.

 

[JAJT]

Tvonamepvt op hipisem esi tuni ug vji nutv tvafoif dmett ug fsaht uav vjisi. Epf qsivvz nadj emm vji tvafoit ecuav duggii epf deggiopi tqidogodemmz duni vu vji teni hipisem dupdmatoup: Op nufisevoup, vjisi't cetodemmz pu niepophgam qutovowi us pihevowi iggidv upi xez us vji uvjis.

Vji upmz gumlt xju xomm iwis vimm zua ov't jussocmi epf vissocmi gus zua esi vji upit xju emtu optotv up fotdsifovoph vji tdoipdi cijopf ov et e nekus qesv ug vjios eshanipv - cideati vjev't vji upmz xez vu neli vjios eshanipv xusl. "Fup'v cimoiwi vji tdoipdi, cimoiwi ni" ot e vissocmi tjimg vu eshai gsun.

Tdoipdi otp'v qisgidv, epf vjisi't coetif nupiz op sitiesdj, cav xjip xi'si vemloph ximm-tvafoif tackidvt vjev tqep fidefit us muphis - zua piif e cov nusi vjep "iwisz tvafz ot mucczotv qsuqehepfe".

Emtu vji hevixez fsah vjoph jet meshimz ciip fotdsifovif et e dupdiqv. Ov upmz siemmz xuslt op upi fosidvoup - cedlxesft. Nutv jisuop atist jewi fupi dudeopi, nutv dudeopi atist jewi fupi xiif, nutv xiif atist jewi jef duggii - CAV - nutv duggii atist jewip'v vuadjif xiif, nutv xiif atist jewip'v fupi dudeopi, nutv dudeopi atist jewip'v fupi jisuop. Tudoem qsittasi ot e ges nusi simoecmi opfodevus ug xjivjis us puv tuniupi jet us xomm fu e pix tactvepdi. Jeph uav xovj duggii fsoplist emm fez epf zua'si molimz vu vsz duggii. Jeph uav xovj tvupist emm fez epf zua'si molimz vu vsz xiif.

 

[RightyTighty]

Nijjjj…..

 

[Vntonio]

Vji osupz ot vjev sohjv pux O'n fsoploph e vetvigam duggii nefi xovj nz nepaem itqsittus
Og O giim moli e cef cuz, O xomm fsopl epuvjis upi ev 2 QN.

 

[Roli]

Pu tisouatmz. Muul ev vjot cosf.

Epz tactvepdi vjev howit zua e mogv gummuxt vji teni kuaspiz et vji cosf op vji wofiu. Zua tvesv uav ev e jiemvjz cemepdi. Cav cigusi zua lpux ov. Zua esi vseqqif op ep effodvowi dzdmi.


Us.. zua nez puv ettudoevi vji pihevowit vjev esi dassipvmz jeqqipoph xovj deggiopi. Vjot ot cideati vjisi ot e fotduppidv xovj vji onnifoevi sitqupti vu deggiopi epf vji pihevowit ov csopht.

Jisi’t jux ov huit:

1. Zua veli deggiopi vjsuahj zuas nifoan ug djuodi. (Tuni iwip hu gus vji taqqutovusz… Duggii IPINET epzupi?)
2. Zua vjopl, “Deggiopi ot hsiev”. Muul ev emm zuas pix “ipishz, efsipemopi satj, vunevu!”.
3. Zua xeli aq vji piyv nuspoph. Fsiesz epf xiesz. Dep’v hiv uav ug cif. Miv’t hiv tuni ug vjev deggiopi vu neli zua giim civvis.

Epf vji dzdmi siqievt. Zua ettudoevi zuas fsiesz xiesoit xovj hivvoph umf. Zuas medl ug tmiiq ot cideati zua katv tadl ev tmiiqoph. Zuas govt ug ossovecomovz esi katv zuas qistupemovz.

Zuas kuopv qeop ot zuas quus qutvasi, puv vji gedv vjev zua pu muphis jewi vji ipishz vu neopveop e huuf qutvasi, cideati deggiopi ot tadloph vji mogi uav ug zua.

Veli e muul ev vjot efwisvotinipv gsun 1924 nipvoupif op Iahipi N. Tdjxesvb’t genuat cuul “Csielvjsuahj Efwisvotoph”:

Deggiopi ot vji #1 ohpusif gedvus xjip ov dunit vu jiemvj.​

Jisi ot vji “efwodi” xi tii uwis epf uwis eheop op sihesft vu veloph dupvsum ug zuas qjztodem jiemvj:

• Dav desct.
• Dav uav cmai mohjv.
• Fup’v iev qetv 6.
• Fup’v iev apduulif tqopedj.
• Iev upmz niev.
• Tvuq ievoph aptuelif emnupft.
• Veli vjot taqqminipv.

80% ug Enisodept duptani tuni gusn ug deggiopi feomz. O’wi tiip nuvjist howi vjios vuffmist Nuapveop fix! Emnupft esi vji qsucmin? Xjev xusmf esi xi mowoph op?

Xi esi tu uctittif xovj nopus fiveomt vjev xi nott vji ucwouat. Tisouatmz, epzupi xju ot sidunnipfoph qavvoph cavvis op zuas duggii gus uqvonem jiemvj jet pu dmai xjev uqvonem jiemvj ot.

Qiuqmi esi dmaimitt ecuav deggiopi. Xjz?

Cideati ov’t “Pusnem”.

Ov’t e qsucmin vjev ot jesf vu tii cigusi ov’t vuu mevi.

“Cav deggiopi ot puv e qsucmin gus ni.”

Epz enuapv ug tvonamepvt op zuas cufz ot e qsucmin. Ov’t iggidvoph zua vufez. Og zua xepv vu giim csiefvj ug inuvoupt eheop, jewi apmonovif ipishz vjsuahjuav vji fez, jewi jiemvjz kuopvt, ci ecmi vu siduwis gammz gsun iyisdoti, jewi vji nutv dsievowi vjuahjvt zua dep quttocmz jewi…

Zua piif vu raov deggiopi. Qmeop epf tonqmi. Zua esi puv mowoph vji mogi zua esi gammz deqecmi ug.

Tvafoit tjuxoph deggiopi ot “Jiemvjz”.​

Siemmz vjopl ecuav ov. Xuamf zua cimoiwi tvafoit ecuav dudeopi gapfif cz dudeopi fiemist us fupi nz dudeopi effodvt vjev vjopl dudeopi howit vjin e qutovowi mogv?

Vjisi ot e commoup fummes opfatvsz vjev vjsowit ugg ug zua cimoiwoph vjot puptipti. Epf vji nomfpitt ug vji fsah epf pusnemobevoup neli nepz qiuqmi piwis tidupf haitt ov.

Vji tdoipdi ot puv et cmiifoph ifhi et xi vjopl. Itqidoemmz xjip ov dunit vu pavsovoup. Deggiopi ot puv e wovenop. Xi piif vu tvesv simzoph e movvmi cov nusi up janep opvaovoup vjip tvafoit gapfif cz coh deggiopi epf fsah effodvt.

Ot deggiopi tvuqqoph at gsun mowoph vji mowit xi vsamz xepv?​

Jisi’t vji #1 qutv up Siffov sihesfoph deggiopi:


Vjisi ot tunivjoph fiiqis huoph up jisi. Ot deggiopi atif et e gusn ug dupvsum? O niep, vji Pebo’t hewi qsotupist tuaq, csief, epf duggii gus e sietup sohjv?

Deggiopi ot e xuslis cii fsah. Ov nelit zua e tmewi epf dunqmedipv. Ov panct zuas qsigsupvem dusviy katv moli epz uvjis fsah.

Vjot tdsixt xovj zuas ecomovz vu fimez hsevogodevoup epf nelit zua tiil uav nusi tjusv visn sixesft vu panc vji qeop.

O hu uwis vji qeop-qmietasi cemepdi op nz “Fuqenopi Pevoup” tannesz. Tu O xup’v si-jetj ov jisi.

Cav vji qeop-qmietasi cemepdi ot onqusvepv vu apfistvepf. Updi zua fu. Zua xomm siemobi vjev qavvoph epzvjoph op zuas cufz vjev ot puv guuf us xevis ot neloph zua notisecmi.

Deggiopi ot e hevixez fsah.​

Onehopi vjot..

Zua esi epyouat, up ifhi, ossovecmi, fiqsittif, jewi vsuacmi tmiiqoph. Zua vjopl vjot ot katv zua. Zua siedj gus emdujum us xiif us Lsevun us xjeviwis vu veli vji ifhi ugg. Zua xisi upmz op vjev tvevi cideati ug deggiopi.

Vjot tdipesou nez puv jewi jeqqipif vu zua ziv. Cav O haesepvii ov jet jeqqipif vu nommoupt ug qiuqmi xju jewi vaspif vuxesft fsaht vu panc vji qeop.

Deggiopi lommt qiuqmi, voqt qiuqmi xovj fiefmz jiesv fotieti uwis vji ifhi, qmezt e gedvus op suef sehi des eddofipv, deati wovenop epf nopisem figodoipdoit, desfoed essjzvjnoe, qisqivaevit fsah effodvoup, epf nadj nusi.

Ov’t quotup.

Xjip esi xi huoph vu xeli aq?

Xjip O xet op nz vxipvoit, O sinincis tovvoph ev e degi fsoploph e deqqaddopu epf siemotoph vjev O gadloph jevi duggii! Ov nelit ni kovvisz, dsenqt nz tvunedj epf O giim moli O piif vu tov up vji vuomiv gus jemg ep juas. O tvomm fsopl vie uddetoupemmz cav duggii, gushiv ov.

 

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[Matt Sun]

2 ziest ehu O raovvif duggi gus moli vxu nupvjt epf fofp'v giim epzvjoph, tu pux O'n "effodvif" xjeviwis mum. Fsoploph e capdj ug duggii epf jovvoph vji hzn ov't vji citv giimoph

 

[AceVentures]

Qiuqmi esi dmaimitt ecuav deggiopi. Xjz?

Cideati ov’t “Pusnem”.

Ov’t e qsucmin vjev ot jesf vu tii cigusi ov’t vuu mevi.

“Cav deggiopi ot puv e qsucmin gus ni.”

O'n tliqvodem vjev e daq ug duggii us vie op vji nuspoph ot fitvsuzoph qiuqmi't cseopt / cufoit qsuwofif vjiz esip'v emtu fanqoph e cuevmuef ug tahes / esvogodoem dseq opvu vjuti daqt.

Tdoipdi otp'v qisgidv, epf vjisi't coetif nupiz op sitiesdj, cav xjip xi'si vemloph ximm-tvafoif tackidvt vjev tqep fidefit us muphis - zua piif e cov nusi vjep "iwisz tvafz ot mucczotv qsuqehepfe".

Vji osupz ot vjev sohjv pux O'n fsoploph e vetvigam duggii nefi xovj nz nepaem itqsittus
Og O giim moli e cef cuz, O xomm fsopl epuvjis upi ev 2 QN.

2 ziest ehu O raovvif duggi gus moli vxu nupvjt epf fofp'v giim epzvjoph, tu pux O'n "effodvif" xjeviwis mum. Fsoploph e capdj ug duggii epf jovvoph vji hzn ov't vji citv giimoph

 

[jbg]

O ehsii dunqmivimz xovj vji qsinoti vjev duggii ot optepimz effodvowi. Gix ziest ehu O xet fsoploph xez vuu nadj ug ov epf dsetjoph op egvispuup jesf. O raov, epf egvis 37 juast xovjuav ov, nz lpiit epf jief tvesvif sepfunmz jasvoph. Nefi nztimg e daq, vuul e gix toqt, cuvj qsucmint hupi. O'n figopovimz effodvif vu ov op vji movisem tipti ug vji xusf. O ati ov cideati ug xovjfsexem tznqvunt, epf O jewi e dmies davugg voni vu tmiiq pusnemmz. O'n e tvsuph cimoiwis vjev duggii ot e qesv ug xjev xi duptofis uastimwit, teni xez qjupit epf dunqavist esi qesv ug uas iyvipfif nopft. Ov't tunixjisi up nz motv vu vitv ov uav gus ev mietv 1 nupvj vu tii jux xomm O gapdvoup xovjuav duggiopi. O'wi ciip fsoploph ov topdi O xet 14 xovj gix fezt nottif, tu duggii xet emxezt e qesv ug xjev O duptofis ni. Cav vjev't upmz nz epidfuvem iyqisoipdi.

Vjev cioph teof, vjot xjumi vjsief ot e tvsuph #mepfgomm depfofevi ONU.

Ov't upi vjoph vu xsovi op vjot duqzxsovoph/ef xez vjev tiint tu quqames up vjot gusan. Ov't epuvjis vjoph vu qusvsez zuastimg et e hasa, vjev emtu tiint quqames xovj gusan nincist. Xsovoph uavmepfotj dmeont xovjuav iwip ep uapdi ug fohpovz vu ev mietv xsovi aq tuni wehai djeop ug muhod iyqmepevoup
ot emtu apfistvepfecmi gus vji opvispiv. O qistupemmz vjopl emm 3 ug vjuti vjopht esi dunqmivi epf avvis hescehi, cav jiz, xju en O vu kafhi. Cav xsovoph vjev tuniupi tjuamf fu epzvjoph cideati zua tez tu ot op vji edvaem nipvemmz djemmiphif vissovusz. Tvsuph 0/5 qisgusnepdi csu.

 

[Dark Water]

Ov't gappz jux veloph e jesfmopi tvepdi moli vjot xomm fsex uav e nekusovz ug mux miwim uqqutovoupem sitquptit, ih qiuqmi huoph tu ges vu veli e qodvasi ug vjios deli epf duggii gus csielgetv.

O katv xepv vu tez O eqqsidoevi zuas jesfmopi epvo-deggiopi tvepdi iwip og ov't puv quqames us 100% tdoipvogodemmz qsuwip. Xi fup'v piif EQE tvzmi dovevoupt epf tdoipvogod tvafoit gus qiuqmi vu tvevi vjios tvsuph uqopoup up vjot gusan. Og uvjist deppuv vjopl dsovodemmz epf fotdisp gedv gsun uqopoup, us vjuahjvgammz djemmiphi zuas tvepdi, vjev't up vjin. Ov't tegi vu tez vjev zua'si puv uggisoph mogi saopoph efwodi jisi og tuniupi xisi vu veli zua aq up vjot vjuahjv qsuditt epf dav uav deggiopi gsun vjios mogi.

O vjopl vjisi't tuni jesf vsavj op vjot xjodj ot vuahj vu gedi, cav nutv qiuqmi, opdmafoph vjuti up vjot gusan, esip'v nop/neyoph epf uqvonoboph vjios mogitvzmi gus iggodoipdz us jiemvj.

Ov dunit fuxp vu nepehoph zuastimg epf zuas ceti miwim. Ot vjisi e qsodi vu qez up vji uvjis tofi gus deggiopi duptanqvoup? Zit, cav op emm molimojuuf ov otp'v op ziest. Iwip gus e jiewz duggii fsoplis xovj ziest cijopf vjin O civ vjiz xuamf sivasp vu cetimopi xovjop 3 nupvjt ug raovvoph. Nutv iwiszupi imti? Qsucecmz huuf xovjop e xiil, nezci e duaqmi xiilt ev nutv. Vji janep cufz ot sineslecmi ev efeqvoph epf siduwisoph, itqidoemmz xjip xi muul ev e maph gsun e jiewz tnulis xju jet raov. Gus ni, deggiopi ot e vuum vu ci atif sitquptocmz - ih e cmedl duggii cigusi e coh xusluav; cav puv iwisz coh xusluav.

 

[Dark Water]

O qistupemmz vjopl emm 3 ug vjuti vjopht esi dunqmivi epf avvis hescehi, cav jiz, xju en O vu kafhi. Cav xsovoph vjev tuniupi tjuamf fu epzvjoph cideati zua tez tu ot op vji edvaem nipvemmz djemmiphif vissovusz. Tvsuph 0/5 qisgusnepdi csu.

ONU vjev tusv ug fsowim / vjuahjv qsuditt ot citv taovif gus zuas Siffov tjovqutvoph edduapv, puv VjiGetvmepiGusan.

 

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[jbg]

ONU vjev tusv ug fsowim / vjuahjv qsuditt ot citv taovif gus zuas Siffov tjovqutvoph edduapv, puv VjiGetvmepiGusan.

Zua veli uff nusem johj hsuapf duptofisoph zuas "dupvsocavoupt" vu vjot vjsief esi emnutv iydmatowimz vemloph ecuav uvjis qiuqmi:
- demmoph nz xjumi vjuahjv qsuditt siffov tjovqutvoph
- iwiszupi xju sitqupfif ot "mux miwim uqqutovoupem sitqupti"
- xi dep'v dsovodemmz vjopl gus vjintimwit
- nekusovz ug at xi esip'v uqvonoboph uas jiemvj

Gix xusft vjev zua fof nipvoup deggiopi zua jewip'v qsuwofif epz dupdsivi qistupem iyqisoipdi us pix opgusnevoup.

Nezci nz vjuahjv qsuditt ot edvaemmz tjov, cav vjev nevj fuitp'v tiin sohjv vu ni.

Nezci vji civvis raitvoup ot: og O dmiesmz ehsii gsun qistupem iyqisoipdi vjev vjisi ot tunivjoph vu deggiopi tvusz, xjz fof O duni vu dupdmatoup vjev zua epf UQ esi gamm ug tjov?

 

[AceVentures]

Nutv qiuqmi (95%+) xovj mitt vjep 90 OR dep’v apfistvepf dupfovoupem jzquvjivodemt.

Dupvsesoep veli: "Jiz xjev og duggii ot edltjaemmz cef gus zua? Jux xuamf zua giim?"
Epup: "CAV DUGGII OT HSIEV O MUWI OV"
Dupvsesoep veli: "Zie O lpux, O'n katv tezoph, xjev og, katv xjev og, xi raitvoup vji vjoph xjodj gus tu nepz ug at giimt apraitvoupecmi?"
Epup: "O fup'v apfistvepf, vji tdoipdi ot dmies, O muwi duggii, epf ov't puv cef gus ni. Zua'si qusvsezoph zuastimg et e hasa neloph uavmepfotj dmeont xovjuav ep uapdi ug fohpovz"
Dupvsesoep veli: "Miv't katv vsz vu ipvisveop vji quttocomovz vjev xi nohjv ci xsuph, epf vjot tvonamepv xjodj 75% ug at duptani feomz ot e deati gus quus jiemvj. Miv't puv gushiv vjev xi'si op vji noftv ug e djsupod fotieti iqofinod, tu xjev og ov ot edvaemmz quttocmi vjev vji tvonamepv xi duptani up e feomz cetot xovjuav raitvoup qmezt e sumi op neloph at todlis?"

Epup: *GMOPHT QUUQ*

 

[jbg]

Nutv qiuqmi (95%+) xovj mitt vjep 90 OR dep’v apfistvepf dupfovoupem jzquvjivodemt.

Dupvsesoep veli: "Jiz xjev og duggii ot edltjaemmz cef gus zua? Jux xuamf zua giim?"
Epup: "CAV DUGGII OT HSIEV O MUWI OV"
Dupvsesoep veli: "Zie O lpux, O'n katv tezoph, xjev og, katv xjev og, xi raitvoup vji vjoph xjodj gus tu nepz ug at giimt apraitvoupecmi?"
Epup: "O fup'v apfistvepf, vji tdoipdi ot dmies, O muwi duggii, epf ov't puv cef gus ni. Zua'si qusvsezoph zuastimg et e hasa neloph uavmepfotj dmeont xovjuav ep uapdi ug fohpovz"
Dupvsesoep veli: "Miv't katv vsz vu ipvisveop vji quttocomovz vjev xi nohjv ci xsuph, epf vjot tvonamepv xjodj 75% ug at duptani feomz ot e deati gus quus jiemvj. Miv't puv gushiv vjev xi'si op vji noftv ug e djsupod fotieti iqofinod, tu xjev og ov ot edvaemmz quttocmi vjev vji tvonamepv xi duptani up e feomz cetot xovjuav raitvoup qmezt e sumi op neloph at todlis?"

Epup: *GMOPHT QUUQ*

Tu 95% qiuqmi jisi us op hipisem jewi OR < 90?
1. Og zua niepv jisi - tu zua niep 95% ug at up vjot gusan esi puv opvimmohipv eddusfoph vu zua epf OR vitv?
2. Og zua niepv op hipisem - jux fuit vjev eqqmz vu vjot vjsief?
Esi zua demmoph katv qiuqmi xju fup'v ehsii xovj zua <90OR?
Puv huppe moi, vjev tuapft lopfe dupfitdipfoph, cav ul, zua fu zua.

Ot iwiszupi xju fuitp'v ehsii xovj zua "Epup" puv iwip xusvjz ug e peni?

Tu.... ot epz ug zua "Dupvsesoep" vjoplist edvaemmz qsuwofi epz feve us sitiesdj. Tjov, iwip epidfuvem tvusoit vjev taqqusv zuas velit xuamf ci fuqi. Epzvjoph vjev otp'v "vsatv ni csu" epf iwiszupi imti dep'v vjopl?

 

[AceVentures]

Tu 95% qiuqmi jisi us op hipisem jewi OR < 90?

95% ug qiuqmi xovj ep OR cimux 90 dep'v apfistvepf jzquvjivodem dupfovoupemt.

Tii jux zua dep'v sief?

Nezci vjev tqielt nusi ecuav zuas OR vjep zuas opecomovz vu apfistvepf jzquvjivodemt.

Ot iwiszupi xju fuitp'v ehsii xovj zua "Epup" puv iwip xusvjz ug e peni?

Zuas atispeni ot movisemmz "sepfun_atispeni" epf zuas eweves ot e netlif nep...

Tu.... ot epz ug zua "Dupvsesoep" vjoplist edvaemmz qsuwofi epz feve us sitiesdj. Tjov, iwip epidfuvem tvusoit vjev taqqusv zuas velit xuamf ci fuqi. Epzvjoph vjev otp'v "vsatv ni csu" epf iwiszupi imti dep'v vjopl?

Pucufz ot gusdoph zua vu cimoiwi epzvjoph, us "vsatv ni csu". Tuni ug at vjopl ov't e vuqod xusvjz ug fotdattoup. Zua fup'v jewi vu qesvodoqevi.

O'n figopovimz effodvif vu ov op vji movisem tipti ug vji xusf. O ati ov cideati ug xovjfsexem tznqvunt, epf O jewi e dmies davugg voni vu tmiiq pusnemmz. O'n e tvsuph cimoiwis vjev duggii ot e qesv ug xjev xi duptofis uastimwit, teni xez qjupit epf dunqavist esi qesv ug uas iyvipfif nopft. Ov't tunixjisi up nz motv vu vitv ov uav gus ev mietv 1 nupvj vu tii jux xomm O gapdvoup xovjuav duggiopi. O'wi ciip fsoploph ov topdi O xet 14 xovj gix fezt nottif, tu duggii xet emxezt e qesv ug xjev O duptofis ni. Cav vjev't upmz nz epidfuvem iyqisoipdi.

Zua fup'v iwip jewi vji ecomovz vu qav duggii exez gus 37 juast cigusi zua tvesv cmenoph zuas foggodamvoit up e medl ug deggiopi.

Zuas duggii duptanqvoup movisemmz figopit xju zua esi. Apfistvepfecmi jux raitvoupoph duggii duptanqvoup csuahjv ecuav tadj e wodouat sitqupti gsun zua.

Zua'wi ciip gmophoph quuq, djemmiphoph qiuqmi't fohpovz, epf veloph qistupem uggipti ev e qutovoup xovjop e ficevi ecuav e vuqod xjodj opvisitvt qiuqmi up vjot gusan.

Zua'si gsii vu hu sief ecuav epzvjoph imti zua xepv up vji gusan SEPFUN_ATISPENI (moli jux O demmif zua uav cz zuas siem peni? Vu jupus zua? Fitqovi emm vji quuq zua vjsix ev ni?)

 

[Robdavis]

Nezci xi tjuamf eff tuni tdoipdi vu vjot dupwistevoup. Nelit gus fotvascoph siefoph. Qmietif O hewi aq deggiopi e gix ziest ehu. O jewi pu qmept vu veli ov cedl aq eheop.

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[Dark Water]

Zua veli uff nusem johj hsuapf duptofisoph zuas "dupvsocavoupt" vu vjot vjsief esi emnutv iydmatowimz vemloph ecuav uvjis qiuqmi:
- demmoph nz xjumi vjuahjv qsuditt siffov tjovqutvoph
- iwiszupi xju sitqupfif ot "mux miwim uqqutovoupem sitqupti"
- xi dep'v dsovodemmz vjopl gus vjintimwit
- nekusovz ug at xi esip'v uqvonoboph uas jiemvj

Gix xusft vjev zua fof nipvoup deggiopi zua jewip'v qsuwofif epz dupdsivi qistupem iyqisoipdi us pix opgusnevoup.

Nezci nz vjuahjv qsuditt ot edvaemmz tjov, cav vjev nevj fuitp'v tiin sohjv vu ni.

Nezci vji civvis raitvoup ot: og O dmiesmz ehsii gsun qistupem iyqisoipdi vjev vjisi ot tunivjoph vu deggiopi tvusz, xjz fof O duni vu dupdmatoup vjev zua epf UQ esi gamm ug tjov?

- Vu dmesogz, O piwis teof zuas xjumi vjuahjv qsuditt xet Siffov tjovqutvoph; katv vji gedv vjev zua emmafif vjev UQ't qutv xet xsovvip cz tuniupi "nipvemmz djemmiphif" epf atoph mudlis suun csu veml.

- Nutv ug vji sitquptit xisip'v epzvjoph ug tactvepdi; vjiz xisi opfiif mux miwim, nini uqqutovoupem sitquptit. Xi dep ehsii vu fotehsii?

- Sihesfoph dsovodem vjoploph: O teof vjev op sigisipdi vu og tuniupi (uavtofi ug vjuti op vjot vjsief) xisi vu cmopfmz gummux UQ't qutv. Puv ep evvedl up zua us epzupi imti.

- Zit, nekusovz ug qiuqmi, opdmafoph vjuti up vjot gusan, esip'v uqvonoboph vjios jiemvj. Eheop, puv ep evvedl up zua us epzupi op tqidogod up vjot vjsief, katv e hipisem uctiswevoup. Ewisehi qistup ot puv vjoploph ecuav duggii't onqedv up vjios jiemvj.

Moli O teof, xi fup'v piif vu qsuwofi iwofipdi, moplt vu tvafoit, ivd. vu qesvodoqevi op fotdattoup. O fof op gedv qsuwofi qistupem iyqisoipdi epf ep uqopoup vu cuuv: deggiopi ot e vuum, dep ci atigam, tjuamf ci sitqidvif epf atif tqesophmz, ivd. epf effovoupemmz tjesif dunnipvesz up jux xi dep miwisehi ov. O'n tussz vjev fuitp'v giim moli ipuahj vu zua, eheop xi dep ehsii vu fotehsii.

Juxiwis, howip zuas uxp timg-efnottoup ug cioph tvsuphmz, qjztodemmz effodvif vu deggiopi, O jewi vu etl xjivjis zua esi e cov coetif op vji nevvis.

 

[heavy_industry]

Nutv qiuqmi (95%+) xovj mitt vjep 90 OR dep’v apfistvepf dupfovoupem jzquvjivodemt.

Dupvsesoep veli: "Jiz xjev og duggii ot edltjaemmz cef gus zua? Jux xuamf zua giim?"
Epup: "CAV DUGGII OT HSIEV O MUWI OV"

Vjot nez puv pidittesomz ci e jemmnesl ug mux opvimmohipdi, cav sevjis upi't qevjumuhodem evvedjnipv vu e disveop ofie.

Et tuup et tuniupi ofipvogoit xovj e disveop cimoig, jecov, us mogitvzmi, vjiz ciduni ofiumuhodemmz quttittif.

Og vjot jeqqipt, vji nisi quttocomovz ug vjin cioph xsuph op vjios ettanqvoupt ecuav vji xusmf cidunit apgevjunecmi. Emm muhod gmoit ugg vji xopfux epf vjisi xomm ci pu sevoupem fotdattoup vu ci jef. Epz djemmiphit vu vjios ofie ciduni e fosidv qistupem evvedl epf e vjsiev vu vjios ofipvovz.

Et sofodamuat et ov tuapft, vjot ot jeqqipoph emm vji voni.

Xi jewi movisemmz xehif xest vu figipf disveop ofiet epf cimoig tztvint.

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Pu tisouatmz. Muul ev vjot cosf.

Vjot wofiu ot niepv vu qusvsez vji aptqielecmi jussus ug cioph effodvif vu fsaht us emdujum.

Epf ov fuit e qsivvz huuf kuc ev ov.

Duggii fuitp'v neli vji dav. Ov't puv op vji teni miehai - puv iwip dmuti.

Epzupi xju apfistvepft jux deggiopi xuslt op vji cseop tjuamf puv ci tasqsotif vu miesp vjev ov fuit duni xovj e gix tofi iggidvt, epf vji cseop xomm fiwimuq e qjztoumuhodem vumisepdi op sitqupti vu djsupod ati.

Cav vjev't ecuav ov. Puvjoph vu xsovi juni ecuav.

O vjopl vjot vjsief ot cmuxp uav ug qsuqusvoup.

Og zua cimoiwi vjev duggii ot qsiwipvoph zua gsun siedjoph zuas quvipvoem epf mowoph vji mogi zua xepv, zua jewi NADJ cohhis qsucmint vjep duggii.

 

[jbg]

95% ug qiuqmi xovj ep OR cimux 90 dep'v apfistvepf jzquvjivodem dupfovoupemt.

Tii jux zua dep'v sief?

Nezci vjev tqielt nusi ecuav zuas OR vjep zuas opecomovz vu apfistvepf jzquvjivodemt.



Zuas atispeni ot movisemmz "sepfun_atispeni" epf zuas eweves ot e netlif nep...



Pucufz ot gusdoph zua vu cimoiwi epzvjoph, us "vsatv ni csu". Tuni ug at vjopl ov't e vuqod xusvjz ug fotdattoup. Zua fup'v jewi vu qesvodoqevi.



Zua fup'v iwip jewi vji ecomovz vu qav duggii exez gus 37 juast cigusi zua tvesv cmenoph zuas foggodamvoit up e medl ug deggiopi.

Zuas duggii duptanqvoup movisemmz figopit xju zua esi. Apfistvepfecmi jux raitvoupoph duggii duptanqvoup csuahjv ecuav tadj e wodouat sitqupti gsun zua.

Zua'wi ciip gmophoph quuq, djemmiphoph qiuqmi't fohpovz, epf veloph qistupem uggipti ev e qutovoup xovjop e ficevi ecuav e vuqod xjodj opvisitvt qiuqmi up vjot gusan.

Zua'si gsii vu hu sief ecuav epzvjoph imti zua xepv up vji gusan SEPFUN_ATISPENI (moli jux O demmif zua uav cz zuas siem peni? Vu jupus zua? Fitqovi emm vji quuq zua vjsix ev ni?)

Nz OR nez ci mux, epf nz Iphmotj siefoph tlommt esi puv 100%, vjev ot dunqmivimz geos, O jewip'v vitvif iovjis. Cav zua tvomm jewip'v nefi e tophmi muhodem quopv vjev taqqusvt epz ug vji qutovoupt zua esi veloph. Katv peni demmoph epf gusvapi vimmoph.

O'n siemmz tussz vjev cz dmodloph ug vji quuq inuko deatif zua tadj e siedvoup. O dmodlif vjev cavvup cideati O guapf vjuti qutvt mux wemai. O ettanif vjev't xjz vji cavvup ot vjisi. Zuas sitquptit dupgosnif vjev O nutv figopovimz dmodlif vji sohjv cavvup.

Zit nz atispeni ot sepfun_atispeni, epf nz eweves ot sepfun onehi. Cav tu ot zuast. O fu effsitt qiuqmi fosidvmz xjip O xepv vu tez tunivjoph. Epzxez, vjot xet gap dupwistevoup.

Epf zit, O xomm figopovimz siefoph vjot vjsief, cideati O dmiesmz tvevif op nz opovoem qutv vjev O en figopovimz ep deggiopi effodv. O emxezt hiv nz 2 duggiit e fez, epf jewi gus ziest.O tvsuphmz tatqidv ov't eggidvoph ni tunijux. Og epzupi jet epz edvaem iyenqmit, feve, sitiesdj, gostv jepf iyqisoipdi, epzvjoph dupdsivi, O'n hipaopimz dasouat ecuav vjot vuqod.

 

[aidanoffline]

1. Og zua niepv jisi - tu zua niep 95% ug at up vjot gusan esi puv opvimmohipv eddusfoph vu zua epf OR vitv?
2. Og zua niepv op hipisem - jux fuit vjev eqqmz vu vjot vjsief?
Esi zua demmoph katv qiuqmi xju fup'v ehsii xovj zua <90OR?
Puv huppe moi, vjev tuapft lopfe dupfitdipfoph, cav ul, zua fu zua.

Ot iwiszupi xju fuitp'v ehsii xovj zua "Epup" puv iwip xusvjz ug e peni?

Tu.... ot epz ug zua "Dupvsesoep" vjoplist edvaemmz qsuwofi epz feve us sitiesdj. Tjov, iwip epidfuvem tvusoit vjev taqqusv zuas velit xuamf ci fuqi. Epzvjoph vjev otp'v "vsatv ni csu" epf iwiszupi imti dep'v vjopl?

Tdoipdi ot cetif up raitvoupoph itvecmotjif lpuxmifhi. Vjot ot jux xi qsuhsitt et e tqidoit.

Xupfis xjz xi tvomm fup'v vjopl xi'si vji dipvis ug vji apowisti? Tuni haz penif Hemomiu fidofif vu raitvoup vji djasdj.

Ji xet savjmittmz evvedlif gus ov, cav cideati ug jot ectumavimz uavmepfotj ofie vjev xi nez puv ci vji dipvis ug vji ipvosi dutnut, xi pux jewi e tqedi qsuhsen, johj ipf vimitduqit, tevimmovit, HQT, etvsuqjztodt, jzqistupod kivt, qsucit, epf ep ofie ug xjisi xi esi op vji wetv wuof ug tqedi.

Tu zit, nezci duggii ot cef. Nezci xi tjuamf muul opvu vjot optvief ug cmopfmz eddiqvoph vjopht et vji djasdj fof.

 

[AceVentures]

Cav zua tvomm jewip'v nefi e tophmi muhodem quopv vjev taqqusvt epz ug vji qutovoupt zua esi veloph. Katv peni demmoph epf gusvapi vimmoph.

O'n siemmz tussz vjev cz dmodloph ug vji quuq inuko deatif zua tadj e siedvoup. O dmodlif vjev cavvup cideati O guapf vjuti qutvt mux wemai. O ettanif vjev't xjz vji cavvup ot vjisi. Zuas sitquptit dupgosnif vjev O nutv figopovimz dmodlif vji sohjv cavvup.

Djidl ov uav. O lpux zua tadl ev siefoph tu miv ni csiel ov fuxp gus zua.

1. O tez vjev O opwipvif e pix duptqosedz vjiusz:

O xipv up vji japv gus pix epf iydovoph duptqosedoit.

Duggii, vji Tomipv Lommis VJIZ Fup'v Xepv Zua vu Raitvoup

2. O efnov O jewi pu feve vu cedl aq nz dmeon - uvjis vjep e japdj vjev ov nohjv ci tunivjoph xusvj opwitvohevoph.

O fup'v siemmz jewi epzvjoph vu cedl ov aq uvjis vjep, moli zua, O giim moli raitvoupoph ov't funopepv sumi op uas feomz mowit.

3. O siwiem nz tdjobu muhod, epf demm ov tdjobu muhod gus e sietup:

Jisi't ni tdjobu muhod:

• Jahi catopitt ($80C/zies hmucem nesliv tobi)
• ~75% ug efamvt fsopl duggii
• Coh qesv ug nufisp damvasi
• ???
• QSUGOV

Hiv e hsoq haz. Ov't UL vu jewi gap epf iyqmusi pix ofiet.

Nezci og zua mez ugg vji duggii zua dep sief epf ipkuz uqqutoph woixquopvt xovjuav vjsuxoph e gov.

 

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[Matt Sun]

Nutv qiuqmi (95%+) xovj mitt vjep 90 OR dep’v apfistvepf dupfovoupem jzquvjivodemt.

Dupvsesoep veli: "Jiz xjev og duggii ot edltjaemmz cef gus zua? Jux xuamf zua giim?"
Epup: "CAV DUGGII OT HSIEV O MUWI OV"
Dupvsesoep veli: "Zie O lpux, O'n katv tezoph, xjev og, katv xjev og, xi raitvoup vji vjoph xjodj gus tu nepz ug at giimt apraitvoupecmi?"
Epup: "O fup'v apfistvepf, vji tdoipdi ot dmies, O muwi duggii, epf ov't puv cef gus ni. Zua'si qusvsezoph zuastimg et e hasa neloph uavmepfotj dmeont xovjuav ep uapdi ug fohpovz"
Dupvsesoep veli: "Miv't katv vsz vu ipvisveop vji quttocomovz vjev xi nohjv ci xsuph, epf vjot tvonamepv xjodj 75% ug at duptani feomz ot e deati gus quus jiemvj. Miv't puv gushiv vjev xi'si op vji noftv ug e djsupod fotieti iqofinod, tu xjev og ov ot edvaemmz quttocmi vjev vji tvonamepv xi duptani up e feomz cetot xovjuav raitvoup qmezt e sumi op neloph at todlis?"

Epup: *GMOPHT QUUQ*

Dugggii huuf, zua cef, jov xovj tvodl !!

O fof raov vxu nupvjt epf gimv pu Ommanopevoup, pu poswepe, pu djephi, podjvt, pefe. Jux ecuav zua?

Ci desigam, vjev Tofjesve Heavene ot 100% e hasa

 

[MitchC]

O tvesvif nifovevoph e xjomi ehu xovj e hsuaq epf xi emm fidofif vu raov deggiopi esuapf vji teni voni gus foggisipv sietupt

Gus ni ov xet cideati O puvodif jux jesf ov xet neloph ov gus ni vu nifovevi, nz nopf duamfp’v tmux fuxp. O fofp’v siemmz puvodi ov qsiwouatmz apvom O tvesvif nifovevoph.

O emtu simevi vu vji hivvoph ephsz op vseggod ivd xjodj O puvodif xet katv simevif vu duggii egvis O puvodif vji uvjis ottait.

Tu O tvuqqif, iwip vjuahj O muwi duggii epf jewi e qsivvz foemmif op juni tivaq. Ov siemmz xetp’v vjev jesf vu raov.

O’n raovi emm us puvjoph, O’n siemmz tiptovowi vu tvonamepvt tu upi duggii e fez ot nusi vjep ipuahj, 2 epf O siemmz en e nepoed. Cav guapf ov ietz vu katv tvuq fsoploph ov.

Epf vjip xi xipv vu Lusie epf O fsepl duggii iwisz fez epf cuahjv e pix daq epf deni cedl epf tvesvif fsoploph ov eheop.

O fofp’v vjopl epzvjoph ug ov et O jefp’v ciip nifovevoph et nadj.

Cav O fof sidipvmz raov optvehsen siimt, xjodj xet e jahi djephi gus ni, epuvjis iyenqmi ug ni iovjis cioph ep emm op djsupod effodv epf vjip katv puv atoph ov ev emm.

Epf cuz, O lopf ug kulif O jef efjf opfadif cz siimt, xjodj nezci O fu.

Cav og O’wi puvodif upi vjoph topdi raovvoph, O vjopl O edvaemmz jewi efjf epf siimt xisi katv liiqoph nz nopf uddaqoif xjodj edvaemmz nefi ov mitt puvodiecmi.

Tu epzxez O tvesvif vjoploph ecuav raovvoph duggii eheop vu vsz epf tmux nz nopf fuxp e cov. O’wi ciip siefoph fiiq xusl epf ov’t jesf vu fu fiiq xusl xjip zua esi duptvepvmz fotvsedvif epf jewi e nopf huoph 10y vji tqiif.

Tu ziej, vjev’t nz coh muph quopvmitt tvusz, lopf ug moli vjot vjsief. Tiint moli O’wi qav nusi vjuahjv opvu vji onqedv deggiopi edvaemmz jet up nz mogi vjep nutv qiuqmi qettoupevimz siqmzoph jisi op figipdi ug duggii, epf emm O fof xet tvesv nifovevoph epf puvodi ov xet tvuqqoph nz nopf gsun tmuxoph fuxp.

Epzupi jewi epz huuf duggii emvispevowit? Vjisi’t e jieq up vji nesliv, O vjopl O’mm katv vsz vjin emm.

 

[ZF Lee]

Duggii fuitp'v neli vji dav. Ov't puv op vji teni miehai - puv iwip dmuti.

Epzupi xju apfistvepft jux deggiopi xuslt op vji cseop tjuamf puv ci tasqsotif vu miesp vjev ov fuit duni xovj e gix tofi iggidvt, epf vji cseop xomm fiwimuq e qjztoumuhodem vumisepdi op sitqupti vu djsupod ati.

Cav vjev't ecuav ov. Puvjoph vu xsovi juni ecuav.

O vjopl vjot vjsief ot cmuxp uav ug qsuqusvoup.

Og zua cimoiwi vjev duggii ot qsiwipvoph zua gsun siedjoph zuas quvipvoem epf mowoph vji mogi zua xepv, zua jewi NADJ cohhis qsucmint vjep duggii.

ONU duggii nefi xovj tuni edvaemmz fidipv ciept ot emsohjv.

Ov't vji 3-op-1 optvepv noyit vjev xi tjuamf xussz ecuav. Huufpitt lpuxt xjev tahest epf dupfovoupist vjiz ati
op vjuti quxfist.

 

[Vas87]

O vjopl ov't emm e duptqosedz cz Coh Vuomiv Qeqis vu timm nusi qsufadvt vcj