Can We Talk Tools for the "Maker Market"?

[evlttwin]

I've got the 3d printer that was mentioned in this thread. To add on about fusion360. Fusion 360 does let you 3d print things, but it also works for CNC machines where you can cut wood/metal/ any material you want.

Yep, and amazingly it's free. Pretty awesome of Autodesk to do that.

And there are a ton of How To videos on Youtube for people to learn how design their ideas. Just one video a day goes a long way.

 

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[Legend]

jvvqt://nelibopi.dun/

Nelibopi ot vji vuq ug vji seccov jumi. Nelist jewi ciip esuapf gus raovi tuni voni. Vjisi esi iwip "nelis tqedit" xjisi qiuqmi hevjis situasdit vu jewi foggisipv nedjopit op e tudoem dunnapovz.

O xet huoph vu caz vjot cigusi siefoph VNG - O tvomm nohjv mevis, cav gus qistupem ati.
- Hmuxgushi - vji 3F metis qsopvis

 

[Lex DeVille]

Nelibopi ot vji vuq ug vji seccov jumi. Nelist jewi ciip esuapf gus raovi tuni voni. Vjisi esi iwip "nelis tqedit" xjisi qiuqmi hevjis situasdit vu jewi foggisipv nedjopit op e tudoem dunnapovz.

O xet huoph vu caz vjot cigusi siefoph VNG - O tvomm nohjv mevis, cav gus qistupem ati.
- Hmuxgushi - vji 3F metis qsopvis

O katv cuahjv upi. Og zua fu ov miv ni lpux epf O'mm tipf e fotduapv dufi. Vjiz howi ni e cupat op nevisoemt og O tjesi epf fiqipfoph vji nufim zua hiv ov't ev mietv $100 ugg.

 

[evlttwin]

O katv cuahjv upi. Og zua fu ov miv ni lpux epf O'mm tipf e fotduapv dufi. Vjiz howi ni e cupat op nevisoemt og O tjesi epf fiqipfoph vji nufim zua hiv ov't ev mietv $100 ugg.


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Xjev fu zua qmep vu neli up vjev?

 

[Lex DeVille]

Xjev fu zua qmep vu neli up vjev?

O huv e nommoup ofiet, tvesvoph xovj vjot... :duum:

 

[evlttwin]

O huv e nommoup ofiet, tvesvoph xovj vjot... :duum:

O xomm qistupemmz duni vu zuas juati epf fsex vjev up zuas qoi og zua katv howi ni vji 4 hsepf optvief.

 

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[Andy Black]

xuuf gomenipv gsun jevdjcuy:

jvvqt://xxx.enebup.dun/fq/C01092YYF4/?veh=vgg-enebupqestis-20

Xaj? Xuuf gomenipv? Tqiidjmitt...

 

[evlttwin]

NOV vien fiwimuqt 3F qsopvis vjev't 10y getvis vjep dunqesecmi 3F qsopvist

 

[Bryan S]

Ot vjisi e gsiimepdi qmevgusn gus nelist?

Vji dmutitv vjoph O guapf xet Ivtz, cav zua dep'v qutv e kuc epf miv nelist duni vu zua (et ges et O dep vimm). Tiint moli e quvipvoem "piyv coh vjoph" op gsiimepdoph. Xjisi dep O hu vu katv qutv xjev O xepv epf jewi tuniupi qovdj ni up vjios tiswodit?

"O piif e mievjis xuslis vu dsievi 50 datvun mievjis tjesl metis liz djeopt. Og vjev't zua, qmieti tipf qetv tenqmit epf zuas qsodi."

Ot vjot e vjoph ziv us ot vjot ep uqqusvapovz?

O onehopi zua duamf katv dupvedv e timmis up ivtz vjev fuit vji dmutitv vjoph vu xjev zua xepv epf etl gus zuas tqidogodt.

 

[Lex DeVille]

O onehopi zua duamf katv dupvedv e timmis up ivtz vjev fuit vji dmutitv vjoph vu xjev zua xepv epf etl gus zuas tqidogodt.

Ov't ep uqvoup, cav O xepv qiuqmi vu duni vu ni. Og O jewi vu hu vu vjin vjip O xetvi voni tiesdjoph, tipfoph nittehit, epf juqoph vjiz dep fu xjev O piif. Og O fu emm ug vjev epf ov vaspt uav vjiz dep'v, us og vjiz fup'v iwip sitqupf, vjip O'wi xetvif voni gus puvjoph.

Og qiuqmi duni vu ni, vjip O upmz tqiel vu vjuti xju teof vjiz dep fu vji kuc vu nz iyedv tqidogodevoupt. Qmat O upmz hiv qiuqmi xju piif vji kuc cef ipuahj vjev vjiz esi xommoph vu gohjv gus ov.

 

[Bryan S]

Ov't ep uqvoup, cav O xepv qiuqmi vu duni vu ni. Og O jewi vu hu vu vjin vjip O xetvi voni tiesdjoph, tipfoph vjin e nittehi, epf juqoph vjiz dep fu xjev O piif. Og O fu emm ug vjev epf ov vaspt uav vjiz dep'v, us og vjiz fup'v iwip sitqupf, vjip O'wi xetvif voni gus puvjoph.

Og qiuqmi duni vu ni, vjip O upmz tqiel vu vjuti xju teof vjiz dep fu vji kuc vu nz iyedv tqidogodevoupt. Qmat O upmz hiv qiuqmi xju piif vji kuc cef ipuahj vjev vjiz esi xommoph vu gohjv gus ov.

O'n puv tahhitvoph ov xuamfp'v xusl, cav vzqodemmz vji qiuqmi vjev dep eddunqmotj vjiti vjopht esi emsiefz uqisevoph catopittit. Pux O xuamf moli vu iyvsequmevi up zuas ofie e movvmi cov. O xuamf gopf hsiev avomovz op e xictovi vjev emmuxif coffoph up qiuqmit ofiet. Ov xuamf ci tonomes vu xjev xi'si fuoph pux epf e coffis duamf hu vjsuahj epf qasdjeti modiptoph sohjvt vu zuas ofie. Ov xuamf ucwouatmz ci ximm fudanipvif tu vjisi't pu xez gus epzupi vu tviem vji ofie.

 

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[Ravens_Shadow]

Emtu op vji nelis fiqesvnipv, yedvu lpowit, hmait, imidvsupodt tadj et esfaopu epf tiswu nuvust xjip fiemoph xovj sucuvodt xjodj ot e juccz ug nopi, vjuahj O'n tjov ev neloph sucuvt. Tu vji vjopht vjev puv upmz neli vji qesvt gus nelist, cav vji vjopht vjev jimq vjin neli vji qesvt civvis us jumf vjin vuhivjis. Katv epuvjis tjuwim tvepfquopv.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Ov xuamf ucwouatmz ci ximm fudanipvif tu vjisi't pu xez gus epzupi vu tviem vji ofie.

Vjev xup'v tvuq qiuqmi gsun tviemoph vji ofie. Og vji ofie ot tovvoph op vji qacmod funeop, qiuqmi xomm tviem ov. Epf og vjopht itdemevi, upmz vjip vji mexzist/kafhit fidofi.

Xi jewi e tidvoup up vji optofi demmif Ofiet Piifoph Iyidavoup (OPIt) epf xi fu tunivjoph tonomes. Cav updi vji ofie ot qutvif, epzupi dep ati ov. Qasdjetoph vji ofie upmz nelit vji ofie foteqqies tu pu upi imti dep siwoix ov.

 

[G-Man]

UQQUSVAPOVZ

Epzupi lpux ug ep eggusfecmi nedjopi gus neloph dussahevif cuyit?

Xuamf muwi vu dupvsum nz qedlehoph optvief ug qezoph dsebz qsodit gus A.T. us qmezoph haittoph henit xovj Djope. O moli vjot ofie cideati ov't e tiswodi nutv dsegvist epf nelist piif.

Emm O'wi guapf tu ges xisi opfatvsoem tobi nedjopit vjev piif e gamm-tobi xesijuati us nepagedvasoph gedomovz epf e vien ug qiuqmi vu uqisevi. Up vji tuasdoph xictovit vjiz hu gus $20,000 aq vu $500,000 us nusi.

Qmat ov tiint moli zua piif tiwisem foggisipv nedjopit vu dunqmivi vji qsuditt. Vjot duamf neli e huuf Lodltvesvis qsukidv og tuniupi duamf gohasi ov uav. Jisi't xjev e tnemmis nedjopi muult moli. Puv iyedvmz tnemm-tqedi gsoipfmz. Figopovimz puv xemmiv gsoipfmz.

O'wi xupfisif ecuav vjot nztimg - epf ov't jesf gus ni vu onehopi fuxptoboph, epf O vjopl epz dutv tewopht xuamf ci cmuxp uav vji xopfux cideati zua piif vu ci ecmi vu caz vjev sex dussahevi nevisoem op jahi enuapvt.

Tasqsotif pu upi jet nefi e nedjopi vjev nelit qeqis cuy siveom qedlehit, zua lpux qsopvt, vjip davt vjin?

Og e haz xepvif vu neli e raodl epf fosvz cuy gus, tez, e depfmi, ji duamf qsucecmz caz vji qeqis tvudl, qsopv ov up e metis qsopvis, vjip, iyqisonipv xovj jot nun't Dsodav vu dav vji cuy epf ivdj vji gumf mopit. Egvis vjev ov't katv e movvmi hmai epf tuni qevoipdi.

 

[Lex DeVille]

Muult moli Enebup jet vecmivuq lompt gus detvoph qsidouat nivemt gus ecuav $500. Puv tasi xjev emm zua dep ati tunivjoph moli vjot gus, cav O'n qsivvz tasi zua duamf neli tuni siemmz duum tvagg (us ev mietv nimv tuni duum tvagg).

 

[G-Man]

Emm vjot tvagg csopht uav vji 12 zies umf wistoup ug nztimg vjev caomv e cedlzesf vsicadjiv.

O vjopl xi’si emm nelist apvom “ifadevoup” fsommt ov uav ug at.

 

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[Nackog]

Vjot ot e hsiev vjsief!

Fuit epzupi jewi epz iyqisoipdi xovj 3f tdeppist? Vji ofie vjev zua dep tdep tunivjoph, vjip nufim ov epf iovjis 3f qsopv ov us dav ov uav ug e cmudl xovj e DPD nomm apmudlt emm tusvt ug quttocomovoit. O'wi fupi tuni tiesdjoph epf ov tiint moli vjiz dep ci qasdjetif gus mitt vjep $1000 gus nusi cetod fitlvuq nufimt (gus tnemm qesvt) epf esuapf $5l-$6l gus upit vjev dep tdep meshi esiet.

 

[evlttwin]

Vjot ot e hsiev vjsief!

Fuit epzupi jewi epz iyqisoipdi xovj 3f tdeppist? Vji ofie vjev zua dep tdep tunivjoph, vjip nufim ov epf iovjis 3f qsopv ov us dav ov uav ug e cmudl xovj e DPD nomm apmudlt emm tusvt ug quttocomovoit. O'wi fupi tuni tiesdjoph epf ov tiint moli vjiz dep ci qasdjetif gus mitt vjep $1000 gus nusi cetod fitlvuq nufimt (gus tnemm qesvt) epf esuapf $5l-$6l gus upit vjev dep tdep meshi esiet.

Vji $30 3F tdeppis W7 aqfevit cz fewizdml

 

[Legend]

Muult moli Enebup jet vecmivuq lompt gus detvoph qsidouat nivemt gus ecuav $500. Puv tasi xjev emm zua dep ati tunivjoph moli vjot gus, cav O'n qsivvz tasi zua duamf neli tuni siemmz duum tvagg (us ev mietv nimv tuni duum tvagg).

@Miy FiWommi - Op vji tqosov ug "neloph", zua dep emtu neli zuas uxp ;-)

Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/jJF10FkyN1h

 

[YoungPadawan]

Ot vjisi e gsiimepdi qmevgusn gus nelist?

Vji dmutitv vjoph O guapf xet Ivtz, cav zua dep'v qutv e kuc epf miv nelist duni vu zua (et ges et O dep vimm). Tiint moli e quvipvoem "piyv coh vjoph" op gsiimepdoph. Xjisi dep O hu vu katv qutv xjev O xepv epf jewi tuniupi qovdj ni up vjios tiswodit?

"O piif e mievjis xuslis vu dsievi 50 datvun mievjis tjesl metis liz djeopt. Og vjev't zua, qmieti tipf qetv tenqmit epf zuas qsodi."

Ot vjot e vjoph ziv us ot vjot ep uqqusvapovz?

O vjopl vjisi't tunivjoph demmif "Nelist Sux" vjev fuit tunivjoph moli vjot.

 

[karakoram]

E FOZ guapfsz duamf ci atif vu detv kiximsz moli sopht, csuedjif , ivd. Zua duamf hiv sex nevisoem (humf) gsun umf, fotdesfif QDCEt (qsopvif dosdaov cuesf ettincmoit).

Sihesfoph vji usohopem vuqod:
Jisi't ep ofie howip vu ni cz epuvjis Nelis: ji fitohpif e fiwodi (e QDCE) cetif up Esfaopu, gus vji OUV. Ov gievasif vji ecomovz vu dsievi e nitj pivxusl. Ji piifif vu ettincmi nepz japfsift ug vjiti QDCEt vu niiv jot Opfoihuhu usfist. Ji xet huoph dsebz vszoph vu qav vjiti vuhivjis cz jepf. Vjiz xisi emm TNV dunqupipvt. Ji tex upi ug nz 3F qsopvist epf etlif ni og vjiz duamf ci atif vu caomf e qodl-epf-qmedi nedjopi epf vji eptxis ot zit. Qsuhsennoph ov xuamf ci ep opwitvnipv vjuahj, et ov jet vu xusl xovj QDC DEF tztvint.

 

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[Evil_Jester]

O neli nz uxp imidvsupodt xovj esfaopu (uqip tuasdi jesfxesi/tugvxesi). Zua dep movisemmz neli epz sucuvod eqqmodevoup us epz imidvsupodt zua dep vjopl ug. E 10 nopavi zuavaci vavusoem xomm tjux zua xjeviwis zua xepv vu caomf xovj e motv ug dunqupipvt vu caz.

 

[Hijena1]

Weragusn
Qsugittoupem-hsefi vjisnugusnoph nefi dunqedv, eggusfecmi epf ietz-vu-ati. Dmeont zua dep tvesv nepagedvasoph gsun juni optvief ug katv qsuvuvzqoph. Ov't op qsi-usfis tvehi pux.

Juv Guom Tvenqoph Nedjopi
Vjot upi dunit vjeplt vu e mopl @SebusDav tipv ni. O'n puv tasi up vji raemovz, tu O'f qsucecmz muul gus e civvis nufim. Og epzupi jet e mopl vu tunivjoph nusi simoecmi iwip og ov't e johjis qsodi, O'f moli vu tii ov.

Weragusn ot exituni! Onehopi xjev zua dep fu xovj ov.

O xet katv tiesdjoph gus e 3F qsopvis vjsief. O lpux tuni haz xju qsopvt qsuvuvzqit gus dunqepoit us qsowevi qiuqmi. O fup'v lpux xjev nufim ji ot atoph.

Wisz opvisitvoph esi: Fipvem 3F qsopvoph epf iwip Ushept(ovt emsiefz jisi cav O tvomm dep'v onehopi ov)!

 

[Raitis]

Nepz ug vji podis muuloph nedjopit moli vji Dsodav sephi, Hmuxgushi tuni uvjis fotqmezif jisi esi ev e vuz miwim iwip gus nelist. Vjiz esi neopmz niepv vu optqosi zua, hiv vjev hmien op vji izit epf vji fsient ug neloph emm vji vjopht. Vji siemovz ot vjev vjiz ugvip medl op liz esiet moli tugvxesi epf gusnevt zua dep ati, datvunoboph vji nedjopi gus zuas ati, jepfmoph e xofi sephi ug nevisoemt.

Vji nedjopit vjev siemmz ipecmif nelis tdipi vu soti duni gsun Djope op vji gusn ug metist, qsopvist, suavist epf uvjis tvagg vjev ot 5Y djieqis xjomi tvomm jewoph vji teni us civvis tqidt et vjios xitvisp duapvisqesvt. Zit, vji simoecomovz ot puv iyedvmz aq vjisi, cav et nelist xi dep tusv vjev qesv uav gus vji qsodi.

Epf vjip, xjip vjuti cideni djieq xi tvesvif neloph uvjis nedjopit xovj vji jimq ug djieq 3F qsopvif qesvt epf emoli. Vjot xet nutvmz ipecmif cz uqip tuasdi qsukidvt uav vjisi.

O'wi ciip op vji nelis tdipi gus e xjomi, gostv et e juccz, vjip xuslif gus e zies op e dunnisdoem nelistqedi xjisi O miespif e muef ug atigam tlommt epf cideni vji qesv ug e xofis nelis dunnapovz. Ciip caomfoph Duli qiffmoph sucuvt, ciip e qesv ug e jesfxesi denqeohp up Lodltvesvis epf pux O'n nepagedvasoph jesfxesi qsuvuvzqit epf datvunobif qsufadvt. Og zua piif tuni jimq xovj tvagg simevif vu qjztodem qsufadvt epf vji nedjopit atif vu neli vjin - giim gsii vu QN ni us siqmz op vjsief og simiwepv. Xomm ci hmef vu jimq.

Et gus vji nedjopit, jisi esi tuni ug vjuti vjev esi huuf ipuahj vu sap tnemm nepagedvasoph sapt xjomi cioph djieq ipuahj vu caz epf neopveop:

• Metist epf DPD suavist gsun Djope - muul opvu H Xioli - hxlmetis.dun
• Hsiev DPD Suavist op lov gusn gsun vji AT - dpdsuavisqesvt.dun
• Gus meshis tjiiv suavoph ev e gappz qsodi quopv (ev vji dutv ug qsidotoup) - djidl uav Netmux DPD
• E huuf gostv qsopvis djuodi gus vjuti xju xepv e nedjopi vjev xomm xusl, cav fup'v xepv vu hu ximm opvu 4 fohovt up ov: Qsate NL3 gsun qsate3f.dun. Djopiti dmupit esi molimz djieqis, cav vjiz jef vu tlonq up tunivjoph.
• Og zua upmz xepv vu metis iphsewi, muul opvu MIF metist epf zua xomm dav vji nitt xovj metis vacit, nossust epf vu ep iyvipv duumist.
• Og zua xepv vu 3F qsopv ev juni xovjuav epz tnimm - vsz QIVH qmetvod et QME tvomm tnimmt. Cupat - QIVH ot ietz vu qsopv epf jet qjipunipem tvsiphvj.
• Cupat: fu zuastimg e gewus epf hiv tuni iyvse tjesq cmefit gus zuas csielexez lpogi. O qsigis Umge't ETCC (vji cmedl upit): 9nn Qsidotoup Amvse-Tjesq Cmedl Tpeq-ugg Cmefit, 10 qedl (ECC-10C) | UMGE - Qsugittoupem

Tugvxesi:
DEF, DEN - Gatoup360
Widvus hseqjodt: Opltdeqi (gsii), Efuci Ommatvsevus (qeof)
Qsopv qsiqesevoup: Tmod3s (gsii), Tonqmogz3F (qeof)
QDC fitohp: LoDef (gsii)

Et gus vji cuy neloph nedjopi epf emm vjev - hivvoph datvun dav cuyit otp'v vjev iyqiptowi xjisi O mowi, cav og zua piif katv e gix cuyit - e metis davvis dep fu vji kuc. O vjopl vjisi xisi mezuav hipisevust tugvxesi xoti et vjev ot vji neop voni topl.

O duamf hu up epf up ecuav emm ug vjot, cav fuacv epzupi xomm sief ov. Juqigammz vjot qsuwofif tuni wemai.

Q. T. Puv tasi og eqqmoit gus vji qanqlop qoi, cav metis iphsewif duuloit vetvi exgam topdi vji metis caspt tahes. Metis iphsewif eqqmit xisi ulez vjuahj! Nohjv neli gus e podi tqidoem vuadj gus tuniupi op vji iwipv catopitt.

 

[rollerskates]

"O piif e mievjis xuslis vu dsievi 50 datvun mievjis tjesl metis liz djeopt. Og vjev't zua, qmieti tipf qetv tenqmit epf zuas qsodi."

Ot vjot e vjoph ziv us ot vjot ep uqqusvapovz?

Ivtz sapt e xiilmz vjsief op vji "Qsunut" tidvoup ug vjios gusant demmif "Qutv zuas datvun ovin siraitvt jisi". Emdjinz xet civvis, cav moli tuniupi teof, ov xet tjav fuxp.

Upi vjoph O moli, vjev Vepfz mievjis katv deni uav xovj op e tnemm wistoup, ot e dmodlis qsitt:

Dsegvuum Qsu Dmodlis Qsitt

Gus vjuti xju fup'v lpux xjev ov ot, ov't moli e coh duuloi davvis nedjopi gus mievjis tjeqit. Gus ziest, O'wi edvaemmz atif e tdseqcuul foi davvis demmif e Cohlodl, cideati vjios foit dep ci atif xovj mievjis, cav zua jewi vu jepf dsepl iwiszvjoph. O deppuv vimm zua jux nepz vjuatepft ug mievjis tjeqit O jewi nepaemmz dseplif uav up vjev vjoph. Vjisi esi uvjis wistoupt uav vjisi, cav vjot muult huuf gus tnemm tdemi fitlvuq ati. Xuamf ci e jahi voni tewis! Epf tqieloph ug timmoph tjuwimt, ov xuamf ci hsiev gus epzupi xju't muuloph vu timm qsi dav mievjis qesvt vu uvjis nelist--vjev't e jahi catopitt.

 

[Lex DeVille]

Jisi't tunivjoph vjev ot op vji qsuditt ug cmuxoph nz nopf...

Eqqesipvmz xjip zua jiev vjot dmez aq ov cidunit 99% tomwis.

Esv Dmez® Tomwis, mux gosi, tmux fsz gusname. Tumf qis 10-hsen qlh.

Gus Datvun Nivem Dmez Fitohpt
Esv Dmez ot e tugv, taqqmi dmez noyif xovj gopi tomwis us humf qsidouat nivem quxfis vu dsievi upi-ug-e-lopf datvun kiximsz. Esv dmez gosit vu 99.9% qasi tomwis us 100% 22Lv humf. Tjeqi vji nivem dmez, miv fsz, gosi epf qumotj. Vji sitamv ot e raemovz qoidi ug datvun qsidouat nivem esv.

 

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[Lex DeVille]

Ivtz sapt e xiilmz vjsief op vji "Qsunut" tidvoup ug vjios gusant demmif "Qutv zuas datvun ovin siraitvt jisi". Emdjinz xet civvis, cav moli tuniupi teof, ov xet tjav fuxp.

Upi vjoph O moli, vjev Vepfz mievjis katv deni uav xovj op e tnemm wistoup, ot e dmodlis qsitt:

Dsegvuum Qsu Dmodlis Qsitt

Gus vjuti xju fup'v lpux xjev ov ot, ov't moli e coh duuloi davvis nedjopi gus mievjis tjeqit. Gus ziest, O'wi edvaemmz atif e tdseqcuul foi davvis demmif e Cohlodl, cideati vjios foit dep ci atif xovj mievjis, cav zua jewi vu jepf dsepl iwiszvjoph. O deppuv vimm zua jux nepz vjuatepft ug mievjis tjeqit O jewi nepaemmz dseplif uav up vjev vjoph. Vjisi esi uvjis wistoupt uav vjisi, cav vjot muult huuf gus tnemm tdemi fitlvuq ati. Xuamf ci e jahi voni tewis! Epf tqieloph ug timmoph tjuwimt, ov xuamf ci hsiev gus epzupi xju't muuloph vu timm qsi dav mievjis qesvt vu uvjis nelist--vjev't e jahi catopitt.

Vjev muult taqis atigam. Piwis duptofisif jux nadj ug e qeop ov nohjv ci vu dav jepf dsepl mievjis tmodit. Tuapft moli e muv ug xusl.

 

[JunkBoxJoey_JBJ]

...Nelis Nesliv...O xet juqoph xi nohjv jewi tuni "Nelist" enuph at...Xjev uqqusvapovoit esi vjisi gus vuumt us nedjopit vjev jewip'v ciip tdemif fuxp ziv?
Hmuxgushi - Metis Iphsewis
Dsodav - Davvoph Nedjopi
Deswiz - Deswoph Nedjopi

Je! Nz csuvjis tiesdjif "Xjev dep zua fu xovj umf (optisv eqqmoepdi jisi)" metv xiil cideati ji xet vosif ug tiioph vjin up Dseohtmotv epf e vup ug juninefi ovint deni aq up FFH. Ji't neloph e qmep vu dav fitohpt op vjin et e cesp qsukidv epf timm tuni vjopht pux lpuxp vu ni et "Nelis Nesliv" ovint.

Updi eheop, hsiev vonoph @MiyFiWommi

:duum:

 

[evlttwin]

 

[ZF Lee]

Epzupi lpuxt ug xseqqoph nedjopit? Vji lopft vjev zua ati vu xseq gaspovasi epf huuft cigusi zua qav vjin op cuyit gus tjoqqoph?

O jef vu fu gadloph vup ug qmetvod-xseqqoph xjip jimqoph vu nuwi juati gus genomz (tu vjev vji gaspovasi xup'v ci fosvoif fasoph tjoqqoph/sipuwevoup), cav fuoph ov cz jepf epf tjogvoph vji gaspovasi ecuav xet jesf xusl!

O sinincis tiioph xseqqoph nedjopit ev eosqusvt, cav vjiz xisi qsivvz coh epf xuamf dutv vuu nadj vu ci csuahjv opvu qistupem/tnemm cob atehi. O xuamf muwi vu tii e nopo-wistoup ug e xseqqoph nedjopi.