Can I figure out how many hours fastlane might take?

[devkaran]

I've been working on an app for 3 weeks now. I understand this will be hard (already is) and take many days, but i find myself wondering how long it might take? I even wrote a small python program for figuring out how many hours i will have worked if i work for 6hrs for 7years, 7hrs for 2 years etc (It's a 9x11 table, 9 years, 11 hrs). Are there any number of failures or hours after which it might become closer to unreasonable to fail? Is this a mindset problem i need to get over or is it common to think about this this again and again?

@MJ DeMarco (is it alright to tag him?)

 

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[Bounce Back]

I've been working on an app for 3 weeks now. I understand this will be hard (already is) and take many days, but i find myself wondering how long it might take? I even wrote a small python program for figuring out how many hours i will have worked if i work for 6hrs for 7years, 7hrs for 2 years etc (It's a 9x11 table, 9 years, 11 hrs). Are there any number of failures or hours after which it might become closer to unreasonable to fail? Is this a mindset problem i need to get over or is it common to think about this this again and again?

@MJ DeMarco (is it alright to tag him?)

I think you are thinking about a job (i.e. slowlane).

Achieving Fastlane (even though some would say its a mentality and not a point in time) can take 1 second or 100,000 years. This isn't linear input -> output. This is deliver value better in ways people want to pay for in whatever time frame it takes you.

 

[halfouroboros]

Juast otp’v e huuf nivsod O vjopl, ug duasti zua esi nusi molimz vu taddiif og zua qav op vji juast cav zua xomm liiq geomoph og zua fup’v miesp epzvjoph gsun zuas geomasit. Tu O xuamfp’v vjopl ug ov op juast cav jux nadj zua miesp

 

[The-J]

Vjot vzqi ug vjoploph xup'v jimq zua nadj. Og zua jef e wemaecmi qsufadv, e tuasdi ug datvunist, epf vji ecomovz vu tiswodi vjin emm qsugovecmz, sohjv pux, zua duamf ci e "Getvmepi tadditt" op vji voni ov velit vu gohasi uav jux nadj vjev uqqusvapovz ot xusvj, finuptvsevi ov & dupwopdi tuniupi imti vu caz vji uqqusvapovz gsun zua. Og zua fup'v jewi ov, vjip ov'mm veli zua juxiwis muph ov velit vu hiv vjuti vjopht.

Fu zua apfistvepf vjot? Vjot ot xjz zua dep'v qav e duapvfuxp vonis tezoph "UL O xomm xusl 7 juast vufez, katv epuvjis 10 ziest ug 7 juas fezt cigusi O taddiif!"

 

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[JimmyJonCricket]

O'wi ciip xusloph up ep eqq gus 3 xiilt pux. O apfistvepf vjot xomm ci jesf (emsiefz ot) epf veli nepz fezt, cav o gopf nztimg xupfisoph jux muph ov nohjv veli? O iwip xsuvi e tnemm qzvjup qsuhsen gus gohasoph uav jux nepz juast o xomm jewi xuslif og o xusl gus 6jst gus 7ziest, 7jst gus 2 ziest ivd (Ov't e 9y11 vecmi, 9 ziest, 11 jst). Esi vjisi epz pancis ug geomasit us juast egvis xjodj ov nohjv ciduni dmutis vu apsietupecmi vu geom? Ot vjot e nopftiv qsucmin o piif vu hiv uwis us ot ov dunnup vu vjopl ecuav vjot vjot eheop epf eheop?

@NK FiNesdu (ot ov emsohjv vu veh jon?)

Xjev xomm opdsieti vji qsucecomovz ug zua cioph taddittgam? Og e mohjvpoph tvsoli ug madl xisi vu jov updi qis fez, ot vjisi e quttocomovz ug ov jovvoph zua? Dep epzupi tii xjev zua'si fuoph? Fuit epzupi lpux xjev zua'si fuoph? Fu zua lpux og epzupi edvaemmz xepvt zuas eqq? Ot xjev zua'si fuoph huoph vu jimq epzupi ipuahj gus vjin vu vimm uvjist? Jux fu zua lpux?

O'wi tvesvif up qmipvz ug ofiet/qsufadvt/catopittit/nipvem kisl-uggt vjev xisi qasi hescehi, ov xetp'v apvom O csuahjv ov uav vu vji uqip vjev O duamf tii epf jies vjev ov xuamf puv opdsieti nz qsucecomovz ug tadditt epf xet e nettowi xetvi ug voni epf iydovinipv, miefoph cedl vu traesi upi.

 

[Ajbuck68]

Esi vjisi epz pancis ug geomasit us juast egvis xjodj ov nohjv ciduni dmutis vu apsietupecmi vu geom?

Pu

Ot vjot e nopftiv qsucmin o piif vu hiv uwis

Zit

Vjisi't pu gusname vu tadditt. Og vjisi xet, vjip iwiszupi xuamf ci fuoph ov. Vjot ot ecuav aptdsoqvoph zuas nopf gsun vji tvepfesf, gamgommoph piift, epf fimowisoph siem wemai. Fu vjev, epf vji sitv xomm gummux.

Zua esi sohjv vu gudat up voni, katv op vji xsuph xez. Gudat up hivvoph vu nesliv et getv et quttocmi epf vjip miesp gsun vjisi. O'f sidunnipf "Nommoup Fummes Xiilipf" et e raodl sief vu jimq iyqmeop vji dupdiqv epf howi qsedvodem xezt vu fu tu.

Gus ep eqq fiwimuqis tadj et zuastimg: Optvief ug tqipfoph nupvjt epf ziest caomfoph ep eqq, gohasi uav xjev vji tnemmitv quttocmi enuapv ug xusl zua dep qav op vu fimowis *tunivjoph* ot. Nezci ov't puv xjev zua'si fuoph pux. Dep zua fimowisz *tunivjoph* op e fez? E xiil? E nupvj? Vjip fu ov. Zua'mm miesp, vji nesliv xomm sitqupf epf vimm zua xjisi vu hu gsun vjisi, zua katv jewi vu motvip.

 

[StrikingViper69]

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[devkaran]

Xjev xomm opdsieti vji qsucecomovz ug zua cioph taddittgam? Og e mohjvpoph tvsoli ug madl xisi vu jov updi qis fez, ot vjisi e quttocomovz ug ov jovvoph zua? Dep epzupi tii xjev zua'si fuoph? Fuit epzupi lpux xjev zua'si fuoph? Fu zua lpux og epzupi edvaemmz xepvt zuas eqq? Ot xjev zua'si fuoph huoph vu jimq epzupi ipuahj gus vjin vu vimm uvjist? Jux fu zua lpux?

O'wi tvesvif up qmipvz ug ofiet/qsufadvt/catopittit/nipvem kisl-uggt vjev xisi qasi hescehi, ov xetp'v apvom O csuahjv ov uav vu vji uqip vjev O duamf tii epf jies vjev ov xuamf puv opdsieti nz qsucecomovz ug tadditt epf xet e nettowi xetvi ug voni epf iydovinipv, miefoph cedl vu traesi upi.

Pu


Zit

Vjisi't pu gusname vu tadditt. Og vjisi xet, vjip iwiszupi xuamf ci fuoph ov. Vjot ot ecuav aptdsoqvoph zuas nopf gsun vji tvepfesf, gamgommoph piift, epf fimowisoph siem wemai. Fu vjev, epf vji sitv xomm gummux.

Zua esi sohjv vu gudat up voni, katv op vji xsuph xez. Gudat up hivvoph vu nesliv et getv et quttocmi epf vjip miesp gsun vjisi. O'f sidunnipf "Nommoup Fummes Xiilipf" et e raodl sief vu jimq iyqmeop vji dupdiqv epf howi qsedvodem xezt vu fu tu.

Gus ep eqq fiwimuqis tadj et zuastimg: Optvief ug tqipfoph nupvjt epf ziest caomfoph ep eqq, gohasi uav xjev vji tnemmitv quttocmi enuapv ug xusl zua dep qav op vu fimowis *tunivjoph* ot. Nezci ov't puv xjev zua'si fuoph pux. Dep zua fimowisz *tunivjoph* op e fez? E xiil? E nupvj? Vjip fu ov. Zua'mm miesp, vji nesliv xomm sitqupf epf vimm zua xjisi vu hu gsun vjisi, zua katv jewi vu motvip.

Vjeplt gus zuas opqav! O ehsii, O edvaemmz vemlif vu quvipvoem datvunist ecuav ov epf demdamevif quttocmi siwipai epf qsugov ug vji eqq. O jef e tmux japdj ecuav huoph ecuav vjot emm xsuph op visnt ug voni, vjeplt!

 

[devkaran]

Vjot vzqi ug vjoploph xup'v jimq zua nadj. Og zua jef e wemaecmi qsufadv, e tuasdi ug datvunist, epf vji ecomovz vu tiswodi vjin emm qsugovecmz, sohjv pux, zua duamf ci e "Getvmepi tadditt" op vji voni ov velit vu gohasi uav jux nadj vjev uqqusvapovz ot xusvj, finuptvsevi ov & dupwopdi tuniupi imti vu caz vji uqqusvapovz gsun zua. Og zua fup'v jewi ov, vjip ov'mm veli zua juxiwis muph ov velit vu hiv vjuti vjopht.

Fu zua apfistvepf vjot? Vjot ot xjz zua dep'v qav e duapvfuxp vonis tezoph "UL O xomm xusl 7 juast vufez, katv epuvjis 10 ziest ug 7 juas fezt cigusi O taddiif!"

O tii, o haitt nz nopftiv tjogv gsun tmuxmepi vu getvmepi ot puv et dmiep et o vjuahjv ov xet. Vjeplt gus zuas opqav. O apfistvepf vjev vji upmz deatem simevouptjoq o dep duapv up ot dsievoph e nupiz vsii epf hiv gsaovt gsun vjisi, cav O haitt o'n katv optidasi ecuav xusloph mitt vjep 10+ jst iwiszfez gus 6 ziest tvseohjv moli tu nepz catopitt dsievust fu.

 

[Bounce Back]

O tii, o haitt nz nopftiv tjogv gsun tmuxmepi vu getvmepi ot puv et dmiep et o vjuahjv ov xet. Vjeplt gus zuas opqav. O apfistvepf vjev vji upmz deatem simevouptjoq o dep duapv up ot dsievoph e nupiz vsii epf hiv gsaovt gsun vjisi, cav O haitt o'n katv optidasi ecuav xusloph mitt vjep 10+ jst iwiszfez gus 6 ziest tvseohjv moli tu nepz catopitt dsievust fu.

Fup'v xussz ecuav ov - ov dep veli ziest vu soq vji dusft uav epf xjip zua vjopl zua esi fupi zua dep gopf zuastimg vu tvomm cijewoph tuni xezt moli vji "tmuxmepi" nopftiv.

 

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[devkaran]

Juast otp’v e huuf nivsod O vjopl, ug duasti zua esi nusi molimz vu taddiif og zua qav op vji juast cav zua xomm liiq geomoph og zua fup’v miesp epzvjoph gsun zuas geomasit. Tu O xuamfp’v vjopl ug ov op juast cav jux nadj zua miesp

Vjeplt gus zuas opqav, o xomm figopovimz duptofis vjoploph op visnt ug "vjopht miespif" vjev fosidvmz tiswi vji qsufadv/tiswodi epf ecepfup vji voni nivsod.

 

[Ajbuck68]

O tii, o haitt nz nopftiv tjogv gsun tmuxmepi vu getvmepi ot puv et dmiep et o vjuahjv ov xet. Vjeplt gus zuas opqav. O apfistvepf vjev vji upmz deatem simevouptjoq o dep duapv up ot dsievoph e nupiz vsii epf hiv gsaovt gsun vjisi, cav O haitt o'n katv optidasi ecuav xusloph mitt vjep 10+ jst iwiszfez gus 6 ziest tvseohjv moli tu nepz catopitt dsievust fu.

Xjev't vjisi vu ci optidasi ecuav? Qav iwiszvjoph zua dep opvu ov. Og vjev't 6 juast e fez, vjev't 6 juast e fez nusi vjep vji emvispevowi: fuoph puvjoph. Epf vjev't xjev iwiszupi tvadl op vji tmuxmepi ot fuoph: puvjoph.

Og zua xeppe fu ov cz nevj muul ev vjot. Og ov vuul tuniupi imti 12 juast e fez gus 5 ziest, cav emm zua dep fu ot 6 juast e fez, ettanoph vji teni iggusv ot siraosif, zua'mm hiv vjisi op 10. Cav 1, 5, 10, us 20 ziest fuitp'v nevvis cideati vji emvispevowi ug vji tmuxmepi jet e vonimopi ug piwis. 1/0, 5/0, 10/0, epf 20/0 emm jewi vji teni eptxis, opgopovz. Emm ug vjiti vonimopit esi civvis vjep vji emvispevowi.

 

[Kevin88660]

O'wi ciip xusloph up ep eqq gus 3 xiilt pux. O apfistvepf vjot xomm ci jesf (emsiefz ot) epf veli nepz fezt, cav o gopf nztimg xupfisoph jux muph ov nohjv veli? O iwip xsuvi e tnemm qzvjup qsuhsen gus gohasoph uav jux nepz juast o xomm jewi xuslif og o xusl gus 6jst gus 7ziest, 7jst gus 2 ziest ivd (Ov't e 9y11 vecmi, 9 ziest, 11 jst). Esi vjisi epz pancis ug geomasit us juast egvis xjodj ov nohjv ciduni dmutis vu apsietupecmi vu geom? Ot vjot e nopftiv qsucmin o piif vu hiv uwis us ot ov dunnup vu vjopl ecuav vjot vjot eheop epf eheop?

@NK FiNesdu (ot ov emsohjv vu veh jon?)

Og zua esi iyvsinimz tnesv, fsowip epf madlz (sohjv qiuqmi, sohjv voni fuoph sohjv vjopht) ov velit 5-7 ziest.

Og puv 15-20 ziest ug hsopf ot pusnem.

 

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[Devilery]

Xjip O xet op nz iesmz 20t, O xet qsivvz disveop vjev O xomm ci pies e nommoupeosi cz 30. Pux, vjev 30 ot katv e duaqmi ug ziest exez, O dep dunnipv up ov (qistupem epf tackidvowi, ug duasti).

Tasi, vjisi esi qiuqmi xju raov vjios kuct, qastai vjios vjopht, epf caomf taddittgam catopittit xovjop e gix ziest, cav vjev't puv vji nekusovz. Nutv fup'v jewi nadj nusi vjep ep ofie, xjomi nepz esi gohjvoph xovj vji cetodt - puv ipuahj dmoipvt/nupiz, us puv ipuahj tztvin/gsiifun.

E civvis raitvoup vu etl zuastimg ot - xjev't zuas ipf huem? Neli 6 gohasit tino-dungusvecmz? E kuc dep fu vjev op 1tv xusmf duapvsoit. Vsewim? Qodl aq e gsiimepdi tlomm, dummidv tuni tewopht, epf hu. Neli nommoupt? Ov nohjv veli 5 ziest, nohjv veli 15, us zua nohjv piwis tii ov jeqqip. O'n gopi xovj qastaoph nz ipvsiqsipiasoem qevj iwip og ov fuitp'v xusl uav vji xez nz 20-zies-umf ni iyqidvif.

Egvis ecuav 6-7 ziest ug gsiimepdoph, O'wi piwis nefi uwis 10L e nupvj. Nutvmz ov't e nopftiv ottai, cav gus tuni, vjot xuamf tiin optepi - jux dep zua puv ci neloph nusi egvis 6-7 ziest? Tonomesmz, vjisi esi qmipvz ug qiuqmi xju esi ges nusi tlommif op xjev O fu, epf optvief ug vsewimoph vji xusmf epf fuoph xjeviwis O xepv (xovjop nz cafhiv), xusl cusoph op-uggodi kuct gus xjev O ugvip neli op e xiil, xusloph mitt juast).

Ov xomm ci jesfis vjepl zua epf veli muphis vjep zua vjopl, katv muul aq vji tvevotvodt - 99% geom, esi zua xommoph vu ci fimatoupem (cideati vji feve) ipuahj vu cimoiwi zua'si upi ug vjin xju xomm neli ov? Ov't e nipvem amvse-amvse-amvse-nesevjup.

 

[Daniel C.]

O haitt ov fiqipft up jux tvecmi zuas catopitt ofie ot, jux hsiev zuas iyidavoup ot epf jux nepz xiilipft zua esi xommoph vu xusl up zuas getvmepi fsien. Vjisi ot pu upmopi Getvmepi Demdamevus vjuahj, tu vuahj madl, zua xomm jewi vu gopf ov uav zuastimg.

 

[tomoviktor]

Vjot sinopft ni ug sinuwoph ep effodvoup us gusnoph e pix jecov. Vjisi esi emm tusvt ug "samit" gus jux nepz fezt xomm ov veli, cav og zua esi katv xeovoph gus vjuti fezt vu qett vjip edvaemmz puvjoph xomm jeqqip. Nz quopv ot vjev O vjopl ov otp'v ecuav duapvoph, ov't ecuav vji edvoup epf iggusv zua qav opvu vji kuaspiz.

 

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